I think the issue is whether Doug used the word Pygmy to refer to people of little significance or to midget black tribesmen. I believe the former but readily see how it was interpreted as the latter. Perhaps we need to substitute munchkins but that has no political overtones

. pl. Pyg·mies also Pig·mies
1. Greek Mythology A member of a race of dwarfs.

2. also pygmy A member of any of various peoples, especially of equatorial Africa and parts of Southeast Asia, having an average height less than 5 feet (1.5 meters).

3. pygmy
a. An individual of unusually small size.

b. An individual considered to be of little or no importance: political pygmies.

And I still see not how feeling Netanyahu had the right to speak makes you disloyal. It obviously is not illegal; he obviously disagrees with Obama and it is obvious that they hate each others guts. And as for Israel being the 50th state I will again point out that there is obviously some reason the US feels Israel is strategically important as they are the only stable non dictatorship in the Mid East. I do feel if it was up to Obama that support would be less. He is no fan of Israel

Is pygmy offensive? I wasn't even sure what one was. Now I know, so thank you.

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Isn’t the liberals politically correct term now a “person with height challenges”?

Funny, I think any reasonable person can agree that Iran shouldn't have a nuclear weapon, after that there is understandable disagreement on how to try and stop that from happening.

Are there any reasonable people that believe Obama can negotiate Iran out of having nukes?

Negotiating with Iran.

That doesn't even look right and it felt weird even typing it.

Negotiating with Iran........Any other great ideas? How about negotiating with a live shark? Pretty much one in the same, difference being that the shark would be much more trustworthy.

Obama negotiating with Iran. Good God.

Guess we should just go blow them off the face of the earth instead.......

"Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!"

Are there any reasonable people that believe Obama can negotiate Iran out of having nukes?

Negotiating with Iran.

That doesn't even look right and it felt weird even typing it.

Negotiating with Iran........Any other great ideas? How about negotiating with a live shark? Pretty much one in the same, difference being that the shark would be much more trustworthy.

Obama negotiating with Iran. Good God.

Now that a foreign policy expert has weighed in...

What is your solution alloak?

Do you think all Iranians are just completely unreasonable? Incapable of thought? Do they not love their children?

Why do you think they are incapable of negotiating?

Why do you think they are incapable of negotiating?

Because Obama apparently thinks they are capable. Why else?

Are there any reasonable people that believe Obama can negotiate Iran out of having nukes?

Negotiating with Iran.

That doesn't even look right and it felt weird even typing it.

Negotiating with Iran........Any other great ideas? How about negotiating with a live shark? Pretty much one in the same, difference being that the shark would be much more trustworthy.

Obama negotiating with Iran. Good God.

Now that a foreign policy expert has weighed in...

What is your solution alloak?

Do you think all Iranians are just completely unreasonable? Incapable of thought? Do they not love their children?

Why do you think they are incapable of negotiating?

what would be their part of the negotiation? saying what they won't do and haven't done?

and you'd believe them?

Guess we should just go blow them off the face of the earth instead.......

"Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!"

And we're just the guys to do it!

Why do you think they are incapable of negotiating?

Because Obama apparently thinks they are capable. Why else?

I'm sure Iran could negotiate the horns off a goat. Getting them to follow through and
hold up their end is the problem.

They're savages all right, but they're trustworthy savages!

Guess we should just go blow them off the face of the earth instead.......

"Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!"

And we're just the guys to do it!

Meet "Secretary of War" Mr. Newman

They're savages all right, but they're trustworthy savages!

Savages? No. You are dead wrong. You have an amazing lack of knowledge when it comes to Iran.

They're savages all right, but they're trustworthy savages!

Savages? No. You are dead wrong. You have an amazing lack of knowledge when it comes to Iran.

The citizens of Iran are not savages. I won't go any further than that.

THis thread has been very entertaining to follow. In order to negotiate effectively with your adversary, you have to understand what it is they want and use that as a tool to negotiate a deal that gets you more of what you want. What does Iran really want?

THis thread has been very entertaining to follow. In order to negotiate effectively with your adversary, you have to understand what it is they want and use that as a tool to negotiate a deal that gets you more of what you want. What does Iran really want?

They would love to kill us. Consider that as a starting point for the "negotiations."

Is pygmy offensive? I wasn't even sure what one was. Now I know, so thank you.

Do you think Doug meant it as a compliment?

