And if Obama didn't say anything, he would be vilified for not caring or not speaking out.......
You mean the way he didn't speak out when an illegal immigrant blew away a totally innocent woman in San Francisco? What drives us nuts is the way he ONLY speaks out when it furthers his ideology.
Can anyone answer why you would oppose a mandatory classroom training course, exam, and physical demonstration on safety and accuracy in order to get a gun license?
I don't oppose those things but they will not stop the vast majority of spree killings.
No one is going to go take anyone's guns away.
No one is going to have someone take their guns from them.
The populace has quietly accepted death by gun massacre as an acceptable risk in our society.
That's it.
I sadly concur
Currently, a five month old baby is killed in a Cleveland drive-by shooting
An 11 year in Tennessee gets ahold of a gun, and shoots dead an 8 year old because she wouldn't let him see her puppyAll the laws, all the talk, all the moral pontificating in the world won't put a stop to gun violence -- never has, never will
Do you think that baby was shot by a legal gun? Of course not. The laws exist. The will to enforce them doesn't. How about making carrying an illegal gun a felony subject to life imprisonment without parole? That would make a lot of thugs think twice about carrying. But then bleeding hearts would later demand their release.
What makes you think that it was an illegal gun? With legal guns so easy to get, I'd say 90% of crimes are committed with legal guns. And I'd fully support making carrying an illegal gun a felony subject to life in prison without parole. Of course, some murderers only get 7 years in prison, so I would support any firearm related crime requiring a very, very long prison term.
I support human life at all stages from conception through natural death where as liberals have no problem with pulling a live fetus out of the womb and keeping the baby alive so that the brain can be harvested and sold for profit.
Let's keep the second amendment out of this and just focus on belief in the right to life. On a moral level you say you believe generally in a total right to life. Your position on abortion is very clear. There are though other areas where you as part of the right support policies that can negatively impact on a person's life chances. The right on the whole does not usually support policies that would assist the poor and ensure that they have the right to life. As long as you support these kinds of policies can you actually be totally pro-life? Guns as well are instruments that take life. Wouldn't the country and the world be a safer place if everyone, everywhere just put down their weapons and respected the right to life?
There is a serious problem in the US with illegal guns. But the last 4 or 5 mass shootings were carried out by shooters who used legal guns. Do you not believe that people should voluntarily give up their guns to help fight this epidemic of mass murder?
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“The right on the whole does not usually support policies that would assist the poor and ensure that they have the right to life.”
Wrong.
Republicans support good, well paying jobs for all people. Democrats support enslaving the poor to government handouts from cradle to grave. The Democrats measure success by the number of people dependant on government.
You always seem to be able to find excuses to justify your own amoral opinions. Do you have any opinions independent of party dogma?
Do you not on a moral or spiritual level feel any empathy for the poor and downtrodden? Should we not try to help them in some organized way?
“But the last 4 or 5 mass shootings were carried out by shooters who used legal guns”
Republicans want Obama to actually do what he said he would do; fix the mental health system. To date Obama has done nothing.
Outside of spending more money how do you fix the mental health system? If the goal is to ensure people with mental health problems do not get guns why not have a single payer health system that would ensure everyone had access to mental health care? This would give health professionals more of a chance to identify future mass murderers.
“Do you not believe that people should voluntarily give up their guns to help fight this epidemic of mass murder?”
That would not stop the criminals from getting guns and killing people. How would your idea stop the mass-murder in the American cities by the drug industry's gangs?
The people who are involved in these mass murders are not criminals and not members of gangs. The mass murderers without records and identified mental problems are hard to pick out from other good citizens who carry weapons. Simply taking guns away from criminals and gang members would not solve the mass murder problem. Would you participate in a program which included an attempt to confiscate illegal guns as well as a program where good citizens turn in their guns? There could be a gun bank where good citizens keep their guns and take them out to hunt.
If we keep resorting to political dogma we will never find a solution to the mass murder problem. You agree?
No one is going to go take anyone's guns away.
No one is going to have someone take their guns from them.
The populace has quietly accepted death by gun massacre as an acceptable risk in our society.
That's it.
