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BIGV
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Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol

So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........

Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

Considering he was elected in November 2008 the first mistake you made is Obama was not a President in the 20th century.

That being said you are certainly entitled to your opinion but how can you possibly think Obama has been a worse President then George W. Bush?

Bush got us into two needless boondoggle wars under false pretenses and the economy was on the verge of collapse when he left office. I could go on with a list of blunders his Administration made but I think you get the point.

Since I know some here love to quote approval ratings, Bush's made a steady decline from basically the time he took office and ended with one of the lowest if not the lowest approval rating post WWII, depending on what polls you believe, so I would say the American people know who the worst has been. 😉

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President Bush inherited a declining economy and a national intelligence so dysfunctional it allowed Islamic terrorists to attack us on 9/11. This was Clinton’s gift to America.

The American People, supported by the democrats including Hillary and Kerry, wanted The U.S. to go after Al-Qaeda.
Your “two needless boondoggle wars under false pretenses” statement is a flat out lie.

Obama’s approval rating is now equal to President Bush’s lowest. President Bush’s approval rating is now higher than Obamas.

President Bush had to deal with Pelosi and Reid who refused to pass any legislation from 2006-2008 that that was good for the country but would have shown President Bush in a positive light.
Reid and the democrats in the senate have continued this obstructionist policy with regard the anything from the House of Representatives.

Pelosi and Reid also spent hundreds of billions of dollars the country didn’t have.

BTW – Obama is he two president considered the worst since WWII.

The American People know the facts and will deliver their sentence to Obama in a week.

- Clinton handed Bush a budget surplus while Bush handed Obama an economy on the verge of collapse.
- The Democrats supported thee war based false information and were under intense pressure to support the two trainwreck wars. As Bush stated in his TV address "You are either with us or with the Terrorists"
-Do your research as Obama's approval rating has never been as low as Bush's was when he left office Bush's dipped into the upper 20's at the end of his term and Obama's has never been that low so who is lying now.
- LOL you ha

And so the pendulum swings and will continue to do so.

Break this chain, vote Libertarian!


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 11:58 am
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Posted : October 29, 2014 12:15 pm
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Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol

So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........

Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

Considering he was elected in November 2008 the first mistake you made is Obama was not a President in the 20th century.

That being said you are certainly entitled to your opinion but how can you possibly think Obama has been a worse President then George W. Bush?

Bush got us into two needless boondoggle wars under false pretenses and the economy was on the verge of collapse when he left office. I could go on with a list of blunders his Administration made but I think you get the point.

Since I know some here love to quote approval ratings, Bush's made a steady decline from basically the time he took office and ended with one of the lowest if not the lowest approval rating post WWII, depending on what polls you believe, so I would say the American people know who the worst has been. 😉

_______________________________________________

President Bush inherited a declining economy and a national intelligence so dysfunctional it allowed Islamic terrorists to attack us on 9/11. This was Clinton’s gift to America.

The American People, supported by the democrats including Hillary and Kerry, wanted The U.S. to go after Al-Qaeda.
Your “two needless boondoggle wars under false pretenses” statement is a flat out lie.

Obama’s approval rating is now equal to President Bush’s lowest. President Bush’s approval rating is now higher than Obamas.

President Bush had to deal with Pelosi and Reid who refused to pass any legislation from 2006-2008 that that was good for the country but would have shown President Bush in a positive light.
Reid and the democrats in the senate have continued this obstructionist policy with regard the anything from the House of Representatives.

Pelosi and Reid also spent hundreds of billions of dollars the country didn’t have.

BTW – Obama is he two president considered the worst since WWII.

The American People know the facts and will deliver their sentence to Obama in a week.

- Clinton handed Bush a budget surplus while Bush handed Obama an economy on the verge of collapse.
- The Democrats supported thee war based false information and were under intense pressure to support the two trainwreck wars. As Bush stated in his TV address "You are either with us or with the Terrorists"
-Do your research as Obama's approval rating has never been as low as Bush's was when he left office Bush's dipped into the upper 20's at the end of his term and Obama's has never been that low so who is lying now.
- LOL you ha

And so the pendulum swings and will continue to do so.

