I can walk faster than that guy was running. Why didn't the cop chase him, like 99.99 per cent of cops would do?
that was my first thought seeing that video.
I can walk faster than that guy was running.
At your age? 😮
I can walk faster than that guy was running.
At your age? 😮
for three minutes or so...sure. 😛
Much more information is needed to form any objective opinion.
1.) The interaction between the police officer and the suspect is unknown
2.) The video source is anonymous
3.) Why did the suspect run away from the police officer?
4.) The suspect tried to grab the police officers stun gun
5.) There was a warrant for the arrest of the suspect
6.) The suspect had a history of violence
7.) The local newspaper article does not state the high black crime rate in North Charleston
8.) The local newspaper article does note the racial problems in the community and quotes the NAACP, well known for their hatred of the police.
9.) The local newspaper article mentions the Ferguson incident but not the fact that Officer Wilson was found to have done nothing wrong.Anytime Al Sharpton’s National Action Network is involved everything is suspect.
I have now come to the conclusion that you are an idiot beyond repair. Anyone who would defend the cop after seeing that video needs serious mental testing.
There is no defending it. This appears to be a case of open and shut murder. I think that the forensics will back up that the cop was lying even if there were no video. It is to be distinguished from the vast majority of other police shootings, including the one in Ferguson which turn out to be justified.
Much more information is needed to form any objective opinion.
1.) The interaction between the police officer and the suspect is unknown
2.) The video source is anonymous
3.) Why did the suspect run away from the police officer?
4.) The suspect tried to grab the police officers stun gun
5.) There was a warrant for the arrest of the suspect
6.) The suspect had a history of violence
7.) The local newspaper article does not state the high black crime rate in North Charleston
8.) The local newspaper article does note the racial problems in the community and quotes the NAACP, well known for their hatred of the police.
9.) The local newspaper article mentions the Ferguson incident but not the fact that Officer Wilson was found to have done nothing wrong.Anytime Al Sharpton’s National Action Network is involved everything is suspect.
Wott did I tell you???
muledouche rides to the rescue of a cop who executes a citizen.
Thanks for making my original point.
You are a disgrace.
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Ron your really are a dumb fuck.
I did not take any position, I simply pointed out the many unanswered questions involved.
You on the other hand immediately labeled the Police Office as an asshole.
You are the asshole.
The cop is a criminal scum bag and a coward to boot and I have no problem saying that. He doesn't even need a trial with that video. Lock him up in general population and let's see how brave he is then!!!
There's nothing to protest. He was charged with murder and will hopefully be convicted.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------There wasn't anything to protest last time either, apparently.
I would think this is the time to assemble nationwide protests against police brutality, racism, etc. You know, with a real current event to back it up. Not the vapor that was Ferguson.
The lasting effect of the Ferguson protests were minified because they were based on a ruse.
Were you there to see what happened? I'm not saying he should've been charged since there wasn't any concrete evidence, but it's foolish to assume that either of us know what actually happened. There were many conflicting eye witness reports. A lack of evidence doesn't disprove the other side. There's a difference between being unable to prove, and to disprove a claim.
Are you talking about Fergeson? I don't get you. The officer was entirely exonerated. The lying witnesses were discredited. His story was entirely supported by all the evidence. We weren't there so we dont' know what happened? Is that the standard you use? Then no one would ever be convicted of anything. That's not how our system works. It is based on evidence which supports the charge beyond a reasonable doubt. Int he case of Officer Wilson, not only was there a reasonable doubt, his innocence has been rpoven beyond a reasonable doubt.
There is no defending it. This appears to be a case of open and shut murder. I think that the forensics will back up that the cop was lying even if there were no video. It is to be distinguished from the vast majority of other police shootings, including the one in Ferguson which turn out to be justified.
If there were no video the coward cop might have very well gotten away with it even with forensics as he wouldn't have been caught trying to plant his taser next to the victim to make it look like he took it from the cop. Thank God someone was videotaping this when it happened.
Doug, I'm glad he was exonerated. I support that. Serious question....was it proven that he acted within the law, or was there a lack of evidence to prove guilt? Either way, I wouldn't want the cop charged and convicted, but I just have a hard time morally justifying the incident since the victim was unarmed. It may have been legal, but I believe he could've apprehended him without killing him. If the law justifies his actions, then I think the law is flawed.
