Can't watch the vid - just gotta say I had a cop push a shotgun into my back when I was on a payphone once, was told to put the phone down slowly and if I moved a muscle I would die. Literally, if I had an involuntary twitch or sneezed or some reaction I would have been blown away. Turned out to be mistaken identity, some other longhair. no apology for scaring the hell out of me. Never forgot it for thirty years.

When you are approached, you stay as still as possible, hands on the wheel, you don't know if the cop just had a gun pulled on him an hour ago. It's terrible, but it is just the way it is. It sucks.

The answer to your question is yes, expect the very worst.

Cops are way too quick to snap these days. Most are decent, but there are many out there that will shoot first. Both of these recent shootings portray the force as goons that are above the law.

i have had lots of interactions with the police....lol......too many stories to tell. most are pretty funny.....i got let go alot.....sometimes not. never had life threatened though or had a gun or taser pulled. i did have a gun pulled on me once when i worked at a Harley shop.....was a biker from the Cossacks....president of the club.....had killed his vice president 1-2 days before......was trying to get some cash to run to texas. i laughed at him and told he would prob not make it out of the shop alive. he put gun away and left. i found out about the murder a few days later.

Watched the vid - pretty chilling, beyond sad. Found myself looking for survival lessons. I think if the victim had kept his hands up and said he had a legal concealed weapon, and did not move at all, or reach for his wallet even if the cop yelled at him to do it, he would have been told to get out of the car. Which would have been tricky, to move without getting shot. You have to ask permission to move, even after being told to, and keep your hands out where they are visible, that's all they are doing is watching your hands.

Most of my interaction with the cops has been by the book and havent been followed or harassed. One thing i make it a point to do is have my driving papers up to date and never let a burnt out light go for more than a few days or until i can fix on the weekend. Why drive around with a "pull me over" invitation. No thanks.

supposedly he did tell officer that he had a weapon and a license. officer supposedly asked him for drivers license and registration and maybe gun license. when he went for his papers he got shot. even as a white guy i think for now on i will ask the officer to get me out of the car and get my paperwork himself....hell even handcuff me.......i don't do drugs anymore....well weed....and i don't drink and drive anymore. and if i did happen to have some weed on me....i don't care...arrest me....so what....i'll deal with it in court. and after sentencing i'll still smoke it. if they wanna lock me up for it.....good for them and the public....pay for it. i can find someone to take care of my cats and my business will be fine without me or a few weeks.

just amazing killing a guy for that.

[Edited on 7/8/2016 by LeglizHemp]

Smart moves. Yeah, actually I have been treated amazingly well by cops, let off the hook lots of times. Just last summer a state trooper let me go, no warning, nothing, after nailing me for doing 90 in a 55 zone. Told him I had to get home to look after my kid because me ex was going to an AA meeting. He said "You're kidding! That isn't an excuse!" But then he said, look, I'm letting you off but you are going to have to listen to me, and started describing graphic highway horror, do you know what it's like to pick up a person smeared over a quarter mile of pavement, that kind of thing.

It was brilliant. I have not gone more than ten over since. Good cop!

summer is getting hot......protests are growing over the recent shootings......scary stuff....trump is an ass and will try and inflame things i'm afraid........sad

Yeah brother... pretty bad. Knew I shouldn't have clicked on that. That video ruined me- I can't stop seeinghow the guy was just going down, and that cop was just stiffarming that cannon at the guy as he bled away... I'm usually pretty good about letting the world go by on its miserable way, but this one really got thru. The guy wasn't being aggro or anything. It's worse than any horror movie. And it is happening a lot.

Gotta say, on this one, it looks like the cop was out for blood, that or a really green rookie who has no business with a badge and a gun, or both, or it doesn't really matter because he just took someone's life for a busted tail-light.

If it is so damn dangerous to pull people over and the cops are that freaked out, they need to figure a different approach.

i did hear that the officer was crying afterwards at the scene.......whatever that says about what happened

summer is getting hot......protests are growing over the recent shootings......scary stuff....trump is an ass and will try and inflame things i'm afraid........sad

Too sooon. Trump values all lives.

http://time.com/4397086/minnesota-shooting-philando-castile-role-model-school/

Colleagues and parents on Thursday remembered Philando Castile as an ambitious man who served as a role model for hundreds of children before he was fatally shot by a police officer during a traffic stop in Minnesota.

