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gina
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After the Southern flag is disposed of, banned and gotten rid of. the USA flag stands to be redesigned for the new world. Some have said they will get rid of the 13 stars that represented the original colonies, and put them in a circle, meaning global, one nation and later on that will be expanded to one world (as in one world order, as in new world order). It is a progression. Tearing down traditions before creating new ones. The Southern flag has it's place in the history of America, it is true it represented the beliefs of the people in the south, who did have slaves, but it was not just about slavery.

I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis. It seems to me if big boats just went to Africa to round up villagers, there would be more villagers than people trying to round them up, could they not have put up an uprising? Was martial law in place that they could not escape? Rural tribal peoples survived in their villages, they hunted, which means they had tools to kill animals with, could they not have used them on those who came to snatch them?

Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=new+world+flag&view=detailv2&&&id=E43488A3BF17FAF3ADAABF1EB80B8F3389719BA5&selectedIndex=186&ccid=bKOX6sZz&simid=608019850493954255&thid=JN.V%2b09wBJsPUII9OQpjlqTTw&ajaxhist=0


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 8:06 am
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Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

Palestein is losing. I suspect Israel will complete that holocaust over the next couple of decades.

Israel has superior weapons.

The slave traders had superior weapons Gina. Your ignorance does not excuse your racism.


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 9:09 am
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After the Southern flag is disposed of, banned and gotten rid of. the USA flag stands to be redesigned for the new world. Some have said they will get rid of the 13 stars that represented the original colonies, and put them in a circle, meaning global, one nation and later on that will be expanded to one world (as in one world order, as in new world order). It is a progression. Tearing down traditions before creating new ones. The Southern flag has it's place in the history of America, it is true it represented the beliefs of the people in the south, who did have slaves, but it was not just about slavery.

I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis. It seems to me if big boats just went to Africa to round up villagers, there would be more villagers than people trying to round them up, could they not have put up an uprising? Was martial law in place that they could not escape? Rural tribal peoples survived in their villages, they hunted, which means they had tools to kill animals with, could they not have used them on those who came to snatch them?

Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=new+world+flag&view=detailv2&&&id=E43488A3BF17FAF3ADAABF1EB80B8F3389719BA5&selectedIndex=186&ccid=bKOX6sZz&simid=608019850493954255&thid=JN.V%2b09wBJsPUII9OQpjlqTTw&ajaxhist=0

You don't know how Africans became slaves? really? with all the useless research you do trying to prove the Illuminati is taking over the world and you don't have time to google and learn about one of the biggest tragedy's in human history?

So what is your point that the African's wanted to be slaves and liked it because life was better as a slave? Do you think the Jews wanted to be rounded up and sent to the death camps by the Nazi's? or was that just made up by the allies and Jews? Are you a holocaust denier as well?

Go spend some of your internet surfing time educating yourself about slavery before you come here and make a fool out of yourself claiming the slaves were well treated and had it good being slaves.

[Edited on 7/3/2015 by Bill_Graham]


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 9:46 am
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In case you didn't know, Masters Champion Bubba Watson owns one of the original General Lee automobiles. He's decided to have the Confederate flag on the roof painted over.

Isn't this Confederate Flag blowback going a little too far? I've never wanted one, but I'm going to get one now.


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 10:13 am
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the USA flag stands to be redesigned for the new world. Some have said they will get rid of the 13 stars that represented the original colonies

This thread just keeps getting better and better! The flag hasn't had 13 stars for over 200 years. Did you mean the 13 stripes? And how are they going to put 13 stripes in a circle?

I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis.

As far as your slave stuff... no comment. Read a book. Actually most of the rounding up of villagers was done by Muslim slave raiders, who then took them from the interior to the European ships. I can't believe someone can be as ignorant as you are! DUH!!!!

[Edited on 7/3/2015 by BrerRabbit]


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 11:16 am
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I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to.

So a couple of million Africans migrated to the US then approached the different plantations and asked to be slaves?????

Hi Master....can you please put me to work because I can't read...and when you get mad please whip me...If I try to run away I agree to be hamstringed and maimed for life....If you need a real big guy then please make sure you breed us like stock picking the largest and strongest of each gender then take those boys and sell them as laborers to another person.....

So is that your concept of how it all went down???

Take a few hours and watch Roots.....it'll answer a few questions you have about how African people got here


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 4:45 pm
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This is hilarious. The language is definitely NSFW.