Is a failure to compliment necessarily offensive?

After you read the meaning of the word, you have questions? If Doug used a word in a foreign language about Obama it would be a safe bet to assume it was an insult.

Obviously it was an insult. It is a commonly used insult to describe someone of minsicule character. No different when Democratic candidates back in 1992 were called the seven dwarves. But apparently you are not allowed to put down Obama. He is above it. The very idea that it has anything to do with race is laughable. I don't think that way.

THis thread has been very entertaining to follow. In order to negotiate effectively with your adversary, you have to understand what it is they want and use that as a tool to negotiate a deal that gets you more of what you want. What does Iran really want?

The real question is does Iran know what Obama wants. They have clearly taken the measure of the man. He wants an agreement at any price and any cost. And that is what he will get unless the Mullahs push so far that even Obama can't justify signing which is a distinct possibility. Then it will be interesting because we will have no agreement and Obama told us the choice was between an agreement and immediate war.

THis thread has been very entertaining to follow. In order to negotiate effectively with your adversary, you have to understand what it is they want and use that as a tool to negotiate a deal that gets you more of what you want. What does Iran really want?

The real question is does Iran know what Obama wants. They have clearly taken the measure of the man. He wants an agreement at any price and any cost. And that is what he will get unless the Mullahs push so far that even Obama can't justify signing which is a distinct possibility. Then it will be interesting because we will have no agreement and Obama told us the choice was between an agreement and immediate war.

I apologize. I didn't know you were sitting in on the talks and had all of this inside information.

Obama has publically stated the “he” is ready to walk away from the negotiations at any time.
The Iranians, like Putin, play obama like the weak leader he is.

Based on his, hillary and kerry’s history of foreign policy negotiations, there will be no agreement, obama will further relax sanctions and Iran will continue to develop a nuclear weapon.

THis thread has been very entertaining to follow. In order to negotiate effectively with your adversary, you have to understand what it is they want and use that as a tool to negotiate a deal that gets you more of what you want. What does Iran really want?

The real question is does Iran know what Obama wants. They have clearly taken the measure of the man. He wants an agreement at any price and any cost. And that is what he will get unless the Mullahs push so far that even Obama can't justify signing which is a distinct possibility. Then it will be interesting because we will have no agreement and Obama told us the choice was between an agreement and immediate war.

I apologize. I didn't know you were sitting in on the talks and had all of this inside information.

Ever hear the following expression? "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows."

I believe a guy named Dylan wrote that. If you think "I apologize. I didn't know you were sitting in on the talks and had all of this inside information." is any kind of answer then I don't know what to say. I guess I could use it to respond to "Bush lied people died" but I prefer to actually explain why the other person's argument is wrong rather than make a snarky remark.

Obama has publically stated the “he” is ready to walk away from the negotiations at any time.
The Iranians, like Putin, play obama like the weak leader he is.

Based on his, hillary and kerry’s history of foreign policy negotiations, there will be no agreement, obama will further relax sanctions and Iran will continue to develop a nuclear weapon.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons. Obama is negotiating for himself. He won't submit the agreement to congressional scrutiny because he knows it will never be approved.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons.

I'd lay down solid money that a large majority of "the country" doesn't know or care about the negotiations, doesn't know that Iran doesn't even have one nuclear weapon yet and couldn't find Iran on a map if you spotted them the continent of Asia and the Persian Gulf.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons.

I'd lay down solid money that a large majority of "the country" doesn't know or care about the negotiations, doesn't know that Iran doesn't even have one nuclear weapon yet and couldn't find Iran on a map if you spotted them the continent of Asia and the Persian Gulf.

that's true, reminds one of the Jay Leno "Jaywalking" segments when he was around. The thing that always got me about that, and your post, is that their vote, should they decide to even vote, counts as much as anyone's in this thread.

go figure.

The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons.

Then it is a good thing no one is doing that.

I'd lay down solid money that a large majority of "the country" doesn't know or care about the negotiations, doesn't know that Iran doesn't even have one nuclear weapon yet and couldn't find Iran on a map if you spotted them the continent of Asia and the Persian Gulf.

If you spotted them the continent of Asia and the Persian Gulf. Heheheheheh.

Clever.

Obama has publically stated the “he” is ready to walk away from the negotiations at any time.
The Iranians, like Putin, play obama like the weak leader he is.

