Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Due To Trump
March 10, 2016 11:08 AM
PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Nearly 46,000 Pennsylvania Democrats have switched to Republicans since the beginning of the year.
According to Penn Live, some experts attribute the mass exodus to Donald Trump.
There’s even a title for the movement. It’s called “Ditch and Switch” and calls for lifelong Democrats to abandon the party, register Republican, and help ensure Trump’s place in the general election.
Professor of Public Affairs at Franklin and Marshall College , Dr. G. Terry Madonna, tells the paper he has a theory behind the switch.
“With the increase in support in exit polls for Trump among working class, blue-collar Democrats, it is my belief that these are people who fall into that genre,” said Madonna.
The numbers are similar in other states as well.
The paper says in Massachusetts, as many as 20,000 Democrats have gone from blue-to-red this year with Trump cited as a primary reason. And in Ohio, as many as 1,000 blue collar workers have promised to switch parties and vote for Trump.
Numbers show that some Republicans are also switching to the Democratic party, but nowhere near the numbers that are switching to Republican.
Records show that the party changes seen in the first two months of 2016 are twice those seen in all of 2013.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/03/10/report-46000-pa-democrats-become-republicans-due-to-trump/
Ohio's 'dirty little secret': blue-collar Democrats for Trump
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-ohio-insight-idUSMTZSAPEC3ATLGUM9
Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Due To Trump
March 10, 2016 11:08 AM
PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Nearly 46,000 Pennsylvania Democrats have switched to Republicans since the beginning of the year.
According to Penn Live, some experts attribute the mass exodus to Donald Trump.
There’s even a title for the movement. It’s called “Ditch and Switch” and calls for lifelong Democrats to abandon the party, register Republican, and help ensure Trump’s place in the general election.
Professor of Public Affairs at Franklin and Marshall College , Dr. G. Terry Madonna, tells the paper he has a theory behind the switch.
“With the increase in support in exit polls for Trump among working class, blue-collar Democrats, it is my belief that these are people who fall into that genre,” said Madonna.
The numbers are similar in other states as well.The paper says in Massachusetts, as many as 20,000 Democrats have gone from blue-to-red this year with Trump cited as a primary reason. And in Ohio, as many as 1,000 blue collar workers have promised to switch parties and vote for Trump.
Numbers show that some Republicans are also switching to the Democratic party, but nowhere near the numbers that are switching to Republican.
Records show that the party changes seen in the first two months of 2016 are twice those seen in all of 2013.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/03/10/report-46000-pa-democrats-become-republicans-due-to-trump/
Ohio's 'dirty little secret': blue-collar Democrats for Trump
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-ohio-insight-idUSMTZSAPEC3ATLGUM9/blockquote >
Not surprising that Democrats would switch to insure that Trump is the Republican nominee. He's the best thing to happen to the Democrats in a long time.
Not surprising that Democrats would switch to insure that Trump is the Republican nominee. He's the best thing to happen to the Democrats in a long time.
That isn't what is happening here.
A reporter from CNN is in Youngstown and the Mahoning Valley this week doing a story on the number of Democrats that have been taking the Republican ballot in support of Trump. I forget the reporters name, he was on our local talk radio show with Ron Verb yesterday.
The thing with the blue collar workers appeal to Trump centers on the trade issue and giant sucking sound and the deindustrialization of this country.
This was steel country, it's still largely been a manufacturing area, just much smaller now.
Through Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and now Obama people here have seen their lot in life diminish, much less improve, and the prospects for future job opportunities do not look bright with more of the same mainstream politicians preach.
People are tired of the same old promises...or lies.
No matter where you are on Trump, maybe his promises are lies too. But people are seeing things differently.
The fact of the matter is alot of these people who have voted Democrat their entire lives just don't see things the way some on this message board might on certain hot button issues often discussed here. If you vote Democrat strictly because you're union and you've always thought that was the best way and don't care or subscribe to any of the other principles of the Democrat party then there is a giant feeling of betrayal and thrown away votes on past Presidents. Because what has it gotten them, where has it gotten them?
