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I don't hear a single Republican running on their own record or their own vision of America.I only hear a solid drum beat of "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary."
I haven't heard any of them say that.
Are you kidding? I've heard all kinds of speeches from the candidates imploring the voters to "stop Hillary."
If it is not said outright it is inferred.
Wasn't that the whole purpose of you beginning this tread alloak? You have no promising Republican to back. Ben Carson is out. Who can you look at on the Republican side, point to their record and their character, and make the case that I should vote for that person?
Make the case. It won't take me anytime to shed doubt on that person's character.
C'mob Glass House. Throw your stone. The Republicans all kinds of crap. What have the Republicans of my lifetime done? Increased the debt and marched to war. All while cutting taxes on the rich and increasing taxes on my friend alloak.
Who for some reason wants more of the same treatment.
Alloak, you are so transparent. You should be able to see that it's easy to denigrate anyone in this world if you investigate them enough, especially politicians... You can find dirt anywhere you look - it's your choice to only look for it on the left.
"They all do it" or "everybody does it," take your choice. My fault, I forgot. That excuses anything.
That's not what he said at all.
Yeah, you can find dirt anywhere you look.
Alloak, you are so transparent. You should be able to see that it's easy to denigrate anyone in this world if you investigate them enough, especially politicians... You can find dirt anywhere you look - it's your choice to only look for it on the left.
"They all do it" or "everybody does it," take your choice. My fault, I forgot. That excuses anything.
That's not what he said at all.
Yeah, you can find dirt anywhere you look.
What he said is that nobody can stand up to scrutiny and be 100% untainted. The nature of politics prevents that. Nowwhere did he say anything near "everybody does it".
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I don't hear a single Republican running on their own record or their own vision of America.I only hear a solid drum beat of "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary."
I haven't heard any of them say that.
Are you kidding? I've heard all kinds of speeches from the candidates imploring the voters to "stop Hillary."
If it is not said outright it is inferred.
Wasn't that the whole purpose of you beginning this tread alloak? You have no promising Republican to back. Ben Carson is out. Who can you look at on the Republican side, point to their record and their character, and make the case that I should vote for that person?
Make the case. It won't take me anytime to shed doubt on that person's character.
C'mob Glass House. Throw your stone. The Republicans all kinds of crap. What have the Republicans of my lifetime done? Increased the debt and marched to war. All while cutting taxes on the rich and increasing taxes on my friend alloak.
Who for some reason wants more of the same treatment.
1. Again, I haven't heard any of them say that. (yet)
2. I guess you're expecting them to come out and endorse Hillary?
3. I can't name one that's every bit as much so, or more qualified or capable than Hillary Clinton. Plus, they're all just as slimy, so that cancels itself out. They all do it. Everybody does it.
4. What difference does it make? They all do it, everybody does it and you can find dirt anywhere you look.
5. Interesting. In my lifetime both parties have increased the debt and marched to war, and any tax cuts I remember were across the board.
6. What on Earth leads you to believe I want to settle for more of the same? Man, you have no idea.
5. Interesting. In my lifetime both parties have increased the debt and marched to war, and any tax cuts I remember were across the board.
Clinton increased the debt? Didn't we end up with a surplus? Johnson, Kennedy and Carter all reduced the debt. (GDP ratio)
I'll give you Nixon.
And it is true the GDP ratio has increased more under Obama breaking Reagan's record. Until now he is the President who reigned during the largest increase in debt.
More needless distractions. I see nothing wrong with a Sec of State trading Uranium to Russia in exchange for donations and speaking fees. It's not against the law and everybody does it.
You are the person doing the denying.
5. Interesting. In my lifetime both parties have increased the debt and marched to war, and any tax cuts I remember were across the board.
Your words bub. An example of the ignorance spoon fed to the Fox News audience.
You are the person doing the denying.
5. Interesting. In my lifetime both parties have increased the debt and marched to war, and any tax cuts I remember were across the board.
Your words bub. An example of the ignorance spoon fed to the Fox News audience.
It's all FOX News fault!
You are the person doing the denying.
5. Interesting. In my lifetime both parties have increased the debt and marched to war, and any tax cuts I remember were across the board.
Your words bub. An example of the ignorance spoon fed to the Fox News audience.
It's all FOX News fault!
Melodrama queen. 😛
I don't hear a single Republican running on their own record or their own vision of America.
I only hear a solid drum beat of "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary."
I haven't heard any of that. Can you give some examples.
I don't hear a single Republican running on their own record or their own vision of America.
I only hear a solid drum beat of "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary."
I haven't heard any of that. Can you give some examples.
