This is one of the dumbest topics ever started here. We're talking about a comedian hosting satirical comedy show on a comedy channel. Even alloak is objecting to any comparison to FOX News, which I agree with by the way since that is a network of news and political commentators hosting news and political commentary shows on a news network. Apples and oranges.

Okay, I know I shouldn't even play, but this is too good.

I don't even watch Stewart, and believe me I'm well aware he's just a comedian. How does that make me the low-information voter?

"Jon Stewart: Democrat Party Political Hack"

"Political puppet from Obama's land of make believe, disguised as a free-thinking independent seeker of truth and fair-minded arbiter of political commentary...."

LIV or Troll.....you decide.

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Okay, I know I shouldn't even play, but this is too good.

I don't even watch Stewart, and believe me I'm well aware he's just a comedian. How does that make me the low-information voter?

"Jon Stewart: Democrat Party Political Hack"

"Political puppet from Obama's land of make believe, disguised as a free-thinking independent seeker of truth and fair-minded arbiter of political commentary...."

LIV or Troll.....you decide.

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It's a thread title and opening post. What's your point?

Okay, I know I shouldn't even play, but this is too good.

I don't even watch Stewart, and believe me I'm well aware he's just a comedian. How does that make me the low-information voter?

"Jon Stewart: Democrat Party Political Hack"

"Political puppet from Obama's land of make believe, disguised as a free-thinking independent seeker of truth and fair-minded arbiter of political commentary...."

LIV or Troll.....you decide.

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It's a thread title and opening post. What's your point?

Okay, let's add this and see if it helps:

"You must instinctively know that political commentators should probably put a certain distance between themselves and the White House. Then again, maybe you don't, so why not just put Stewart on the WH payroll?

Roll the credits at the outro, and don't forget to include David Axelrod - Producer."

Okay, I know I shouldn't even play, but this is too good.

I don't even watch Stewart, and believe me I'm well aware he's just a comedian. How does that make me the low-information voter?

"Jon Stewart: Democrat Party Political Hack"

"Political puppet from Obama's land of make believe, disguised as a free-thinking independent seeker of truth and fair-minded arbiter of political commentary...."

LIV or Troll.....you decide.

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It's a thread title and opening post. What's your point?

Okay, let's add this and see if it helps:

"You must instinctively know that political commentators should probably put a certain distance between themselves and the White House. Then again, maybe you don't, so why not just put Stewart on the WH payroll?

Roll the credits at the outro, and don't forget to include David Axelrod - Producer."

Maybe this will help. What's your point?

You say you know Stewart is just a liberal comedian after starting a thread about him being a political hack disguised as a free thinking independent seeker of truth and fair-minded arbiter of political commentary. You add statements concerning what Stewart should do as a political commentator. Then you say you are well aware he is just a comedian when you get hammered for your statements. You are either trolling or you truly don't know the difference. Or maybe you truly don't see the point, which would make the whole exercise completely unfair.

alloak - you got to be putting us on... right?

This is one of the dumbest topics ever started here. We're talking about a comedian hosting satirical comedy show on a comedy channel.

Let's not get too carried away with that designation. Plenty of competition there.

BTW, the NY Times carried a story on this topic. Pretty dumb. Included was the following quote from Dag Vega, staffer. "Jon Stewart was a key influencer for millennials. They relied on him for an honest take on the news..." Strange, an honest take on the news and not comedy satire?

You say you know Stewart is just a liberal comedian after starting a thread about him being a political hack disguised as a free thinking independent seeker of truth and fair-minded arbiter of political commentary. You add statements concerning what Stewart should do as a political commentator. Then you say you are well aware he is just a comedian when you get hammered for your statements. You are either trolling or you truly don't know the difference. Or maybe you truly don't see the point, which would make the whole exercise completely unfair.

You're totally missing the point, intentionally I would guess.

It's not about what I know or don't know. It's about what many or most of his followers DON'T know. They take him seriously and believe he's a serious newsman. That's precisely why he was targeted by the WH to influence low information voters who don't know the difference.

