Here's a political thought experiment - forget Dems and Repubs for a second and ask yourself this: If two candidates were EXACTLY THE SAME in every respect politically, their only difference being race or gender - would you flip a coin, or would you choose one over the other based on racial or gender difference?
The answer to this question should let you know what you are.
Here's a political thought experiment - forget Dems and Repubs for a second and ask yourself this: If two candidates were EXACTLY THE SAME in every respect politically, their only difference being race or gender - would you flip a coin, or would you choose one over the other based on racial or gender difference?
I give up. What's the right answer? What would you do? Is this a trick question?
The correct and fair answer would seem to be flip a coin. That said, all equal,I would probably vote black or female, because they have not been represented well enough in American history. I wouldn't vote for them if they were pigs like Trump or Palin though. Guess that makes me a racist and reverse sexist. Question worked for me, let me know what I am.
Dems hate jews so much they let Bloomberg speak at their convention.....WTF
"Wtf"?....It's not like the Democrats have a history of hate or anything....lol
In the history of our country we owned the dixiecrats but we purged them from our party now they have a firm grasp on the very far right of your party. So yes at one time the democrats were the racist party and the origins of the Republican party are that of a liberal progressive mindset....What happened???? its not that way anymore and no matter what the roots are the parties have changed positions, platforms and directions
Trump is still a pimp, liar and a chump not to mention the reincarnation of Archie Bunker
He's in it for himself and no one else....its a game for him
Refresh my memory. Which candidate did David Duke endorse?
Trump?......would be my guess, And this proves what?
Refresh my memory. Which candidate did David Duke endorse?
Trump?......would be my guess, And this proves what?
Dukes feels his views are reflective in what Trump says. He identifies with Trump. Makes perfectly good sense if one compares those two Republicans.
They are brothers of bigotry.
Birds of a feather flock together.
If you think Trump would make any kind of good president, you are an absolute idiot head to toe.
Refresh my memory. Which candidate did David Duke endorse?
Trump?......would be my guess, And this proves what?
You pointed out how 150 years ago Democrats were bigoted and hateful. You had nothing contemporary that showed the Democrats were like that today. Duke is a white suprematist who is also an anti-semite. Do I have to explain this any further?
What's worse? Having the KKK in your party decades ago or having the KKK in your party in 2016?
What's worse? Having the KKK in your party decades ago or having the KKK in your party in 2016?
How so? Please provide a list of the current Republicans that are KKK members. I'd like to take a
look at that.
So yes at one time the democrats were the racist party and the origins of the Republican party are that of a liberal progressive mindset....What happened????
Really interesting question! Probably college level Political Science, a subject I never went near. Thinking about it with my limited educational background, it occurred to me that it may somehow shift back and forth, as opposing political forces keep pushing and falling towards the other side. And maybe right now we are in the middle of a shifting point, which could explain why this election is so damn strange.
If so, then this has happened before, in some post-Lincoln election cycle, where the parties got kind of confused and overlapped.
So yes at one time the democrats were the racist party and the origins of the Republican party are that of a liberal progressive mindset....What happened????
Really interesting question! Probably college level Political Science, a subject I never went near. Thinking about it with my limited educational background, it occurred to me that it may somehow shift back and forth, as opposing political forces keep pushing and falling towards the other side. And maybe right now we are in the middle of a shifting point, which could explain why this election is so damn strange.
If so, then this has happened before, in some post-Lincoln election cycle, where the parties got kind of confused and overlapped.
The turn happened when we repudiated George McGovern and lead the civil right movement. But the origins are with Roosevelt and the new deal. We became more of a social party and the purge of the bigots began...they had to go somewhere so they grabbed on to the far right conservative movement...it took a few decades....The Archie Bunkers were exposed in the early 70's in All in the family as it pointed out how stupid we sound we when talk like Donald Trump....but those "blue collar" workers who held on to that way of life had to have somewhere to go...and the Republicans welcomed them with open arms and they eventually became party leaders....Just as George McGovern had in the Dem party
Refresh my memory. Which candidate did David Duke endorse?
Trump?......would be my guess, And this proves what?
You pointed out how 150 years ago Democrats were bigoted and hateful. You had nothing contemporary that showed the Democrats were like that today. Duke is a white suprematist who is also an anti-semite. Do I have to explain this any further?