Break this chain, vote Libertarian!

Yeah, you are a Liberterian. 😛

Read this

http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration

Yeah, I am sure you support this.


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 12:25 pm
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Hillary Fired for Lies, Unethical Behavior from Congressional Job: Former Boss

By: Ed Morrissey

Dan Calabrese’s new column on Hillary Clinton’s past may bring the curtain down on her political future. Calabrese interviewed Jerry Zeifman, the man who served as chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee during the Watergate hearings, has tried to tell the story of his former staffer’s behavior during those proceedings for years. Zeifman claims he fired Hillary for unethical behavior and that she conspired to deny Richard Nixon counsel during the hearings:

As Hillary Clinton came under increasing scrutiny for her story about facing sniper fire in Bosnia, one question that arose was whether she has engaged in a pattern of lying.

The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.
Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

Why?

“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

This isn’t exactly news. When her lachrymose performance arguably won her New Hampshire, Zeifman tried to tell people about Hillary’s duplicity. Patterico noticed the effort, but few others picked it up. Zeifman wrote at his website:

After hiring Hillary, Doar assigned her to confer with me regarding rules of procedure for the impeachment inquiry. At my first meeting with her I told her that Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, House Speaker Carl Albert, Majority Leader “Tip” O’Neill, Parliamentarian Lou Deschler and I had previously all agreed that we should rely only on the then existing House Rules, and not advocate any changes. I also quoted Tip O’Neill’s statement that: “To try to change the rules now would be politically divisive. It would be like trying to change the traditional rules of baseball before a World Series.”

Hillary assured me that she had not drafted, and would not advocate, any such rules changes. However, as documented in my personal diary, I soon learned that she had lied. She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them. In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon representation by counsel. In so doing she simply ignored the fact that in the committee’s then most recent prior impeachment proceeding, the committee had afforded the right to counsel to Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas.

Very interesting. Thanks for posting. Alcoholics are often truth-challenged.


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 12:35 pm
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Hillary Fired for Lies, Unethical Behavior from Congressional Job: Former Boss

By: Ed Morrissey

Dan Calabrese’s new column on Hillary Clinton’s past may bring the curtain down on her political future. Calabrese interviewed Jerry Zeifman, the man who served as chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee during the Watergate hearings, has tried to tell the story of his former staffer’s behavior during those proceedings for years. Zeifman claims he fired Hillary for unethical behavior and that she conspired to deny Richard Nixon counsel during the hearings:

As Hillary Clinton came under increasing scrutiny for her story about facing sniper fire in Bosnia, one question that arose was whether she has engaged in a pattern of lying.

The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.
Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

Why?

“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

This isn’t exactly news. When her lachrymose performance arguably won her New Hampshire, Zeifman tried to tell people about Hillary’s duplicity. Patterico noticed the effort, but few others picked it up. Zeifman wrote at his website:

After hiring Hillary, Doar assigned her to confer with me regarding rules of procedure for the impeachment inquiry. At my first meeting with her I told her that Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, House Speaker Carl Albert, Majority Leader “Tip” O’Neill, Parliamentarian Lou Deschler and I had previously all agreed that we should rely only on the then existing House Rules, and not advocate any changes. I also quoted Tip O’Neill’s statement that: “To try to change the rules now would be politically divisive. It would be like trying to change the traditional rules of baseball before a World Series.”

Hillary assured me that she had not drafted, and would not advocate, any such rules changes. However, as documented in my personal diary, I soon learned that she had lied. She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them. In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon representation by counsel. In so doing she simply ignored the fact that in the committee’s then most recent prior impeachment proceeding, the committee had afforded the right to counsel to Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas.

Very interesting. Thanks for posting. Alcoholics are often truth-challenged.

Bush was an alcoholic? Mitt Romney? You?


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 12:52 pm
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Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol

So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........

Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

Considering he was elected in November 2008 the first mistake you made is Obama was not a President in the 20th century.

That being said you are certainly entitled to your opinion but how can you possibly think Obama has been a worse President then George W. Bush?

Bush got us into two needless boondoggle wars under false pretenses and the economy was on the verge of collapse when he left office. I could go on with a list of blunders his Administration made but I think you get the point.