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[Edited on 7/30/2015 by alloak41]

This is one of the dumbest topics ever started here. We're talking about a comedian hosting satirical comedy show on a comedy channel.

Let's not get too carried away with that designation. Plenty of competition there.

BTW, the NY Times carried a story on this topic. Pretty dumb. Included was the following quote from Dag Vega, staffer. "Jon Stewart was a key influencer for millennials. They relied on him for an honest take on the news..." Strange, an honest take on the news and not comedy satire?

So what Alloak nobody here is claiming he was or is a serious news reporter. Everyone has stated that he is a liberal comic so why do you think you have uncovered some important liberal scandal here? If he is the only news source for some people then they are sadly LIV. Same as if you get your news from Rush Limbaugh.

You say you know Stewart is just a liberal comedian after starting a thread about him being a political hack disguised as a free thinking independent seeker of truth and fair-minded arbiter of political commentary. You add statements concerning what Stewart should do as a political commentator. Then you say you are well aware he is just a comedian when you get hammered for your statements. You are either trolling or you truly don't know the difference. Or maybe you truly don't see the point, which would make the whole exercise completely unfair.

You're totally missing the point, intentionally I would guess.

It's not about what I know or don't know. It's about what many or most of his followers DON'T know. They take him seriously and believe he's a serious newsman. That's precisely why he was targeted by the WH to influence low information voters who don't know the difference.
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Why would I purposely miss the point? I have 12 years of history here that says I try to discuss stuff seriously. You, on the other hand, don't.

Everyone here has said they know exactly what Stewart is, yet you claim "many or most" of his followers take him seriously and believe he is a serious newsman. How would you know that? Do you truly believe Stewart is a puppet of the WH and is in cahoots with Obama? I agree that this is the dumbest thread ever (and yes, there some competition). And you still don't understand why anyone would think you are either trolling or just a LIV?

There's no way you can be serious about this, so you've got to be just trolling. Enjoy.

Stewart's response to this was hilarious

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/vc61pl/when-barry-met-silly---

Everyone here has said they know exactly what Stewart is, yet you claim "many or most" of his followers take him seriously and believe he is a serious newsman. How would you know that?

There's no way you can be serious about this, so you've got to be just trolling. Enjoy.

1. How would Dag Vega, Obama staffer know it? He said, "Jon Stewart was a key influencer of millenialls. They relied on him for an honest take on the news.." I don't have any reason to disbelieve him, do you? if that's not enough, just using logic and common sense, how on Earth would he top Brian Williams, Katie Couric and the like as the Most Trusted News Source if millions didn't believe he was a trusted news source? C'mon, now.

2. Would that make the number of media outlets that reported this trolls too? What is a troll?

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alloak - you got to be putting us on... right?

Not at all. You don't think the WH has bigger fish to fry than trying to influence political commentary? That's been a pattern throughout. They're too concerned about what the media is up to, while largely being treated with kid gloves. That makes this preoccupation even more absurd.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this show is on Comedy Central, right?

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So staffers like Axelrod were in frequent contact with Stewart to help him write his comedy sketches? Sure. That's really neat, but is that what you want them doing?

In general, the optimal situation for the public is for the media and the government to be like oil and water, a relationship bordering on adversarial.

Everyone here has said they know exactly what Stewart is, yet you claim "many or most" of his followers take him seriously and believe he is a serious newsman. How would you know that?

There's no way you can be serious about this, so you've got to be just trolling. Enjoy.

1. How would Dag Vega, Obama staffer know it? He said, "Jon Stewart was a key influencer of millenialls. They relied on him for an honest take on the news.." I don't have any reason to disbelieve him, do you? if that's not enough, just using logic and common sense, how on Earth would he top Brian Williams, Katie Couric and the like as the Most Trusted News Source if millions didn't believe he was a trusted news source? C'mon, now.

2. Would that make the number of media outlets that reported this trolls too? What is a troll?

[Edited on 7/30/2015 by alloak41]

I am still baffled about what you are arguing about here? You started this thread attacking Jon Stewart as not being non partisan because he "secretly" visited Obama and we are all agreeing with you that he is a liberal comedian who is far from non partisan.