150 years ago, kind of. All the way back to the democratic platform of 1840, through the Democrats of the 1960s. The facts are, that in 1924, KKK involvement was more than just an 'endorsement" from one idiot. It was a convention full of delegates who were members of the KKK who almost controlled it.
That is over 120 years of bigotry and hatred being spewed from this group. Change?... You betcha!.....Now you have the likes of Al Sharpton!....Lucky you.
So yes at one time the democrats were the racist party and the origins of the Republican party are that of a liberal progressive mindset....What happened????
Really interesting question! Probably college level Political Science, a subject I never went near. Thinking about it with my limited educational background, it occurred to me that it may somehow shift back and forth, as opposing political forces keep pushing and falling towards the other side. And maybe right now we are in the middle of a shifting point, which could explain why this election is so damn strange.
If so, then this has happened before, in some post-Lincoln election cycle, where the parties got kind of confused and overlapped.
The turn happened when we repudiated George McGovern and lead the civil right movement. But the origins are with Roosevelt and the new deal. We became more of a social party and the purge of the bigots began...they had to go somewhere so they grabbed on to the far right conservative movement...it took a few decades....The Archie Bunkers were exposed in the early 70's in All in the family as it pointed out how stupid we sound we when talk like Donald Trump....but those "blue collar" workers who held on to that way of life had to have somewhere to go...and the Republicans welcomed them with open arms and they eventually became party leaders....Just as George McGovern had in the Dem party
We became more of a social party and the purge of the bigots began...
After only 120 years of bigotry, hatred and racism, you must be so proud!
Refresh my memory. Which candidate did David Duke endorse?
Trump?......would be my guess, And this proves what?
You pointed out how 150 years ago Democrats were bigoted and hateful. You had nothing contemporary that showed the Democrats were like that today. Duke is a white suprematist who is also an anti-semite. Do I have to explain this any further?
150 years ago, kind of. All the way back to the democratic platform of 1840, through the Democrats of the 1960s. The facts are, that in 1924, KKK involvement was more than just an 'endorsement" from one idiot. It was a convention full of delegates who were members of the KKK who almost controlled it.
That is over 120 years of bigotry and hatred being spewed from this group. Change?... You betcha!.....Now you have the likes of Al Sharpton!....Lucky you.
Since we were talking about 2016, none of that stuff from the past is relevant. It would be like me bringing up Nixon/Agnew to say that the GOP was corrupt today. It is irrelevant.
As for Sharpton, the last time I checked, he held no elected position. Now Duke is running for Senator. So you have that going for you. 😛
Refresh my memory. Which candidate did David Duke endorse?
Trump?......would be my guess, And this proves what?
You pointed out how 150 years ago Democrats were bigoted and hateful. You had nothing contemporary that showed the Democrats were like that today. Duke is a white suprematist who is also an anti-semite. Do I have to explain this any further?
150 years ago, kind of. All the way back to the democratic platform of 1840, through the Democrats of the 1960s. The facts are, that in 1924, KKK involvement was more than just an 'endorsement" from one idiot. It was a convention full of delegates who were members of the KKK who almost controlled it.
That is over 120 years of bigotry and hatred being spewed from this group. Change?... You betcha!.....Now you have the likes of Al Sharpton!....Lucky you.
Since we were talking about 2016, none of that stuff from the past is relevant. It would be like me bringing up Nixon/Agnew to say that the GOP was corrupt today. It is irrelevant.
As for Sharpton, the last time I checked, he held no elected position. Now Duke is running for Senator. So you have that going for you. 😛
Since we were talking about 2016, none of that stuff from the past is relevant
Curious as to why I have "That going for me"..lol. I'm not a Trump guy. But Duke's KKK background ties in quite nicely with the History of the Democrats.
"Not relevant" Maybe not to you. But they are facts and it is the History of Hillary's party. I'll also wager that most have no F'n idea......
Is not History fascinating?
Refresh my memory. Which candidate did David Duke endorse?
Trump?......would be my guess, And this proves what?
You pointed out how 150 years ago Democrats were bigoted and hateful. You had nothing contemporary that showed the Democrats were like that today. Duke is a white suprematist who is also an anti-semite. Do I have to explain this any further?