I sadly concur
Currently, a five month old baby is killed in a Cleveland drive-by shooting
An 11 year in Tennessee gets ahold of a gun, and shoots dead an 8 year old because she wouldn't let him see her puppyAll the laws, all the talk, all the moral pontificating in the world won't put a stop to gun violence -- never has, never will
Do you think that baby was shot by a legal gun? Of course not. The laws exist. The will to enforce them doesn't. How about making carrying an illegal gun a felony subject to life imprisonment without parole? That would make a lot of thugs think twice about carrying. But then bleeding hearts would later demand their release.
What makes you think that it was an illegal gun? With legal guns so easy to get, I'd say 90% of crimes are committed with legal guns. And I'd fully support making carrying an illegal gun a felony subject to life in prison without parole. Of course, some murderers only get 7 years in prison, so I would support any firearm related crime requiring a very, very long prison term.
I would say your statistics are completely wrong, particularly in a city like Cleveland Ohio. I would be quite a lot that the gun used by the gang banger was totally illegal. Where did you get that 90 percent figure from just make it up?
No one is going to go take anyone's guns away.
No one is going to have someone take their guns from them.
The populace has quietly accepted death by gun massacre as an acceptable risk in our society.
That's it.
I sadly concur
Currently, a five month old baby is killed in a Cleveland drive-by shooting
An 11 year in Tennessee gets ahold of a gun, and shoots dead an 8 year old because she wouldn't let him see her puppyAll the laws, all the talk, all the moral pontificating in the world won't put a stop to gun violence -- never has, never will
Do you think that baby was shot by a legal gun? Of course not. The laws exist. The will to enforce them doesn't. How about making carrying an illegal gun a felony subject to life imprisonment without parole? That would make a lot of thugs think twice about carrying. But then bleeding hearts would later demand their release.
As you know, I live in Kansas. At no level of government (unless one would want to count the President, I guess) am I represented by anyone but a Republican. City, County, State, Federal, every single elected official in every single applicable district is a Republican.
We also have a Republican Governor. Earlier this year, he signed a no-permit concealed carry action into law. No training, no permit, no problem. Anyone of legal age can carry a gun.
Lob all the softball snide remarks about bleeding hearts and liberals all you want. The fact of the matter is, there's more guns in more hands of more people than ever, and Republicans have been more than happy to facilitate that.
Since his goal is to gin up anger rather than actually solve the problems of which he complains this works for him.
Ah, yes. So what exactly is the problem? One one hand, if he furthered any gun control actions, you'd rip him for stepping on the Constitution.
After FOURTEEN mass killings that he has had to address, Obama has done NOTHING on gun control. NOTHING. NO legislation. NO Executive Orders. There's MORE guns than ever in America. THERE'S MORE GUNS THAN PEOPLE.
Heavy enforcement and draconian penalties for carrying illegally HAVE reduced gun violence extraordinarily particularly in New York where I have seen it happen and I see it shifting back with a new mayor and a laxer enforcement policy. This is what drives me crazy. People like Obama oppose the very things that work and save lives while pontificating in ways designed to make their base salivate and do zilch to help the problem. I'm sorry but that's how I feel. And I favor gun control and licensing and all other kinds of requirements
Oh, is that what drives you crazy? What exactly does Obama oppose? I asked you to specifically point out where he "attacked his opponents" in his remarks and you ignored it.
"People like Obama." I thought you hated broad-brushing?
Again, the goal of Republicans is to get as many guns as possible into the hands of as many people as possible. Does that drive you crazy too? Or do you even care?
This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
Exactly! How many people live in your gun? How many kids do you take to school in your gun? Guns are made for killing. And if one is not afraid of being shot, why would one need a gun?
Having known many gun owners they all speak with a brave voice that is drenched in fear of everything....the unknown.....the boogie man waiting for them.....the secret intruder....It's the only reason they own a gun.....fear
Exactly! How many lives do you sustain with your gun? Oh, wait..........
Please stop talking common sense it confuses those who use wild exaggerations to try to prove a point
Like nobody would die in car accidents if there were no cars?
Sorry friend that is a such a sorry comparison since no one drives their car into a college/school and runs people down....there's difference between accidents and murder....
Stephen King wrote a whole book about a spree killer called Mr. Mercedes who does exactly that.
Oh, well, if someone wrote a work of fiction about it, that settles that!
No one is going to go take anyone's guns away.
No one is going to have someone take their guns from them.
The populace has quietly accepted death by gun massacre as an acceptable risk in our society.
That's it.