Exactly what are you trying to get us liberals to admit to beyond that? What is the point of your argument you are trying to bait us with that I seem to be missing? I am happy to argue with you but need your help to understand what the argument is about?

I feel like I am in the twilight zone here.

Rush Visits Supreme Court, White House, Meets with President Bush, Karl Rove
June 27, 2006

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I've been racking my brain. I'm trying to figure out how Bob Dole's luggage got on my airplane. At any rate, ladies and gentlemen -- I told the doctor, I said, "Look, I'm worried about the next election, not..." A misunderstanding. Well, things are what they are. We're here to have more fun than a human being should be allowed, and we shall do so. Folks, I have to tell you about last week. I wanted to tell you before it all happened, but I have this new policy, I just don't get into specifics before things happen, for a host of reasons. But I have to tell you about Thursday and Friday in Washington.

After the program on Thursday I flew up to Washington, where I cohosted a dinner in the justices dining room at the United States Supreme Court with Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, Ginny. There were 22 guests at the dinner, including all of my friends from "24" who were in town for the seminar that we did at the Heritage Foundation on Friday. Mary Matalin

was there. I'm going to have trouble remembering all the guests. Mary Matalin was there, Laura Ingraham showed up, she used to clerk for Justice Thomas, big "24" fan. The Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff and his wife were there, had a fascinating conversation with him prior to dinner. We got a tour of the court after dinner. Justice Thomas showed us the great hall and showed us America's courtroom. By the way, welcome to those of you watching on the Dittocam. It's a thrill and a delight to have you with us at RushLimbaugh.com.

I've never been in the Supreme Court building, never been there at all. I've never been in the courtroom, obviously, and it was just fascinating. An enchanted evening. I mean, once in a lifetime dinner, cohosting dinner at the justices dining room at the United States Supreme Court. Noted terrorism expert Steve Emerson was there. I'm trying to think of -- go around the table. Did I say Mary Matalin? Mary Matalin was there. Well, Howard Gordon, Joel Surnow, oh, and Howard brought his 13-year-old son, Micah, with him, and the 13-year-old young man got to see the inside of the Supreme Court. He's just at that age where you can start to appreciate these things. I'll think of other people that were there, but when this was all discovered that we were going to be there, I got an e-mail from Karl Rove who invited us all to the White House for lunch in the White House mess after the "24" forum at the Heritage Foundation on Friday morning, and that was a hoot, too, by the way, and let me say something about that, folks. I warned you before this happened that we were not in control of the video feed.

I tried to tell you that we thought we had our bases covered, but every time we do this with a third party they assure us, "We can handle your load. We do this all the time." We say, "Yeah, but you haven't done this." I know there were some video dropouts, some audio dropouts. We got the transcript done now, and it's posted at RushLimbaugh.com, and I think we're going to get a clean video version of this, one way or the other, and we will eventually have it up there, if not yet, on the website. It was two hours, Secretary Chertoff led off the seminar, 650 people in the Reagan building on Friday morning, and I have to be honest with you, the sound system in there was such that even during the forum or the panel itself, I was able to hear maybe 40% of what the participants were saying.

The sound effects in there were very echoey. There was a lot of reverberation in there, and I kept leaning closer to the people who were speaking, but that just meant I would get in the way of the audience seeing them. I know that Greg Itzin, who played President Logan, zinged me a couple times and I had no clue what he said so I just had to do a Jack Benny expression to the audience. Mary Lynn Rajskub, Chloe, she zinged me too. I don't know if they zinged me, but they came out with one liners, everybody was laughing themselves silly, I didn't hear what they said, so I had to play along. And even at that, even only being able to hear 30 or 40% of what they were saying, there was no better moderator in Washington that day of a panel or a -- (laughing) -- forum. (interruption) I did not get your autograph from President Logan because I forgot, but I can get it any time.

