And so what did Iraq have to do with any of this?

How about what is the Bush administration doing blocking the FBI from talking to guys they think were involved with 9/11??!! And then flying them out of the country!!

And so what did Iraq have to do with any of this?

but,but,but, they had wmd's 😮 😮

They sure did, wmd's, women making dinners!

How about what is the Bush administration doing blocking the FBI from talking to guys they think were involved with 9/11??!! And then flying them out of the country!!

Don't you know? There was an oil deal offered to the Afghan Taliban to help manage the country's resources. We invited them to Houston, but they were not swayed by the lawmakers or even the beauty of those Texas women they laid eyes on. When they refused, there was a meeting held in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Hamid Karzai was at this meeting, long before he was President. Contracts were signed so that the oil and the profits from the Caspian Sea would go to certain people. Including people from some well known Saudi families.

Many of Osama's relatives work for the intelligence communities and the oil companies. Shafiq bin Laden was in a meeting with Bush IN Washington prior to the attacks of 9.11.01. They were discussing oil.

Osama was estranged from his family, including those involved with the oil. When they were flown out of the US, they were told that he did the attacks of 9.11.01, they believed it, furthering their estrangement from him. Did he do it? In a book his son co-wrote with Osama's first wife, and an English author/translater he indicated that he believed he was involved in it. When Osama was asked IF he did it he told the Afghan Islamic Press, "I have no connection with this explosion, the US should look for whomever is dissenting against it from within it's own borders". You never read that, it was suppressed in this country. He later gave an interview with Hamid Mir, a respected Pakistani journalist, (upon whom subsequent assassination attempts were waged) and again denied involvement in the attacks. It was only later that he changed his statements, and I think, decided to use a lie that was fabricated against him, to unify Muslims against the US and the others he believed were covertly involved.

"NY POST: Saudis complicit in 9/11 and Bush admin covered it up"

That is how the left-wingers want the article to say but it does not.
Maybe, could be and possibly are not a presentation of facts, it is opinion.
If it were facts obama would have declassified the documents (which no one running off at the mouth has seen).
The classified documents remain exactly that: classified.

Unless of course Hillary Clinton had them on the private un-secure email server.

Yet again, the liberals have no facts.

Gina - yes, know of many of the gigantic holes in the 9/11 story and many of the reports that indicate Pakistani and Isaeli involvement. My point was: The fact that the MSM is covering inconsistencies in the official story - particularly the ultra conservative NY Post placing blame on the Bush admin - is significant. If people who haven't looked at 9/11 before now think they've been lied to about Saudi involvement, it gives you hope they'll start looking at all the other issues with 9/11 they didn't know about or took for granted before.

Does anyone on this board still even respond to Muleman? Same irrational distort-reality-to-fit-the-Republicans-are-perfect responses. Seriously Mule, try considering the possibility that the world isn't what Fox says it is sometimes

[Edited on 4/18/2016 by axeman]

Gina - yes, know of many of the gigantic holes in the 9/11 story and many of the reports that indicate Pakistani and Isaeli involvement. My point was: The fact that the MSM is covering inconsistencies in the official story - particularly the ultra conservative NY Post placing blame on the Bush admin - is significant. If people who haven't looked at 9/11 before now think they've been lied to about Saudi involvement, it gives you hope they'll start looking at all the other issues with 9/11 they didn't know about or took for granted before.

Does anyone on this board still even respond to Muleman? Same irrational distort-reality-to-fit-the-Republicans-are-perfect responses. Seriously Mule, try considering the possibility that the world isn't what Fox says it is sometimes

[Edited on 4/18/2016 by axeman]

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The only "information" you have are the opinions of the left-wing media.
You, nor anyone else without a security clearance has read the classified "28 pages" but the liberals do like to make assumptions.

You have no facts

Do you really think Bill Clinton, on whose watch the Islamic Extremist Terrorists over stayed their visas and trained for the 9/11 attacks and ignored all the warnings, really wants the failures of his presidency back in the news?

