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OriginalGoober
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?


 
Posted : December 19, 2016 12:57 pm
Muleman1994
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

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Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

For reasons unknown they cling to their celebrities and corrupt liberal media:

Martin Sheen makes big mistake as he pitches elector not to vote for Trump

A group of Hollywood actor-vists are leading the effort to convince electors not to vote for President-elect Donald Trump on Monday, a hastily-arranged last-ditch bid that has led to at least one embarrassing mistake.

Martin Sheen, who played fictitious President Josiah Barlett on “The West Wing,” is featured in a personalized video designed to sway a Kansas elector, Politico reported. The piece is titled “Mr. Ashley McMillan” and Sheen implores “Mr. McMillan” to follow the example of America’s Founding Fathers. He’s hopeful that McMillan will switch his vote and become one of the 37 Republican electors required to possibly deny Trump the presidency.

Just one problem with Sheen’s pitch: Ashley McMillan is not a man.

“It’s my job to represent the people of Kansas on Monday. It was Martin Sheen’s job to get my name right. He failed. I won’t,” McMillan, who plans to vote for Trump, told The Daily Caller.

Sheen is joined in the main, non-personalized Unite for America video by the likes of “Will & Grace” actress Debra Messing, “Better Call Saul” star Bob Odenkirk and musician Moby.

“I’m not asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton,” Moby says during the ad, as soft piano music plays beneath his voice.

“What is evident is that Donald Trump lacks more than the qualifications to be president,” “M.A.S.H.” actor Mike Farrell says, with Messing delivering the blow: “He lacks the necessary stability.”

Sheen says the electors have “the opportunity to go down in the books as an American hero” if they don’t vote for Trump.

Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway on Sunday dismissed the effort as “out of work actors and actresses embarrassing themselves.”

“One guy played the president on the show ‘The West Wing.’ He’s not the president going to the West Wing. That’s Donald Trump,” Conway told Fox News’ Howard Kurtz on “Media Buzz.”

Trump is in line to get 306 of the 538 electoral votes under the state-by-state distribution of electors used to choose presidents since 1789.

The Associated Press tried to reach all 538 electors and was able to interview more than 330 of them. Many reported getting tens of thousands of emails, calls and letters asking them to vote against Trump.

But the canvass found overwhelming support for the system, and the nominee, among Republican electors. The AP found only one pledged to Trump who will refuse to vote for him.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/12/19/martin-sheen-makes-big-mistake-as-pitches-elector-not-to-vote-for-trump.html

Oh well, they lost again.


 
Posted : December 19, 2016 1:32 pm
anthonyspare
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

+1


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 4:36 am
alloak41
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Probably not. It's doubtful the left will ever view President Trump as legitimate. All the pre-election speeches we heard about honoring and accepting election results were nothing but hot air.


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 5:13 am
BoytonBrother
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Or you fools could just not pay attention to it if it bothers you so much.


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 5:43 am
alloak41
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Or you fools could just not pay attention to it if it bothers you so much.

Bother? I'm enjoying it.


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 7:20 am
IPowrie
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Probably not. It's doubtful the left will ever view President Trump as legitimate. All the pre-election speeches we heard about honoring and accepting election results were nothing but hot air.

He is the next president. Just don't think he'll be a good one.


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 8:43 am
IPowrie
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

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Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 8:52 am
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He's the President, I'll respect that fact as with every President. However, like any other American, I am not obligated to anything past that.


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 9:33 am
alloak41
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

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Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.

Should we just let California and New York voters decide, and forget everyone else?


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 9:38 am
Bhawk
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

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Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.

If you think about it...

65.8 million voted for Hillary
62.9 million voted for Trump
6.8 million voted for Johnson/Stein/McMullin/Castle
Around 200 million people are registered to vote, but only 57% or so showed up, so...

Around 137 million people didn't vote for Trump. 😛


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 9:40 am
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California totals:

Hillary Clinton Democrat 8,753,788 61.5%

Donald J. Trump Republican 4,483,810 31.5%


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 10:44 am
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Should we just let California and New York voters decide, and forget everyone else?

