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BillyBlastoff
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Wow? Is that the best you got? Alloak you constantly accuse Hillary and Obama of lying. I posted evidence of Ben Carson lying because you said this:

"Better than that, he's composed of impeccable character and respectability."

You are really living in a bubble where you make up rules as you go along. You judge Democrats by a completely different set of rules than you use to judge Republicans.

Wow.


 
Posted : October 29, 2015 6:57 pm
gondicar
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Hey alloak - if "impeccable character" why is he minimizing his role with Mannatech?

I figured someone would try the nutritional supplement angle. Carson and a nutritional supplement company.

Wow.

So why is he lying about it?


 
Posted : October 30, 2015 5:29 am
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Carson cannot even do simple math, is a religious zealot, and quite possibly mentally ill. 😮 but that never stopped reagan. Smile

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This is coming from someone whose own psychiatrist refuses to release him from treatment.

Or is it the same as when the liberals called the Republicans racists because they disagree with Obama. Are you a racists pops?

Is there anything about race in my post? you are not much more than a lying, fat, troll, coward, with a fifth grade intellect.

[Edited on 10/30/2015 by pops42]

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And there was nothing about Obama's race in the Republicans criticism of his policy but the liberals called the Republicans racist anyway.
Following the liberals logic when you criticize Dr. Carson you are a racist.

Nothing? You sure about that? Because this was mailed at the end of the election cycle in 2008 in the newsletter of a local California GOP women’s organization.


 
Posted : October 30, 2015 5:34 am
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Carson cannot even do simple math, is a religious zealot, and quite possibly mentally ill. 😮 but that never stopped reagan. Smile

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This is coming from someone whose own psychiatrist refuses to release him from treatment.

Or is it the same as when the liberals called the Republicans racists because they disagree with Obama. Are you a racists pops?

Is there anything about race in my post? you are not much more than a lying, fat, troll, coward, with a fifth grade intellect.

[Edited on 10/30/2015 by pops42]

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And there was nothing about Obama's race in the Republicans criticism of his policy but the liberals called the Republicans racist anyway.
Following the liberals logic when you criticize Dr. Carson you are a racist.

Nothing? You sure about that? Because this was mailed at the end of the election cycle in 2008 in the newsletter of a local California GOP women’s organization.

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Only you and your liberal friends would call that racist due to your inability to discuss an issues on its merits.
With nothing in hand the left just starts screaming racism.

BTW - Obama is The Food Stamp President.


 
Posted : October 30, 2015 3:54 pm
BillyBlastoff
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Mule - That's about as racist as it gets.


 
Posted : October 30, 2015 4:26 pm
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Mule - That's about as racist as it gets.

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You have just demonstrated your limited and biased views.

[Edited on 10/31/2015 by Muleman1994]


 
Posted : October 30, 2015 4:42 pm
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Since this thread has veered toward Carson and his "integrity".


 
Posted : November 1, 2015 6:34 am
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Since this thread has veered toward Carson and his "integrity".

Billy,

But, but, but...how can this be? We've learned earlier in this thread via one of his loyal supporters that Carson is a man of "impeccable character". The facts must be wrong? The math must not add up. Possibly it's the same math used by the soft spoken one in his tax plan?


 
Posted : November 1, 2015 8:27 am
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Since this thread has veered toward Carson and his "integrity".

Billy,

But, but, but...how can this be? We've learned earlier in this thread via one of his loyal supporters that Carson is a man of "impeccable character". The facts must be wrong? The math must not add up. Possibly it's the same math used by the soft spoken one in his tax plan?

I wonder where Hillary rates. I'm guessing better than these two.


 
Posted : November 1, 2015 11:24 am
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Since this thread has veered toward Carson and his "integrity".

Billy,

But, but, but...how can this be? We've learned earlier in this thread via one of his loyal supporters that Carson is a man of "impeccable character". The facts must be wrong? The math must not add up. Possibly it's the same math used by the soft spoken one in his tax plan?

I wonder where Hillary rates. I'm guessing better than these two.