Nope, not dismissing it, which is why I support his exoneration. I think he could've apprehended him without killing him since he was unarmed.
Guess I'm ignorant then. I'm not muleman, don't think you can talk to me like that and expect any more of my time.
Sensitive much? Sheesh.
I can't be the only one to see postings by BoytonBrother and PerryBoynton and (WRONGLY) assumed you two were brothers or something, ha, sorry to sidetrack the WP.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who gets confused when both of them are in the same thread.
I was thinking "did BB really say that?" sure didn't sound like anything he'd say.
Where was he going to go?
They have his car, they know who he is, where he lives, etc.
Let him run away, arrest him at his home.
Nah, eight shots to the back would be easy and quicker, probably less paperwork to fill out.
They are somehow justifying the whole thing to some degree by retroactively applying evidence of racism in Ferguson PD that was discovered long after half the nation reacted in protest without considering the evidence first.
Explain that.
Observation does not equal even an implied justification. I'm from KC. I've never been to Ferguson proper, but I've been in and around St. Louis countless times. There's always been some sort of tension there. Why that is in some places rather than others is probably a separate topic. Anyway, certainly, yes, many outsiders flocked to Ferguson and made it worse. However, in my opinion, that in no way denigrates the feelings and reactions of the people that actually live there. I can observe and understand the reasons behind social unrest without justifying it.
These situations with law enforcement and the citizenry seem to be instantly defined by who gets the benefit of the doubt.
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Serious question about Ferguson (I don't remember the details), what evidence was there that his life was truly in danger?
Everything The Police Said About Walter Scott’s Death Before A Video Showed What Really Happened
BY JUDD LEGUM POSTED ON APRIL 7, 2015 AT 9:43 PM UPDATED: APRIL 8, 2015 AT 6:51 AMOn Tuesday, South Carolina police officer Michael Thomas Slager was charged with first-degree murder for the shooting death of Walter Scott. Charges against South Carolina police officers for shooting someone are extremely rare. But what was particularly remarkable in this case was, for at least two days, Slager was apparently unaware that video of the entire incident existed.
This provides a unique opportunity to observe how one police officer sought to avoid accountability for his actions.
Between the time when he shot and killed Scott early Saturday morning and when charges were filed, Slager — using the both the police department and his attorney — was able to provide his “version” of the events. He appeared well on his way to avoiding charges and pinning the blame on Scott.
Then a video, shot by an anonymous bystander, revealed exactly what happened.
On Saturday the police released a statement alleging that Scott had attempted to gain control of a Taser from Slager and that he was shot in a struggle over the weapon.The Post And Courier reported the initial story:
Police in a matter of hours declared the occurrence at the corner of Remount and Craig roads a traffic stop gone wrong, alleging the dead man fought with an officer over his Taser before deadly force was employed.
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A statement released by North Charleston police spokesman Spencer Pryor said a man ran on foot from the traffic stop and an officer deployed his department-issued Taser in an attempt to stop him.That did not work, police said, and an altercation ensued as the men struggled over the device. Police allege that during the struggle the man gained control of the Taser and attempted to use it against the officer.
The officer then resorted to his service weapon and shot him, police alleged.
The story clearly came from Slager but he was able to use the authoritative voice of the police department to bolster his narrative. Meanwhile, Scott could only be defended by friends who did not witness the incident. “Walter was a nice, good, honest person… He was a grown man working hard to take care of his family,” said Samuel Scott, the victim’s cousin.
By Sunday, the police department had clammed up and refused to release any additional information about the events. (It’s unclear when the department became aware of the existence of the video.)
On Monday, Slager sought to reinforce his narrative, this time releasing a statement through his attorney. From The Post And Courier:
Slager thinks he properly followed all procedures and policies before resorting to deadly force, lawyer David Aylor said in a statement.
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“When confronted, Officer Slager reached for his Taser — as trained by the department — and then a struggle ensued,” Aylor said. “The driver tried to overpower Officer Slager in an effort to take his Taser.”Seconds later, the report added, he radioed that the suspect wrested control of the device. Even with the Taser’s prongs deployed, the device can still be used as a stun gun to temporarily incapacitate someone.
Slager “felt threatened and reached for his department-issued firearm and fired his weapon,” his attorney added.
