The Romans tried to own the world once....

it didn't work out so well for them....

Have I mentioned Jebidiah will be our next "leader"? 😉

I came across this Guardian article from 2003.The article examines a paper from the now famous (infamous) Project For A New American Century think tank (say Hi Jeb!) A lot of the strategies outlined in the policy paper examined should look awfully familiar at this point. The paragraph that really caught my eye was this one:

"It also hints that the US may consider developing biological weapons "that can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"."

Understatement - that is pretty f*$#ing disturbing.

It is hard for me to understand how thees people in power, who are very smart and capable people, are so utterly depraved.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/sep/06/september11.iraq

This should really scare the sh*t out of any sane person. Happy Halloween.

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There is nothing in the opinion piece that states: “US developing bio-weapons to target specific "genotypes".

It speculates: "It also hints that the US may consider developing biological weapons”.

Hints?

May?

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This is the direct language of the paper in question:

"that can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

When the author says "hints," I'd say that is being kind.

Here is a PNAC paper talking about SOMETHING that "can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

"from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool" is a pretty f&*ed up sentence wouldn't you say? These people are clearly depraved lunatics. How wonderful for humanity that they are in positions of power.

This is the direct language of the paper in question:

"that can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

When the author says "hints," I'd say that is being kind.

Here is a PNAC paper talking about SOMETHING that "can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

"from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool" is a pretty f&*ed up sentence wouldn't you say? These people are clearly depraved lunatics. How wonderful for humanity that they are in positions of power.

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The opinion piece has no facts of an actual program or research. It is nothing more than
supposition and some writer's "maybe they are coming for me" crap.

I'm sure you thoroughly considered and researched your conclusion right Mule?

I'm sure you thoroughly considered and researched your conclusion right Mule?

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I read the source information you provided.
Like I said, nothing real there.

Are sound a little too paranoid.

"It sounds paranoid to me" is your bar for what is possible and determinant for how the world works? I recommend researching issues and instead of making assumptions.

For example a 5 second Google search reveals the U.S. Government's long, sordid and documented history of conducting illegal and immoral human experiments:

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Presidential-Apology-for-the-Study-at-Tuskegee-1369625

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

And as you know, the U.S. Military used agent orange in Vietnam and continues to use depleted uranium in conflicts today. I am sure you know the U.S. Government has their own supplies of bio weapons like anthrax. Why do you find it "paranoid" that they would be researching new bio weapons and applications?

I also recommend you consider the fact that The Guardian is a major international publication and were it to publish a piece falsely attributing the above language to a PNAC paper, PNAC would come after them particularly since the Guardian is based in England where defamation laws would require the guardian to prove their claims are true or pay up. Not to mention the editorial process.

Also, how can it be "paranoid" if this is language straight out of PNAC's own paper?

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And why do you think the government has anthrax and other highly toxic bacteria?

I don’t need to do research into issues I am already quite knowledgeable about. You don’t need to go back to 1932 for an example to try and push your paranoia. If you want unethical human experimentation you need look no further than Planned Mass Murder to find the harvesting of dead baby organs and tissue or illegally altering abortion procedure to live birth a baby in order to reap a more profitable yield.

So... to summarize:

I am paranoid for thinking that PNAC is contemplating biological weapons "that can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool" because I posted that quote from a PNAC paper. And it would be paranoid to think our government would do such a thing because there are multiple examples of the US government performing similar illegal biological experiments and sterilization programs going back to 1932 that everyone knows about. And because our government harvests aborted fetal matter for profit.

Respectfully, that makes no sense.

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You didn't answer the question:

And why do you think the government has anthrax and other highly toxic bacteria?

That's pretty far out there considering that we cant even target specific cancer tumor cells well enough to cure some of the most lethal cancers and we are not even talking about an entire genotype.

Of course if you believe that cancer cure is locked away in a pharmaceutical companies vault than I suppose this kind of hyperbole is believable.

That's pretty far out there considering that we cant even target specific cancer tumor cells well enough to cure some of the most lethal cancers and we are not even talking about an entire genotype.

Of course if you believe that cancer cure is locked away in a pharmaceutical companies vault than I suppose this kind of hyperbole is believable.

This is a direct quote from a PNAC policy paper. I never said it was feasible. Apparently though, PNAC likes the idea and is contemplating. it. The fact that it isn't possible only furthers the point: these people are completely detached from reality and totally depraved.

That's pretty far out there considering that we cant even target specific cancer tumor cells well enough to cure some of the most lethal cancers and we are not even talking about an entire genotype.

Of course if you believe that cancer cure is locked away in a pharmaceutical companies vault than I suppose this kind of hyperbole is believable.

This is a direct quote from a PNAC policy paper. I never said it was feasible. Apparently though, PNAC likes the idea and is contemplating. it. The fact that it isn't possible only furthers the point: these people are completely detached from reality and totally depraved.

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You stated: “U.S. Government has their own supplies of bio weapons like anthrax.”

I asked: “And why do you think the government has anthrax and other highly toxic bacteria?”

You have avoided answering the question either because you don’t know the answer or are unwilling to answer because it will destroy your paranoid assumptions.

BTW – the writer of the Guardian opinion piece, Michael Meacher, is a well known conspiracy nut and far-left politician.

But you are in luck! There is a new National Inquirer on sale at your local grocery store.

No, the document I quoted from was a PNAC paper written by Scooter Libby and Paul Wolfowitz.

I didn't answer your question because the post you included it in makes no sense to me. Sorry. But if it helps, they say they make it to study it. Sadly, as you can see from the text of PNAC's own paper, there are some very influential people who are considering using biological weapons as a "politically useful tool." Those are PNAC's words not mine, Meacher's or the Guardians'.

No, the document I quoted from was a PNAC paper written by Scooter Libby and Paul Wolfowitz.

I didn't answer your question because the post you included it in makes no sense to me. Sorry. But if it helps, they say they make it to study it. Sadly, as you can see from the text of PNAC's own paper, there are some very influential people who are considering using biological weapons as a "politically useful tool." Those are PNAC's words not mine, Meacher's or the Guardians'.

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An opinion piece from a known conspiracy left-wing nut who picked a few "hints and mays" from a document that was simply making suppositions.

Paranoia will destroy ya.

Again, direct quote from PNAc policy paper, "can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

Again, direct quote from PNAc policy paper, "can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

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You sound as if this type of thing has never happened before.
And BTW - it didn't happen.

Don't engage, axeman. all it wants is your thread.

Yep. It's called fast food.

Don't engage, axeman. all it wants is your thread.

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No, I’m not really into the paranoid conspiracy theories.
Special Agent Fox Mulder might though.