Here it is:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

Yeah, substantially better. But somehow Hillary is the big liar.


 
Posted : November 1, 2015 12:21 pm
alloak41
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Politifact non-partisan? LOL

Tell us another one.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 7:51 am
gondicar
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Politifact non-partisan? LOL

Tell us another one.

Shocked you would say this. Just shocked!! (not)


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 8:06 am
alloak41
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 8:30 am
gondicar
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.

Was only posted in reaction to your characterizations of Carson as somehow being above the fray. Well, nobody is buying that either. And your immediate reaction was to impugn the source. Typical.

Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

[Edited on 11/2/2015 by gondicar]


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 8:48 am
gondicar
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Politifact non-partisan? LOL

Tell us another one.

So I suppose you feel the same way about FactCheck.org as well?

A few examples from http://www.factcheck.org/person/ben-carson/

Carson Overlooks Russia’s Reserves
Ben Carson said the United States has more oil and natural gas than Russia. Not so.

Carson Rewrites Laws of Thermodynamics
Ben Carson claimed that prevailing theories of how the universe began and how planets and stars formed violate the second law of thermodynamics. His comments represent a misunderstanding of scientific concepts.

Carson on Border Apprehensions
Ben Carson said that “a lot” of the people captured crossing the U.S. border and then released are from Iraq, Somalia and Russia. He’s wrong.

Ben Carson on Nonprofit Failures
Ben Carson said “9 out of 10 nonprofits fail.” Yet data on nonprofits show that half of the organizations that received their tax-exempt status 20 years ago were still considered active by the IRS in 2015.

By the way, they have detailed factcheck pages on all the candidates, just in case you thought your man is being unfairly singled out. Here is Hilary's unflattering list is untruths http://www.factcheck.org/person/hillary-clinton/


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 10:23 am
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.

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democraticunderground.com

Sounds like an off-shoot on media matters.
Sadly there really are some liberals who believe it.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 12:59 pm
MartinD28
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.

Was only posted in reaction to your characterizations of Carson as somehow being above the fray. Well, nobody is buying that either. And your immediate reaction was to impugn the source. Typical.

Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

[Edited on 11/2/2015 by gondicar]

"Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson..."

Good luck on getting a response of detail or substance. You have a better chance of winning Powerball. The good doctor has been outed, and as time moves forward, his statements will continue to be dis-proven. He's no different than any of the seasoned politicians - just a bit more soft spoken with his inaccuracies.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 1:47 pm
gondicar
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.

_________________________________________________________________________

democraticunderground.com

Sounds like an off-shoot on media matters.
Sadly there really are some liberals who believe it.

Are you really that stupid? The graphic was made by democraticunderground.com, based on data from politifact which is at these two links that are publicly available to anyone:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

I'll ask you the same question I asked alloak, what specifically does politifact have wrong about Carson (and Trump for that matter)? Come on, try to debunk the actual content rather than the source for a change.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 1:51 pm
gondicar
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.

Was only posted in reaction to your characterizations of Carson as somehow being above the fray. Well, nobody is buying that either. And your immediate reaction was to impugn the source. Typical.

Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

[Edited on 11/2/2015 by gondicar]

"Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson..."

Good luck on getting a response of detail or substance. You have a better chance of winning Powerball. The good doctor has been outed, and as time moves forward, his statements will continue to be dis-proven. He's no different than any of the seasoned politicians - just a bit more soft spoken with his inaccuracies.

He didn't just start going off the reservation in 2016. He's made wildly inaccurate claims about, well, lots of stuff since long before he officially declared as a candidate, some of which has been debated here before. He may have been a good pediatric neurosurgeon, but when it comes to matters of state he is a lunatic, IMO.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 1:54 pm
MartinD28
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.

Was only posted in reaction to your characterizations of Carson as somehow being above the fray. Well, nobody is buying that either. And your immediate reaction was to impugn the source. Typical.

Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

[Edited on 11/2/2015 by gondicar]

"Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson..."

