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DougMacKenzie
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I think he's a liberal operative planted to make conservatives look bad. Grin

Or just someone with time on his hands that likes to stir stuff up.


 
Posted : March 13, 2015 7:12 pm
jkeller
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Liberal operative. Can anyone pull off being that dumb? Dang, he is good. 😛


 
Posted : March 13, 2015 7:16 pm
Muleman1994
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The liberals here just proved my point.

1.) You won’t discuss the actual issue of the thread
2.) You twist my words around then pose a question based on a false assumption of what I said. I don’t answer such questions nor stupid questions that have nothing to do with the actual thread.
3.) You constantly ask me for “the link” for things you are too lazy or incompetent to look up for yourself.

These are the traits of people that are not willing to discuss matters but post constantly attacking people that disagree with but can’t themselves craft a counter argument; assuming they have one.

Keller attacks my data on the Ferguson report obviously because he is too scared to discuss the matter.
I ask if he has ever read the report and he does not answer but puts up another of his “where is the link”. He never answers the question. Not having read the actual report he still questions my data.
No creditability.

From the liberals unwillingness to discuss the issue one must assume that they are all good with the out of control black violence and that shooting police officers is okay with them.
When it is proven that “Hands up, Don’t Shoot” never happened, the liberals ignore the facts and yet again hide from discussing the serious matter.

Why are liberals scared to discuss any issue that involves race while they are quick to use race anytime they want to attack an opposing opinion?


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 6:34 am
DougMacKenzie
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He, so bent on prosecuting any white person his
Justice Dept. created a phony report on the Freguson Police Department.
They cherry-picked and screwed information to create the appearance of a racist police department.

For the record, the above quote, as stated, is opinion, not fact, not "data".

While pointing out that Ferguson is 66% black but over 80-some percent are charged with a crime.

This is data, although what it means is open to interpretation. Are 80 some percent of all blacks in Ferguson charged with crimes? That seems like a really high number. Could that be because of a racial bias by an mostly white PD?

No where did they admit that over 80-some percent commit the crimes.

Charged with a crime and proven guilty of committing a crime are two different things. This stat would be really suspect if 100% of blacks charged with a crime were also convicted.

The report laments the lack of black police officers in a majority black community. Conveniently they didn’t mention the most of the black applicants didn’t have the education nor could pass the background or drug test.
The Dept. of Justice's Ferguson report was written for Holder based on what he wanted the report to say.

If this is not cited in the report, how do you know it to be true from reading the report?


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 7:29 am
Muleman1994
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Where did everyone go? 🙁

I am still laughing at Mule claiming he read the DOJ report. People post links here all the time and he doesn't read them. You've already seen that he won't answer questions or take part in a debate. If I were a conservative, I would steer clear of this guy.

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Posting links to left-wing websites and blogs doesn’t garner my time.
I answer questions worthy of an answer but most questions posted by the liberals here are bogus or twists of my posts.

It is you that won’t engage in a debate. On this thread alone not one liberals has commented on the thread and only offer attacks on me. That alone says the liberals here are too scared to address the actual thread.

You did not answer my question when asked if you had actually read the DOJ report.
Instead you deflected and asked “where was my link”.

Since you are incapable of doing basic research here is the link to the actual report that has been on my network since the day it was released:

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

This is the actual report; not the opinion laced report from the left-wing media.

I have proven my initial post.

Pants Up, Don’t Loot.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 8:08 am
jkeller
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Where did everyone go? 🙁

I am still laughing at Mule claiming he read the DOJ report. People post links here all the time and he doesn't read them. You've already seen that he won't answer questions or take part in a debate. If I were a conservative, I would steer clear of this guy.

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Posting links to left-wing websites and blogs doesn’t garner my time.
I answer questions worthy of an answer but most questions posted by the liberals here are bogus or twists of my posts.

It is you that won’t engage in a debate. On this thread alone not one liberals has commented on the thread and only offer attacks on me. That alone says the liberals here are too scared to address the actual thread.

You did not answer my question when asked if you had actually read the DOJ report.
Instead you deflected and asked “where was my link”.

Since you are incapable of doing basic research here is the link to the actual report that has been on my network since the day it was released:

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

This is the actual report; not the opinion laced report from the left-wing media.

I have proven my initial post.

Pants Up, Don’t Loot.

Actually, no, you didn't prove your point. You claimed

justice Dept. created a phony report on the Freguson Police Department.
They cherry-picked and screwed information to create the appearance of a racist police department.

