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Joe Biden Said to Be Taking New Look at Presidential Run

bob1954 · 2015-08-01T15:52:45Z

From today's NY Times: Joe Biden Said to Be Taking New Look at Presidential Run By AMY CHOZICKAUG. 1, 2015 Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his associates have begun to actively explore a possible presidential campaign, an entry that would upend the Democratic field and deliver a direct threat to Hillary Rodham Clinton, say several people who have spoken to Mr. Biden or his closest advisers. Mr. Biden’s advisers have started to reach out to Democratic leaders and donors who have not yet committed to Mrs. Clinton or who have grown concerned about what they see as her increasingly visible vulnerabilities as a candidate. The conversations, often fielded by Mr. Biden’s chief of staff, Steve Ricchetti, have taken place in hushed phone calls and over quiet lunches. In most cases they have grown out of an outpouring of sympathy for the vice president since the death of his 46-year-old son, Beau, in May. There were talks this year that Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., at the National Defense University in Washington in April, could be preparing to run for president. Friends now say that he is focusing on his family. One longtime Biden supporter said the vice president has been deeply moved by his son’s desire for him to run. “He was so close to Beau and it was so heartbreaking that, frankly, I thought initially he wouldn’t have the heart,” Michael Thornton, a Boston lawyer who is a Biden supporter, said in an interview. “But I’ve had indications that maybe he does want to — and ‘that’s what Beau would have wanted me to do.’ ” Mr. Biden’s path, should he decide to run, would not be easy. Mrs. Clinton has enormous support among Democrats inspired by the idea of electing a woman as president and her campaign has already raised millions of dollars. Mr. Biden, who is 72, has in the past proven prone to embarrassing gaffes on the campaign trail, and he would also face the critical task of building a field operation. One Democrat with direct knowledge of the conversations described the outreach as a heady combination of donors and friends of Mr. Biden’s wanting to prop up the vice president in his darkest hours, combined with recent polls showing Mrs. Clinton’s support declining, suggesting there could be a path to the nomination for the vice president. Ms. Dowd reported that as Beau Biden lay dying, he “tried to make his father promise to run, arguing that the White House should not revert to the Clintons and that the country would be better off with Biden values.” Mr. Biden’s other son, Hunter, also encouraged him to run, she wrote. “The reality is it’s going to be a tough, even-Steven kind of race, and there’s that moment when a lot of party establishment would start exactly this kind of rumble: ‘Is there anybody else?’ ” said Joe Trippi, a Democratic strategist. At the same time, the slow trickle of news about Mrs. Clinton’s use of private email when she was secretary of state and the coming Benghazi hearings may be distracting some voters from the core message of her campaign: the need to lift the middle class. “It’s not that we dislike Hillary, it’s that we want to win the White House,” said Richard A. Harpootlian, a lawyer and Democratic donor in Columbia, S.C. who met with Mr. Ricchetti before Beau Biden died. “We have a better chance of doing that with somebody who is not going to have all the distractions of a Clinton campaign.” A spokeswoman for the Clinton campaign declined to comment. In a July 30 Quinnipiac poll, 57 percent of voters said Mrs. Clinton was not honest and trustworthy and 52 percent said she did not care about their needs or problems. The same poll showed Mr. Biden with his highest favorability rating — 49 percent — in seven years, with 58 percent saying he is honest and trustworthy and 57 percent saying he cares about them. But Mrs. Clinton’s numbers are still strong, especially among likely Democratic primary voters. “The No. 1 thing voters want is a candidate who is honest and trustworthy, and the veep is leading in those polls,” said William Pierce, executive director of Draft Biden, a “super PAC” that is trying to build enthusiasm for his possible candidacy. Mr. Biden could still decide not to run. Confidants say that he has not made up his mind, but that they expect him to make something official by the end of the summer or early September. Other than by not ruling out a run and by holding preliminary meetings, Mr. Biden has not openly fueled the speculation about his candidacy. As of Saturday he had no trips planned to Iowa or New Hampshire in the coming weeks. But an intermediary recruited by the vice president’s office has been in touch with potential staffers who have not yet signed on to the Clinton campaign. Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Mr. Biden, said, “As the Biden family continues to go through this difficult time, the vice president is focused on his family and immersed in his work.” A 2016 campaign would be the third time Mr. Biden, a longtime senator from Delawar...

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I've never thought Biden to be an idiot, ever.

He is far from being an idiot. He is an intelligent and savvy politician. The fact that he is comes across as a likable ordinary guy gives some folks the false impression that he is not a shrewd politician who knows how things work and how to get things done.

Posted : August 27, 2015 12:13 pm

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I've never thought Biden to be an idiot, ever.

Nor have I. Some folks like to joke about his gaffes (me for instance), but joking aside he's got the credentials and you can't deny that. He seems like a good man as well. He's got the likeability factor in his favor, which is the most important attribute of all IMO.

Not that I would like to see him win, though. I won't go that far. But he deserves a chance because I think Hillary Clinton is rotten to the core.

Posted : August 27, 2015 12:14 pm

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"Joe Biden Said to Be Taking New Look at Presidential Run"

Is this a Joke?

Posted : August 27, 2015 12:24 pm

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"Joe Biden Said to Be Taking New Look at Presidential Run"

Is this a Joke?

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The debate between Hillary and Joe Biden would be worth the free ticket.
That is assuming of course Hillary isn't indicted by then.

Posted : August 27, 2015 2:00 pm

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