If you are under the age of 30 and reside in SoCal, the answer is a resounding Yes.


 
Posted : December 20, 2016 10:05 pm
IPowrie
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

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Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.

Should we just let California and New York voters decide, and forget everyone else?

No, I'd like to see the states go away from the winner takes all for the electoral votes. Maybe base it off the actual percentage of the vote you received in that state. I think it would better represent how the country voted. You would have to get rid of the 270 to win.

As an example Michigan has 16 electoral votes.

Trump got 47.6% of the vote so he'd get 7.616
Clinton got 47.3& of the vote so she'd get 7.568
Johnson got 3.6% of the voter so he'd get .576
Stein got 1.1% of the vote so she'd get .176
Castle got .4% of the vote so he'd get .064


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 7:37 am
IPowrie
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California totals:

Hillary Clinton Democrat 8,753,788 61.5%

Donald J. Trump Republican 4,483,810 31.5%

So using the logic of Kid Rock's shirt that would make Trump a Dumbf**kistani 😛


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 7:44 am
BrerRabbit
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Kid Rock's shirt. OK . . . thanks for citing your source.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 8:18 am
Muleman1994
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California totals:

Hillary Clinton Democrat 8,753,788 61.5%

Donald J. Trump Republican 4,483,810 31.5%

So using the logic of Kid Rock's shirt that would make Trump a Dumbf**kistani 😛

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No, Donald trump didn't vote for the now disgraced Hillary Clinton.

Trying to change the law after losing is nothing more than not being able to accept that the left lost.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 8:19 am
BrerRabbit
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What would make more sense would be Dumbf*ckistan and Dumberf*ckistan.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 8:20 am
nebish
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I wouldn't buy or wear that shirt, but atleast it is made in USA 😉

http://kidrock.warnerbrosrecords.com/kid-rocks-america-unisex-t-shirt-2.html


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 8:33 am
IPowrie
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California totals:

Hillary Clinton Democrat 8,753,788 61.5%

Donald J. Trump Republican 4,483,810 31.5%

So using the logic of Kid Rock's shirt that would make Trump a Dumbf**kistani 😛

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No, Donald trump didn't vote for the now disgraced Hillary Clinton.

Trying to change the law after losing is nothing more than not being able to accept that the left lost.

I've felt this way for a long time. I see it as a way to end the two party monopoly on this country. That should be the long term goal of any election reform.

How do you know who Trump voted for? He could have gone into the booth and voted for nobody because he had to send a tweet 😛


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 8:44 am
alloak41
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

______________________________________________________________________________________

Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.

If you think about it...

65.8 million voted for Hillary
62.9 million voted for Trump
6.8 million voted for Johnson/Stein/McMullin/Castle
Around 200 million people are registered to vote, but only 57% or so showed up, so...

Around 137 million people didn't vote for Trump. 😛

But alas, they voted for Trump in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Democrats would be well served to ignore the popular vote count (California) and figure out why they lost those States.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 10:48 am
IPowrie
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

______________________________________________________________________________________

Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.

If you think about it...

65.8 million voted for Hillary
62.9 million voted for Trump
6.8 million voted for Johnson/Stein/McMullin/Castle
Around 200 million people are registered to vote, but only 57% or so showed up, so...

Around 137 million people didn't vote for Trump. 😛

But alas, they voted for Trump in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Democrats would be well served to ignore the popular vote count (California) and figure out why they lost those States.

Enough voters bought Trump's sales pitch.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 1:09 pm
alloak41
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

______________________________________________________________________________________

Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.

If you think about it...

65.8 million voted for Hillary
62.9 million voted for Trump
6.8 million voted for Johnson/Stein/McMullin/Castle
Around 200 million people are registered to vote, but only 57% or so showed up, so...

Around 137 million people didn't vote for Trump. 😛

But alas, they voted for Trump in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Democrats would be well served to ignore the popular vote count (California) and figure out why they lost those States.

Enough voters bought Trump's sales pitch.