They could vote for Bernie...he has the same positions as Trump on trade, but Trump has tapped into something in this Democrat stronghold of Mahoning and Trumbull County Ohio. We'll see how the results go next week.
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by nebish]
Not surprising that Democrats would switch to insure that Trump is the Republican nominee. He's the best thing to happen to the Democrats in a long time.
That isn't what is happening here.
A reporter from CNN is in Youngstown and the Mahoning Valley this week doing a story on the number of Democrats that have been taking the Republican ballot in support of Trump. I forget the reporters name, he was on our local talk radio show with Ron Verb yesterday.
The thing with the blue collar workers appeal to Trump centers on the trade issue and giant sucking sound and the deindustrialization of this country.
This was steel country, it's still largely been a manufacturing area, just much smaller now.
Through Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and now Obama people here have seen their lot in life diminish, much less improve, and the prospects for future job opportunities do not look bright with more of the same mainstream politicians preach.
People are tired of the same old promises...or lies.
No matter where you are on Trump, maybe his promises are lies too. But people are seeing things differently.
The fact of the matter is alot of these people who have voted Democrat their entire lives just don't see things the way some on this message board might on certain hot button issues often discussed here. If you vote Democrat strictly because you're union and you've always thought that was the best way and don't care or subscribe to any of the other principles of the Democrat party then there is a giant feeling of betrayal and thrown away votes on past Presidents. Because what has it gotten them, where has it gotten them?
They could vote for Bernie...he has the same positions as Trump on trade, but Trump has tapped into something in this Democrat stronghold of Mahoning and Trumbull County Ohio. We'll see how the results go next week.
None of that changes the fact that Trump is unelectable and the Democrats know that.
People are tired of the same old promises...or lies.
This is what is so astonishing about Trump. He lies (or simply gets his facts wrong) as much as if not more than any of the other candidates, and he's not even good it at it...the majority of his lies are so far-fetched that they don't even pass the straight face test most of the time, and when's is wrong on facts no one cares. He's offered little to nothing in the way of actual policy initiatives that include "how to" explanations to support the things he says he's going to do (Q: How are you going to Make American Great Again, Mr. Trump? A: Doesn't matter because we're just going to do it.). And his complete lack of decorum and class is unlike anything I've ever seen in politics or experienced in business. He is a caricature, a snake oil salesman, and a xenophobic demagogue all rolled into one. The only thing I'm left with to try to explain his electoral success to this point is that it has been based solely on the weakness of the other candidates.
None of that changes the fact that Trump is unelectable and the Democrats know that.
No, Democrats are praying this is true.
None of that changes the fact that Trump is unelectable and the Democrats know that.
No, Democrats are praying this is true.
I'm sure they are doing more than praying. Trump supporters, while wrong-headed (my opinion), are extremely motivated. They are showing up in droves to vote in the primaries. Yet, while he is admittedly the Republican front-runner, he can only muster 30-35% of the Republican vote. The other 60-65% is split between 3 candidates. Do you really believe that a significant number of supporters of other candidates would switch their support to Trump if their preferred candidate dropped out? Not likely. So how is a guy with only a third of his party's support going to win in the general? He has a corner on the pissed-off voters, but he's already tapped out that demographic. If he wants to win clear-thinking voters he's going to have to come up with more than, "It will be great, believe me". But does he have more? I don't think so. So he loses. He would lose one-on-one to any Republican candidate and he will lose to Hillary. That's just my opinion based upon what I see. Novemeber may prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
None of that changes the fact that Trump is unelectable and the Democrats know that.
No, Democrats are praying this is true.
I'm sure they are doing more than praying. /// November may prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
Doubt away, personally I can not throw him my vote, but I understand where his popularity stems from. People are sick and tired of Political correctness and more of the same. Stuffed shirts who spew whatever they believe the public will swallow. I think the "Trump effect" also explains Bernie Saunders.....Hillary on the other hand shows me just how stupid and gullible Democrats are; who and where would she be if it were not for her last name?
I think you may need a ride to Canada.
None of that changes the fact that Trump is unelectable and the Democrats know that.
No, Democrats are praying this is true.