150 years ago, kind of. All the way back to the democratic platform of 1840, through the Democrats of the 1960s. The facts are, that in 1924, KKK involvement was more than just an 'endorsement" from one idiot. It was a convention full of delegates who were members of the KKK who almost controlled it.
That is over 120 years of bigotry and hatred being spewed from this group. Change?... You betcha!.....Now you have the likes of Al Sharpton!....Lucky you.
Since we were talking about 2016, none of that stuff from the past is relevant. It would be like me bringing up Nixon/Agnew to say that the GOP was corrupt today. It is irrelevant.
As for Sharpton, the last time I checked, he held no elected position. Now Duke is running for Senator. So you have that going for you. 😛
Since we were talking about 2016, none of that stuff from the past is relevant
Curious as to why I have "That going for me"..lol. I'm not a Trump guy. But Duke's KKK background ties in quite nicely with the History of the Democrats.
"Not relevant" Maybe not to you. But they are facts and it is the History of Hillary's party. I'll also wager that most have no F'n idea......
Is not History fascinating?
You are not a Trump guy? Thanks for the laugh. 😛
You are not a Trump guy? Thanks for the laugh. 😛
You, are not a troll? lol
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/04/why_republicans_blaming_democrats_for_the_kkk_are_profoundly_wrong/
Interesting read, thanks. But an opinion piece from one Mr. Daniel Denvir, does not change historical fact.
Not sure what this blaming the past achieves in the present. The history is interesting for sure. The fact is that whatever political stripe has been running the country at any time in the past, things have been pretty much the same. I have no great love of either party. The two party system has led to a lot of skullduggery as they vie for power.
One thing I learned recently was that Martin Luther King was planning on running for president in 1968, with Dr. Benjamin Spock as VP. Why isn't this in the history books? How convenient that he was shot! And who would he have been a direct threat to? The Democrats. Can't even get started on LBJ. So, this thing cuts two ways. They are all sc*mbags.
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Not sure what this blaming the past achieves in the present. The history is interesting for sure. The fact is that whatever political stripe has been running the country at any time in the past, things have been pretty much the same. I have no great love of either party. The two party system has led to a lot of skullduggery as they vie for power.
One thing I learned recently was that Martin Luther King was planning on running for president in 1968, with Dr. Benjamin Spock as VP. Why isn't this in the history books? How convenient that he was shot! And who would he have been a direct threat to? The Democrats. Can't even get started on LBJ. So, this thing cuts two ways. They are all sc*mbags.
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I guess I should not be a Democrat because of what the believed long before I was born. I had nothing to do with that and I bear no responsibility for it, What is amazing is that BigV says I should feel guilty for the Dema past sins while he supports the Republicans who are guilty of those sins today. You can't make this stuff up.
Now we wait for the inevitable BigV troll post saying he is not a Republican. 😛
I am bewildered. Why are you folks arguing over who was racist 50 years ago versus who is racist today. Why can't you all agree that racism is bad regardless of who is practicing it, and it is certainly not an acceptable trait in any politician, now or ever. Can we all agree on that? Or is that a controversial position?
Hillary Clinton granted an exclusive interview to CBS’s 60 Minutes over the weekend.
When asked about The DNC CFO’s effort to use Bernie Sanders Jewish faith against him Hillary Clinton denied any knowledge of it much in the same manner she used when lying to everyone about her private eMail use.
CBS’s 60 Minutes in their allegiance to the Democrat Party and not wanting to broadcast the Democrats Anti-Semitism edited that part out of the on-air broadcast.
'60 Minutes' Doesn't Air Hillary Dodge About DNC Interference (Updated)
Clinton's problematic answers and CBS's odd editing decision.12:51 AM, Jul 25, 2016 | By Michael Warren
The corruption by CBS News is nothing new. When their correspondent Sharyl Attkisson reported on air the Benghazi cover-up and lies by the Obama/Clinton regime she was taken off the air on Ben Rhoads, brother of CBS News President.
CBS News also has a reputation for anti-Semitism based on their stance against Israel defending themselves against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Ya gotta love it.
The Democrats has yet again been exposed as anti-Semites and their followers are fine with that.
The Democrats wanted to use Bernie Sander’s Jewish faith against him and their followers are fine with that.