I'll tell you what I'll do for you, Mr. Snerdley. When this season's DVDs come out, which will be in November, I'll get one then, okay? I'll get his autograph on a DVD series. If you want one sooner than that, it's just a hop, skip, and quick phone call. But I have to tell you, we went to the White House after the panel discussion. Karl Rove invited us over. He was going to host lunch in the mess, the White House mess, there's a ward room, seats about 14 people, and we all went over there. Now, we were scheduled to arrive at one o'clock. This is last Friday. We were scheduled to arrive at one o'clock, but we had scheduled a media gaggle for the participants in the panel after the seminar. So at about 12:15 my security guy who looks like Josef Stalin came up to me and said, "The White House has just called and if you can get over there by 12:25, the president would like to say hi." So, the president or the media, what do I choose here?

So I looked at the assembled media and cameras and said, "Let's go to the White House." Went over to the White House and I chatted with the president in the Oval Office, was just the two of us for about 15 minutes, and he said to me, "Where are the '24' people?" I said, "They're still over at the media gaggle, they're right behind me." He had a tee ball, there was a tee ball game going on in the White House grounds for some kids, and he had to be down there at one o'clock. So he had to leave at five 'til and he didn't get a chance to meet the "24" people. I am not going to divulge the contents of the discussion. These things are off the record. It was pleasant and highly informative, by the way, on a couple of things. At about five 'til one, Karl Rove walked in. That signaled the end of the meeting, and we went to his office and waited for the "24" people to show up. Then they all did, and it was time to go to the White House mess for lunch. And I just have to tell you this about Karl Rove.

Now, I've been in Karl's presence not a lot, three or four times, but never for this length of time. I can't tell you how brilliant and educated and informed the guy is. At lunch, he gave a veritable history lesson of the White House, of the White House mess, some of the characters that have worked there, some of the people that have been there 35 years in various jobs, and I notice this about people because I'm not able to do this and it's something I've always strived to be able to do. Not one stutter. I mean, he would speak for 20 minutes uninterrupted and not lose anybody's attention. Not one stutter, not one loss of his train of thought and at the same time totally captivating. Tony Snow came in, joined us for lunch. Pete Wehner, who works in Karl's office. Pete used to work for Bill Bennett, that's where I met Pete. And they came in. Of course a bunch of people heard the "24" people were there so they wanted to come in, get signed autographs and photos and stuff.

After lunch, there was a chance that there would be an opening in the president's schedule for the "24" gang to go to the Oval Office and meet him, so we repaired to two places. The first place it was Tony Snow's office and he took us in the White House pressroom, and we got Itzin up there, President Logan behind the podium with all the klieg lights on with all the "24" people in the White House pressroom in front of that White House logo with a bunch of pictures snapped. I've got some. I haven't had a chance, I had such a tremendous time in the Dominican Republic, I haven't had a chance to go through the photos and find out what we got. I just know what I took and what everybody else took. After that, after we finished in there, we went back to Rove's office for another hour, maybe -- (interruption) what are you laughing at? Oh, yeah, I had a great time at the Dominican Republic. Yeah, wish I could tell you about it. (Laughing.) Oh, it was a fabulous time in the Dominican Republic. Went over to Santiago where the Fuente cigar farm and factory are. I'll tell you about that, too, because they're doing some amazing charity things up there at the tobacco farm.

At any rate, we sat in Rove's office for two hours while he continued to work. He's got a conference table in there. You may know that he wrote a piece for TIME Magazine on the Teddy Roosevelt issue that they're doing, and he was finishing that op-ed, that 800 words, he was finishing it, and after he finished it, he gave it to Itzin and said, "Here, read this." So Itzin started reading it aloud, about 800 words. President Logan starts reading it aloud. We're in Karl Rove's office and then Karl gives us another 30 minutes on Teddy Roosevelt and President McKinley ( bio | library | memorial ), who he has admiration for, thinks he is one of the most underrated presidents in the history -- the president who modernized campaigns, modernized the presidency, and gets no credit for it because he served such a short period of time. But once again, it was just indescribable to listen to Karl Rove go on and on about the influences that these various presidents and campaigns have had on him and his explanation of history. Finally we got in the car, we're headed to the airport to go to the Dominican Republic where we really had a great time, and everybody in the room said, "You know, this is just another indictment of the media. That is one of the smartest and nicest, most unassuming, gentle people I have ever met."