I'm sure they are doing more than praying. /// November may prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
Doubt away, personally I can not throw him my vote, but I understand where his popularity stems from. People are sick and tired of Political correctness and more of the same. Stuffed shirts who spew whatever they believe the public will swallow. I think the "Trump effect" also explains Bernie Saunders.....Hillary on the other hand shows me just how stupid and gullible Democrats are; who and where would she be if it were not for her last name?
I think you may need a ride to Canada.
I don't disagree with anything you say except for my need to go to Canada. Trump loses. Hillary wins. I go to a small cabin off the grid in Montana. 😉
BTW, I am a little hurt that you dismissed my brilliant logic with a "///". 🙁
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by bob1954]
Stuffed shirts who spew whatever they believe the public will swallow.
Funny, I think this is EXACTLY what Trump is doing...he's is playing to a specific segment of the electorate and they are lapping it up. I'm just not sure his appeal will broad enough to win in a general election, although that also depends who the other choice(s) is/are.
I think you may need a ride to Canada.
If there were an American version of Trudeau running for POTUS I think he could win in a landslide.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Mercantilism.html
Good stuff. Thanks.
Re: diverse support - Women make up biggest voting block, & in national election I doubt he takes that significant segment of voters. He won't win the black vote, and with his "kind" words he can write off Hispanics where he's got an unfavorable rating of about 80%. Then there is the Muslim vote - another of his favorite targets, and I'm guessing he'd be in the single digits at best.
I'm still back at will he get the nomination. One thing that many talking heads get wrong is that "women" are a category. There are white, hispanic, black, asian, and other women of various religions and levels of education. I've read articles - most notably by Gloria Steinheim - that she's shocked "women" aren't voting for Hillary in order to elect the first woman president. Young women voters don't see that as a deal breaker or maker; they vote on issues.
But hey, Trump loves "undereducated people" so I guess that's a separate category to consider.
I was put off by the Steiheim mantra. On the other hand "women" are a category and what you correctly described would fall into subcategories. I will go on record right now and say that whoever the Dem. candidate is will win the "women" vote regardless of who the GOP candidate is. With his attitude towards women and repulsive comments, Trump would do worse than anyone else the GOP would nominate. (see Megyn Kelly for but one example).
But, hey listen to Trump, and he will tell you how much everyone loves him. Talk condescendingly to people, and they will come out in droves to vote for him...pretty simple, Donald...right? 😛
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And the people are coming out in droves to vote for him.
Hundreds of thousands of democrats are dumping that party, signing up as Republicans and voting for Trump!
Not one of the liberals here has any idea why Republican voters a coming out in record setting numbers and the number of votes for democrats is way down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Mercantilism.html
Good stuff. Thanks.
well it's a kinda basic background thing. Trump doesn't actually say what his trade policies will be. He talks in simple terms so i'll reply in simple terms. 😛
I'm voting for Trump, and if he does not get the nomination, then I will go with Cruz; if they give it to Rubio I will write in Alex Jones. Trump knows there is a problem in Islam but he does not know much about it. Maybe I should get him a Quran and a Bible because if he is the nominee, he will be tested like never before, and will have a BIG responsibility to all people.
There is a war going on, Osama called it a Holy War, and the Muslims are trying to lead the way, but in many instances they are not completely correct. There is the sectarianism, quasi militia groups, backed by different governments who just want to stir things up and take out different govts. and regimes. There is also a war going on among the un-Godly people who want to create their New World Order, ungodly people enslaving other ungodly people and trying to get anyone who has any sense of God out of the way entirely.
With all this going on, I think we need new leadership. Trump offers a chance at that, I also think he will not bow down to the the anti-Christ or give America and it's people over to be ruled by the anti-Christ.
[Edited on 3/12/2016 by gina]
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------well it's a kinda basic background thing. Trump doesn't actually say what his trade policies will be. He talks in simple terms so i'll reply in simple terms.
And what is the point here?
Do you support NAFTA, GATT, CAFTA, Favored Nation Status with China, TPP? Do you support a group like the WTO dictating to the US what is and isn’t acceptable to us? To you are these good things for the US economy? And you want more of the same?