Good luck on getting a response of detail or substance. You have a better chance of winning Powerball. The good doctor has been outed, and as time moves forward, his statements will continue to be dis-proven. He's no different than any of the seasoned politicians - just a bit more soft spoken with his inaccuracies.

He didn't just start going off the reservation in 2016. He's made wildly inaccurate claims about, well, lots of stuff since long before he officially declared as a candidate, some of which has been debated here before. He may have been a good pediatric neurosurgeon, but when it comes to matters of state he is a lunatic, IMO.

Whether one likes Hillary or not, the idea of a one on one debate between Hillary & Carson would be well worth watching. She made the GOP Benghazi Prosecution team look like novices, and they were loaded up with notes and supporting detail. Her grasp of detail was exceptionally impressive as well as the ability to articulate and frame answers. She would have Carson for lunch. I'm thinking he's out of his league on a national stage. In a one on one debate he couldn't hide behind the other 9 on stage that he's being doing thus far...and not too well.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 2:48 pm
alloak41
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Whether one likes Hillary or not, the idea of a one on one debate between Hillary & Carson would be well worth watching. She made the GOP Benghazi Prosecution team look like novices, and they were loaded up with notes and supporting detail. Her grasp of detail was exceptionally impressive as well as the ability to articulate and frame answers. She would have Carson for lunch.

Is this fact or opinion?


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 3:09 pm
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A graphic like that goes up and the Liberals set themselves up as some kind of Crusaders for the Truth. Love that shet.

Nobody is buying it.

Was only posted in reaction to your characterizations of Carson as somehow being above the fray. Well, nobody is buying that either. And your immediate reaction was to impugn the source. Typical.

Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

[Edited on 11/2/2015 by gondicar]

"Feel free to tell us specifically where Politifact is wrong on Dr. Carson..."

Good luck on getting a response of detail or substance. You have a better chance of winning Powerball. The good doctor has been outed, and as time moves forward, his statements will continue to be dis-proven. He's no different than any of the seasoned politicians - just a bit more soft spoken with his inaccuracies.

He didn't just start going off the reservation in 2016. He's made wildly inaccurate claims about, well, lots of stuff since long before he officially declared as a candidate, some of which has been debated here before. He may have been a good pediatric neurosurgeon, but when it comes to matters of state he is a lunatic, IMO.

Whether one likes Hillary or not, the idea of a one on one debate between Hillary & Carson would be well worth watching. She made the GOP Benghazi Prosecution team look like novices, and they were loaded up with notes and supporting detail. Her grasp of detail was exceptionally impressive as well as the ability to articulate and frame answers. She would have Carson for lunch. I'm thinking he's out of his league on a national stage. In a one on one debate he couldn't hide behind the other 9 on stage that he's being doing thus far...and not too well.

I'm not a fan of Hilary but I completely agree with the above comment. I have always been impressed with her sharp and quick mind but had the feeling the past few years that she was not the Hilary of old.

Watching the farce that was the recent Republican waste of tax payer money for pure political gain circus made it clear to me that she is as sharp as ever. She can weave and dodge with facts and insightful well articulated thoughts even while you know she's not always truthful. In other words, a very good politician.

Carson on the other hand, is simply not very insightful or articulate and seems to make up crazy ideas he thinks will appeal to the rabid far right base. Sometimes it seems completely on the fly without any real thought. I honestly think he has no desire to be president and is simply trying to create a brand for himself that he can milk for money after the election.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 3:11 pm
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Whether one likes Hillary or not, the idea of a one on one debate between Hillary & Carson would be well worth watching. She made the GOP Benghazi Prosecution team look like novices, and they were loaded up with notes and supporting detail. Her grasp of detail was exceptionally impressive as well as the ability to articulate and frame answers. She would have Carson for lunch.

Is this fact or opinion?

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Pure opinion.

I" find it troubling that the Democrats asked no questions about why the Benghazi tragedy actually happened, why Obama, Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice flat-out lied about the video even after being warned not to do so and what were we doing in Benghazi in the first place.

Why don't the Democrats seem to even care?

A Hillary Clinton/Ben Carson debate would also greatly depend on the format and the moderators.