Since I know some here love to quote approval ratings, Bush's made a steady decline from basically the time he took office and ended with one of the lowest if not the lowest approval rating post WWII, depending on what polls you believe, so I would say the American people know who the worst has been. 😉

_______________________________________________

President Bush inherited a declining economy and a national intelligence so dysfunctional it allowed Islamic terrorists to attack us on 9/11. This was Clinton’s gift to America.

The American People, supported by the democrats including Hillary and Kerry, wanted The U.S. to go after Al-Qaeda.
Your “two needless boondoggle wars under false pretenses” statement is a flat out lie.

Obama’s approval rating is now equal to President Bush’s lowest. President Bush’s approval rating is now higher than Obamas.

President Bush had to deal with Pelosi and Reid who refused to pass any legislation from 2006-2008 that that was good for the country but would have shown President Bush in a positive light.
Reid and the democrats in the senate have continued this obstructionist policy with regard the anything from the House of Representatives.

Pelosi and Reid also spent hundreds of billions of dollars the country didn’t have.

BTW – Obama is he two president considered the worst since WWII.

The American People know the facts and will deliver their sentence to Obama in a week.

- Clinton handed Bush a budget surplus while Bush handed Obama an economy on the verge of collapse.
- The Democrats supported thee war based false information and were under intense pressure to support the two trainwreck wars. As Bush stated in his TV address "You are either with us or with the Terrorists"
-Do your research as Obama's approval rating has never been as low as Bush's was when he left office Bush's dipped into the upper 20's at the end of his term and Obama's has never been that low so who is lying now.
- LOL you have a big pair nerve crying about the Democrats obstructing the GOP agenda considering how they oppose everything the Democrats have proposed during Obama's term.

- President Bush turned a surplus into a deficit increasing spending and massive tax cuts. And unemployment almost doubled under his Administration in 8 years.

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- Clinton handed Bush a budget surplus while Bush handed Obama an economy on the verge of collapse.

A rapidly declining surplus. A surplus created on the back on the military which Clinton decimated. When Pres.Bush came into office the economy was teetering on recession.

__________________________________________________________________

- The Democrats supported thee war based false information and were under intense pressure to support the two trainwreck wars. As Bush stated in his TV address "You are either with us or with the Terrorists"

The information you claim was false was provided by the Clinton administration’s intelligence services that were dysfunctional and allowed the Islamic terrorists to attack The U.S.
Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons and used them to kill tens of thousands of Kurds. The chemical weapons were found along with the two mobile chemical weapons laboratories now stored in Kentucky. Many of Saddam’s WMD was sent to Syria when the Iraq was started and were subsequently used of the Syrian population.
Very recently more chemical weapons were found in Iraq some of which are now in the hands of ISIS.

Pres. Bush stated in his TV address "You are either with us or with the Terrorists"
Exactly right. Pres. Bush was speaking to the World and building a coalition of the willing that grew to more than 140 nations.

Obama’s coalition of the worried is almost non-existent and not one of the as yet un-named coalition is willing to put the boots on the ground necessary to defeat ISIS.

Put down your democrat talking points and learn some facts.


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 1:34 pm
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We are still waiting for the liberals here to name any accomplishment or professional experience of Hillary.

Notably Hillary's own state department cannot

What experiences and qualifications would make one ready to serve as president of the United States?


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 2:05 pm
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And so the pendulum swings and will continue to do so.

Break this chain, vote Libertarian!

Yeah, you are a Liberterian. 😛

Read this

http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration

Yeah, I am sure you support this.

Yeah, I'm still a registered Libertarian. I believe in Legal Abortions and despise Gubmint handouts. No Party line fits perfectly and I'll admit that the Immigration crisis really gets under my skin...big time, but pound for pound?...I believe I will stay right where I am.


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 2:23 pm
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And so the pendulum swings and will continue to do so.

Break this chain, vote Libertarian!

Yeah, you are a Liberterian. 😛

Read this

http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration

Yeah, I am sure you support this.