Gina - yes, know of many of the gigantic holes in the 9/11 story and many of the reports that indicate Pakistani and Isaeli involvement. My point was: The fact that the MSM is covering inconsistencies in the official story - particularly the ultra conservative NY Post placing blame on the Bush admin - is significant. If people who haven't looked at 9/11 before now think they've been lied to about Saudi involvement, it gives you hope they'll start looking at all the other issues with 9/11 they didn't know about or took for granted before.

Does anyone on this board still even respond to Muleman? Same irrational distort-reality-to-fit-the-Republicans-are-perfect responses. Seriously Mule, try considering the possibility that the world isn't what Fox says it is sometimes

[Edited on 4/18/2016 by axeman]

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The only "information" you have are the opinions of the left-wing media.
You, nor anyone else without a security clearance has read the classified "28 pages" but the liberals do like to make assumptions.

You have no facts

Do you really think Bill Clinton, on whose watch the Islamic Extremist Terrorists over stayed their visas and trained for the 9/11 attacks and ignored all the warnings, really wants the failures of his presidency back in the news?

So says the clueless, moronic, troll, who gets his"facts" from fox news 😛

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"Saudis complicit in 9/11 and Bush admin covered it up"

Okay pops, prove it big mouth.
Share with us your facts.
Take your time, no one is waiting.

BTW - Fox News is the most watched and most trusted for both hard news and commentary according to national independent polls.

Come on pops, what are your facts?

Gina - yes, know of many of the gigantic holes in the 9/11 story and many of the reports that indicate Pakistani and Isaeli involvement. My point was: The fact that the MSM is covering inconsistencies in the official story - particularly the ultra conservative NY Post placing blame on the Bush admin - is significant. If people who haven't looked at 9/11 before now think they've been lied to about Saudi involvement, it gives you hope they'll start looking at all the other issues with 9/11 they didn't know about or took for granted before.

Does anyone on this board still even respond to Muleman? Same irrational distort-reality-to-fit-the-Republicans-are-perfect responses. Seriously Mule, try considering the possibility that the world isn't what Fox says it is sometimes

[Edited on 4/18/2016 by axeman]

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The only "information" you have are the opinions of the left-wing media.
You, nor anyone else without a security clearance has read the classified "28 pages" but the liberals do like to make assumptions.

You have no facts

Do you really think Bill Clinton, on whose watch the Islamic Extremist Terrorists over stayed their visas and trained for the 9/11 attacks and ignored all the warnings, really wants the failures of his presidency back in the news?

So says the clueless, moronic, troll, who gets his"facts" from fox news 😛

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"Saudis complicit in 9/11 and Bush admin covered it up"

Okay pops, prove it big mouth.
Share with us your facts.
Take your time, no one is waiting.

BTW - Fox News is the most watched and most trusted for both hard news and commentary according to national independent polls.

Come on pops, what are your facts?

I guess you didn't look at the links provided, Idiot.

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Nothing in either the NY Post or CBS News links provide any facts, only supposition dumbass.

Here we have pops striving hard to maintain his status as a low-info voter.

You should really learn how to read pops.

Gina - yes, know of many of the gigantic holes in the 9/11 story and many of the reports that indicate Pakistani and Isaeli involvement. My point was: The fact that the MSM is covering inconsistencies in the official story - particularly the ultra conservative NY Post placing blame on the Bush admin - is significant. If people who haven't looked at 9/11 before now think they've been lied to about Saudi involvement, it gives you hope they'll start looking at all the other issues with 9/11 they didn't know about or took for granted before.

Does anyone on this board still even respond to Muleman? Same irrational distort-reality-to-fit-the-Republicans-are-perfect responses. Seriously Mule, try considering the possibility that the world isn't what Fox says it is sometimes

[Edited on 4/18/2016 by axeman]

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The only "information" you have are the opinions of the left-wing media.
You, nor anyone else without a security clearance has read the classified "28 pages" but the liberals do like to make assumptions.

