The partisan witch hunt victim approach is done. Lying her way out of it fell flat.
Trying to joke her way out of it appears futile.Eventually Hillary will 1) plead ignorance, or 2) start blaming the whole thing on
staffers. Probably both.What will come of it????.................NOTHING
Your probably right. She can plead ignorance and blame staffers all she wants, but
after being caught in a tangled web of lies already, what objective person is going to
buy it? She only looks worse if that's possible.
Let's not take objectivity for granted. At this point in the tribalism of American politics, the diehards on both sides of the fence are going to vote for their team no matter what and no matter who.
Hillary, Trump, anyone can get ousted in the primaries, sure. In the general? It's all about red and blue, just gotta get enough people to show up in the right places to vote for the team.
Let's not take objectivity for granted. At this point in the tribalism of American politics, the diehards on both sides of the fence are going to vote for their team no matter what and no matter who.
Hillary, Trump, anyone can get ousted in the primaries, sure. In the general? It's all about red and blue, just gotta get enough people to show up in the right places to vote for the team.
That's why it's starting to appear that candidates that don't necessarily belong to a tribe seem to
be appealing. A Carson or Trump will attract votes from both tribes. Maybe it's just wishful
thinking, but perhaps the days of non-politicians in politics are dawning. I've been waiting for
that. Both tribes have one thing in common, they are sick to death of phony lying politicians.
[Edited on 8/21/2015 by alloak41]
Let's not take objectivity for granted. At this point in the tribalism of American politics, the diehards on both sides of the fence are going to vote for their team no matter what and no matter who.
Hillary, Trump, anyone can get ousted in the primaries, sure. In the general? It's all about red and blue, just gotta get enough people to show up in the right places to vote for the team.
That's why it's starting to appear that candidates that don't necessarily belong to a tribe seem to
be appealing. A Carson or Trump will attract votes from both tribes. Perhaps it's just wishful
thinking, but perhaps the days of non-politicians in politics are dawning. I've been waiting for
that. Both tribes have one thing in common, they are sick to death of phony lying politicians.
IMO, that paradigm will never break until the non-politicians run independent. Trump is still running as a Republican. Eventually, all of the things that get hung on Republicans will get hung on him. One of the truly wrong things about a strict two-party system is that sooner or later, everyone will become a lying hypocrite. The dual nature (plus the tribalism) demands it.
I think it's a good idea to keep in mind that the Iowa caucus is five months away, Super Tuesday six months away. Still a lot of time.
Another thing about non-politicians...Congress is still full of politicians. Let's say that Trump gets elected President. What happens when he actually gets to Washington? EVERY Presidential candidate, EVERY President-elect says that when they get there, they are going to change things. But, then they get there...
I know this thread is about Hillary, but as an aside, I wonder what Trump's answer will be when someone asks him the Most Obvious Question Ever about that hat he wears.
For whomever asks that question, there will be hell toupee'
Megyn Kelly already asked him about his hair.
Just saw another reference to her AWEFUL "Did I wipe it with a cloth?" bulls*t and had to vent.
What the f*ck is wrong with her? Even if you are a hardcore supporter of Hillary Clinton that comment perfectly distills exactly the kind of attitude she exudes and why she is never going to win a presidential election. What an entitled, condescending, transparently corrupt, sociopathic b*tch. She is basically flaunting the fact that she among those who are above the law, doesn't give two cents about the citizens she "represents" and is giving Americans the finger, laughing at them and saying "you stupid a$$holes are going to vote for me anyway." Does she seriously want to be elected president? Because that performance is sure-fire way to sink any chance she has.
[Edited on 8/22/2015 by axeman]
Megyn Kelly already asked him about his hair.
LOL, I wan't referring to his hair. I think making fun of his hair is silly, juvenile and adds nothing to the discourse.
The question is about the hat.
America isn't great?
Just saw another reference to her AWEFUL "Did I wipe it with a cloth?" bulls*t and had to vent.
What the f*ck is wrong with her? Even if you are a hardcore supporter of Hillary Clinton that comment perfectly distills exactly the kind of attitude she exudes and why she is never going to win a presidential election. What an entitled, condescending, transparently corrupt, sociopathic b*tch. She is basically flaunting the fact that she among those who are above the law, doesn't give two cents about the citizens she "represents" and is giving Americans the finger, laughing at them and saying "you stupid a$$holes are going to vote for me anyway." Does she seriously want to be elected president? Because that performance is sure-fire way to sink any chance she has.
[Edited on 8/22/2015 by axeman]
I couldn't agree more. But I have given up hope that the American public has the ability or the desire to see through this.