Yeah, I'm still a registered Libertarian. I believe in Legal Abortions and despise Gubmint handouts. No Party line fits perfectly and I'll admit that the Immigration crisis really gets under my skin...big time, but pound for pound?...I believe I will stay right where I am.

This is what confuses me about you. Based on what you say here, you believe that illegal immigration is a major problem in this country. I know that you live in the San Diego area and that illegal immigration is a major problem there. What I don't get is how you would overlook the Liberterian position on this. It doesn't make sense.


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 3:04 pm
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This is that part in the movie where the plot goes all wacky.

The Libertarians make way too much sense. Sadly their political beliefs don’t have a chance in hell of happening.

Libertarians are by nature calm, practical and peaceful and believe in The Constitution.
As ii understand them, they are seriously against Big Government and the incessant over regulation of every aspect of The People.

I watched an interesting show by John Stossell, a declared Libertarian, on what it was like to try and open a small business in NYC, say a hot dog stand.
The bottom line was that he went through the process and it took over two years, thousands of dollars, endless paper work and delays, 13 agencies and attitudes and in the end he was denied.
The funny part was he found that if he had applied as a “minority” he would have easily been approved.

The system is truly broken.

Libertarian candidates often run for office but the other two parties have way too much money and political connections for them to ever have a chance.

Pity.

(As I understand Libertarians… but my knowledge here is very limited).

Stop Making Sense! ( a great recording BTW)


 
Posted : October 29, 2014 6:54 pm
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And so the pendulum swings and will continue to do so.

Break this chain, vote Libertarian!

Yeah, you are a Liberterian. 😛

Read this

http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration

Yeah, I am sure you support this.

Yeah, I'm still a registered Libertarian. I believe in Legal Abortions and despise Gubmint handouts. No Party line fits perfectly and I'll admit that the Immigration crisis really gets under my skin...big time, but pound for pound?...I believe I will stay right where I am.

This is what confuses me about you. Based on what you say here, you believe that illegal immigration is a major problem in this country. I know that you live in the San Diego area and that illegal immigration is a major problem there. What I don't get is how you would overlook the Liberterian position on this. It doesn't make sense.

As annoyed as I am by the flow of Illegal immigrants across the border, there are many other issues where the Libertarian Party fits me like a glove. As already stated above, No party is a perfect fit, but I can live with 9 out of 10.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 3:27 am
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Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol

So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........

Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion. If you have some scientific means or empirical data to support "by a magnitude", please share with us.

We've come to love reading your opinions which seem to be your standard operating procedure. I will give you this - even though I disagree with most of your opinions, I don't find you to be an internet troll like one of your brethren on this site.

Are we back to this ridiculousness where I have to state IMO? Do you state IMO or are your opinions to be taken as fact? Everyone here is giving their opinions. Always.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 8:26 am
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Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol

So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........

Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion. If you have some scientific means or empirical data to support "by a magnitude", please share with us.

We've come to love reading your opinions which seem to be your standard operating procedure. I will give you this - even though I disagree with most of your opinions, I don't find you to be an internet troll like one of your brethren on this site.

Are we back to this ridiculousness where I have to state IMO? Do you state IMO or are your opinions to be taken as fact? Everyone here is giving their opinions. Always.

You like to state your opinions as though they are fact. Then when someone disagrees you ask for some kind of proof or whatever that shows why you are wrong...well, my take on that is if you are going to ask someone to show why you are wrong, you had better show why your are right first. Maybe I am getting you confused with muleman, but every time someone says "prove I'm wrong" or "offer some backup as to why I am wrong" without offering anything other than subjective opinion in the first place, it just adds to the ridiculousness of these conversations and the threads just go round and round in circles. If it weren't so entertaining, it would be really tough to justify even just poking my head in here. 😛

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by gondicar]


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 8:54 am
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This is that part in the movie where the plot goes all wacky.

The Libertarians make way too much sense. Sadly their political beliefs don’t have a chance in hell of happening.

Libertarians are by nature calm, practical and peaceful and believe in The Constitution.
As ii understand them, they are seriously against Big Government and the incessant over regulation of every aspect of The People.

