Hillary Clinton is the topic of the thread.
Says the guy who swerved onto Mitt Romney in this thread.
Wow.
Hillary Clinton is the topic of the thread.
Says the guy who swerved onto Mitt Romney in this thread.
Wow.
Funny how you hold everyone to a standard that you can't rise to. I can see why you like the Republicans. 😛
Hillary Clinton is the topic of the thread.
Says the guy who swerved onto Mitt Romney in this thread.
Wow.
Funny how you hold everyone to a standard that you can't rise to. I can see why you like the Republicans. 😛
Sue me.
This thread has swerved onto Paula Dean, Chris Christie, Liz Warren, Bush (of course), Obama, Donald Sterling, Jean Shaheen....and it took about 40 seconds to find those.
Where you been?
Also, it might help to read the dialogue before you comment. Someone objected to me "labeling" Hillary and I responded that the topic of this thread IS Hillary. Outrageous, I know....
Hillary Clinton is the topic of the thread.
Says the guy who swerved onto Mitt Romney in this thread.
Wow.
Funny how you hold everyone to a standard that you can't rise to. I can see why you like the Republicans. 😛
Sue me.
This thread has swerved onto Paula Dean, Chris Christie, Liz Warren, Bush (of course), Obama, Donald Sterling, Jean Shaheen....and it took about 40 seconds to find those.
Where you been?
Also, it might help to read the dialogue before you comment. Someone objected to me "labeling" Hillary and I responded that the topic of this thread IS Hillary. Outrageous, I know....
No, calling her an alcoholic was outrageous. Inventing health problems was outrageous. You have no proof of any of that, but truth is never been something you have much use for when it suits you. Shouldn't you be more concerned about who your party might put up for president in 2016? Or are you so afraid of Hillary that you have to post lies about her? I think we know the answer to that.
Hillary Clinton is the topic of the thread.
Says the guy who swerved onto Mitt Romney in this thread.
Wow.
Funny how you hold everyone to a standard that you can't rise to. I can see why you like the Republicans. 😛
Sue me.
This thread has swerved onto Paula Dean, Chris Christie, Liz Warren, Bush (of course), Obama, Donald Sterling, Jean Shaheen....and it took about 40 seconds to find those.
Where you been?
Also, it might help to read the dialogue before you comment. Someone objected to me "labeling" Hillary and I responded that the topic of this thread IS Hillary. Outrageous, I know....
No, calling her an alcoholic was outrageous. Inventing health problems was outrageous. You have no proof of any of that, but truth is never been something you have much use for when it suits you. Shouldn't you be more concerned about who your party might put up for president in 2016? Or are you so afraid of Hillary that you have to post lies about her? I think we know the answer to that.
You missed the whole point. Again, try reading the thread.
Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol
So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........
Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.
Considering he was elected in November 2008 the first mistake you made is Obama was not a President in the 20th century.
That being said you are certainly entitled to your opinion but how can you possibly think Obama has been a worse President then George W. Bush?
Bush got us into two needless boondoggle wars under false pretenses and the economy was on the verge of collapse when he left office. I could go on with a list of blunders his Administration made but I think you get the point.
Since I know some here love to quote approval ratings, Bush's made a steady decline from basically the time he took office and ended with one of the lowest if not the lowest approval rating post WWII, depending on what polls you believe, so I would say the American people know who the worst has been. 😉
Thanks for the correction. He has been the worst president of the 20th and 21st centuries. As for who was worse, at this point that's a matter of opinion. I happen to think that when the historical smoke clears Bush will end up being a lot more popular. Harry Truman was basically run out of Washington on a rail with an approval rating in the 20's. Now he is almost universally regarded as one of the great or near great American presidents. So I wouldn't put too much stock in current polls. My opinion about Obama is not based on the polls which indicate the public is finally waking up but about the massive damage his policies are doing to this country.
No, calling her an alcoholic was outrageous. Inventing health problems was outrageous. You have no proof of any of that, but truth is never been something you have much use for when it suits you.
Proof and truth matter? Did they matter in 2011 and 12, for instance? That would be a NO on both.
You can't turn around and expect it to matter now. Typical.
Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol
So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........
Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.
And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion. If you have some scientific means or empirical data to support "by a magnitude", please share with us.
We've come to love reading your opinions which seem to be your standard operating procedure. I will give you this - even though I disagree with most of your opinions, I don't find you to be an internet troll like one of your brethren on this site.
Are we back to this ridiculousness where I have to state IMO? Do you state IMO or are your opinions to be taken as fact? Everyone here is giving their opinions. Always.