A bunch of people were telling me this about Karl Rove. He is brilliant, and he has this brain that's just oozing with knowledge, and he's able to share his knowledge and his passions in a way that just keeps you spellbound without raising his voice, doesn't pound the table, doesn't get all that emotive. You're just in awe of the facts, the detail that he knows and possesses and is able to impart, again with no stutter and with no loss of his train of thought at all. So I just want to take some time here to thank Ginni and Clarence Thomas for the use of the justices dining room at the US Supreme Court. The Heritage Foundation could not have been better. It was a thrill to meet Secretary Chertoff and everybody, we ran into all kinds of people at the White House, Josh Bolten, the chief of staff, Andrew Card was there.

It was just a great, great time. We were there for three hours, from one o'clock 'til four. I was there three and a half, given my time with the president, and the whole time we were in -- after lunch we were in Karl's office and he's working, he's doing his correspondence and Pete is in there, and we're talking about issues, and as we talk about issues Karl will hear something and he would join the fray and explain something. It was just -- I mean, the opportunity you never get, and it was unexpected. To give us this much time as they did on Friday was unbelievable given how busy they all are. So thanks to everybody who made this trip what it was. It's one that none of us will ever forget.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2006/06/27/rush_visits_supreme_court_white_house_meets_with_president_bush_karl_rove

The Bush Family Calls Rush
August 01, 2008
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: What are...? (interruption) Interrupting for what?

THE PRESIDENT: Hello!

RUSH: Oh, jeez. The president?

THE PRESIDENT: Rush Limbaugh?

RUSH: Yes, sir, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: President George W. Bush calling to congratulate you on 20 years of important and excellent broadcasting.

RUSH: Well, thank you, sir. You've stunned me! (laughing) I'm shocked. But thank you so much.

THE PRESIDENT: That's hard to do.

RUSH: (laughing) I know, it is.

THE PRESIDENT: I'm here with a room full of admirers. There are two others that would like to speak to you and congratulate you, people who consider you friends and really appreciate the contribution you've made.

RUSH: Thank you, sir, very much. Put 'em on.

THE PRESIDENT: How you doing? This is my swan song? If this is all you got for me, I'm moving on.

RUSH: (laughing) No! The show's yours; take as much time as you want.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I'm just calling along with President 41 and the former governor of Florida. We're fixing to have lunch here, and I said, "Listen, we ought to call our pal and let him know that we care" for you. So this is as much as anything, a nice verbal letter to a guy we really care for.

RUSH: Well, thank you, sir, very much. I'm overwhelmed. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this and how much you've surprised me.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, that was the purpose of the phone call.

RUSH: You succeeded.

THE PRESIDENT: Good.

RUSH: They were waving at me trying to tell me you were on the line, and I didn't know what was going on. So you succeeded here in the surprise. How are you doing, sir?

THE PRESIDENT: I am great. We're doing very good, thank you very much, sir. Concerned about our economy, obviously, but know we need to be drilling for some oil and gas in order to take the pressure off the gas prices -- and I'm pleased with the progress in Iraq.

RUSH: Have you heard what Senator Obama wants to do? He wants another stimulus check of a thousand dollars to every American paid for by the oil companies.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. Well, what we ought to be doing is encouraging oil companies to find oil, and that's the best way to take the pressure off the gasoline prices. We're on a very strong push to get the Congress to allow for there to be offshore drilling, and most Americans understand now that an increase in oil, particularly here in America, will help take pressure off of price. And I tell people I'd rather, you know, be buying American oil instead of sending our money overseas.

RUSH: You know, Mr. President, it's amazing. In 2004 during your campaign, Senator Kerry was constantly criticizing you for not "jawboning" with the Saudis enough to bring the price of oil down. Now, four years later, they're doing everything they can to keep the price from coming down. They apparently want it to remain high.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, they may want to, but the American people want to see some relief. It would be like a massive tax cut when the gasoline prices decline. So we're in times of economic uncertainty and the more money people have in their pockets the quicker we'll be able to recover, in my judgment. You asked how I'm doing. My spirits are high; I'm going to finish strong. I love my family and I'm spending two days here with mother and dad before I head overseas.