Castile, who was known by friends as Phil, was a cafeteria supervisor at J.J. Hill Montessori Magnet School in Saint Paul, Minn., where he memorized the names of the 500 children he served every day — along with their food allergies, his former coworker said.

“He remembered their names. He remembered who couldn’t have milk. He knew what they could have to eat and what they couldn’t,” Joan Edman, a recently retired paraprofessional at the school, told TIME. “This was a real guy. He made a real contribution. Yes, black lives matter. But this man mattered.”

click link to read more about this fine man

summer is getting hot......protests are growing over the recent shootings......scary stuff....trump is an ass and will try and inflame things i'm afraid........sad

Too sooon. Trump values all lives.

Trump values his life

Serious violence being reported in dallas. Officer down. Not good.

[Edited on 7/8/2016 by OriginalGoober]

I removed my opinion now is not the time to discuss the current state of race .

Politics shmolitics. Philando Castile ain't voting.

Politics shmolitics. Philando Castile ain't voting.

true dat

When I went for my concealed carry permit, I was told how to respond to a police officer in my car, if I am carrying my weapon. first and formost keep my hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. second tell officer I am a ccw holder and I have my weapon on me, and HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO PROCEDE OFFICER. I believe he just reached in his pocket, the officer responded by shooting him. sad stuff, but I believe the officer will walk on this one.

Too bad the video didn't capture what happened before the shooting, but it seems he did tell the officer initally that he had a concealed carry permit and had a weapon with him. What happened after that we don't know.

Police officers are more than three times more likely to be killed on the job in states with high gun ownership than in states with low gun ownership, according to a study recently published in the American Journal of Public Health. Between 1996 and 2010, there were 0.31 officer fatalities for every 10,000 employed officers in low gun ownership states. But there were 0.95 fatalities per 10,000 officers in the high gun ownership states. Every 10 percent increase in gun ownership correlated with 10 more officer deaths over the study period.

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2015.302749

What did the Texas open carry law help in an active shooter situation. 1 it falsely identified someone in the crowd as a possible suspect. 2. That guy actually turned his weapon over to the police. So carrying his weapon really served no purpose in an active shooter situation. But he got to swing his D$*k around and act like a cowboy before the chit got real

So much for having a armed public....

i can't decide if this video makes me sick or angry or sad or all 3 and more. busted tail light my ass, that is no reason to kill a man, fuck there is no reason period to kill a man. why the hell does a cop have his gun drawn for a simple traffic violation? should i expect the next time i get pulled over for a rolling stop to have a weapon pointed at me....a white guy?

in the old days a good ass kicking is what they did to people. today they are afraid to get physical and turn to their gun or taser first. so many cops are former military and traumatized from multiple deployments, maybe that is the problem. just makes me mad.......why the hell does a cop have his gun out for a traffic violation. stupid stupid stupid

When they have their guns drawn for a traffic violation, it could be the neighborhood is known to have a large percentage of people with handguns, legal and illegal and they feel they could be shot even just for pulling somebody over. I know someone who was in Jackson Heights, Queens and that happened to him. Jackson Heights has a large Latino population and lots of coke. The cops who patrol there are used to shootings and crimes, they have to react with caution to protect themselves. If a cop stops you and you start reaching for something in your pocket while he is talking to you, what should he assume? He cannot wait and see, because he could end up dead if he does.

[Edited on 7/10/2016 by gina]

i can't decide if this video makes me sick or angry or sad or all 3 and more. busted tail light my ass, that is no reason to kill a man, fuck there is no reason period to kill a man. why the hell does a cop have his gun drawn for a simple traffic violation? should i expect the next time i get pulled over for a rolling stop to have a weapon pointed at me....a white guy?

in the old days a good ass kicking is what they did to people. today they are afraid to get physical and turn to their gun or taser first. so many cops are former military and traumatized from multiple deployments, maybe that is the problem. just makes me mad.......why the hell does a cop have his gun out for a traffic violation. stupid stupid stupid

You said it, 'in the good ole days' whoever was being uppity would just get an ass whippin', but now people sue the cops, they take real time videos and put them up on you tube. The cops know that nowadays, people will just shoot them so they have to worry. In the old days the only people who might shoot a cop would be someone who was an escaped convict or someone who had previously been in jail and did not want to go back under any circumstances. Now it's like oh that sob is gonna start something with me, I'll just blow him away, I don't have to put up with this. That's how people think and respond. They don't think that they have to answer to the cop if they don't want to. It's cultural and societal changes, disregard, disrespect with certain people in authority. Justified or not, the world is different now.