I don’t.
What do you take from comparing free trade in practice and theory to free trade in reality and outcomes?
The NY Times link tells the story of tariff on Chinese tires resulted in Americans spending 1.1 billion more on tires. Well, did we spend more money for Chinese tires? If we did atleast the Government got some tax out of it (which can go to spend on some of those safety net programs displaced US workers rely on). Or when those tires were more expensive did those sales go to American tire companies who produced tires in the US? If the question is should Goodyear get the sale or some Chinese company, what do you think that answer should be? If the question is should we be paying an American worker at an American factory in an American community (who pays taxes and supports local economies) OR a Chinese worker, at a Chinese factory in China who supports the Chinese economy..what do you want that answer to be? Not to mention labor and environmental abuses that liberals care so much about...where is a better place for us to be buying tires from, China or the US? Low cost import tires put pressure on Goodyear to close plants here and make tires somewhere else. So we bring in Chinese tires, free and clear with no tariff...American tire companies feel the competitive pressure and close a plant say Oklahoma and make the same tire in say Thailand. The people in Oklahoma lose their jobs, the community loses a huge stream of local taxes and enrollment in social programs and government assistance grows. That is a good equation and outcome for you?
Economists love the concept of outsourcing, because by outsourcing low skill work it frees up resources for what they are more productive at. The problem is what if those resources (like US workers) don’t have equal or better paying opportunities? The corporation reaps huge benefits, at the expense of American workers that they can now kick to the curb. I guess this is what you want?
The State Department pushed for trade in the early 1900s as a way to achieve foreign policy objectives. Once corporations realized the amazing profit potential of moving operations to countries with lower overhead and operating costs it was a match made in heaven for both government and corporate bottom lines. Put it together with campaign donations and lobbyists and we fell stuck into the rut of more and more free trade. To hell with the displaced workers, put them on social services or have them take that lower paying job and maybe if they are buying cheaper stuff it won’t hurt that bad. A race to the bottom, cheaper wages, cheaper goods, lower standard of living and less prosperity (except for those capitalizing on bigger profits from foreign production).
This is THE market to be in. This market should have an entry fee for outsiders.
We can tariff 1 of the 10 or so Kias that are imported from Korea (I believe they make 2 or 3 models here and import about 8 or 9 models). What will Kia’s response be? It may be in their interest to expand manufacturing of more Kia models here instead of paying the tariff. That is a good development for American workers. That is a good outcome, foreign investment here spurring construction and jobs that add value to the end product meaning good wages (not some $15 minimum wage figure pulled out of the air). Plus schools and police and fire and parks and libraries all have a better tax base for their necessary revenue. And less people dependent on social welfare and safety net programs. This is a win!
I am an economic nationalist. I don’t see protecting something as a bad thing. Do you, protectionism is good when it comes to a national forest for instance, but bad when it comes to US workers? I do want trade managed in a way that benefits our workers and our nation.
Economists think on a global scale. We need somebody to think on a USA scale. If you are happy with the state of the US economy, then I guess vote for another mainstream candidate and we will get more and more of the same...sold down the river by the government and corporations. Sanders or Trump are the candidates on this issue. Only Sanders and Trump.
Not one of the liberals here has any idea why Republican voters a coming out in record setting numbers and the number of votes for democrats is way down.
Here's an idea. Our country has been getting more and more dysfunctional over the past few decades. More and more families are broken and filled with anger with no supportive outlet to deal with it. Those who are angry, hateful, and dysfunctional are coming out in droves to vote for Trump - it is their supportive outlet they have been yearning for. As for the low voter turnout for Democrats, if that's even true, I can only speak for myself when I say that I have no interest in voting because I believe nothing will get done no matter who is in office due to the childish corruption in Washington. How is that?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/-trade-donald-trump-breaks-20 0-years-economic-orthodoxy-mercantilism.html?_r=0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Good stuff. Thanks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------well it's a kinda basic background thing. Trump doesn't actually say what his trade policies will be. He talks in simple terms so i'll reply in simple terms.
And what is the point here?