I sadly concur
Currently, a five month old baby is killed in a Cleveland drive-by shooting
An 11 year in Tennessee gets ahold of a gun, and shoots dead an 8 year old because she wouldn't let him see her puppyAll the laws, all the talk, all the moral pontificating in the world won't put a stop to gun violence -- never has, never will
Do you think that baby was shot by a legal gun? Of course not. The laws exist. The will to enforce them doesn't. How about making carrying an illegal gun a felony subject to life imprisonment without parole? That would make a lot of thugs think twice about carrying. But then bleeding hearts would later demand their release.
As you know, I live in Kansas. At no level of government (unless one would want to count the President, I guess) am I represented by anyone but a Republican. City, County, State, Federal, every single elected official in every single applicable district is a Republican.
We also have a Republican Governor. Earlier this year, he signed a no-permit concealed carry action into law. No training, no permit, no problem. Anyone of legal age can carry a gun.
Lob all the softball snide remarks about bleeding hearts and liberals all you want. The fact of the matter is, there's more guns in more hands of more people than ever, and Republicans have been more than happy to facilitate that.
Since his goal is to gin up anger rather than actually solve the problems of which he complains this works for him.
Ah, yes. So what exactly is the problem? One one hand, if he furthered any gun control actions, you'd rip him for stepping on the Constitution.
After FOURTEEN mass killings that he has had to address, Obama has done NOTHING on gun control. NOTHING. NO legislation. NO Executive Orders. There's MORE guns than ever in America. THERE'S MORE GUNS THAN PEOPLE.
Heavy enforcement and draconian penalties for carrying illegally HAVE reduced gun violence extraordinarily particularly in New York where I have seen it happen and I see it shifting back with a new mayor and a laxer enforcement policy. This is what drives me crazy. People like Obama oppose the very things that work and save lives while pontificating in ways designed to make their base salivate and do zilch to help the problem. I'm sorry but that's how I feel. And I favor gun control and licensing and all other kinds of requirements
Oh, is that what drives you crazy? What exactly does Obama oppose? I asked you to specifically point out where he "attacked his opponents" in his remarks and you ignored it.
"People like Obama." I thought you hated broad-brushing?
Again, the goal of Republicans is to get as many guns as possible into the hands of as many people as possible. Does that drive you crazy too? Or do you even care?
Are you seriously arguing that Obama is not a supporter of the policing policies of Rahm Emanuel and Bill DiBlasio? Please give me a break already.
You are right he does nothing. Because his purpose is not to solve problems but to enrage his base.
As far as I can see conservatives and moderates want to enforce existing gun laws and use police actions to keep guns off the streets. I see the left here in my home city opposing it. Do conservatives in your area oppose such things?
Are you seriously arguing that Obama is not a supporter of the policing policies of Rahm Emanuel and Bill DiBlasio? Please give me a break already.
What exactly are those policing policies?
You are right he does nothing. Because his purpose is not to solve problems but to enrage his base.
There's nothing he could do to please you. Nothing. He could cure cancer and you would rail against his violating the Constitutional rights of the cells to mutate.
As far as I can see conservatives and moderates want to enforce existing gun laws and use police actions to keep guns off the streets. I see the left here in my home city opposing it. Do conservatives in your area oppose such things?
The conservatives in my area, which I've already stated and you have already ignored, wish to place as many guns as possible into the hands of as many people as possible. Are you good with that or not?
There's nothing he could do to please you. Nothing. He could cure cancer and you would rail against his violating the Constitutional rights of the cells to mutate.
HA HA HA!!! Quote of the day. 
This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
A bit overwhelming of a fact.......Once you own a gun for protection you've made a decision that you are willing to take a life.
Does every legal gun owners have the same level of restraint to know when that line has been crossed for them to go ahead and decide taking a life is the thing to do????
I would tend to think that after you've made terms with that fact the next step is a little easier....if you're seriously mentally imbalanced that makes the likelihood even more a possibility
Conflict resolution is the root problem to mass shootings. It seems there is a whole generation of people that don't know how to resolve conflict without violence.
At one time most carried guns. Why at some point did we collective as a society decide that no longer worked and why, if the experiment has already played out, would we want to return to that way of life??
Are you seriously arguing that Obama is not a supporter of the policing policies of Rahm Emanuel and Bill DiBlasio? Please give me a break already.
What exactly are those policing policies?
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Well for one thing the creation of the street crime unit and its employment where the ACTUAL GUNS ARE rather than worrying about offending certain minority groups.