The report did nothing of the sort. It used statistics provided by the city and police department of Ferguson. The DOJ was both comprehensive and fair.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 8:54 am
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Pants Up, Don’t Loot.

You call other folks racist?

What do you mean by that statement?


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 10:09 am
Muleman1994
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Where did everyone go? 🙁

I am still laughing at Mule claiming he read the DOJ report. People post links here all the time and he doesn't read them. You've already seen that he won't answer questions or take part in a debate. If I were a conservative, I would steer clear of this guy.

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Posting links to left-wing websites and blogs doesn’t garner my time.
I answer questions worthy of an answer but most questions posted by the liberals here are bogus or twists of my posts.

It is you that won’t engage in a debate. On this thread alone not one liberals has commented on the thread and only offer attacks on me. That alone says the liberals here are too scared to address the actual thread.

You did not answer my question when asked if you had actually read the DOJ report.
Instead you deflected and asked “where was my link”.

Since you are incapable of doing basic research here is the link to the actual report that has been on my network since the day it was released:

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

This is the actual report; not the opinion laced report from the left-wing media.

I have proven my initial post.

Pants Up, Don’t Loot.

Actually, no, you didn't prove your point. You claimed

justice Dept. created a phony report on the Freguson Police Department.
They cherry-picked and screwed information to create the appearance of a racist police department.

The report did nothing of the sort. It used statistics provided by the city and police department of Ferguson. The DOJ was both comprehensive and fair.

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Wrong again.
The DOJ report ignored the fact that while the Ferguson population is 66% black, over 80% of the crimes are committed by blacks.
The DOJ report ignored the fact that 94% of the violence committed in Ferguson is committed by blacks.
The DOJ report failed to mention that the black applicants to the Police Department could not have the education requirements and could not pass the background checks or drug tests.
The DOJ report did not mention that while the population is 66% black only 29% bother to vote.

Your analysis of the actual report does not mention that you did not read the entire report nor take into consideration the actual crime statistics.

You failed to address the actual facts of black crime and violence.

Again, you are not willing or just too scared to even discuss the root causes of the problem.

My words are not racist. They address the factual reasons that lead to the shooting of Police Officers for no other reason than hate.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 11:55 am
jkeller
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Where did everyone go? 🙁

I am still laughing at Mule claiming he read the DOJ report. People post links here all the time and he doesn't read them. You've already seen that he won't answer questions or take part in a debate. If I were a conservative, I would steer clear of this guy.

___________________________________________________________________-

Posting links to left-wing websites and blogs doesn’t garner my time.
I answer questions worthy of an answer but most questions posted by the liberals here are bogus or twists of my posts.

It is you that won’t engage in a debate. On this thread alone not one liberals has commented on the thread and only offer attacks on me. That alone says the liberals here are too scared to address the actual thread.

You did not answer my question when asked if you had actually read the DOJ report.
Instead you deflected and asked “where was my link”.

Since you are incapable of doing basic research here is the link to the actual report that has been on my network since the day it was released:

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

This is the actual report; not the opinion laced report from the left-wing media.

I have proven my initial post.

Pants Up, Don’t Loot.

Actually, no, you didn't prove your point. You claimed

justice Dept. created a phony report on the Freguson Police Department.
They cherry-picked and screwed information to create the appearance of a racist police department.

The report did nothing of the sort. It used statistics provided by the city and police department of Ferguson. The DOJ was both comprehensive and fair.

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Wrong again.
The DOJ report ignored the fact that while the Ferguson population is 66% black, over 80% of the crimes are committed by blacks.
The DOJ report ignored the fact that 94% of the violence committed in Ferguson is committed by blacks.
The DOJ report failed to mention that the black applicants to the Police Department could not have the education requirements and could not pass the background checks or drug tests.
The DOJ report did not mention that while the population is 66% black only 29% bother to vote.

Your analysis of the actual report does not mention that you did not read the entire report nor take into consideration the actual crime statistics.

You failed to address the actual facts of black crime and violence.

Again, you are not willing or just too scared to even discuss the root causes of the problem.

My words are not racist. They address the factual reasons that lead to the shooting of Police Officers for no other reason than hate.

You didn't read the report nor do you understand the purpose of it. And, you make more racist remarks on this site than the rest of us combined. You were the reason the original Ben Carson thread was deleted. I am sure you were warned, but you do not listen.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 1:09 pm
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The fact that they are all black is fairly irrelevant.

And hey, at least there were actually people with their pants low looting Ferguson. This is way more than can be said about "hands up don't shoot" which is pulled out of thin air...

Did the young man the police shot have his hands up? I actually haven't been following the case very closely.

