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LeglizHemp
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it's going to be a bumpy ride.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 6:10 am
fanfrom-71
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I'll be busy watching the grass grow. Which luckily...is a very slow process this time of year! Grin


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 6:29 am
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Being that politics has become little more than banter similar to two opposing sports team fanbases, I'll just catch the highlights.

The world is now all SportsCenter. 😛


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 6:37 am
LeglizHemp
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LOL, true


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 7:02 am
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This thing will not cost Hillary a single vote. Her supporters are steadfast. There's probably nothing short of human-sacrificing a baby that will rock her support. But if she is guilty of neglecting her duty or refusing requests for safety by embassy staff - she should pay appropriately. This should be determined in a court - not in the press or social media. Just sayin'.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 7:27 am
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How about an investigation in to THE 9/11 ATTACK THAT HAPPENED ON US SOIL AND KILLED 3,900 AMERICANS AND COUNTING????

You hear all the time about disrespecting and being insensitive to the victims of 9/11, well I can't think of a bigger SLAP IN THE FACE than having 8 and counting Benghazi hearings and only 1 for 9/11/01 and even then only after resistance from the White House and Congress which finally caved to the victims' families.

This whole thing is f*(ng sickening. It's the most grotesque and shameful political theater of my lifetime which is saying a lot.

This isn't a partisan accessment. F&*( Hilary Clinton. She's a corrupt, sociopathic entitled B*tch who should be in jail with a host of others on both sides.

None of the people involved with this thing should EVER say one word on respecting the victims of 9/11 because I can't think of a bigger spit in the face to those poor folks than resisting and hindering an investigation in to 9/11 while professing respect and yet dragging Benghazi out through 8 of these charades.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 7:41 am
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it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Nah, we've already had 7 of these before. If the Republicans can't pin anything on Hillary this time, I'm sure they will try to have yet yet another one before the election. Benghazi is like crack for congressional Republicans.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 8:33 am
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How about an investigation in to THE 9/11 ATTACK THAT HAPPENED ON US SOIL AND KILLED 3,900 AMERICANS AND COUNTING????

You hear all the time about disrespecting and being insensitive to the victims of 9/11, well I can't think of a bigger SLAP IN THE FACE than having 8 and counting Benghazi hearings and only 1 for 9/11/01 and even then only after resistance from the White House and Congress which finally caved to the victims' families.

This whole thing is f*(ng sickening. It's the most grotesque and shameful political theater of my lifetime which is saying a lot.

This isn't a partisan accessment. F&*( Hilary Clinton. She's a corrupt, sociopathic entitled B*tch who should be in jail with a host of others on both sides.

None of the people involved with this thing should EVER say one word on respecting the victims of 9/11 because I can't think of a bigger spit in the face to those poor folks than resisting and hindering an investigation in to 9/11 while professing respect and yet dragging Benghazi out through 8 of these charades.

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You seem to have forgotten the 17 Senate and 35 House Congressional hearings into 9/11. Informed people know well that 9/11 happened because of the gross intelligence failures of the Clinton administration and that administrations preference of politics over national security. Why do you think Bill Clinton sent his National Security Advisor Sandy Berger to the National Archives to steal documents relating to Al Qaeda generated in 1999?

Until this committee, the previous committees were not able to get the answers to the salient questions on the tragedy of Benghazi: why did it happen. The White House, The State Department and Hillary Clinton slow walked and blocked documents, refused to testify and never disclosed that Hillary Clinton was doing State Department business, including classified, compartmentalized documents on her private email via her own, un-secure server. This is the first committee that has subpoena power.

If you are so concerned about “victims”, does it not disgust you the Hillary Clinton and Obama, standing next to the coffins of the four murdered Americans (aka: victims) and lied to the American People that they died because of some obscure internet video?

The truth is no charade.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 8:39 am
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Round one was pretty boring, nothing new came up or was asked. Round two looks to be a little more contentious, but it's doubtful there will be anything new. we'll see.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 9:23 am
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Fair point about congressional hearings. There were a lot of congressional hearings on 9/11.