Based on his, hillary and kerry’s history of foreign policy negotiations, there will be no agreement, obama will further relax sanctions and Iran will continue to develop a nuclear weapon.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons. Obama is negotiating for himself. He won't submit the agreement to congressional scrutiny because he knows it will never be approved.

The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs? Where did you come up with that? Is this another of your internal polls where you think something and therefore the entire country agrees with you?

The entire course of human history has been helped and driven by negotiation and war. I prefer the former.

Hmmm. How much would a World War effect me compared to a series of negotiations?

Obama has publically stated the “he” is ready to walk away from the negotiations at any time.
The Iranians, like Putin, play obama like the weak leader he is.

Based on his, hillary and kerry’s history of foreign policy negotiations, there will be no agreement, obama will further relax sanctions and Iran will continue to develop a nuclear weapon.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons. Obama is negotiating for himself. He won't submit the agreement to congressional scrutiny because he knows it will never be approved.

The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs? Where did you come up with that? Is this another of your internal polls where you think something and therefore the entire country agrees with you?

He just knows things that the rest of us don't 'cause it blows in the wind. Please realize that there are omniscient people out there...yes...way out there.

Obama has publically stated the “he” is ready to walk away from the negotiations at any time.
The Iranians, like Putin, play obama like the weak leader he is.

Based on his, hillary and kerry’s history of foreign policy negotiations, there will be no agreement, obama will further relax sanctions and Iran will continue to develop a nuclear weapon.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons. Obama is negotiating for himself. He won't submit the agreement to congressional scrutiny because he knows it will never be approved.

The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs? Where did you come up with that? Is this another of your internal polls where you think something and therefore the entire country agrees with you?

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Every major poll shows the American People do not want any negotiation with Iran that allows Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

Obama and Kerry are offering a 10 year "secession" of weapons grade uranium by Iran which would allow Iran to go right back to building a bomb in 10 years.
Everyone also knows that during the 10 year period Iran will now allow inspection of its secret facilities. Iran will simply throw out the inspectors as they have done every time before.

The IAEA has also stated that negotiating with Iran is a fruitless effort.

But hey, the liberals here will never believe the People and the professionals.

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Obama has publically stated the “he” is ready to walk away from the negotiations at any time.
The Iranians, like Putin, play obama like the weak leader he is.

Based on his, hillary and kerry’s history of foreign policy negotiations, there will be no agreement, obama will further relax sanctions and Iran will continue to develop a nuclear weapon.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons. Obama is negotiating for himself. He won't submit the agreement to congressional scrutiny because he knows it will never be approved.

The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs? Where did you come up with that? Is this another of your internal polls where you think something and therefore the entire country agrees with you?

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Every major poll shows the American People do not want any negotiation with Iran that allows Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

Obama and Kerry are offering a 10 year "secession" of weapons grade uranium by Iran which would allow Iran to go right back to building a bomb in 10 years.
Everyone also knows that during the 10 year period Iran will now allow inspection of its secret facilities. Iran will simply throw out the inspectors as they have done every time before.

The IAEA has also stated that negotiating with Iran is a fruitless effort.

But hey, the liberals here will never believe the People and the professionals.

This is getting ridiculous. NO ONE wants a nuclear Iran except Iran. I am now convinced you are actually a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad. You're doing a really good job.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons.

I'd lay down solid money that a large majority of "the country" doesn't know or care about the negotiations, doesn't know that Iran doesn't even have one nuclear weapon yet and couldn't find Iran on a map if you spotted them the continent of Asia and the Persian Gulf.

The only thing you are right about in my opinion is finding Iran on the map. The country is not as stupid and apathetic as a lot of you like to assume. But heck even the NY Times couldn't find Iran on the map.

Obama has publically stated the “he” is ready to walk away from the negotiations at any time.
The Iranians, like Putin, play obama like the weak leader he is.

Based on his, hillary and kerry’s history of foreign policy negotiations, there will be no agreement, obama will further relax sanctions and Iran will continue to develop a nuclear weapon.

This is one time where it really is "him" and not the country. The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs on how best to allow them to develop nuclear weapons. Obama is negotiating for himself. He won't submit the agreement to congressional scrutiny because he knows it will never be approved.

The country opposes negotiating with the Mullahs? Where did you come up with that? Is this another of your internal polls where you think something and therefore the entire country agrees with you?

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