You have no facts

Do you really think Bill Clinton, on whose watch the Islamic Extremist Terrorists over stayed their visas and trained for the 9/11 attacks and ignored all the warnings, really wants the failures of his presidency back in the news?

So says the clueless, moronic, troll, who gets his"facts" from fox news 😛

________________________________________________________________________

"Saudis complicit in 9/11 and Bush admin covered it up"

Okay pops, prove it big mouth.
Share with us your facts.
Take your time, no one is waiting.

BTW - Fox News is the most watched and most trusted for both hard news and commentary according to national independent polls.

Come on pops, what are your facts?

All the dirty laundry was noted and quoted by many news reporters after 9.11.01 then it was suppressed and removed by the intel folks, but we all read it, we all know. I don't think the Saudis contributed to the event happening, I think it is convenient to blame them; but there is a well known relationship between the US and the Saudis and the high level people on both sides. One thing is clear though, they wanted to "distort" Osama's image in the media and they told him they would do that when he was exiled from the Kingdom. That was reported on also. He had his own political discourse and disagreements with them when he offered to provide al Qaida fighters to take out Saddam and his overtures were refused. The Saudis did not want Al Qaida settling in Iraq and building their caliphate there. So the US launched the first Iraqi war, and Saddam did not die. If we did not go to Afghanistan, destabilize that country and then go back to Iraq, we would not be in the situation we are in today.

Isis just launched an attack on the consulate in Jalalabad, many wounded and others killed. The Afghan Talibs have been fighting in Kabul, (big blast there) the Pakistani Taliban took out a high level Sikh in Pakistan. Lots of stuff going on there right now.

Suffice it to say there has been subterfuge going on related to the "war on terror".

Sadly, we've been looking the other way regarding Saudi behavior for decades. It's all part of the deal hatched out near the end of WWII and one that continues to this day.

They provide oil, we defend them, fight their wars, ignore their human rights records, sell them very expensive weaponry, and even ignore their part in terrorist activities not only in the Middle East, but obviously on our shores....Nothing to be shocked about, really, as throughout our history as a super power we've worked with all sorts of not so nice groups for our own ends.....

Now of course the calculus has changed somewhat given we don't need their oil nearly as much at this particular moment in time. Will we in the distant future, however? That's the big question I suppose..

[Edited on 4/24/2016 by Chain]

Public PERCEPTION of where the US gets its oil:

http://www.randalolson.com/2014/08/28/where-the-u-s-gets-its-oil-from/

Gina - yes, know of many of the gigantic holes in the 9/11 story and many of the reports that indicate Pakistani and Isaeli involvement. My point was: The fact that the MSM is covering inconsistencies in the official story - particularly the ultra conservative NY Post placing blame on the Bush admin - is significant. If people who haven't looked at 9/11 before now think they've been lied to about Saudi involvement, it gives you hope they'll start looking at all the other issues with 9/11 they didn't know about or took for granted before.

Does anyone on this board still even respond to Muleman? Same irrational distort-reality-to-fit-the-Republicans-are-perfect responses. Seriously Mule, try considering the possibility that the world isn't what Fox says it is sometimes

[Edited on 4/18/2016 by axeman]

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The only "information" you have are the opinions of the left-wing media.
You, nor anyone else without a security clearance has read the classified "28 pages" but the liberals do like to make assumptions.

You have no facts

Do you really think Bill Clinton, on whose watch the Islamic Extremist Terrorists over stayed their visas and trained for the 9/11 attacks and ignored all the warnings, really wants the failures of his presidency back in the news?

So says the clueless, moronic, troll, who gets his"facts" from fox news 😛

________________________________________________________________________

"Saudis complicit in 9/11 and Bush admin covered it up"

Okay pops, prove it big mouth.
Share with us your facts.
Take your time, no one is waiting.

BTW - Fox News is the most watched and most trusted for both hard news and commentary according to national independent polls.

Come on pops, what are your facts?

I guess you didn't look at the links provided, Idiot.