You like to state your opinions as though they are fact. Then when someone disagrees you ask for some kind of proof or whatever that shows why you are wrong...well, my take on that is if you are going to ask someone to show why you are wrong, you had better show why your are right first. Maybe I am getting you confused with muleman, but every time someone says "prove I'm wrong" or "offer some backup as to why I am wrong" without offering anything other than subjective opinion in the first place, it just adds to the ridiculousness of these conversations and the threads just go round and round in circles. If it weren't so entertaining, it would be really tough to justify even just poking my head in here. 😛
[Edited on 10/30/2014 by gondicar]
You must be confusing me with someone else. I respond to arguments. I don't ask people to offer proof.
No health problems? You sure?
She fell down AGAIN and still has a persistent blood clotting problem. NOBODY falls down like Hillary Clinton falls down, then claims everything is OK...When you hit the falling down and fainting stage...well
Then, there's the alcohol problem.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by alloak41]
No, calling her an alcoholic was outrageous. Inventing health problems was outrageous.
Is Hillary Clinton a relative of yours?... Is she family?
If not, what do you care?
Proof and truth matter? Did they matter in 2011 and 12, for instance? That would be a NO on both.
You can't turn around and expect it to matter now. Typical.
No health problems? You sure?
She fell down AGAIN and still has a persistent blood clotting problem. NOBODY falls down like Hillary Clinton falls down, then claims everything is OK...When you hit the falling down and fainting stage...well
Then, there's the alcohol problem.
You are either a flat out liar or the one with the alcohol problem. You whine about lying in politics (still inferring that it is a one-sided phenomenon), and then with your very next post you use pull up an article from almost 2 years ago (dated 1/04/2013...you do realize she is no longer Secretary of State, right?) and try to tell us it is current while still pushing the alcoholic angle. What a piece of work you are, no wonder you have such a warped view of the world.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
What if a serious crisis is unfolding and Hillary falls down again and hits her head? Or in the middle of an important summit faints again? What if she's into the cooking sherry and is needed to make an important decision? Being President is a 24/7/365 job that requires a strong and healthy person to fulfill that need.
No, calling her an alcoholic was outrageous. Inventing health problems was outrageous.
Is Hillary Clinton a relative of yours?... Is she family?
B
If not, what do you care?
So I guess you are ok with libel. If lying doesn't bother you, why do you constantly accuse all politicians of lying? Or is this another double standard?
What if a serious crisis is unfolding and Hillary falls down again and hits her head? Or in the middle of an important summit faints again? What if she's into the cooking sherry and is needed to make an important decision? Being President is a 24/7/365 job that requires a strong and healthy person to fulfill that need.
The more you try to defend yourself, the more idiotic you sound. Instead of realizing that you have crossed a line, you expand on it and look like a buffoon.
What if a serious crisis is unfolding and Hillary falls down again and hits her head? Or in the middle of an important summit faints again? What if she's into the cooking sherry and is needed to make an important decision? Being President is a 24/7/365 job that requires a strong and healthy person to fulfill that need.
Two of the most revered presidents of the 20th century, if not in US history, FDR (elected to 4 terms while confined to a wheelchair and suffering from a myriad of health issues, all while lead the country through some of its darkest times) and Reagan, had serious health issues while in office. Surely if we survived Reagan's Alzheimer's we wouldn't have anything to fear from a little cooking sherry.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
Proof and truth matter? Did they matter in 2011 and 12, for instance? That would be a NO on both.
You can't turn around and expect it to matter now. Typical.
No health problems? You sure?
She fell down AGAIN and still has a persistent blood clotting problem. NOBODY falls down like Hillary Clinton falls down, then claims everything is OK...When you hit the falling down and fainting stage...well
Then, there's the alcohol problem.
You are either a flat out liar or the one with the alcohol problem. You whine about lying in politics (still inferring that it is a one-sided phenomenon), and then with your very next post you use pull up an article from almost 2 years ago (dated 1/04/2013...you do realize she is no longer Secretary of State, right?) and try to tell us it is current while still pushing the alcoholic angle. What a piece of work you are, no wonder you have such a warped view of the world.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
I know a whine when I see it. You've been whining.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
Well, I'm not a liberal but you are obviously the one being bothered since you can't seem to stop lying yourself. And I think people expect it from politicians and campaigns, but not from the regular Joe Blow types here. And make no mistake, the GOP will do it, just as they and their opponents have been doing for as long as their have been campaigns. And just for the record, I hate it no matter who is doing it.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Again, people are reacting to YOUR lies, not the rhetoric of a campaign. You can't seem to grasp that there is a difference. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You mean the current date/time stamp at the top? Well, I guess that would fool anyone who didn't bother to read and/or didn't comprehend the article.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
No, calling her an alcoholic was outrageous. Inventing health problems was outrageous.
Is Hillary Clinton a relative of yours?... Is she family?