RUSH: Well, that's right. You've got China on your agenda.

THE PRESIDENT: I do. But listen, President 41. You might remember him.

RUSH: I do. (laughing) Yes, I do. We all do.

THE PRESIDENT: You know what? He remembers you.

RUSH: Good.

THE PRESIDENT: Fondly, I might add. Anyway, here he is. Congratulations.

RUSH: Thank you, sir, very much, again.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, sir.

BUSH 41: Hey, Rush?

RUSH: Mr. President, sir.

BUSH 41: How are you doing?

RUSH: I am never better. I'm so glad that you three called me. I'm stunned here. It's great to hear from you.

BUSH 41: I've got some advice for you.

RUSH: Tell me.

BUSH 41: Slow down your backswing.

RUSH: (laughing)

BUSH 41: (laughing) That's what I'm doing is giving advice. I remember playing with you and enjoying it. How are you?

RUSH: I'm great.

BUSH 41: Proud of you, always.

RUSH: Well, thank you. I'm doing great. And you? You're looking well, too.

BUSH 41: Well, yeah. I'm kind of on the sidelines, but I can't do golf and all that stuff anymore. But life is good. It's wonderful, and it's great having the family up here in Maine, and all is well. Do you see our man Ailes at all?

RUSH: Oh, yeah. I saw Roger at Tony Snow's funeral.

BUSH 41: Oh, did you?

RUSH: And a couple of times earlier this summer.

BUSH 41: Are we on the radio, are we?

RUSH: (laughing)

BUSH 41: I didn't know that. I'll clean up my act here. I'm glad they told me.

RUSH: Yeah, we're on the radio.

BUSH 41: It's wonderful talking to you, I'll tell you.

RUSH: Thank you, sir. Same here.

BUSH 41: Wait a minute, Jeb -- Governor Jeb -- wants to speak to you.

RUSH: That's great.

BUSH 41: We've got the whole family lined up.

RUSH: Put him on.

BUSH 41: All Limbaugh fans. Just a sec. Here.

JEB: Hey, Rush, congratulations on your longevity.

RUSH: Thank you, sir, very much. This is a thrill.

JEB: One of the highlights, one of the great things about your show is it's broadcast in the Sunshine State, for which a whole lot of Floridians are very grateful, including me.

RUSH: It's a great place to live, governor. It really is, as you well know.

JEB: We've got a few challenges, but it's not a bad place at all.

RUSH: What's your future? What are you going to do?

JEB: I'm staying below the radar. That's what I'm doing. I love policy, and I have an education policy to try to help folks that are running for office be bold on education reform, which I think is a huge challenge and a great opportunity for our country. So my political stuff is really focused on that, which I love.

RUSH: Well, good. Keep at it, because if there's something that needs reform in this country, it's certainly that.

JEB: Absolutely.

RUSH: Particularly public education. Well, thank you guys so much. This is unexpected and a real honor for me to hear from all of you guys at the same time.

JEB: All right. Take care.

RUSH: Thanks, sir, very much.

JEB: Bye-bye.

RUSH: Wow. And as I was saying... As I was saying... (laughing) Anyway, we gotta go to commercial break. See, folks, I got a note from a friend -- a little instant message flash -- right before the program started that said, "You're going to have so much fun this afternoon."

I said, "Yeah. The thing is, I'm sure there are going to be lots of surprises, and I don't know what they are, and they always make me nervous."

When they were waving their arms, they had given me a written note on the computer monitor here: "President's on the line! President's on the line!" and I was looking at my story here talking about Obama and his stupid idiot idea for Big Oil to give everybody a check for a thousand bucks. Then, finally, Brian starts waving his arms and so forth, and that's when I noticed it. So we're off to a rousing start. Who knows what's coming? Certainly I don't.

END TRANSCRIPT

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/08/01/the_bush_family_calls_rush2

One man's hack is another man's entertainer...