However there were only 2 Investigations in to 9/11 and there have been 8 into Benghazi.

What the f&*( is a hearing anyway? It is clearly different than an investigation. I honestly don't remember anyone being held accountable at a hearing just as I don't see any of the 9/11 OR Benghazi investigations holding anyone accountable either (maybe the Benghazi investigations will but my chips are betting against it.)

Mule, you are missing my point. Clearly Hillary and the Obama administration did something ver shady and, I am sure, completely immoral and illegal. I hope they both go to jail.

My point is, where the Hell was all this need to investigate, get to the truth and hold people accountable during 9/11??? Not ONE top official was held accountable for 9/11. Not ONE! The fact that Benghazi happened on 9/11 as well and has 8 investigations while 9/11/01 has just 2 and then only after the victims' families forced the issue just rubs it in your face: NONE of these f*ckers want accountability for 9/11/01. Therefore, I don't want to hear ANY of these people say ONE WORD about "respect for the victims and families of 9/11" but clearly it isn't sincere.

They want truth and justice for Benghazi? Good! Have at it! Hillary and Obama clearly did some very shady illegal sh*t and I'd be more than happy to see justice served. But if you do that, you can't have all this concern and diligence for Benghazi without going back and investigating 9/11/01 and serving some justice and accountability there. It's transparently disgusting.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 9:27 am
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NONE of these f*ckers want accountability for 9/11/01. Therefore, I don't want to hear ANY of these people say ONE WORD about "respect for the victims and families of 9/11" but clearly it isn't sincere.

They want truth and justice for Benghazi? Good! Have at it! Hillary and Obama clearly did some very shady illegal sh*t and I'd be more than happy to see justice served. But if you do that, you can't have all this concern and diligence for Benghazi without going back and investigating 9/11/01 and serving some justice and accountability there. It's transparently disgusting.

Apparently, examinations into 9/11/01 are about, oh, 28 pages short.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 9:46 am
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Round one was pretty boring, nothing new came up or was asked. Round two looks to be a little more contentious, but it's doubtful there will be anything new. we'll see.

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Well so far today we have learned that the Hillary/Obama line of blaming the Benghazi tragedy on an obscure internet video was a flat-out lie. Hillary and Obama lied to the American People and the families of the murdered Americans.

Her emails to her family and others within hours of the attack blamed an “Al Qaeda-like” terrorist group.

We have also witnessed that while The Republicans have been accused of using this committee to politically attack Hillary Clinton it is The Democrats on the committee that are making all the political comments in an effort to protect Hillary Clinton.

The Democrats on the committee have yet to ask any questions which are the purpose of this committee: why did this happen.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 9:47 am
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So far... Hillary has not been asked what the meaning of the word is... is.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 9:51 am
LeglizHemp
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Round one was pretty boring, nothing new came up or was asked. Round two looks to be a little more contentious, but it's doubtful there will be anything new. we'll see.

___________________________________________________________________________

Well so far today we have learned that the Hillary/Obama line of blaming the Benghazi tragedy on an obscure internet video was a flat-out lie. Hillary and Obama lied to the American People and the families of the murdered Americans.

Her emails to her family and others within hours of the attack blamed an “Al Qaeda-like” terrorist group.

We have also witnessed that while The Republicans have been accused of using this committee to politically attack Hillary Clinton it is The Democrats on the committee that are making all the political comments in an effort to protect Hillary Clinton.

The Democrats on the committee have yet to ask any questions which are the purpose of this committee: why did this happen.

ok well IF it was proven today it was a "flat out lie" then I guess we can expect at least perjury charges for that. who would be in charge of bringing those charges? this committee?

I don't dispute your assessment of the Dem's on the panel.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 9:57 am
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Round one was pretty boring, nothing new came up or was asked. Round two looks to be a little more contentious, but it's doubtful there will be anything new. we'll see.