______________________________________You are right he does nothing. Because his purpose is not to solve problems but to enrage his base.
There's nothing he could do to please you. Nothing. He could cure cancer and you would rail against his violating the Constitutional rights of the cells to mutate.
_________________________________________Total bs. You have absolutely no basis for saying that. I have my reasons for opposing him. H's a complete charatan. If he cured cancer I would obviously applaud it. More likely though his policies would hold up or prevent that cure by hamstringing and shaming the private companies that develop the drugs and technology to effect cures while his health care policies create disincentive for the best and brightest to even become doctors.
__________________________________________As far as I can see conservatives and moderates want to enforce existing gun laws and use police actions to keep guns off the streets. I see the left here in my home city opposing it. Do conservatives in your area oppose such things?
The conservatives in my area, which I've already stated and you have already ignored, wish to place as many guns as possible into the hands of as many people as possible. Are you good with that or not?
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Of course I am not good with that. So you are saying that the conservatives in your area street criminals to have guns and and oppose police efforts to prevent that. I find that difficult to believe but if true naturally I oppose it. I have stated numerous times how I support robust efforts to get illegal guns off the streets. The main method is to stop people who there is a reasonable suspicion might have such weapons.
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
You just prove the point. Mass shootings are usually legally obtained weapons and few if any would be halted by any additional gun laws. On the other hand OVERALL gun crime of which spree shootings are a minimal amount are largely committed with illegally obtained weapons. Confiscate the illegal weapons as NY did succesfully for two decades and you will virtually eliminate gun crime, particularly in the cities.
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
A bit overwhelming of a fact.......Once you own a gun for protection you've made a decision that you are willing to take a life.
Does every legal gun owners have the same level of restraint to know when that line has been crossed for them to go ahead and decide taking a life is the thing to do????
I would tend to think that after you've made terms with that fact the next step is a little easier....if you're seriously mentally imbalanced that makes the likelihood even more a possibility
Conflict resolution is the root problem to mass shootings. It seems there is a whole generation of people that don't know how to resolve conflict without violence.
At one time most carried guns. Why at some point did we collective as a society decide that no longer worked and why, if the experiment has already played out, would we want to return to that way of life??
Mental illness is almost entirely the cause of mass shootings not conflict resolution.
Dougrhon is on a good logical track.
The rest posting here offer not one idea that would actually curtail gun violence. They must be following Obama’s method: call for gun control legislation but never offer any ideas or legislation.
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Can anyone answer why you would oppose a mandatory classroom training course, exam, and physical demonstration on safety and accuracy in order to get a gun license?_______________________________________________
I don't oppose those things but they will not stop the vast majority of spree killings.
Agreed. But since it would probably prevent some accidental deaths at the very least, nobody should oppose such measures. Conservative Republicans have a pretty big perception problem when they indicate they won't even entertain the idea.
All it would take is for one of these candidates to say, "Nobody will ever take our guns away, but we will make sure the wrong people don't tarnish our 2nd amendment right". I think the leading Republican candidate would beat the Democratic nominee if they went that route. It would show a willingness to listen and compromise, plus take action...something Obama failed to do. You can't ask for a better opportunity in this race. I don't feel good believing that they will fail to take advantage.
The rest posting here offer not one idea that would actually curtail gun violence. They must be following Obama’s method: call for gun control legislation but never offer any ideas or legislation.
C'mon, man. Even the most gullible posters here won't fall for that one.
The rest posting here offer not one idea that would actually curtail gun violence. They must be following Obama’s method: call for gun control legislation but never offer any ideas or legislation.
C'mon, man. Even the most gullible posters here won't fall for that one.
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Okay.
Where are your suggestions that would actually curtail gun violence?
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
A bit overwhelming of a fact.......Once you own a gun for protection you've made a decision that you are willing to take a life.
Does every legal gun owners have the same level of restraint to know when that line has been crossed for them to go ahead and decide taking a life is the thing to do????
I would tend to think that after you've made terms with that fact the next step is a little easier....if you're seriously mentally imbalanced that makes the likelihood even more a possibility
Conflict resolution is the root problem to mass shootings. It seems there is a whole generation of people that don't know how to resolve conflict without violence.
At one time most carried guns. Why at some point did we collective as a society decide that no longer worked and why, if the experiment has already played out, would we want to return to that way of life??
Mental illness is almost entirely the cause of mass shootings not conflict resolution.