Hopefully that's as far as the Dems will go. Blame the voters. Best of luck with that non-starter.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 3:16 pm
BoytonBrother
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But alas, they voted for Trump in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Democrats would be well served to ignore the popular vote count (California) and figure out why they lost those States.

Agreed. I think the reason why Trump won, and also the reason why the polls were wrong, is because Trump inspired a demographic of voters that were never interested in politics to go out and vote. This is the difference between Obama and Hillary. Obama also inspired a new generation of voters who never would have voted if someone else other than Obama was nominated. Since they are considered "non-voters", they are never targeted for polls. The millenial liberals that came out in droves for Obama have a counterpart, and they too came out in droves for Trump, and undetectable to the pollster's radar (as I predicted almost 2 years ago on this site, a few days after he made the Mexican comments). Obama and Trump both inspired the disillusioned, whereas Hillary failed to do so. The disillusioned awoke for Obama and Trump, but stayed home for Hillary.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 3:45 pm
OriginalGoober
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But alas, they voted for Trump in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Democrats would be well served to ignore the popular vote count (California) and figure out why they lost those States.

Agreed. I think the reason why Trump won, and also the reason why the polls were wrong, is because Trump inspired a demographic of voters that were never interested in politics to go out and vote. This is the difference between Obama and Hillary. Obama also inspired a new generation of voters who never would have voted if someone else other than Obama was nominated. Since they are considered "non-voters", they are never targeted for polls. The millenial liberals that came out in droves for Obama have a counterpart, and they too came out in droves for Trump, and undetectable to the pollster's radar (as I predicted almost 2 years ago on this site, a few days after he made the Mexican comments). Obama and Trump both inspired the disillusioned, whereas Hillary failed to do so. The disillusioned awoke for Obama and Trump, but stayed home for Hillary.

You didn't predict squat and still have zero understanding about what happened based on your comment above. Your whole prediction was based on some warped view of some racist awakening.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 5:13 pm
IPowrie
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Can we move past the first stage (denial) now?

______________________________________________________________________________________

Not a chance.
The left is so bitter and owned by hate the only thing they believe is controlled by the corrupt liberal media they simply cannot accept the will of The American People.

He won the electoral college. But he was not even close to winning in a landslide. 53.8% of voters did not vote for him.

If you think about it...

65.8 million voted for Hillary
62.9 million voted for Trump
6.8 million voted for Johnson/Stein/McMullin/Castle
Around 200 million people are registered to vote, but only 57% or so showed up, so...

Around 137 million people didn't vote for Trump. 😛

But alas, they voted for Trump in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Democrats would be well served to ignore the popular vote count (California) and figure out why they lost those States.

Enough voters bought Trump's sales pitch.

Hopefully that's as far as the Dems will go. Blame the voters. Best of luck with that non-starter.

I think the Dems need to reorganize and drain the swamp in 2018. We all know that Trump has no intention of doing it.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 5:42 pm
nebish
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There are many reasons Trump won the election. I don't think it should be over simplified.

I am all for some kind of system that gives 3rd party candidates a chance and break up the duopoly in Washington. I don't think states should be winner take all. But I also don't think the elections should be decided in all the large population cities in this country. Yes, we know that Clinton got a good number more votes, but alot of those votes were concentrated in smaller geographic areas compared to the larger geographic area that Trump won despite netting less overall votes.

Maybe the electoral college is the right balance, I don't know. But for certain the door needs to be opened for 3rd parties.


 
Posted : December 21, 2016 7:01 pm
BoytonBrother
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Maybe the electoral college is the right balance, I don't know. But for certain the door needs to be opened for 3rd parties.

I always wondered why Trump didn't run as an independent. That would have been great if he did, opening the door for a permant legit 3rd party.


 
Posted : December 22, 2016 7:01 am
Muleman1994
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Third Party candidates have a long history of being way out there.


 
Posted : December 22, 2016 8:06 am
BrerRabbit
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Trump and Sanders both were 3rd party candidates in a way, working within the two party system. Trump has redefined the Republican Party. It will be interesting to see if he will piss off mainstream Republicans, they might get more than they bargained for.


 
Posted : December 22, 2016 9:21 am
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