Do you support NAFTA, GATT, CAFTA, Favored Nation Status with China, TPP? Do you support a group like the WTO dictating to the US what is and isn’t acceptable to us? To you are these good things for the US economy? And you want more of the same?
I don’t.
What do you take from comparing free trade in practice and theory to free trade in reality and outcomes?
The NY Times link tells the story of tariff on Chinese tires resulted in Americans spending 1.1 billion more on tires. Well, did we spend more money for Chinese tires? If we did atleast the Government got some tax out of it (which can go to spend on some of those safety net programs displaced US workers rely on). Or when those tires were more expensive did those sales go to American tire companies who produced tires in the US? If the question is should Goodyear get the sale or some Chinese company, what do you think that answer should be? If the question is should we be paying an American worker at an American factory in an American community (who pays taxes and supports local economies) OR a Chinese worker, at a Chinese factory in China who supports the Chinese economy..what do you want that answer to be? Not to mention labor and environmental abuses that liberals care so much about...where is a better place for us to be buying tires from, China or the US? Low cost import tires put pressure on Goodyear to close plants here and make tires somewhere else. So we bring in Chinese tires, free and clear with no tariff...American tire companies feel the competitive pressure and close a plant say Oklahoma and make the same tire in say Thailand. The people in Oklahoma lose their jobs, the community loses a huge stream of local taxes and enrollment in social programs and government assistance grows. That is a good equation and outcome for you?
Economists love the concept of outsourcing, because by outsourcing low skill work it frees up resources for what they are more productive at. The problem is what if those resources (like US workers) don’t have equal or better paying opportunities? The corporation reaps huge benefits, at the expense of American workers that they can now kick to the curb. I guess this is what you want?
The State Department pushed for trade in the early 1900s as a way to achieve foreign policy objectives. Once corporations realized the amazing profit potential of moving operations to countries with lower overhead and operating costs it was a match made in heaven for both government and corporate bottom lines. Put it together with campaign donations and lobbyists and we fell stuck into the rut of more and more free trade. To hell with the displaced workers, put them on social services or have them take that lower paying job and maybe if they are buying cheaper stuff it won’t hurt that bad. A race to the bottom, cheaper wages, cheaper goods, lower standard of living and less prosperity (except for those capitalizing on bigger profits from foreign production).
This is THE market to be in. This market should have an entry fee for outsiders.
We can tariff 1 of the 10 or so Kias that are imported from Korea (I believe they make 2 or 3 models here and import about 8 or 9 models). What will Kia’s response be? It may be in their interest to expand manufacturing of more Kia models here instead of paying the tariff. That is a good development for American workers. That is a good outcome, foreign investment here spurring construction and jobs that add value to the end product meaning good wages (not some $15 minimum wage figure pulled out of the air). Plus schools and police and fire and parks and libraries all have a better tax base for their necessary revenue. And less people dependent on social welfare and safety net programs. This is a win!
I am an economic nationalist. I don’t see protecting something as a bad thing. Do you, protectionism is good when it comes to a national forest for instance, but bad when it comes to US workers? I do want trade managed in a way that benefits our workers and our nation.
Economists think on a global scale. We need somebody to think on a USA scale. If you are happy with the state of the US economy, then I guess vote for another mainstream candidate and we will get more and more of the same...sold down the river by the government and corporations. Sanders or Trump are the candidates on this issue. Only Sanders and Trump.
i believe free trade has benefited more americans than it has hurt.
Not one of the liberals here has any idea why Republican voters a coming out in record setting numbers and the number of votes for democrats is way down.
Here's an idea. Our country has been getting more and more dysfunctional over the past few decades. More and more families are broken and filled with anger with no supportive outlet to deal with it. Those who are angry, hateful, and dysfunctional are coming out in droves to vote for Trump - it is their supportive outlet they have been yearning for. As for the low voter turnout for Democrats, if that's even true, I can only speak for myself when I say that I have no interest in voting because I believe nothing will get done no matter who is in office due to the childish corruption in Washington. How is that?