That's what conservatives keep saying, yet they always are apposed to enhanced background checks that would check for such things.
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
A bit overwhelming of a fact.......Once you own a gun for protection you've made a decision that you are willing to take a life.
Does every legal gun owners have the same level of restraint to know when that line has been crossed for them to go ahead and decide taking a life is the thing to do????
I would tend to think that after you've made terms with that fact the next step is a little easier....if you're seriously mentally imbalanced that makes the likelihood even more a possibility
Conflict resolution is the root problem to mass shootings. It seems there is a whole generation of people that don't know how to resolve conflict without violence.
At one time most carried guns. Why at some point did we collective as a society decide that no longer worked and why, if the experiment has already played out, would we want to return to that way of life??
Mental illness is almost entirely the cause of mass shootings not conflict resolution.
That's what conservatives keep saying, yet they always are apposed to enhanced background checks that would check for such things.
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The word is spelled opposed.
The rest of your post is bullsh*t.
Republicans, as does The NRA, want tight, deep and through background checks that include a tie-in to mental heath records. They also want the federal government to stop failing in the background checks system.
Unfortunately every time The Republicans try to get the legislation passed the left starts screaming discrimination and all their other rhetoric to ensure the legislation never passes.
So, where is your idea or proposal to curtail gun violence?
[Edited on 10/9/2015 by Muleman1994]
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
A bit overwhelming of a fact.......Once you own a gun for protection you've made a decision that you are willing to take a life.
Does every legal gun owners have the same level of restraint to know when that line has been crossed for them to go ahead and decide taking a life is the thing to do????
I would tend to think that after you've made terms with that fact the next step is a little easier....if you're seriously mentally imbalanced that makes the likelihood even more a possibility
Conflict resolution is the root problem to mass shootings. It seems there is a whole generation of people that don't know how to resolve conflict without violence.
At one time most carried guns. Why at some point did we collective as a society decide that no longer worked and why, if the experiment has already played out, would we want to return to that way of life??
Mental illness is almost entirely the cause of mass shootings not conflict resolution.
That's what conservatives keep saying, yet they always are apposed to enhanced background checks that would check for such things.
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The word is spelled opposed.
The rest of your post is bullsh*t.
Republicans, as does The NRA, want tight, deep and through background checks that include a tie-in to mental heath records. They also want the federal government to stop failing in the background checks system.
Unfortunately every time The Republicans try to get the legislation passes the left starts screaming discrimination and all their other rhetoric to ensure the legislation never passes.
Yes, you caught a typo. The rest of your post is BS. The NRA opposes any additional background checks, and whatever the NRA says the Republicans (along with about half the Democrats) follow along like a loyal puppy dog that just got neutered.
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
A bit overwhelming of a fact.......Once you own a gun for protection you've made a decision that you are willing to take a life.
Does every legal gun owners have the same level of restraint to know when that line has been crossed for them to go ahead and decide taking a life is the thing to do????
I would tend to think that after you've made terms with that fact the next step is a little easier....if you're seriously mentally imbalanced that makes the likelihood even more a possibility
Conflict resolution is the root problem to mass shootings. It seems there is a whole generation of people that don't know how to resolve conflict without violence.
At one time most carried guns. Why at some point did we collective as a society decide that no longer worked and why, if the experiment has already played out, would we want to return to that way of life??
Mental illness is almost entirely the cause of mass shootings not conflict resolution.
That's what conservatives keep saying, yet they always are apposed to enhanced background checks that would check for such things.
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The word is spelled opposed.
The rest of your post is bullsh*t.
Republicans, as does The NRA, want tight, deep and through background checks that include a tie-in to mental heath records. They also want the federal government to stop failing in the background checks system.
Unfortunately every time The Republicans try to get the legislation passes the left starts screaming discrimination and all their other rhetoric to ensure the legislation never passes.
Yes, you caught a typo. The rest of your post is BS. The NRA opposes any additional background checks, and whatever the NRA says the Republicans (along with about half the Democrats) follow along like a loyal puppy dog that just got neutered.
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More of your lies and the usual liberal talking points.
Post here one piece of gun purchase background check legislation that the NRA has opposed.
Still waiting for your idea or proposal for legislation that will actually curtail gun violence.
Are you waiting for another empty Obama speech to tell you what you should think?