Are you saying that the term "Pants up, Don't loot" isn't racist?

That anyone could think that isn't racist turns my stomach.

Good for you, you found a picture of young, black thugs with their pants hanging low looting. I can find millions of pictures of young black men not looting.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 1:23 pm
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Hey Perry. It isn't the picture. It's the statement. In my mind the "pull up your pants" is code for young black lower class thugs. I've lived in the South most of my life. I've heard racist people speak in code for decades.

That is just my experience.

You stated that the fact the people are black is irrelevant. To me, just my opinion, it is the "pants down" that paints an entire segment of society as less than others because of their race.

I could be wrong. I've seen Justin Bieber where his pants low. Maybe it is just the fashion of the day for all looters?


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 1:48 pm
Muleman1994
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a little billy quote:

"Did the young man the police shot have his hands up? I actually haven't been following the case very closely. "

Never happened and Holder's Justice Department affirmed that there was no hands up, no don't shot.

Didn't happen.

BTW - on the three "witnesses" that testified before the Grand Jury that ssid it did:
2 of the 3 admitted that they lied and the other one was proven to have never even been in the area.
They lied.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 1:59 pm
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Hey Perry. It isn't the picture. It's the statement. In my mind the "pull up your pants" is code for young black lower class thugs. I've lived in the South most of my life. I've heard racist people speak in code for decades.

That is just my experience.

You stated that the fact the people are black is irrelevant. To me, just my opinion, it is the "pants down" that paints an entire segment of society as less than others because of their race.

I could be wrong. I've seen Justin Bieber where his pants low. Maybe it is just the fashion of the day for all looters?

Justin was hoping Selena Gomez would go down on him and loot his jewells:D

Billy, check your e-mail (not PM).


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 3:16 pm
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The phrase "Pants Up, Don't Loot" was first coined by Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, a black man.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 4:11 pm
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[justice Dept. created a phony report on the Freguson Police Department.
They cherry-picked and screwed information to create the appearance of a racist police department.

The report did nothing of the sort. It used statistics provided by the city and police department of Ferguson. The DOJ was both comprehensive and fair.

From a statistical standpoint that report looks to be flawed. Of course, we do have the
emails, which implicate about five officers.


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 4:25 pm
BillyBlastoff
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Maybe you are racist for associating sagging pants with black people and thuggery?

I fully considered that and questioned myself while writing that post. 😉


 
Posted : March 14, 2015 4:50 pm
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Meanwhile, black people are being murdered, almost exclusively by other black people and crime and violence continues to destroy communities.
Police Officers are being shot, some killed, for simply doing their job.

The liberals will not even discuss this serious problem and if a conservative does they are called a racist.

Conservatives are ready and willing to discuss and hopefully find answers and therefore save lives.

Will the liberals ever try?


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 6:40 am
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Police Officers are being shot, some killed, for simply doing their job.

This is something new????

I'm sure you have the racial breakdown of the shooters, right?


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 7:59 am
Muleman1994
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Meanwhile, black people are being murdered, almost exclusively by other black people and crime and violence continues to destroy communities.
Police Officers are being shot, some killed, for simply doing their job.

The liberals will not even discuss this serious problem and if a conservative does they are called a racist.

Conservatives are ready and willing to discuss and hopefully find answers and therefore save lives.

Will the liberals ever try?

You seem willing and determined to fix the problem. Certainly you don't need the liberals to help you? I say forget those hippies!

Maybe you could find some fellow conservatives in your area to talk about this serious problem with, perhaps meet over coffee once a month and come up with some real ways to help.

Good for you for taking action. Please keep us updated with your progress on this important conservative issue.

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You just proved my point.

Liberals here will not even discuss the problem and according to you are not willing to help.


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 8:28 am
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White on white crime is much higher - maybe you should tackle that first.............


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 8:59 am
Muleman1994
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White on white crime is much higher - maybe you should tackle that first.............

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As a percentage of of each races population, black crime is far more prevalent

Your attempt to deflect from the actual problem fails.


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 11:04 am
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A twenty year old man, Jeffery Williams, has been arrested and charged with shooting two police officers in Ferguson, MO.
The suspect was wanted for passion of stolen merchandise and failure to report to his probation officer for 7 months.
The suspect has admitted he did fire the shots and the weapon was recovered.
He is being held on a $300,000 cash bond.
It appears that this was a drive-by shooting.
Mr. Williams, a known protestor in Ferguson, has many charges against him.


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 11:05 am
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White on white crime is much higher - maybe you should tackle that first.............