Not surprised since most people are not really paying attention yet. But google is your friend if you really want some examples.
As for who should be the next POTUS, this shot says it all. 😉 😛
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I don't hear a single Republican running on their own record or their own vision of America.I only hear a solid drum beat of "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary."
I haven't heard any of that. Can you give some examples.
http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/04/12/hillary-clinton-president-republican-reaction/
You haven't heard any of that? Really? Not a peep?
The disingenuous is nauseating.
Click the link for a tiny sampling.
As the Clinton's dirt piles up, The N.Y. Times, The Washington Post and Fox News are actually reporting the facts of the malfeasance .
[Edited on 4/24/2015 by Muleman1994]
As the Clinton's dirt piles up, The N.Y. Times, The Washington Post and Fox News are actually reporting the facts of the malfeasance .
[Edited on 4/24/2015 by Muleman1994]
Really shocking this is on such a trusted news agency like Fox News not known for there muck raking. 😛
[Edited on 4/24/2015 by Bill_Graham]
As the Clinton's dirt piles up, The N.Y. Times, The Washington Post and Fox News are actually reporting the facts of the malfeasance .
There are no known "facts of the malfeasance" at this point. Certainly the appearance is there, which can be just as politically damaging and absolutely opens her/them up to intense scrutiny as it should, but as far as actual malfeasance goes there are no facts that show that.
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I don't hear a single Republican running on their own record or their own vision of America.I only hear a solid drum beat of "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary."
I haven't heard any of that. Can you give some examples.
http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/04/12/hillary-clinton-president-republican-reaction/
You haven't heard any of that? Really? Not a peep?
The disingenuous is nauseating.
Click the link for a tiny sampling.
Hint: One of them might be running against her.
Aren't a certain amount of these types of comments expected in a Presidential race? They all cite reasons why one should consider casting a vote for a candidate other than Ms. Clinton. None have said to vote for them because they aren't Hillary Clinton and failed to explain the reasoning behind the comment.
Are you expecting one of the GOP candidates to endorse Hillary? I hate to break this to you, but she may get bloodied up a little bit. That's politics.
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I don't hear a single Republican running on their own record or their own vision of America.I only hear a solid drum beat of "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary."
I haven't heard any of that. Can you give some examples.
http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/04/12/hillary-clinton-president-republican-reaction/
You haven't heard any of that? Really? Not a peep?
The disingenuous is nauseating.
Click the link for a tiny sampling.
Hint: One of them might be running against her.
Aren't a certain amount of these types of comments expected in a Presidential race? They all cite reasons why one should consider casting a vote for a candidate other than Ms. Clinton. None have said to vote for them because they aren't Hillary Clinton and failed to explain the reasoning behind the comment.
Are you expecting one of the GOP candidates to endorse Hillary? I hate to break this to you, but she may get bloodied up a little bit. That's politics.
That was a nice about face you just did there, from "I haven't heard it" (which obviously means it can't be happening) to of course they are doing it what else would you expect. 
Of course one of them will go toe-to-toe with HRC (assuming she is the D nominee as seems likely at this stage). To use your analogy, blood will be drawn and spilled by both sides before it is over, but one of them has to get the nomination first and the biggest campaign theme for all of them so far seems to be "I'm not Hillary" or "I'm the one who can beat Hillary" or some variation on that theme. Heck, that might be the best strategy they have, but it does seem a little, ummm, dare I say desperate, at this early stage.
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To use your analogy, blood will be drawn and spilled by both sides before it is over, but one of them has to get the nomination first and the biggest campaign theme for all of them so far seems to be "I'm not Hillary" or "I'm the one who can beat Hillary" or some variation on that theme. Heck, that might be the best strategy they have, but it does seem a little, ummm, dare I say desperate, at this early stage.
[Edited on 4/24/2015 by gondicar]
Why? It worked for Obama in 2012. His entire campaign strategy and plan for a second
term was ROMNEY IS A HORRIBLE PERSON.
To use your analogy, blood will be drawn and spilled by both sides before it is over, but one of them has to get the nomination first and the biggest campaign theme for all of them so far seems to be "I'm not Hillary" or "I'm the one who can beat Hillary" or some variation on that theme. Heck, that might be the best strategy they have, but it does seem a little, ummm, dare I say desperate, at this early stage.
[Edited on 4/24/2015 by gondicar]
Why? It worked for Obama in 2012. His entire campaign strategy and plan for a second
term was ROMNEY IS A HORRIBLE PERSON.
Do you really think that is a good analogy? Really?