Sad but true. I believe we're at a point where gov't is just gov't. I don't believe there is anyone in either party that can really make significant differences. Minor changes...yes. The followers of Trump are delusional if they think he will any different...maybe more of a loud mouth as we see examples of that every day from him. However, he will be forced to work within a system that even he can't control. He'd also have to work with a Republican Congress, and he's not a Republican. "The great deal maker" will find that brokering deals with Congress and the world are not as oversimplified as he touts in his whip up the anger rallies.
The above assumes he will be elected which I believe is highly doubtful.
i believe free trade has benefited more americans than it has hurt.
So wages have been going up? Americans have more job opportunities? Income inequality has been going down? Trade deficits don't matter and neither do budget deficits? And parents still feel their kids will be better off than they are?
I'd like to live in the America you think you are seeing.
The devastating effects of trade deals that favor foreign nations and workers at the expense of our nation and our workers just is not a problem from where you stand.
"dysfunctional" "broken" " filled with anger" "angry" "hateful"
Typical. This is how the left classifies anyone who disagrees with their views, because, well they are either just bigots, racists, Homophobic & ignorant. Be like us, the tolerant ones, or else......
Yep, this must be the only answer.
Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Due To Trump
March 10, 2016 11:08 AM
PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Nearly 46,000 Pennsylvania Democrats have switched to Republicans since the beginning of the year.
According to Penn Live, some experts attribute the mass exodus to Donald Trump.
There’s even a title for the movement. It’s called “Ditch and Switch” and calls for lifelong Democrats to abandon the party, register Republican, and help ensure Trump’s place in the general election.
Professor of Public Affairs at Franklin and Marshall College , Dr. G. Terry Madonna, tells the paper he has a theory behind the switch.
“With the increase in support in exit polls for Trump among working class, blue-collar Democrats, it is my belief that these are people who fall into that genre,” said Madonna.
The numbers are similar in other states as well.The paper says in Massachusetts, as many as 20,000 Democrats have gone from blue-to-red this year with Trump cited as a primary reason. And in Ohio, as many as 1,000 blue collar workers have promised to switch parties and vote for Trump.
Numbers show that some Republicans are also switching to the Democratic party, but nowhere near the numbers that are switching to Republican.
Records show that the party changes seen in the first two months of 2016 are twice those seen in all of 2013.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/03/10/report-46000-pa-democrats-become-republicans-due-to-trump/
Ohio's 'dirty little secret': blue-collar Democrats for Trump
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-ohio-insight-idUSMTZSAPEC3ATLGUM9
We ought to do that in New York.
will not even start with all the anomalies, or coincidences. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt the steel, thermite was used, first responders saw it. People in the bldgs., first responders and others, felt the bombs going off in the bldgs. etc. etc.
Whoever said the metal melted? It didn't it was simply hot enough to collapse under the weight of the building over it. And what has this got to do with Trump? You are odd.
BTW, Trump has never said what any of his plans were because everything he says is just rhetoric. But after reading the quote above, I can see that you are very gullible.
Whoever said the molten metal melted? First responders saw it when they were there, I saw it in documentaries, and it is probably documented also.
The Official Fire-Based Hypothesis Cannot Account for the Red-Hot Steel Beams and Pools of Molten Metal Seen During the First Weeks of Clean-up
Numerous professionals have testified that they saw "molten steel" beneath the Ground Zero rubble.
See photos on the webpage and links.
will not even start with all the anomalies, or coincidences. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt the steel, thermite was used, first responders saw it. People in the bldgs., first responders and others, felt the bombs going off in the bldgs. etc. etc.
Whoever said the metal melted? It didn't it was simply hot enough to collapse under the weight of the building over it. And what has this got to do with Trump? You are odd.
BTW, Trump has never said what any of his plans were because everything he says is just rhetoric. But after reading the quote above, I can see that you are very gullible.
Whoever said the molten metal melted? First responders saw it when they were there, I saw it in documentaries, and it is probably documented also.
The Official Fire-Based Hypothesis Cannot Account for the Red-Hot Steel Beams and Pools of Molten Metal Seen During the First Weeks of Clean-up
Numerous professionals have testified that they saw "molten steel" beneath the Ground Zero rubble.