B
If not, what do you care?So I guess you are ok with libel. If lying doesn't bother you, why do you constantly accuse all politicians of lying? Or is this another double standard?
I just don't care. It is that simple. I do not know these people, nor am I related to them. I don't represent them any more than they respect my wishes. Once again your comprehension skills come into question. Once, once in this thread, I sarcastically wrote that all politicians lie. "Constantly"....show me. If you are going to accuse someone, you better have proof or you are no better that those you throw rocks at for insulting one of your heroes. Prove me wrong, when and if you can, I will stand up and apologize. Are you so eager to pick a fight that you've forgotten how to digest what others here put into words? "Double standard"?...please.
"Libel" or slander my family?...Then we have a problem. Call me names?.... I close my eyes and we are back on the playground, childish. Call a Politician names or "slander them" so what?
Once again, "Are you related to Hillary"?
What if a serious crisis is unfolding and Hillary falls down again and hits her head? Or in the middle of an important summit faints again? What if she's into the cooking sherry and is needed to make an important decision? Being President is a 24/7/365 job that requires a strong and healthy person to fulfill that need.
The more you try to defend yourself, the more idiotic you sound. Instead of realizing that you have crossed a line, you expand on it and look like a buffoon.
I'm not trying to "defend" myself, just asking pertinent questions. (That you avoid, of course)
Your constant personal attacks against fellow posters make you look like a jerk.
What if a serious crisis is unfolding and Hillary falls down again and hits her head? Or in the middle of an important summit faints again? What if she's into the cooking sherry and is needed to make an important decision? Being President is a 24/7/365 job that requires a strong and healthy person to fulfill that need.
The more you try to defend yourself, the more idiotic you sound. Instead of realizing that you have crossed a line, you expand on it and look like a buffoon.
I'm not trying to "defend" myself, just asking pertinent questions. (That you avoid, of course)
Just in case you missed my answers...
Two of the most revered presidents of the 20th century, if not in US history, FDR (elected to 4 terms while confined to a wheelchair and suffering from a myriad of health issues, all while leading the country through some of its darkest times) and Reagan, had serious health issues while in office. Surely if we survived Reagan's Alzheimer's we wouldn't have anything to fear from a little cooking sherry.
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
I know a whine when I see it. You've been whining.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
Well, I'm not a liberal but you are obviously the one being bothered since you can't seem to stop lying yourself. And I think people expect it from politicians and campaigns, but not from the regular Joe Blow types here. And make no mistake, the GOP will do it, just as they and their opponents have been doing for as long as their have been campaigns. And just for the record, I hate it no matter who is doing it.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Again, people are reacting to YOUR lies, not the rhetoric of a campaign. You can't seem to grasp that there is a difference. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You mean the current date/time stamp at the top? Well, I guess that would fool anyone who didn't bother to read and/or didn't comprehend the article.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
I tried an experiment on this thread and it worked even better than expected. One for the books.
I tried an experiment on this thread and it worked even better than expected. One for the books.
Right. It was all a rouse to get under people's skin. Now who looks like a jerk.
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
I know a whine when I see it. You've been whining.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
Well, I'm not a liberal but you are obviously the one being bothered since you can't seem to stop lying yourself. And I think people expect it from politicians and campaigns, but not from the regular Joe Blow types here. And make no mistake, the GOP will do it, just as they and their opponents have been doing for as long as their have been campaigns. And just for the record, I hate it no matter who is doing it.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Again, people are reacting to YOUR lies, not the rhetoric of a campaign. You can'Jt seem to grasp that there is a difference. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You mean the current date/time stamp at the top? Well, I guess that would fool anyone who didn't bother to read and/or didn't comprehend the article.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
I tried an experiment on this thread and it worked even better than expected. One for the books.
BS. You tried to libel a probable presidential candidate who scares the hell out of you and it backfired. That is all that happened. You couldn't put one over on my dog.
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
I know a whine when I see it. You've been whining.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
Well, I'm not a liberal but you are obviously the one being bothered since you can't seem to stop lying yourself. And I think people expect it from politicians and campaigns, but not from the regular Joe Blow types here. And make no mistake, the GOP will do it, just as they and their opponents have been doing for as long as their have been campaigns. And just for the record, I hate it no matter who is doing it.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Again, people are reacting to YOUR lies, not the rhetoric of a campaign. You can'Jt seem to grasp that there is a difference. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You mean the current date/time stamp at the top? Well, I guess that would fool anyone who didn't bother to read and/or didn't comprehend the article.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
I tried an experiment on this thread and it worked even better than expected. One for the books.
You couldn't put one over on my dog.
You take this stuff much too personal but don't worry. When I can get a Liberal to lower himself to personal remarks that's just another notch in my belt. It's usually not difficult.