First of all, I agreed that it will get bloody all the way around. Secondly, I said it might be the right strategy. Thirdly, I said it seems desperate at this early stage. Tell me, was Obama campaigning against Romney in the spring of 2011? I think not. Romney didn't even declare until June of 2011 and the GOP field was as full as it is now. Come on man, you can do better.
[Edited on 4/24/2015 by gondicar]
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To use your analogy, blood will be drawn and spilled by both sides before it is over, but one of them has to get the nomination first and the biggest campaign theme for all of them so far seems to be "I'm not Hillary" or "I'm the one who can beat Hillary" or some variation on that theme. Heck, that might be the best strategy they have, but it does seem a little, ummm, dare I say desperate, at this early stage.[Edited on 4/24/2015 by gondicar]
Why? It worked for Obama in 2012. His entire campaign strategy and plan for a second
term was ROMNEY IS A HORRIBLE PERSON.
Alloak - they are not putting forth their own ideas. The campaigns are rutterless. There is no direction.
And you did totally flip flop there.
My question remains - what Republican is offering a platform that will improve the country? Where are the jobs? Where are the infrastructure programs? Where is the alternative to Obamacare?
How will a Republican make this a better country?
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As for who should be the next POTUS, this shot says it all. 😉 😛
heh heh...
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To use your analogy, blood will be drawn and spilled by both sides before it is over, but one of them has to get the nomination first and the biggest campaign theme for all of them so far seems to be "I'm not Hillary" or "I'm the one who can beat Hillary" or some variation on that theme. Heck, that might be the best strategy they have, but it does seem a little, ummm, dare I say desperate, at this early stage.[Edited on 4/24/2015 by gondicar]
Why? It worked for Obama in 2012. His entire campaign strategy and plan for a second
term was ROMNEY IS A HORRIBLE PERSON.Alloak - they are not putting forth their own ideas. The campaigns are rutterless. There is no direction.
And you did totally flip flop there.
1. Apparently we're watching totally different speeches and interviews. Regardless, a rudderless campaign won for Obama in 2012.
2. False. I haven't seen ONE say "Vote for me because I'm not Hillary" and simply leave it at that.
I'm fairly sure about one thing at this point. In the future, the Democrats won't be likely all in and bet the house on one candidate. They might get away with it this time, or it could be disastrous.
I'm fairly sure about one thing at this point. In the future, the Democrats won't be likely all in and bet the house on one candidate. They might get away with it this time, or it could be disastrous.
I couldn't agree more. It might work in a 6 week election, but face it, Hillary has kind of been running since she was beaten by Obama.
As a voter I'm fatigued.
Hillary's over 23 years of corruption and criminal activity has been long reported.
If the liberals here don’t see any “facts” it is because they don’t want to hear the facts.
Hillary also has taken no position on any issue or offered any plans other than the fictitious “War on Women” by The Republicans. She refuses to meet with the press for anything other than a photo op.
The Republican declared and not yet declared candidates have stated their positions on a wide range of policy issues. If the liberals had been paying any attention they would know this. Much of the left-wing media simply will not report The Republicans positions while they write hit pieces without backing them up.
The Republicans do have an alternative to ObamaCare. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi refused for six years to even allow any Republican plan to be discussed. Now that The American People have thrown both of them out of power the peoples working is finally getting done.
Under Republican leadership the Congress has passed bi-partisan human trafficking legislation, budget resolutions, energy independence bills and many other bills that have been blocked for years by The Democrats.
The Republicans have three declared candidates to date; one of which actually has a good chance to be elected.
They also have a few more to declare and two of them also have a real chance of getting elected. Republicans want a wide range of candidates, ideas and policy positions discussed so that the people can make an informed decision.
Conversely The Democrats have only one candidate and want her to have no opposition. About three other Democrats and one Democrat-Socialist are talking about running but they know very well that they cannot defeat Hillary’s billions; much of which is dirty.
Hillary and her campaign blame The Republicans for all her corruption and criminal problems when of course they are all self-inflicted.
Deal with it.
+1
[Edited on 4/25/2015 by BillyBlastoff]
Notice how Josh Earnest won't say there was no wrongdoing in the Uranium
for Russia deal, rather saying there is "no evidence." Big difference. The Clintons
first denied any face to face meeting took place -- until the Russian produced a picture
taken with Bill in the Clinton's living room. Whoops. And of course any trail is hard to
follow since any evidence on Hillary's computer files was destroyed.
If you think all of this is above board there is truly no hope for you. Even if the Clintons
did nothing wrong, what kind of idiots give Russia access to our Uranium? You think that's
a wise foreign policy decision? Might has well just give it straight to the Iranians.
