I still can't understand why Christie doesn't get more respect among conservatives.
That's easy. It's because he complemented Obama once. If you go even one second without considering Obama to be the anti-Christ, that pretty much blows your chances of winning the Republican nomination.
All I will say about Cruz is........not a snowball's chance in hell!!!
The snowball might have a better chance. Extreme longshot (no pun intended)
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I still can't understand why Christie doesn't get more respect among conservatives.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------That's easy. It's because he complemented Obama once. If you go even one second without considering Obama to be the anti-Christ, that pretty much blows your chances of winning the Republican nomination.
I agree. He was the right-wing golden boy before Hurrican Sandy, and then when he complimented Obama's efforts to help NJ, his party abandoned him. They admonish one of their own simply because he showed class, partisanship, leadership, kindness, and maturity. The Republicans sure need to get their head on straight.
Actually, Bernie Sanders is a socialist, makes no bones about it. I've long thought that the two most honest men in Congress were Sanders and Dennis Kucinich. Maybe they are outside the norms, but at least they are completely honest about who they are.
Now on this I agree. As opposed to say President Obama and Hillary Clinton who are completely dishonest about who they are.
Let's be honest Doug how many politicians from either party who have a chance to run for POTUS are completely honest about who they are? I am not saying this is right just that in today's politics it is what it is.
We aren't talking about flip flopping on a position or two but about major major lies about the underlying philosophy. Obama claimed to be a moderate and a healer and uniter. In every imaginable way he has been the exact opposite. I honestly have no idea what Hillary Clinton's core positions are. My instinct tells me she is pretty left but I don't know that she would govern that way. On the other hand I suspect we will know pretty clearly who Ted Cruz is, Who Marco Rubio is, Who Scott Walker is and who Jeb Bush is among other candidates.
Chris Christie is an overweight loudmouth eleitist. No thanks.
Always keeping it classy.
Chris Christie is an overweight loudmouth eleitist. No thanks.
Always keeping it classy.
thats rich coming from you in reference to Chris Christie. Shouldn't you be schtupping on the Hilary thread?
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Chris Christie is an overweight loudmouth eleitist. No thanks.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------thats rich coming from you in reference to Chris Christie. Shouldn't you be schtupping on the Hilary thread?
You obviously don't read the forum that much. I've always liked Christie, and have never once stumped for Hillary. Although if she runs, my money is on her to win.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-9-11-taste-in-music
Ted Cruz: I Started Listening To Country Music Because Of 9/11 (VIDEO)
By BRENDAN JAMES
Published MARCH 24, 2015, 11:27 AM EDT
Leaving no political stone unturned, newly-declared presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) had a very particular answer on Tuesday when asked about his taste in music.
"You know, music is interesting," he said on CBS "This Morning." "I grew up listening to classic rock, and I'll tell you sort of an odd story."
"My music taste changed on 9/11," he said, followed by a pause.
Co-host Gayle King nodded.
"I actually intellectually find this very curious, but on 9/11, I didn't like how rock music responded," the senator went on. "And country music, collectively, the way they responded, it resonated with me."
Cruz did not specify which rock artists "responded" to the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks in a way that led him to switch genres. But he repeated that he's been firmly country ever since.
"I had an emotional reaction that said, 'these are my people.' So ever since 2001 I listen to country music," he concluded.
Watch the clip, courtesy of CBS:
Do you find his answer amusing? At least you know where he stands. Hilary may need to think about it for a while or give another mets-yankees type response as soon as the pol results come in. As for his hypothesis, i always admired U2 and the superbowl performance and Neil youngs song he wrote (was it called the call). Didnt care for any of the poorly written patriotic skynerd stuff.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/index.html
Ted Cruz going on Obamacare
By Dana Bash and MJ Lee, CNN
Updated 4:37 PM ET, Tue March 24, 2015
(CNN)Ted Cruz is going on Obamacare.
The newly announced Republican presidential candidate told CNN's Dana Bash on Tuesday that he will sign up for health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act -- a law he has been on a crusade to kill.
"We'll be getting new health insurance and we'll presumably do it through my job with the Senate, and so we'll be on the federal exchange with millions of others on the federal exchange," Cruz said.
Asked whether he would accept the government subsidy available to lawmakers and congressional staffers for their health care coverage through the ACA, Cruz said he will "follow the text of the law."
"I strongly oppose the exemption that President Obama illegally put in place for members of Congress because (Senate Minority Leader) Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats didn't want to be under the same rules as the American people," Cruz said, before repeating: "I believe we should follow the text of the law."