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Nothing in either the NY Post or CBS News links provide any facts, only supposition dumbass.

Here we have pops striving hard to maintain his status as a low-info voter.

You should really learn how to read pops.

So its just supposition that the ultra right wing, new york post reports that the CIA found incontrovertible evidence that the saudi govt. helped the hijackers financially and logistically??? 😛 congratulations! you are still l[by far] the dumbest a$$hole to ever post on here.

[Edited on 4/22/2016 by pops42]

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Your "CIA found incontrovertible evidence" has no factual basis which is evident by the fact that no evidence of such was in the article.

Since no one has seen the "28 pages" the supposition and opinion articles are nothing more than exactly that.

But you will believe anything that fits your political ideology fact or fiction.
You are perfect example of how an unqualified amateur like obama can get elected president.

Still waiting for your facts.

Gina - yes, know of many of the gigantic holes in the 9/11 story and many of the reports that indicate Pakistani and Isaeli involvement. My point was: The fact that the MSM is covering inconsistencies in the official story - particularly the ultra conservative NY Post placing blame on the Bush admin - is significant. If people who haven't looked at 9/11 before now think they've been lied to about Saudi involvement, it gives you hope they'll start looking at all the other issues with 9/11 they didn't know about or took for granted before.

Does anyone on this board still even respond to Muleman? Same irrational distort-reality-to-fit-the-Republicans-are-perfect responses. Seriously Mule, try considering the possibility that the world isn't what Fox says it is sometimes

[Edited on 4/18/2016 by axeman]

________________________________________________________________________

The only "information" you have are the opinions of the left-wing media.
You, nor anyone else without a security clearance has read the classified "28 pages" but the liberals do like to make assumptions.

You have no facts

Do you really think Bill Clinton, on whose watch the Islamic Extremist Terrorists over stayed their visas and trained for the 9/11 attacks and ignored all the warnings, really wants the failures of his presidency back in the news?

So says the clueless, moronic, troll, who gets his"facts" from fox news 😛

________________________________________________________________________

"Saudis complicit in 9/11 and Bush admin covered it up"

Okay pops, prove it big mouth.
Share with us your facts.
Take your time, no one is waiting.

BTW - Fox News is the most watched and most trusted for both hard news and commentary according to national independent polls.

Come on pops, what are your facts?

I guess you didn't look at the links provided, Idiot.

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Nothing in either the NY Post or CBS News links provide any facts, only supposition dumbass.

Here we have pops striving hard to maintain his status as a low-info voter.

You should really learn how to read pops.

So its just supposition that the ultra right wing, new york post reports that the CIA found incontrovertible evidence that the saudi govt. helped the hijackers financially and logistically??? 😛 congratulations! you are still l[by far] the dumbest a$$hole to ever post on here.

[Edited on 4/22/2016 by pops42]

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Your "CIA found incontrovertible evidence" has no factual basis which is evident by the fact that no evidence of such was in the article.

Since no one has seen the "28 pages" the supposition and opinion articles are nothing more than exactly that.

But you will believe anything that fits your political ideology fact or fiction.
You are perfect example of how an unqualified amateur like obama can get elected president.

Still waiting for your facts.

Its a brand new day, and YOU are still STUPID.

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No facts eh?
You still have nothing.

Yes We Can turns into No You Can't

Obama vetoes the bill allowing people to sue the Saudis.

http://khaleejtimes.com/international/americas/obama-to-veto-anti-saudi-911-bill-passed-by-senate

The US Senate approved legislation on Tuesday that would allow September 11 victims and their relatives to sue Saudi Arabia over its possible role in the 2001 attacks, a bill which could trigger a diplomatic firestorm.

The bill would allow 9/11 families to pursue cases in federal court against foreign governments, notably Saudi Arabia, and demand compensation if such governments are proven to bear some responsibility for the attacks.

The New York Times reported last month that Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al Jubeir told lawmakers in Washington that the kingdom would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets in the United States to avoid having them frozen by federal courts.