Why did Eric Garner not comply when the cop approached him in NYC? He felt like he did not want to be bothered with whatever the cop had to say. The cop used a chokehold on him, cut off his air supply, and Mr. Garner died as a result. Why was that technique necessary to subdue with the intent to arrest someone? Because they don't stop, they don't comply. He could have just gotten a ticket for selling loose cigarettes, but instead he ended up dead.

Chokeholds should not be necessary/used. The cops respond with added force because people are ignoring or resisting them so they cannot do their jobs. There are problems on both sides. People need to stop and comply, and the police need to not use excessive force to prove they are in charge. Nowadays, both sides are wrong and that is what is going on.

[Edited on 7/13/2016 by gina]

i can't decide if this video makes me sick or angry or sad or all 3 and more. busted tail light my ass, that is no reason to kill a man, fuck there is no reason period to kill a man. why the hell does a cop have his gun drawn for a simple traffic violation? should i expect the next time i get pulled over for a rolling stop to have a weapon pointed at me....a white guy?

in the old days a good ass kicking is what they did to people. today they are afraid to get physical and turn to their gun or taser first. so many cops are former military and traumatized from multiple deployments, maybe that is the problem. just makes me mad.......why the hell does a cop have his gun out for a traffic violation. stupid stupid stupid

You said it, 'in the good ole days' whoever was being uppity would just get an ass whippin', but now people sue the cops, they take real time videos and put them up on you tube. The cops know that nowadays, people will just shoot them so they have to worry. In the old days the only people who might shoot a cop would be someone who was an escaped convict or someone who had previously been in jail and did not want to go back under any circumstances. Now it's like oh that sob is gonna start something with me, I'll just blow him away, I don't have to put up with this. That's how people think and respond. They don't think that they have to answer to the cop if they don't want to. It's cultural and societal changes, disregard, disrespect with certain people in authority. Justified or not, the world is different now.

Why did Eric Garner not comply when the cop approached him in NYC? He felt like he did not want to be bothered with whatever the cop had to say. The cop used a chokehold on him, cut off his air supply, and Mr. Garner died as a result. Why was that technique necessary to subdue with the intent to arrest someone? Because they don't stop, they don't comply. He could have just gotten a ticket for selling loose cigarettes, but instead he ended up dead.

Chokeholds should not be necessary/used. The cops respond with added force because people are ignoring or resisting them so they cannot do their jobs. There are problems on both sides. People need to stop and comply, and the police need to not use excessive force to prove they are in charge. Nowadays, both sides are wrong and that is what is going on.

[Edited on 7/13/2016 by gina]

eric garner...the kehoe brothers the bundy's......many examples no matter the race or religion.......but yes gina......its not all black or white or yellow or brown.....that said....its not all cops either.....its just weird

The police officer saw the butt of a gun on the criminal's person.
Police Officers are routinely shot by people in cars at traffic stops.

Yea, this was a "Good Guy with a gun".

Right. Here is his criminal record:

9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession

Since all I've heard about for his "criminal" record are minor traffic violations, you'll have to excuse my doubting your listed rap sheet. Besides, if he had a rap sheet like that, including crimes against minors, he could not have been hired as a school employee. He would have probably also not have been able to get a conceal carry permit. I'm calling BS.

His arrest history is easily accessible online through the official Minnesota state website. None of what you posted exists there. Step out of your Stormfront/Fox/idiot cartoonist echo chamber and try reality.

[Edited on 7/15/2016 by rmack]

The police officer saw the butt of a gun on the criminal's person.
Police Officers are routinely shot by people in cars at traffic stops.

Yea, this was a "Good Guy with a gun".

Right. Here is his criminal record:

9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession

great guy

The police officer saw the butt of a gun on the criminal's person.
Police Officers are routinely shot by people in cars at traffic stops.

Yea, this was a "Good Guy with a gun".

Right. Here is his criminal record:

9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession

great guy

If you believe this then aren't you glad that a man like this can not only purchase guns but can also easily get a conceal carry permit? Background checks are good enough and don't need changes?

Or you don't believe this rap sheet. I'd like to know which one you believe.

The police officer saw the butt of a gun on the criminal's person.
Police Officers are routinely shot by people in cars at traffic stops.

Yea, this was a "Good Guy with a gun".

Right. Here is his criminal record:

9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession

great guy

dumbfuck, this is erroneous bullshit. Lies from muleman.

[Edited on 7/16/2016 by rmack]