She really is expecting a coronation aided by the media.
Corruption in the Obama administration continues to come to light:
KENNEDY HAS AN EMAIL ISSUE
Ambassador used private account for official business, watchdog says
AN INTERNAL WATCHDOG REPORT says Ambassador Caroline Kennedy and senior staff at the US embassy in Japan used personal email accounts for official business – making Kennedy the latest Obama administration official to run afoul of email security guidelines.
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IRS reveals existence of another Lois Lerner email account
The IRS admitted to a federal court there was a second personal email account that Lois Lerner, the official at the heart of the Tea Party targeting scandal, used to conduct agency business.
Doesn't the NSA have copies of all these emails anyway??
Let's just call up the NSA and see EXACTLY what was on there and what wasn't already! This whole thing could be over in a week!
Doesn't the NSA have copies of all these emails anyway??
Let's just call up the NSA and see EXACTLY what was on there and what wasn't already! This whole thing could be over in a week!
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Obama hasn't figured that out yet.
He is waiting for Joe Biden to announce before he cuts loose on Hillary.
Doesn't the NSA have copies of all these emails anyway??
Let's just call up the NSA and see EXACTLY what was on there and what wasn't already! This whole thing could be over in a week!
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Obama hasn't figured that out yet.
He is waiting for Joe Biden to announce before he cuts loose on Hillary.
Wouldn't Google have copies?
mule dude, i'm not attacking you or mad at you.
i'm pretty sure has been reported alot that having a private server wasn't illegal until after she left office
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FBI Director James Comey confirmed Monday that the law prohibiting the private email server being used for official government business has been in place since 2009.
I'm just glad to be a spectator in this one.
It is coming down to an Obama administration vs. Hillary deal.At least Bernie Sanders is smiling.
It makes no sense for Obama to be the one covertly spearheading a campaign against Hillary since they are both Democrats. He is a two term incumbent President, he can't stay there for another term, so why would he care? If he is the one leading the campaign, maybe all is not what it seems.
What if this campaign keeps Hillary in the news, she gets vindicated, the whole nation would be Hillary conscious and want to support her just because the others were trying to go against her. A Presidential bid psy-op, garners public sympathy for her and rallies a nation around her, because we all know the govt. lied to us about Benghazi and that was NOT her fault. Hey it's possible!
DISLIKE FOR HILLARY INTENSIFIES
Hillary Clinton’s lead in the Democratic nominating contest keeps on sliding and a new poll today from Quinnipiac University shows the trend is intensifying. Clinton’s lead over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is down 15 points from last month.
While she might not have to worry too much about Sanders given her 23-point advantage, her 10 point slip from July seems largely attributable to increasing interest in Vice President Joe Biden, who is mulling a campaign.
The best selling point for Biden backers: Clinton runs considerably worse in head-to-head matchups with potential Republican opponents than Biden. She runs 4 points ahead of GOP frontrunner Donald Trump, while Biden doubles that. Even socialist Sanders beats Jeb Bush by more than Clinton.
And surely by now you know the reason why.
Views of Clinton have turned intensely sour in recent weeks as her ongoing email scandal has left her and her campaign in a defensive crouch. Clinton’s net favorability rating among all voters – a more valuable general election metric in the early going than horse-race numbers – is now a dreadful negative 12 points. That puts her in the same neighborhood as Rick Santorum and Martin O’Malley. Probably not the company she expected to be keeping just now.
Hillary could be "vindicated" but what would it matter? Her supporters still don't think she did anything wrong.
And who tells 47 lies on the way to being vindicated, who's going to believe it? All this would do is make the system look even more corrupt.
Hillary Clinton Hits Lows on Favorability, Trustworthiness in Poll
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/08/27/clinton-hits-lows-on-favorability-trustworthiness-in-poll/
A Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday shows Hillary Clinton hitting new lows on measures of honesty, favorability and trustworthiness, the latest evidence of Democratic frontrunner slipping in the polls.
The Quinnipiac poll found that 51% of voters have an unfavorable impression of her, her worst score ever on that measure. The poll also found that 61% of voters say she is not honest and trustworthy, another record low. On the honest and trustworthy question, that is up from 57% in a July Quinnipiac poll.
Her slide in the polls comes as the controversy over her use of private email continues in Washington. Investigators with the FBI took possession of her private server this month, though Department of Justice officials say she isn’t the target of the probe.
Multiple lawsuits against the State Department over access to her office’s records have also been working their way through the courts, with one federal judge recently concluding Mrs. Clinton didn’t follow policy on email.