I watched an interesting show by John Stossell, a declared Libertarian, on what it was like to try and open a small business in NYC, say a hot dog stand.
The bottom line was that he went through the process and it took over two years, thousands of dollars, endless paper work and delays, 13 agencies and attitudes and in the end he was denied.
The funny part was he found that if he had applied as a “minority” he would have easily been approved.

The system is truly broken.

Libertarian candidates often run for office but the other two parties have way too much money and political connections for them to ever have a chance.

Pity.

(As I understand Libertarians… but my knowledge here is very limited).

Stop Making Sense! ( a great recording BTW)

Considering how much you whine about the Democrats cutting Defense spending I don't think you would like the Libertarian politicians much as the one of the better known Libertarians Ron Paul wants to close our bases overseas and cut military spending and he blames the Republicans for resisting this.

http://www.fitsnews.com/2014/03/03/ron-paul-defense-spending-vs-military-spending/

Even his Republican son Rand Paul agrees Defense spending is out of control and does not support us interfering in the Middle East.

http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=blog&id=619

No I am afraid your views do not line up with the Libertarians


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 9:08 am
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please change the name of the thread title.

I'm tired of looking at it.

thanks in advance. Cool Grin

What makes you so special? Grin

nothing.

just another of the many "IMO's" in these threads.

jeez, these threads deteriorate.

as previously stated, it becomes entertaining and one HAS to take a look... Grin


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 9:43 am
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Funny - amateur president is a new term - in say the last 6 years. Every other president before was somehow qualified...... lol

So who, in either party, would not be an amateur president? What does that even mean? Just another fake issue from the conservatives........

Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion. If you have some scientific means or empirical data to support "by a magnitude", please share with us.

We've come to love reading your opinions which seem to be your standard operating procedure. I will give you this - even though I disagree with most of your opinions, I don't find you to be an internet troll like one of your brethren on this site.

Are we back to this ridiculousness where I have to state IMO? Do you state IMO or are your opinions to be taken as fact? Everyone here is giving their opinions. Always.

When necessary I preface with the word "opinion" or "I suspect". Your posts come off about as consistently dogmatic as any I've read on this site.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 10:21 am
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Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion.

Obviously.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 10:37 am
MartinD28
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Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion.

Obviously.

Very profound thought. The depth never ceases to amaze.

It's approaching 5:00 P.M. Isn't it time for your cocktail?


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 1:02 pm
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Hillary baggage keeps piling up:

List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies

You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.

Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.

Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.

1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee

Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire

“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord

The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11

Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary

During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act

Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa

Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)

Tomorrow is another day with a good chance of another lie.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 1:44 pm
Bill_Graham
(@bill_graham)
Posts: 2795
Famed Member
 

Hillary baggage keeps piling up:

List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies

You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.

Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.

Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.

1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee

Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire

“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord

The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11

Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary

During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act

Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa

Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)

Tomorrow is another day with a good chance of another lie.

Lucky for us Democrats the majority of "low info" voters don't care about these trivial BS "lies" you posted so Hillary will win running away in 2016. You have 2 years Mule so I suggest you start working your Hillary hate post now so you have a lot of material to whine about here after she wins. Grin

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 3:29 pm
Muleman1994
(@muleman1994)
Posts: 4923
Member
 

Hillary baggage keeps piling up:

List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies

You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.

Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.

Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.

1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee

Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire

“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord

The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11

Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary

During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act

Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa

Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)

Tomorrow is another day with a good chance of another lie.

Lucky for us Democrats the majority of "low info" voters don't care about these trivial BS "lies" you posted so Hillary will win running away in 2016. You have 2 years Mule so I suggest you start working your Hillary hate post now so you have a lot of material to whine about here after she wins. Grin

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

________________________________________________

At least you are consistent. Every time you read something you don't like you call it a lie.
That is common amongst liberals.
The truth hurts eh?

I'm still waiting for you to post and accomplishment of Hillary.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 3:44 pm
Bill_Graham
(@bill_graham)
Posts: 2795
Famed Member
 

Hillary baggage keeps piling up:

List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies

You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.

Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.

Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.

1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee

Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire

“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord

The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11

Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary

During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act

Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa

Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)

Tomorrow is another day with a good chance of another lie.