If the video had not surfaced, that’s where the story might have ended. In nearly all cases where an officer fires a weapon, that is the end of the story. A study by The State found “
olice in South Carolina have fired their weapons at 209 suspects in the past five years” but none were convicted. “We ruled all the shootings were justified – and we looked at dozens and dozens of them,” one former prosecutor told The State.In this case, the video revealed a very different scenario. Scott, who was unarmed and fleeing, was shot in the back by Slager from a distance of at least 15 feet. After Scott was fatally shot, the video appears to capture Slager planting an object next to Scott.
i just saw an interview with the young man who witnessed the shooting and recorded it. i was really impressed with how he handled the situation. a dominican immigrant, went to the police....not the press. i hope he can handle the spotlight about to be shown upon him.
i wonder if someone will start a gofundme site for him. this is an upstanding young man who deserves it.
i just saw an interview with the young man who witnessed the shooting and recorded it. i was really impressed with how he handled the situation. a dominican immigrant, went to the police....not the press. i hope he can handle the spotlight about to be shown upon him.
i wonder if someone will start a gofundme site for him. this is an upstanding young man who deserves it.
Only if he refuses to video gays being killed.
i just saw an interview with the young man who witnessed the shooting and recorded it. i was really impressed with how he handled the situation. a dominican immigrant, went to the police....not the press. i hope he can handle the spotlight about to be shown upon him.
i wonder if someone will start a gofundme site for him. this is an upstanding young man who deserves it.
Can you post the link about this man? I would love to share this with my Dominican girlfriend.
it was on chris hayes tonight
16 mins long
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thanks! I saw this today too.
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Incredible interview. What a brave young man. It made me ashamed when he said that Hispanics like him look up to the United States, and things like this disappoint them. I understand completely, and I'm sorry. What a tragedy all around. So many lives ruined...the victim, the victim's family, the officer who will rot in prison, the officer's family. All for one foolish horrific decision.
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In Ferguson, the man shot (justifiably) family asked people to not make the incident a racial matter.
Didn’t work.
The hate groups, liberals and media made it a racial matter and worked it for all they could get out of it.
The result was riots, looting and people we hurt and property destroyed.
In the North Charleston case, the family is asking everyone to not make this a racial issue.
Again, the hate groups, liberals and media are running off at the mouth about race.
It would seem that the hate groups, liberals and media have their own agenda and don’t care what the families want.
Of course on an average day in America more than a dozen black people are murdered by other black people. The hate groups, liberals and media don’t mention it.
You're an idiot. Shut up.
You're an idiot. Shut up.
People are thinking "wow, this doesn't sound like something PerryBoynton would say at all"...
You're right.
And so is BB.
I apologize for losing my temper. He just brings it out in me.
that pic a few posts up.
cripes, it makes me sick.
not on you, BB...but that cop. geez, it looks like target practice.
that's some disgusting stuff right there.
Okay, it would seem the liberals here want this to be a racial matter.
Then why won’t the liberals even discuss the roots of the racial issues?
Based on many posts here, the liberals have no opinion, much less solutions.
Could it be that liberals use race as a political tool to garner votes and therefore want the racial angst to continue?
Okay, it would seem the liberals here want this to be a racial matter.
Then why won’t the liberals even discuss the roots of the racial issues?Based on many posts here, the liberals have no opinion, much less solutions.
Could it be that liberals use race as a political tool to garner votes and therefore want the racial angst to continue?
I'm as conservative a man as you'll find.
and as a Christian and the way I was raised, my concern for color is non-existent.
drop the "liberal" shtick, it's getting old. 
Okay, it would seem the liberals here want this to be a racial matter.
Then why won’t the liberals even discuss the roots of the racial issues?Based on many posts here, the liberals have no opinion, much less solutions.
Could it be that liberals use race as a political tool to garner votes and therefore want the racial angst to continue?
I'm as conservative a man as you'll find.
and as a Christian and the way I was raised, my concern for color is non-existent.
drop the "liberal" shtick, it's getting old.
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Not a chance.
The liberals have been using black people for selfish political purposes for decades and the result for the black people is more poverty and an inferior standard of living.
Under Obama, more blacks live in poverty and fewer have jobs.
The liberals have earned their label.
I believe it was definitely racial. The way I see it, he would not have been shot if it was a white guy. Just my opinion.