Ben Carson is far more intelligent and thoughtful but Hillary Clinton is a pure politician most known for lying. She is well trained in how to attack someone.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 5:19 pm
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Whether one likes Hillary or not, the idea of a one on one debate between Hillary & Carson would be well worth watching. She made the GOP Benghazi Prosecution team look like novices, and they were loaded up with notes and supporting detail. Her grasp of detail was exceptionally impressive as well as the ability to articulate and frame answers. She would have Carson for lunch.

Is this fact or opinion?

__________________________________________________________________________

Pure opinion.

I" find it troubling that the Democrats asked no questions about why the Benghazi tragedy actually happened, why Obama, Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice flat-out lied about the video even after being warned not to do so and what were we doing in Benghazi in the first place.

Why don't the Democrats seem to even care?

A Hillary Clinton/Ben Carson debate would also greatly depend on the format and the moderators.

Ben Carson is far more intelligent and thoughtful but Hillary Clinton is a pure politician most known for lying. She is well trained in how to attack someone.

I don't find it troubling that the Democrats wouldn't take part in a political witch hunt since this incident had already been investigated to death. I find it more troubling that the Republicans fought so hard not to release entire transcripts, so they could pick and choose what to release and release information out of context.


 
Posted : November 2, 2015 11:10 pm
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Confronted with Ben Carson's lies we get crickets from alloak and continued hysteria from Mule.

No matter the facts you guys are going to believe what you want to believe.

That's kinda scary. Your politics are warping your reality.


 
Posted : November 3, 2015 3:52 am
alloak41
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Confronted with Ben Carson's lies we get crickets from alloak and continued hysteria from Mule.

No matter the facts you guys are going to believe what you want to believe.

That's kinda scary. Your politics are warping your reality.

Please stop, you guys are killing me.

The Liberal Truth Squad rides in to the rescue!


 
Posted : November 3, 2015 6:27 am
gondicar
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Confronted with Ben Carson's lies we get crickets from alloak and continued hysteria from Mule.

No matter the facts you guys are going to believe what you want to believe.

That's kinda scary. Your politics are warping your reality.

Please stop, you guys are killing me.

The Liberal Truth Squad rides in to the rescue!

You have always been a hypocrite, nice to know that hasn't changed.


 
Posted : November 3, 2015 6:37 am
gondicar
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A Hillary Clinton/Ben Carson debate would also greatly depend on the format and the moderators.

That's crap. Format and moderators should make no difference to someone who wants to be President. Unless of course you are in North Korea or Russia or China or someplace else with state controlled media.

Ben Carson is far more intelligent and thoughtful but Hillary Clinton is a pure politician most known for lying.

Dr. Carson has shown that he is very capable as a lying politician. As a potential POTUS, not so much.

As for being "intelligent and thoughtful", here are a few things that might cause some other thoughtful and intelligent people to doubt that:

Carson Overlooks Russia’s Reserves
Ben Carson said the United States has more oil and natural gas than Russia. Not so.

Carson Rewrites Laws of Thermodynamics
Ben Carson claimed that prevailing theories of how the universe began and how planets and stars formed violate the second law of thermodynamics. His comments represent a misunderstanding of scientific concepts.

Carson on Border Apprehensions
Ben Carson said that “a lot” of the people captured crossing the U.S. border and then released are from Iraq, Somalia and Russia. He’s wrong.

Ben Carson on Nonprofit Failures
Ben Carson said “9 out of 10 nonprofits fail.” Yet data on nonprofits show that half of the organizations that received their tax-exempt status 20 years ago were still considered active by the IRS in 2015.

[Edited on 11/3/2015 by gondicar]


 
Posted : November 3, 2015 6:41 am
alloak41
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That's what I've always said. If one party had a lock on THE TRUTH it would be The Democrats!


 
Posted : November 3, 2015 6:47 am
gondicar
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That's what I've always said. If one party had a lock on THE TRUTH it would be The Democrats!

Like I said, you've always been a hypocrite.


 
Posted : November 3, 2015 6:52 am
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