Lucky for us Democrats the majority of "low info" voters don't care about these trivial BS "lies" you posted so Hillary will win running away in 2016. You have 2 years Mule so I suggest you start working your Hillary hate post now so you have a lot of material to whine about here after she wins. Grin

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

________________________________________________

At least you are consistent. Every time you read something you don't like you call it a lie.
That is common amongst liberals.
The truth hurts eh?

I'm still waiting for you to post and accomplishment of Hillary.

You must have reading comprehension Mule I never said they were not true I was on referencing the title of your post 'Hillary verified lies" and that they are BS trivial nitpicking on by conservatives and will have no impact on Hillary getting elected.

I look forward to your whining after Hillary gets elected so if I was you I would start working on my material now. Grin


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 3:55 pm
Muleman1994
(@muleman1994)
Posts: 4923
Member
 

Hillary baggage keeps piling up:

List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies

You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.

Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.

Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.

1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee

Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire

“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord

The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11

Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary

During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act

Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa

Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)

Tomorrow is another day with a good chance of another lie.

Lucky for us Democrats the majority of "low info" voters don't care about these trivial BS "lies" you posted so Hillary will win running away in 2016. You have 2 years Mule so I suggest you start working your Hillary hate post now so you have a lot of material to whine about here after she wins. Grin

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

________________________________________________

At least you are consistent. Every time you read something you don't like you call it a lie.
That is common amongst liberals.
The truth hurts eh?

I'm still waiting for you to post and accomplishment of Hillary.

You must have reading comprehension Mule I never said they were not true I was on referencing the title of your post 'Hillary verified lies" and that they are BS trivial nitpicking on by conservatives and will have no impact on Hillary getting elected.

I look forward to your whining after Hillary gets elected so if I was you I would start working on my material now. Grin

_______________________________________

Why should any one vote for Hillary?
What are her qualifications for the job?


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 5:15 pm
Bill_Graham
(@bill_graham)
Posts: 2795
Famed Member
 

Hillary baggage keeps piling up:

List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies

You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.

Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.

Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.

1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee

Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire

“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord

The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11

Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary

During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act

Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa

Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)

Tomorrow is another day with a good chance of another lie.

Lucky for us Democrats the majority of "low info" voters don't care about these trivial BS "lies" you posted so Hillary will win running away in 2016. You have 2 years Mule so I suggest you start working your Hillary hate post now so you have a lot of material to whine about here after she wins. Grin

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

________________________________________________

At least you are consistent. Every time you read something you don't like you call it a lie.
That is common amongst liberals.
The truth hurts eh?

I'm still waiting for you to post and accomplishment of Hillary.

You must have reading comprehension Mule I never said they were not true I was on referencing the title of your post 'Hillary verified lies" and that they are BS trivial nitpicking on by conservatives and will have no impact on Hillary getting elected.

I look forward to your whining after Hillary gets elected so if I was you I would start working on my material now. Grin

_______________________________________

Why should any one vote for Hillary?
What are her qualifications for the job?

Changing the subject again eh Mule? using your old fallback when painted into a corner of challenging Hillary's credentials instead of responding to the topic at hand. Typical of you when you can't support your position. Duck, Dodge and Hide. Grin

Qualifications? Hmm, lets see she was the first lady for 8 years and very involved in social issues, a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State so I would say she has a little political capital to work with.

As far as accomplishment since you asked here is short article written by a Fox News contributor no less. I could waste my time posting more detailed things she accomplished but you would just dismiss them so why bother. Besides other have posted them before.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/leslie-marshall/2014/02/19/hillary-clintons-accomplishments-speak-for-themselves

Like I said I am really looking forward to your whining posts for 8 years after she gets elected in 2016. 😉


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 5:32 pm
alloak41
(@alloak41)
Posts: 3169
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

Like I said I am really looking forward to your whining posts for 8 years after she gets elected in 2016. 😉

Is that fact or opinion?


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 6:13 pm
Muleman1994
(@muleman1994)
Posts: 4923
Member
 

Hillary baggage keeps piling up:

List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies

You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.

Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.

Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.