In an open-ended question to voters, “liar” is the first word that comes to mind when asked about Mrs. Clinton. Other top word associations with Mrs. Clinton include “dishonest” and “untrustworthy.”
As Mrs. Clinton has struggled, Vice President Joe Biden is considering a late entry into the presidential field. Quinnipiac’s new poll shows that Mr. Biden has very high favorability numbers and an advantage in the general election against three Republican contenders.
The latest Quinnipiac University survey shows Mr. Biden leading Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and Donald Trump by 3 points, 6 points and 8 points, respectively. Those margins exceed Mrs. Clinton’s against the same three contenders.
Mrs. Clinton leads Mr. Rubio by one point, 44% to 43%. She beats Mr. Bush by two points, edging him 42% to 40%. And she beats Mr. Trump in a head-to-head matchup 45% to 41%.
Mr. Biden currently has the highest favorability numbers of any candidate the poll tested. Quinnipiac finds that 48% of voters have a favorable impression of Mr. Biden, while 39% do not.
Mrs. Clinton still has a commanding lead in the Democratic primary field, though she no longer has the majority support of Democrats. She leads the field with 45%, while Mr. Biden is drawing 18%. Sen. Bernie Sanders draws 22%. In Quinnipiac’s July survey, Mrs. Clinton was drawing 55% support in a Democratic primary — a drop of 10% support in just a few weeks.
Quinnipiac surveyed just over 1,500 voters between August 20 and 25, giving the survey a margin of error of plus or minus 3.9%.
Two top Democratic candidates in the 2016 White House race suggested Friday night that party leaders have rigged the debate schedule in favor of frontrunner Hillary Clinton.
“Only four debates … before voters in our earliest states make their decision,” Martin O’Malley, a former Maryland governor, said at the Democratic National Committee’s summer meeting in Minneapolis. “This sort of rigged process has never been attempted before.”
O’Malley is particularly concerned about the party having just one sanctioned debate each in Iowa and New Hampshire, the first two states in which primary votes are cast.
“That’s all we can afford?” O’Malley asked. “Is this how the Democratic Party selects its nominee?”
O’Malley also claims climate change is the cause of the rise of ISIS so he may not be the best source of intelligent thought.
Of course with Hillary Clinton’s legal problems this could all end up a moot point. The DNC will decide who will be their party’s nominee using backroom deals and heavy handed tactics and showing the democrat party voters the back of their hand.
Two top Democratic candidates in the 2016 White House race suggested Friday night that party leaders have rigged the debate schedule in favor of frontrunner Hillary Clinton.
“Only four debates … before voters in our earliest states make their decision,” Martin O’Malley, a former Maryland governor, said at the Democratic National Committee’s summer meeting in Minneapolis. “This sort of rigged process has never been attempted before.”
O’Malley is particularly concerned about the party having just one sanctioned debate each in Iowa and New Hampshire, the first two states in which primary votes are cast.
“That’s all we can afford?” O’Malley asked. “Is this how the Democratic Party selects its nominee?”
O’Malley also claims climate change is the cause of the rise of ISIS so he may not be the best source of intelligent thought.
Of course with Hillary Clinton’s legal problems this could all end up a moot point. The DNC will decide who will be their party’s nominee using backroom deals and heavy handed tactics and showing the democrat party voters the back of their hand.
But,If the presidential election was held today, hillary would STILL win in a landslide. 😛 nobody in the republican clown car would come close. 😛
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Oh great. Hillary would become the first president prep-walked out of The White House.
Well pops, the election isn't today leaving plenty of time for the FBI to complete their criminal investigation.
Pops has yet another vapor post.
Nothing there.
Enlighten yourself son:
The section of the Espionage Act is known as 18 US Code 793.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
[Edited on 8/29/2015 by Muleman1994]
Pops has yet another vapor post.
Nothing there.Enlighten yourself son:
The section of the Espionage Act is known as 18 US Code 793.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793[Edited on 8/29/2015 by Muleman1994]
maybe YOU [fredneck fats] will be investigated for selling pirated Govt. Mule recordings on e-bay and flee markets in fredneck md. son
[Edited on 8/31/2015 by pops42]
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Oh please do pops.
It'll be fun to watch you make an a$$ out of yourself yet again.
Nothing wrong with pleading the 5th, it is after all - all of ours right.
Whether you agree with his policy positions or not, I would hope that his behavior as a politician is something that we could all agree upon.
I guess I can wait until MSNBC hosts several democratic candidate debates to see how other contenders feel about this issue. Oh, wait, msnbc is not having any debates, I guess that's what Hillary wants .
Never mind..