See photos on the webpage and links.
There are so many holes in that piece that it would be a waste of time to cover them. Just to give you one example, the piece claims that the only aluminum would have been from the plane. Not true. When the building was built, it was built with all floors open, no individual offices. when the floors were partitioned into rooms, aluminum was used for the studs that the wallboard was nailed to. Plus, seeing as the WTC was built in the early 70's, the electrical wiring in the building may very well have aluminum.
It is easy to see why you support Trump. You are extremely gullible.
Just another thought on Mr. Trump. I am currently sitting at my home desk, dancing around the the net, with CNN on the TV in the other room. They are "Covering" an upcoming speaking engagement by the aforementioned "candidate" like he is a visiting dignitary from another planet.......(hitting the return button, this is on FOX & MSNBC as well)....so as CNN was going to a commercial, they had a camera outside the event venue focused on the people in line and gheesh, not the best dressed lot. Watching this, one can not help but feel that the media is almost hoping for violence.......ratings baby. So I was thinking, if success in any campaign, for any office is dependent on mobilization and the ability to appeal to one's base......What percentage of "Middle America" and for lack of a better term "lower class" voters is he sending to the polls?...What % of this country do "they" account for? The scary part to me is that he is speaking to a larger group of new listeners every day......A possible, true silent majority.....
Lord Help Us
Not one of the liberals here has any idea why Republican voters a coming out in record setting numbers and the number of votes for democrats is way down.
Here's an idea. Our country has been getting more and more dysfunctional over the past few decades. More and more families are broken and filled with anger with no supportive outlet to deal with it. Those who are angry, hateful, and dysfunctional are coming out in droves to vote for Trump - it is their supportive outlet they have been yearning for. As for the low voter turnout for Democrats, if that's even true, I can only speak for myself when I say that I have no interest in voting because I believe nothing will get done no matter who is in office due to the childish corruption in Washington. How is that?
Sad but true. I believe we're at a point where gov't is just gov't. I don't believe there is anyone in either party that can really make significant differences. Minor changes...yes. The followers of Trump are delusional if they think he will any different...maybe more of a loud mouth as we see examples of that every day from him. However, he will be forced to work within a system that even he can't control. He'd also have to work with a Republican Congress, and he's not a Republican. "The great deal maker" will find that brokering deals with Congress and the world are not as oversimplified as he touts in his whip up the anger rallies.
Maybe a non-politician will finally get a chance. It's a mistake to automatically assume Trump would do a poor job. Give him a chance. If he fails, vote him out in four. We'll survive.
Not one of the liberals here has any idea why Republican voters a coming out in record setting numbers and the number of votes for democrats is way down.
Here's an idea. Our country has been getting more and more dysfunctional over the past few decades. More and more families are broken and filled with anger with no supportive outlet to deal with it. Those who are angry, hateful, and dysfunctional are coming out in droves to vote for Trump - it is their supportive outlet they have been yearning for. As for the low voter turnout for Democrats, if that's even true, I can only speak for myself when I say that I have no interest in voting because I believe nothing will get done no matter who is in office due to the childish corruption in Washington. How is that?
Sad but true. I believe we're at a point where gov't is just gov't. I don't believe there is anyone in either party that can really make significant differences. Minor changes...yes. The followers of Trump are delusional if they think he will any different...maybe more of a loud mouth as we see examples of that every day from him. However, he will be forced to work within a system that even he can't control. He'd also have to work with a Republican Congress, and he's not a Republican. "The great deal maker" will find that brokering deals with Congress and the world are not as oversimplified as he touts in his whip up the anger rallies.
Maybe a non-politician will finally get a chance. It's a mistake to automatically assume Trump would do a poor job. Give him a chance. If he fails, vote him out in four. We'll survive.
A non-politician would be welcomed. Trump, the non-politician would be a disaster. Haven't you seen the vitriol he spews at his rallies, speeches, and in debates? He has taken serious discussion to an all time low. The garbage that comes out of his mouth is repulsive and dangerous.
Will you vote for him, alloak?