Cruz's admission comes one day after CNN first reported that the senator would no longer have access to health benefits through his wife's employer, Goldman Sachs. Heidi Cruz, a managing director at the firm's Houston office, has gone on unpaid leave for the duration of the senator's presidential campaign and will not have access to the company's benefits during that time.
Cruz's campaign appeared caught by surprise Monday by questions about the senator's health care. Asked how Cruz's family would be covered after his wife lost her Goldman Sachs benefits, Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler repeatedly answered that he didn't know.
It's a deeply ironic development for the Texas conservative firebrand, who vaulted to fame during his few years in the Senate in large part by denouncing President Barack Obama's landmark health care law.
Cruz denied that there was anything ironic about the move, saying he was simply following the law.
"I believe we should follow the text of every law, even (a) law I disagree with," Cruz told CNN. "It's one of the real differences -- if you look at President Obama and the lawlessness, if he disagrees with a law he simply refuses to follow it or claims the authority to unilaterally change."
Cruz also said he will continue advocating for repealing the law.
"What is problematic about Obamacare is that it is killing millions of jobs in this country and has killed millions of jobs," Cruz said. "It has forced millions of people into part time work. It has caused millions of people to lose their insurance, to lose their doctors and to face skyrocketing insurance premiums. That is unacceptable."
Why can't he purchase health insurance privately if he opposes it so much?
"What is problematic about Obamacare is that it is killing millions of jobs in this country and has killed millions of jobs," Cruz said. "It has forced millions of people into part time work. It has caused millions of people to lose their insurance, to lose their doctors and to face skyrocketing insurance premiums. That is unacceptable."
Is any of these even true? Is there any evidence to support these claims? Any report at all that can directly link Obamacare to the loss millions of jobs, and skyrocketing insurance premiums for millions?
Why can't he purchase health insurance privately if he opposes it so much?
"What is problematic about Obamacare is that it is killing millions of jobs in this country and has killed millions of jobs," Cruz said. "It has forced millions of people into part time work. It has caused millions of people to lose their insurance, to lose their doctors and to face skyrocketing insurance premiums. That is unacceptable."
Is any of these even true? Is there any evidence to support these claims? Any report at all that can directly link Obamacare to the loss millions of jobs, and skyrocketing insurance premiums for millions?
It doesn't matter if true or not. His Tea Party loyalists will swallow what he says & regurgitate it. Facts don't matter. Ever seen half the garbage that gets e-mailed around that is just factually incorrect? Lots of this stuff circulated about things like health care coverage, college transcripts, birth certificates...you get the picture. Ever try to have a conversation with these types?
Why can't he purchase health insurance privately if he opposes it so much?
"What is problematic about Obamacare is that it is killing millions of jobs in this country and has killed millions of jobs," Cruz said. "It has forced millions of people into part time work. It has caused millions of people to lose their insurance, to lose their doctors and to face skyrocketing insurance premiums. That is unacceptable."
Is any of these even true? Is there any evidence to support these claims? Any report at all that can directly link Obamacare to the loss millions of jobs, and skyrocketing insurance premiums for millions?
It doesn't matter if true or not. His Tea Party loyalists will swallow what he says & regurgitate it. Facts don't matter.
Right. Never mind that one lie after another was told to get the bill passed. We won't talk about that, though. Like you said, facts don't matter.
Why can't he purchase health insurance privately if he opposes it so much?
"What is problematic about Obamacare is that it is killing millions of jobs in this country and has killed millions of jobs," Cruz said. "It has forced millions of people into part time work. It has caused millions of people to lose their insurance, to lose their doctors and to face skyrocketing insurance premiums. That is unacceptable."
Is any of these even true? Is there any evidence to support these claims? Any report at all that can directly link Obamacare to the loss millions of jobs, and skyrocketing insurance premiums for millions?
It doesn't matter if true or not. His Tea Party loyalists will swallow what he says & regurgitate it. Facts don't matter.
Right. Never mind that one lie after another was told to get the bill passed. We won't talk about that, though. Like you said, facts don't matter.
Get some new talking points. Everybody had a chance to read the bill. There were no surprises.
Please tee up another one.
Please tee up another one.
Why should he when you are so good at it??
Is any of these even true? Is there any evidence to support these claims? Any report at all that can directly link Obamacare to the loss millions of jobs, and skyrocketing insurance premiums for millions?