Time and time again Comrade Muleman you have revealed your self to be an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi. You are aware that on average 80% of Jews vote Democrat. My family is Jewish, my mother-in-law is in a Jewish retirement home and many of my friends are Jews. 100% of them are Democrat and now you are saying that they are anti-Semitic. WTF!!
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Liar.
I have never said anything anti-Semitic neo-Nazi.
The documents and words of the Democrats prove they are anti-Semitic. The fact that almost 80% of Jews are registers Democrats is much due to corrupt liberal media filtering.
BTW - Obama got less than 60% of the Jewish vote.
So are you saying the Jews are racist?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
Hysterical.
Wott a f#cking moron.
I am bewildered. Why are you folks arguing over who was racist 50 years ago versus who is racist today. Why can't you all agree that racism is bad regardless of who is practicing it, and it is certainly not an acceptable trait in any politician, now or ever. Can we all agree on that? Or is that a controversial position?
The point I was trying to make is that the things done by any party or person 50-150 years ago has little to no relevance today. Today's candidates and parties are where the focus should be. Today, you are more likely to see racism and prejudice in the GOP. But I fully understand that there are some Democrats who might be guilty of it as well. There is no broad brush to paint either party with.
I could go on, how about Democratic Senator from NY, Fernando Wood?
He actually served in the House, three terms, 1841–1843, 1863–1865, and 1867–1881.
Are you seriously saying that any current member of either political party carries the weight and responsibility of any other member of that party throughout all of history?
Man, that's pretty heavy.
louie gohmert will be quite the burden on the gop for years to come.
I am bewildered. Why are you folks arguing over who was racist 50 years ago versus who is racist today. Why can't you all agree that racism is bad regardless of who is practicing it, and it is certainly not an acceptable trait in any politician, now or ever. Can we all agree on that? Or is that a controversial position?
The point I was trying to make is that the things done by any party or person 50-150 years ago has little to no relevance today. Today's candidates and parties are where the focus should be. Today, you are more likely to see racism and prejudice in the GOP. But I fully understand that there are some Democrats who might be guilty of it as well. There is no broad brush to paint either party with.
I agree with you completely. My comments were not directed at you. We are actually saying the same thing but in different ways.
I am bewildered. Why are you folks arguing over who was racist 50 years ago versus who is racist today. Why can't you all agree that racism is bad regardless of who is practicing it, and it is certainly not an acceptable trait in any politician, now or ever. Can we all agree on that? Or is that a controversial position?
I find it amazing how the whole KKK is a Democratic thing is all of a sudden some kind of way to make Democrats as racists. Did you not look at the diverse crowd at the convention? All those races in one place and I didn't hear about a single lynching or even one hint of racism.
Should we still consider all Germans to be Nazis? The same people bringing up the KKK association with the Democrats are the same ones who jump at anyone who mentions that Christians hands aren't free of blood based on the crusades.
BIGV says history is interesting, but if you are learning history you don't bring up something from 150 years ago and try to imply that nothing has changed. We don't see Nazis in charge of Germany, the US no longer is locking up Japanese Americans, and the US is now allies with England dispite the Revolutionary War. Lots of things changed in the 60s and if you really think history is interesting then learn about the Southern Strategy.
BIGV says history is interesting, but if you are learning history you don't bring up something from 150 years ago and try to imply that nothing has changed. We don't see Nazis in charge of Germany, the US no longer is locking up Japanese Americans, and the US is now allies with England dispite the Revolutionary War. Lots of things changed in the 60s and if you really think history is interesting then learn about the Southern Strategy.
It was the quote below by a fellow poster who referenced the KKK in this thread that accounted for my opinion on history....
"Maybe if you took your white hood off we could hear you better"
Want to know what racism look like? Just ask the GOP legislators in North Carolina. Read the first paragraph of this article from yesterday, as courts struck down voting suppression efforts by the GOP in North Carolina. The wording is crystal clear.
The scurrilous attempt by North Carolina Republicans to suppress the rising power of black voters was struck down on Friday by a federal appeals court that concluded that the state’s voting strictures “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision.”
"Maybe if you took your white hood off we could hear you better"
That had zero to do with politics, it was directed at Muleklan, who from reply one has dodged out of explaining why he had to bring up Bernie Sanders's religion in a derogatory post. He just strikes me as the KKK type.