___________________________________________________________________________

Well so far today we have learned that the Hillary/Obama line of blaming the Benghazi tragedy on an obscure internet video was a flat-out lie. Hillary and Obama lied to the American People and the families of the murdered Americans.

Her emails to her family and others within hours of the attack blamed an “Al Qaeda-like” terrorist group.

We have also witnessed that while The Republicans have been accused of using this committee to politically attack Hillary Clinton it is The Democrats on the committee that are making all the political comments in an effort to protect Hillary Clinton.

The Democrats on the committee have yet to ask any questions which are the purpose of this committee: why did this happen.

ok well IF it was proven today it was a "flat out lie" then I guess we can expect at least perjury charges for that. who would be in charge of bringing those charges? this committee?

I don't dispute your assessment of the Dem's on the panel.

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If a “perjury charge” could be brought it would have to be done by a referral by Congress to The Justice Department who would just ignore it. Obama will not allow it to happen.

Where Hillary does have a criminal problem is the FBI criminal investigation into her emails as referred by Inspector Generals of The State Department and The National Intelligence Services. Not a Republican in sight.

Act 1 is done, Act 2 about to begin.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 10:15 am
LeglizHemp
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Where Hillary does have a criminal problem is the FBI criminal investigation into her emails as referred by Inspector Generals of The State Department and The National Intelligence Services. Not a Republican in sight.

but wouldn't the same problem exist?

" The Justice Department who would just ignore it. Obama will not allow it to happen."


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 10:30 am
Muleman1994
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Where Hillary does have a criminal problem is the FBI criminal investigation into her emails as referred by Inspector Generals of The State Department and The National Intelligence Services. Not a Republican in sight.

but wouldn't the same problem exist?

" The Justice Department who would just ignore it. Obama will not allow it to happen."

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Maybe but even Obama would have a problem then because he could not blame it on "Congress".

I'm still thinking Hillary will go for a plea bargain deal or a pardon.

The FBI does have a time problem. Nobody wants Hillary perp-walked during a presidential campaign.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 11:08 am
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I still do not believe it is a forgone conclusion that the FBI will find anything criminal. Are you ok if that happens?


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 11:13 am
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I still do not believe it is a forgone conclusion that the FBI will find anything criminal. Are you ok if that happens?

Is he ok???

Do you read his posts? Grin


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 11:36 am
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we are having a respectful conversation.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 11:49 am
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Very well than.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 11:56 am
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She don't look worried.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 11:59 am
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I don't get how the Democrats can be blamed for making this political. If the investigation was a partisan political attack, then identifying the investigation for what it is, is not politicalization.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 12:02 pm
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She don't look worried.

She looks hot!


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 12:30 pm
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I don't get how the Democrats can be blamed for making this political. If the investigation was a partisan political attack, then identifying the investigation for what it is, is not politicalization.

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Apparently you are not watching the testimony.

Trey Gowdy clearly stated the purpose of this investigation when this committee was formed and in his opening statement today.

Then today immediately following the chairman’s opening statement Elijah Cummings, the ranking minority member went completely political as did the other Democrats on the committee.

The Republicans are after the truth about why the Benghazi tragedy happened. The Democrats are playing politics to try and protect Hillary Clinton and by extension Obama.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 1:48 pm
LeglizHemp
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I don't get how the Democrats can be blamed for making this political. If the investigation was a partisan political attack, then identifying the investigation for what it is, is not politicalization.

_________________________________________________________________

Apparently you are not watching the testimony.

Trey Gowdy clearly stated the purpose of this investigation when this committee was formed and in his opening statement today.

Then today immediately following the chairman’s opening statement Elijah Cummings, the ranking minority member went completely political as did the other Democrats on the committee.