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It doesn't matter if true or not. His Tea Party loyalists will swallow what he says & regurgitate it. Facts don't matter. Ever seen half the garbage that gets e-mailed around that is just factually incorrect? Lots of this stuff circulated about things like health care coverage, college transcripts, birth certificates...you get the picture. Ever try to have a conversation with these types?
I sure have. Unfortunately my entire family and all of my inlaws are right-wing conservatives, and the lunacy never ceases to amaze me. Just on Sunday, a family member implied Obama supports the slaughtering of thousands of children because he's not doing enough to fight ISIS. Then he claimed the President of Jordan personally flew a fighter jet and took out thousands of ISIS fighters in retaliation for what they did to the 2 Jordanian pilots.....also implying that Obama is weak because he isn't flying in a fighter jet and dropping bombs too. It's always an adventure at the Boyton household.
It doesn't matter if true or not. His Tea Party loyalists will swallow what he says & regurgitate it. Facts don't matter.
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Right. Never mind that one lie after another was told to get the bill passed. We won't talk about that, though. Like you said, facts don't matter.
It's a little different. The way I see it, Obama's lies about ACA are just like Bush's lies about WMD's.....neither knew the truth. Neither understood what was going on and simply said what they were told to say, IMO. Don't forget, one of the biggest complaints about the ACA, with both liberals and conservatives, was that nobody understood anything about it, not even Obama. His poor rollout of ACA, between ignorance of the details, misinformation, and the failed website, will be the biggest mistake of his 8 years in office. Cruz's lies seem like a deliberate attempt to smear.
It doesn't matter if true or not. His Tea Party loyalists will swallow what he says & regurgitate it. Facts don't matter.
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Right. Never mind that one lie after another was told to get the bill passed. We won't talk about that, though. Like you said, facts don't matter.
It's a little different. The way I see it, Obama's lies about ACA are just like Bush's lies about WMD's.....neither knew the truth.
Really?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/10/28/affordable-care-act-cancellations/3293001/
Wait, now I remember. Obama found out when he saw the reports on the news. Sorry, I forgot.
http://www.vice.com/read/ted-cruz-wants-to-lead-an-evangelical-ghost-army-in-2016-324
Ted Cruz Wants to Lead an Evangelical Ghost Army in 2016
March 24, 2015
by Grace Wyler
Politics Editor
Someone had to be the first to jump into the 2016 presidential race, and it seems only fitting that that someone was US Senator Ted Cruz, leapfrogging over his likely opponents to launch his campaign early with a Jesus-soaked speech at the world's largest fundamentalist college. Cruz is a long shot for the GOP nomination, partly because he lacks experience, and mostly because no one likes him. But tucked into his speech Monday, in between stories about sin and redemption and abolishing the IRS, Cruz offered one reason he actually thinks he can win.
"Today, roughly half of born again Christians aren't voting. They're staying home," he told students, who were forced to attend the event or else face fines. "Imagine instead millions of people of faith all across America coming out to the polls and voting our values."...............................................................................................
Talking about Cruz winning is a waste of time. He is unelectable just on his opinions on social issues alone. He just can't win. Question is how much will he bloody up his own party in the primaries. This is where the Republicans always ef up and usually force the other candidates flip to the far right and Cruz will make sure of that again this time around. If Jeb follows through on his promise to be honest and not flip to the right on certain issues it will get real ugly between him and Cruz because Cruz will call him out to the far right who are the ones who inevitably make the call as far as who gets the nomination.
In my experience Cruz is all about Ted Cruz. I truly believe he will shoot himself in the foot more than once as the process moves forward and he undergoes the spotlight of a presidential campaign.
Cruz gets Obamacare.
ahhh, the irony. and hypocrisy.
isn't he the guy who spoke for 21 hours on the senate floor denouncing it and creating a filibuster of sorts?
oops, shoulda read LH's post.
my bad.
haven't had coffee yet... 
Why didn't he purchase private insurance? Isn't that what he proposed?
So let me see, Senators didn't have health insurance until obamacare was passed?
From Politico
Because of an amendment to the Affordable Care Act championed by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), members of Congress not covered by Medicare must receive their government-funded health care via exchanges like millions of other Americans who are not afforded insurance directly by their employers.
The Register quoted Cruz as saying that he supported Grassley’s amendment and that “Members of Congress should not be exempt” from Obamacare, while millions of other Americans are required to pay fines if they do not obtain insurance under the law.
Know the facts please
It's funny the hatred for this guy
As the New York times says
"Mr. Cruz has done nothing to endear himself to the elites"
Scary, what a whacko