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
I know a whine when I see it. You've been whining.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
Well, I'm not a liberal but you are obviously the one being bothered since you can't seem to stop lying yourself. And I think people expect it from politicians and campaigns, but not from the regular Joe Blow types here. And make no mistake, the GOP will do it, just as they and their opponents have been doing for as long as their have been campaigns. And just for the record, I hate it no matter who is doing it.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Again, people are reacting to YOUR lies, not the rhetoric of a campaign. You can'Jt seem to grasp that there is a difference. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You mean the current date/time stamp at the top? Well, I guess that would fool anyone who didn't bother to read and/or didn't comprehend the article.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
I tried an experiment on this thread and it worked even better than expected. One for the books.
You couldn't put one over on my dog.
You take this stuff much too personal but don't worry. When I can get a Liberal to lower himself to personal remarks that's just another notch in my belt. It's usually not difficult.
So, you admit to lying and libeling people for the sole purpose of bringing us down to your level. Classy. But it didn't work. We didn't lie about anything. So you still have the sewer to yourself. Enjoy!
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by jkeller]
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
I know a whine when I see it. You've been whining.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
Well, I'm not a liberal but you are obviously the one being bothered since you can't seem to stop lying yourself. And I think people expect it from politicians and campaigns, but not from the regular Joe Blow types here. And make no mistake, the GOP will do it, just as they and their opponents have been doing for as long as their have been campaigns. And just for the record, I hate it no matter who is doing it.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Again, people are reacting to YOUR lies, not the rhetoric of a campaign. You can'Jt seem to grasp that there is a difference. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You mean the current date/time stamp at the top? Well, I guess that would fool anyone who didn't bother to read and/or didn't comprehend the article.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
I tried an experiment on this thread and it worked even better than expected. One for the books.
You couldn't put one over on my dog.
You take this stuff much too personal but don't worry. When I can get a Liberal to lower himself to personal remarks that's just another notch in my belt. It's usually not difficult.
So, you admit to lying and libeling people for the sole purpose of bringing us down to your level. Classy. But it didn't work. We didn't lie about anything. So you still have the sewer to yourself. Enjoy!
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by jkeller]
But it DID work! Who knows? Maybe these doctors are lying too.
Hillary Clinton has blood clots in her head. But, maybe the doctors that diagnosed that problem are also committing LIBEL.
Tell me another one.
You've got it terribly wrong. I haven't whined about lying in politics at all, I've resigned myself to accepting it as a given. If it can help you win a Presidential election, use it. Lord knows the Democrats will. They have to.
I know a whine when I see it. You've been whining.
Why does it seem to bother the Liberals here so bad when the same tactics they use are turned around on them? The GOP should do the same in 2016 Presidential election.
Well, I'm not a liberal but you are obviously the one being bothered since you can't seem to stop lying yourself. And I think people expect it from politicians and campaigns, but not from the regular Joe Blow types here. And make no mistake, the GOP will do it, just as they and their opponents have been doing for as long as their have been campaigns. And just for the record, I hate it no matter who is doing it.
I'm getting the exact reaction I was shooting for. I don't remember you or anyone else on the Left being upset by lies as long they are deployed against someone they don't like. Typical.
Again, people are reacting to YOUR lies, not the rhetoric of a campaign. You can'Jt seem to grasp that there is a difference. Typical.
Sorry about the date on the article. It's dated differently at the top.
You mean the current date/time stamp at the top? Well, I guess that would fool anyone who didn't bother to read and/or didn't comprehend the article.
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by gondicar]
I tried an experiment on this thread and it worked even better than expected. One for the books.
BS. You tried to libel a possible presidential candidate who scares the hell out of you and it backfired. You couldn't put one over on my dog.
You take this stuff much too personal but don't worry. When I can get a Liberal to lower himself to personal remarks that's just another notch in my belt. It's usually not difficult.
So, you admit to lying and libeling people for the sole purpose of bringing us down to your level. Classy. But it didn't work. We didn't lie about anything. So you still have the sewer to yourself. Enjoy!
[Edited on 10/31/2014 by jkeller]
But it DID work! Who knows? Maybe these doctors are lying too.
BTW, I fixed your quote of my post. You know, to put it in context. Quoting only part of what people say is something you do all the time. You failed. Completely. Own it. See ya.
When I can get a Liberal to lower himself to personal remarks that's just another notch in my belt. It's usually not difficult.
So then you've become nothing more than a troll. You're right, that's not that hard. But good for you.
BTW, I fixed your quote of my post. You know, to put it in context. Quoting only part of what people say is something you do all the time. You failed. Completely. Own it. See ya.
Boy, you sure showed him! Smartest kid at the assembly!