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150314/anti-gun-universal-background-check-bill-reintroduced
Anti-gun U.S. Representatives Peter King (R-N.Y.) and Mike Thompson (D-Calif.), have introduced new "universal" background check legislation in the form of H.R. 1217. This legislation is similar to the failed Obama and Bloomberg-backed legislation from last congress that attempted to create a “universal” background check system that would criminalize the private transfer of a firearm between life-long friends and even family members.
The NRA opposes this legislation because it does not address the real problems of fixing the broken mental health system and prosecuting criminals. Further, criminals will never submit to such a system so it will never truly be “universal” – and according to a recent Justice Department research paper the only way to enforce “universal background checks” is to create a national registry of gun owners.
Please contact your U.S. Representative and urge him or her to OPPOSE H.R. 1217.
You can contact your U.S. Representative about this legislation by using our "Write Your Lawmakers" tool at www.NRAILA.org, or by phone at (202) 224-3121.
Research is so hard......... 😛
Hey Mule I posted the article about the steps taken by Australia as well as my following personal feelings toward a solution. Why do you keep saying no liberal has made any suggestions as to how to stop gun violence?
There have been many proposals that would make it harder for criminals to get guns. I also support a national, even a military effort, to find and arrest every individual who has an unregistered, illegal weapon. If we spent the same type of resources on getting these illegal guns off the streets as we spend on terrorism I believe we would see gun deaths minimized.
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gun-homicides-in-the-US-are-committed-by-legally-owned-firearms This is an interesting discussion on how many guns owned illegally are used to commit crimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
A bit overwhelming of a fact.......Once you own a gun for protection you've made a decision that you are willing to take a life.
Does every legal gun owners have the same level of restraint to know when that line has been crossed for them to go ahead and decide taking a life is the thing to do????
I would tend to think that after you've made terms with that fact the next step is a little easier....if you're seriously mentally imbalanced that makes the likelihood even more a possibility
Conflict resolution is the root problem to mass shootings. It seems there is a whole generation of people that don't know how to resolve conflict without violence.
At one time most carried guns. Why at some point did we collective as a society decide that no longer worked and why, if the experiment has already played out, would we want to return to that way of life??
Mental illness is almost entirely the cause of mass shootings not conflict resolution.
That's what conservatives keep saying, yet they always are apposed to enhanced background checks that would check for such things.
______________________________________________________________________
The word is spelled opposed.
The rest of your post is bullsh*t.
Republicans, as does The NRA, want tight, deep and through background checks that include a tie-in to mental heath records. They also want the federal government to stop failing in the background checks system.
Unfortunately every time The Republicans try to get the legislation passes the left starts screaming discrimination and all their other rhetoric to ensure the legislation never passes.
Yes, you caught a typo. The rest of your post is BS. The NRA opposes any additional background checks, and whatever the NRA says the Republicans (along with about half the Democrats) follow along like a loyal puppy dog that just got neutered.
______________________________________________________________________
More of your lies and the usual liberal talking points.
Post here one piece of gun purchase background check legislation that the NRA has opposed.
Still waiting for your idea or proposal for legislation that will actually curtail gun violence.
Are you waiting for another empty Obama speech to tell you what you should think?
The NRA'S website comes straight out and says they oppose background checks.
https://www.nraila.org/issues/background-checksnics/
But sure, maybe the NRA'S own website is lying. Those damn lying liberals at the NRA.
Metal detectors. Every public building, every entrance, full alarm if breached, direct alert to cops.
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Can anyone answer why you would oppose a mandatory classroom training course, exam, and physical demonstration on safety and accuracy in order to get a gun license?_______________________________________________
I don't oppose those things but they will not stop the vast majority of spree killings.
Agreed. But since it would probably prevent some accidental deaths at the very least, nobody should oppose such measures. Conservative Republicans have a pretty big perception problem when they indicate they won't even entertain the idea.
All it would take is for one of these candidates to say, "Nobody will ever take our guns away, but we will make sure the wrong people don't tarnish our 2nd amendment right". I think the leading Republican candidate would beat the Democratic nominee if they went that route. It would show a willingness to listen and compromise, plus take action...something Obama failed to do. You can't ask for a better opportunity in this race. I don't feel good believing that they will fail to take advantage.
It's called overbroad legislation. If we make the driving age 30 it will dramatically cut down on car deaths. You think that's a good idea? We have all the laws we need to dramatically limit gun deaths. We have a lack of will to enforce them.