1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee

Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire

“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord

The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11

Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary

During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act

Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa

Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)

Tomorrow is another day with a good chance of another lie.

Lucky for us Democrats the majority of "low info" voters don't care about these trivial BS "lies" you posted so Hillary will win running away in 2016. You have 2 years Mule so I suggest you start working your Hillary hate post now so you have a lot of material to whine about here after she wins. Grin

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

[Edited on 10/30/2014 by Bill_Graham]

________________________________________________

At least you are consistent. Every time you read something you don't like you call it a lie.
That is common amongst liberals.
The truth hurts eh?

I'm still waiting for you to post and accomplishment of Hillary.

You must have reading comprehension Mule I never said they were not true I was on referencing the title of your post 'Hillary verified lies" and that they are BS trivial nitpicking on by conservatives and will have no impact on Hillary getting elected.

I look forward to your whining after Hillary gets elected so if I was you I would start working on my material now. Grin

_______________________________________

Why should any one vote for Hillary?
What are her qualifications for the job?

Changing the subject again eh Mule? using your old fallback when painted into a corner of challenging Hillary's credentials instead of responding to the topic at hand. Typical of you when you can't support your position. Duck, Dodge and Hide. Grin

Qualifications? Hmm, lets see she was the first lady for 8 years and very involved in social issues, a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State so I would say she has a little political capital to work with.

As far as accomplishment since you asked here is short article written by a Fox News contributor no less. I could waste my time posting more detailed things she accomplished but you would just dismiss them so why bother. Besides other have posted them before.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/leslie-marshall/2014/02/19/hillary-clintons-accomplishments-speak-for-themselves

Like I said I am really looking forward to your whining posts for 8 years after she gets elected in 2016. 😉

__________________________________________________________

first lady for 8 years and very involved in social issues,

- Accomplished nothing. Tried a gov’t healthcare insurance takeover and her husband and her own party freaked out. She was sent back to the Easy Wing.
- Apparently even her husband wouldn’t have sex with her.

a U.S. Senator

- Authored no legislation. Nothing.
- She did spend most of her time running for president (just like obama

and Secretary of State

- Zero accomplishments. No trade agreements, negotiated to treaties and every time there was a terrorist attack she was off on a small island in the South Pacific dancing with the locals all liquored up.
- How’d that “Reset” with Russia work out?

Even her own State Department, when asked on camera what were her accomplishments their spokesman said “umm, ahh, I’ll have to get back to you about that”


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 6:19 pm
alloak41
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Posts: 3169
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Topic starter
 

Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion.

Obviously.

Very profound thought. The depth never ceases to amaze.

It's approaching 5:00 P.M. Isn't it time for your cocktail?

At least we attempt to stay on the subject matter. Unlike yourself, always gearing your response toward some snide comment about a fellow poster. Are you trying to impress someone?

Besides, I don't drink. But thanks for asking.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 6:25 pm
MartinD28
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Posts: 2855
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Other presidents learn from their mistakes and grow in office. This one has never made a mistake, at least one that he's acknowledged, thinks he knows everything and actually knows virtually nothing. We would be much better off having someone who knows nothing about these issues but knows how to hire smart experts and listen to their advice. He is the worst president of the 20th century by a magnitude.

And of course you forget to mention in your last sentence that would be your opinion.

Obviously.

Very profound thought. The depth never ceases to amaze.

It's approaching 5:00 P.M. Isn't it time for your cocktail?

At least we attempt to stay on the subject matter. Unlike yourself, always gearing your response toward some snide comment about a fellow poster. Are you trying to impress someone?

Besides, I don't drink. But thanks for asking.

Get a little snarky...again? This coming from you who labeled Hillary an alcoholic.

As far as impressing someone - the only person I have to impress is myself. I'm not here to impress anyone. That's not my style.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 6:53 pm
alloak41
(@alloak41)
Posts: 3169
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

Hillary Clinton is the topic of the thread.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 7:37 pm
jkeller
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Posts: 2961
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Hillary Clinton is the topic of the thread.

Says the guy who swerved onto Mitt Romney in this thread.


 
Posted : October 30, 2014 7:43 pm
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