The Republicans are after the truth about why the Benghazi tragedy happened. The Democrats are playing politics to try and protect Hillary Clinton and by extension Obama.

i have to agree with you muleman that the Dem's have not asked any questions related to Benghazi. yes they have been there to help Mrs. Clinton. but i don't think there have been to many questions from the GOP that really relate to anything new, or about how we can be better at stopping something from happening like this again.

i think you can agree, i think, that alot of this has been opinions of old testimony and trying to create sound bytes by everyone on the panel.

questions can be asked and answered. the panels job is to make conclusions and recommendations (as you told me earlier). in the end i guess the justice department will decide what to do and in your opinion President Obama will squash any bad decisions made by them.

if that is what we are facing do you have any suggestions on how we should move forward? is there a way that, as a country, we can reconcile this?


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 2:02 pm
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I don't get how the Democrats can be blamed for making this political. If the investigation was a partisan political attack, then identifying the investigation for what it is, is not politicalization.

_________________________________________________________________

Apparently you are not watching the testimony.

Trey Gowdy clearly stated the purpose of this investigation when this committee was formed and in his opening statement today.

Then today immediately following the chairman’s opening statement Elijah Cummings, the ranking minority member went completely political as did the other Democrats on the committee.

The Republicans are after the truth about why the Benghazi tragedy happened. The Democrats are playing politics to try and protect Hillary Clinton and by extension Obama.

i have to agree with you muleman that the Dem's have not asked any questions related to Benghazi. yes they have been there to help Mrs. Clinton. but i don't think there have been to many questions from the GOP that really relate to anything new, or about how we can be better at stopping something from happening like this again.

i think you can agree, i think, that alot of this has been opinions of old testimony and trying to create sound bytes by everyone on the panel.

questions can be asked and answered. the panels job is to make conclusions and recommendations (as you told me earlier). in the end i guess the justice department will decide what to do and in your opinion President Obama will squash any bad decisions made by them.

if that is what we are facing do you have any suggestions on how we should move forward? is there a way that, as a country, we can reconcile this?

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Be very careful for whom you vote.

It would be also very helpful to the country to find a way to make the Justice Department independent of politics.
Yea, right.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 2:10 pm
LeglizHemp
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I don't get how the Democrats can be blamed for making this political. If the investigation was a partisan political attack, then identifying the investigation for what it is, is not politicalization.

_________________________________________________________________

Apparently you are not watching the testimony.

Trey Gowdy clearly stated the purpose of this investigation when this committee was formed and in his opening statement today.

Then today immediately following the chairman’s opening statement Elijah Cummings, the ranking minority member went completely political as did the other Democrats on the committee.

The Republicans are after the truth about why the Benghazi tragedy happened. The Democrats are playing politics to try and protect Hillary Clinton and by extension Obama.

i have to agree with you muleman that the Dem's have not asked any questions related to Benghazi. yes they have been there to help Mrs. Clinton. but i don't think there have been to many questions from the GOP that really relate to anything new, or about how we can be better at stopping something from happening like this again.

i think you can agree, i think, that alot of this has been opinions of old testimony and trying to create sound bytes by everyone on the panel.

questions can be asked and answered. the panels job is to make conclusions and recommendations (as you told me earlier). in the end i guess the justice department will decide what to do and in your opinion President Obama will squash any bad decisions made by them.

if that is what we are facing do you have any suggestions on how we should move forward? is there a way that, as a country, we can reconcile this?

_________________________________________________________________________

Be very careful for whom you vote.

It would be also very helpful to the country to find a way to make the Justice Department independent of politics.
Yea, right.

that is an honest answer.
thank you.
i also have no answers on how to truly reform government. it is a long slow hard process. hopefully both sides can go about it in a respectful way. it would be a shame to see what could happen if we can't.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 2:20 pm
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ok i think i heard the 1st thing i didn't like about Hillary's answers....she just mentioned Terry Jones (the koran burner in florida) and said "unfortunately he had a mind of his own" after Gates asked him to not do what he was doing because it put people overseas at risk. I think that was a bad choice of words.


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 2:53 pm
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The empty seats are of those who were murdered by the Islamic Extremist Terrorists and that of another fact that has gone missing:


 
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