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As a percentage of of each races population, black crime is far more prevalent

Your attempt to deflect from the actual problem fails.

Your attempt at adding anything useful or coherent to any of these treads is failing badly.


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 11:10 am
Muleman1994
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White on white crime is much higher - maybe you should tackle that first.............

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As a percentage of of each races population, black crime is far more prevalent

Your attempt to deflect from the actual problem fails.

Your attempt at adding anything useful or coherent to any of these treads is failing badly.

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How would you know?
You have never added anything to a thread other than throwing insults.


 
Posted : March 15, 2015 11:27 am
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The GOP had nothing to do with crime and subsequent riots and looting in Ferguson.
That was a liberals and hate groups thing.

The DOJ Ferguson Report fails to include the actual criminal data which shows that while Blacks make up 66% of the population they commit over 80% of the crimes.

Obama, Holder, Sharpton and many others ginned up the “another white police officer shooting an unarmed black teenager” line when the truth is that Michael Brown, having already assaulted Officer Wilson was charging the officer again.
The “other” DOJ report on the actual crime by Michael Brown that finds Officer Wilson acted appropriately is rarely mentioned.
There was no “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot”. It didn’t happen but that fact belies the liberals and hate group’s narrative so that is also rarely mentioned.

The entire premise (excuse) of the Ferguson riots and looting was based on lies but supported by Sharpton and the rest of the hate groups and their liberal lackeys.

And I’m sorry folks; if you attack a police officer, point a gun at them or shoot one, you are going down hard and should be.


 
Posted : March 16, 2015 9:36 am
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Liberals here will not even discuss the problem and according to you are not willing to help.

Are you saying that Liberals have never proposed tougher gun control?


 
Posted : March 17, 2015 1:57 pm
Muleman1994
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Liberals here will not even discuss the problem and according to you are not willing to help.

Are you saying that Liberals have never proposed tougher gun control?

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Do really think that the ghetto guns are bought legally; under existing or proposed laws?
Have you ever actually read the proposed gun control legislation the liberals hype when they make a statement to the media to try and garner votes.
These are of course politicians who are surrounded by security packin' heat.
Nothing in those proposals will prevent criminals from getting guns but it will curtail honest, law abiding citizens from protecting themselves from the criminals.


 
Posted : March 17, 2015 2:15 pm
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Liberals here will not even discuss the problem and according to you are not willing to help.

Are you saying that Liberals have never proposed tougher gun control?

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Do really think that the ghetto guns are bought legally; under existing or proposed laws?
Have you ever actually read the proposed gun control legislation the liberals hype when they make a statement to the media to try and garner votes.
These are of course politicians who are surrounded by security packin' heat.
Nothing in those proposals will prevent criminals from getting guns but it will curtail honest, law abiding citizens from protecting themselves from the criminals.

That wasn't what he asked you. The Democrats have tried to enact legislation making it tougher to obtain guns. The Republicans flat out refuse to do anything. Their gun control lobby will not allow them to support anything that might get guns off the street. You can argue all day about how criminals get guns, but as long as the Republicans block any and all gun control legislation, the situation will only get worse.


 
Posted : March 17, 2015 2:45 pm
Muleman1994
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Liberals here will not even discuss the problem and according to you are not willing to help.

Are you saying that Liberals have never proposed tougher gun control?

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Do really think that the ghetto guns are bought legally; under existing or proposed laws?
Have you ever actually read the proposed gun control legislation the liberals hype when they make a statement to the media to try and garner votes.
These are of course politicians who are surrounded by security packin' heat.
Nothing in those proposals will prevent criminals from getting guns but it will curtail honest, law abiding citizens from protecting themselves from the criminals.

That wasn't what he asked you. The Democrats have tried to enact legislation making it tougher to obtain guns. The Republicans flat out refuse to do anything. Their gun control lobby will not allow them to support anything that might get guns off the street. You can argue all day about how criminals get guns, but as long as the Republicans block any and all gun control legislation, the situation will only get worse.

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The Democrats legislation would only make it harder for law abiding citizens to protecting themselves. Nothing in their proposals would put a dent in the street sale of guns.

The Republicans will always refuse to support any law that would restrict a citizens 2nd Amendment Rights.

The situation will continue to get worse as long as The Democrats do not craft legislation to come down on street sale of guns and refuse to even discuss the cultural problems in those neighborhoods.

The NRA is all about protecting citizens 2nd Amendment Rights and gun safety.
You don’t often see criminals attending their courses much less registering their weapons.


 
Posted : March 17, 2015 3:46 pm
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