What is the point of your argument you are trying to bait us with that I seem to be missing? I am happy to argue with you but need your help to understand what the argument is about?

There is no "argument." Liberals, Democrats, Obama, Stewart, anyone remotely on the Left, are low-info idiot traitors and are the cause of everything that is wrong with our country, and the country needs to be taken back from these very people. The tragedy of it all is that the good people on the Right have nothing to do with anything that is wrong with, well, anything.

Different variations, always the same theme.

What is the point of your argument you are trying to bait us with that I seem to be missing? I am happy to argue with you but need your help to understand what the argument is about?

There is no "argument." Liberals, Democrats, Obama, Stewart, anyone remotely on the Left, are low-info idiot traitors and are the cause of everything that is wrong with our country, and the country needs to be taken back from these very people. The tragedy of it all is that the good people on the Right have nothing to do with anything that is wrong with, well, anything.

Different variations, always the same theme.

You know me I am up for a good argument but we actually agree with him that Stewart is not non partisan so I am at a loss what he is ranting on about?

That's some excellent research there Bhawk! I'm impressed. Is Rush a comedian?

So staffers like Axelrod were in frequent contact with Stewart to help him write his comedy sketches? Sure. That's really neat, but is that what you want them doing?

In general, the optimal situation for the public is for the media and the government to be like oil and water, a relationship bordering on adversarial.

Alloak I agree that the government and the media should be adversarial. I watched Stewart interviewing Obama and there were times he was certainly adversarial. More adversarial than I've seen Andrea Mitchell or Chris Matthews be. Do you know that Andrea Mitchell is considered a social butterfly in DC? She has huge parties with guests from Congress, the Supreme Court, and members of the media where they all get together to drink and laugh and feast. Boehner, McConnell and his wife, Elaine Chou, are also big on the party circuit.

My post about the Pentagon's influence over the media should get everyone pause concerning the propaganda tactics of our government.

I don't understand what you are accusing John Stewart, or the White House of actually doing. There is no evidence that Stewart changed any jokes, or wrote any skits in order to help promote White House policy.

Have you watched Stewart's response to the "controversy"?

DougMac, a few weeks ago you claim you never insult anyone to prove your point. Now you throw out the troll word. Get off your high horse bro. It's easy to play Monday morning QB when you refuse to ever say anything edgy ever. Just keep playing it safe on this site so you can appear to be holier than thou, if that's who you wish to be.

I thought "Troll" was someone who uses provocative language to illicit a response and/or inflame an audience.

I didn't realize it was a slur.

I might be guilty of using the word in an unseemly manner. I apologize now for my reprehensible behavior.

It's about what many or most of his followers DON'T know. They take him seriously and believe he's a serious newsman.

Wait, what? His "followers"? Like a cult or something? And they believe he is a serious newsman? Like Walter Cronkite? You're talking about Jon Stewart? From Comedy Central?

The funny thing looking through this thread is that every single liberal on this board admits that Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are partisan liberals, yet those on the right have a hard time admitting that Fox News is partisan right wing propaganda.

The tragedy of it all is that the good people on the Right have nothing to do with anything that is wrong with, well, anything.

Talk about the twilight zone. How he comes up with this over and over is beyond imagination. NOTHING is ever the Democrats fault. NOTHING. Somebody provide an example that disproves this statement. Good luck.

[Edited on 7/31/2015 by alloak41]

It's about what many or most of his followers DON'T know. They take him seriously and believe he's a serious newsman.

Wait, what? His "followers"? Like a cult or something? And they believe he is a serious newsman? Like Walter Cronkite? You're talking about Jon Stewart? From Comedy Central?

Cronkite you say...

http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/09/media/jon-stewart-opinion/index.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/who-is-the-walter-cronkit_b_636877.html

NOTHING is ever the Democrats fault. NOTHING. Somebody provide and example that disproves this statement. Good luck.

Are you effing kidding? How many threads have been devoted to how Obama and/or Hillary and/or Eric Holder and/or Democrat Mayors have destroyed the world/country/cities?

[Edited on 7/31/2015 by BillyBlastoff]