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

I think the video just about covers it from all sides, some of the posts in this thread too. God help us all…

[Edited on 7/4/2015 by StratDal]


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 6:26 pm
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. I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis. It seems to me if big boats just went to Africa to round up villagers, there would be more villagers than people trying to round them up, could they not have put up an uprising? Was martial law in place that they could not escape? Rural tribal peoples survived in their villages, they hunted, which means they had tools to kill animals with, could they not have used them on those who came to snatch them?

Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

The people in Africa that were taken as slaves actually bought tickets to get on the slave boats..... 🙁


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 8:15 pm
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. I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis. It seems to me if big boats just went to Africa to round up villagers, there would be more villagers than people trying to round them up, could they not have put up an uprising? Was martial law in place that they could not escape? Rural tribal peoples survived in their villages, they hunted, which means they had tools to kill animals with, could they not have used them on those who came to snatch them?

Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

The people in Africa that were taken as slaves actually bought tickets to get on the slave boats..... 🙁


 
Posted : July 3, 2015 8:15 pm
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If only gina were the only one.......................

As a high school teacher I am constantly amazed on a daily basis by what so many of our youth think and the total absence of desire to read and the lack of critical thinking skills or any understanding as to why they may be important.

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill


 
Posted : July 4, 2015 4:11 am
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After the Southern flag is disposed of, banned and gotten rid of. the USA flag stands to be redesigned for the new world. Some have said they will get rid of the 13 stars that represented the original colonies, and put them in a circle, meaning global, one nation and later on that will be expanded to one world (as in one world order, as in new world order). It is a progression. Tearing down traditions before creating new ones. The Southern flag has it's place in the history of America, it is true it represented the beliefs of the people in the south, who did have slaves, but it was not just about slavery.

I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis. It seems to me if big boats just went to Africa to round up villagers, there would be more villagers than people trying to round them up, could they not have put up an uprising? Was martial law in place that they could not escape? Rural tribal peoples survived in their villages, they hunted, which means they had tools to kill animals with, could they not have used them on those who came to snatch them?

Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=new+world+flag&view=detailv2&&&id=E43488A3BF17FAF3ADAABF1EB80B8F3389719BA5&selectedIndex=186&ccid=bKOX6sZz&simid=608019850493954255&thid=JN.V%2b09wBJsPUII9OQpjlqTTw&ajaxhist=0

You don't know how Africans became slaves? really? with all the useless research you do trying to prove the Illuminati is taking over the world and you don't have time to google and learn about one of the biggest tragedy's in human history?

So what is your point that the African's wanted to be slaves and liked it because life was better as a slave? Do you think the Jews wanted to be rounded up and sent to the death camps by the Nazi's? or was that just made up by the allies and Jews? Are you a holocaust denier as well?

Go spend some of your internet surfing time educating yourself about slavery before you come here and make a fool out of yourself claiming the slaves were well treated and had it good being slaves.

[Edited on 7/3/2015 by Bill_Graham]

I asked a simple question. How did all those Africans become slaves in the first place. Nobody could answer it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

Slavery can be traced back to the earliest records, such as the Code of Hammurabi (c. 1760 BC), which refers to it as an established institution.[5] Slavery is rare among hunter-gatherer populations, as it is developed as a system of social stratification.

Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization. The Byzantine-Ottoman wars and the Ottoman wars in Europe resulted in the taking of large numbers of Christian slaves. Similarly, Christians sold Muslim slaves captured in war and also the Islamic World was engaged in slavery throughout its history. Slavery became common within the British Isles during the Middle Ages. Britain played a prominent role in the Atlantic slave trade, especially after 1600. Slavery was a legal institution in all of the 13 American colonies and Canada (acquired by Britain in 1763).

Evidence of slavery predates written records, the practice of slavery would have proliferated after the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolution about 11,000 years ago.[citation needed]

Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[13]

Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war, child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves.[14]

Remarks: So it seems that slavery went back thousands of years, it did not start with Europeans putting Africans in chains. Slavery itself actually goes back to Biblical times where the slaves were servants (helpers). Why it happened then was because of original tribal peoples transgressions, having sex outside of their marriages, creating children. Look at Cain and Abel. One was a bad child, one was good. The bad one displayed all the evil tendencies man still has, and went around wreaking havoc. Disharmony set into the tribes, wars resulted, people were taken prisoners and that's how slavery really began.

SLAVERY BEGAN DUE TO WARS, NOTHING ELSE.

I do not accept collective guilt for the situation Africans ended up in. I was not there, my ancestors were not there doing it. With regards to the situations against people who were put in Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, well these are the times we are living in now. We have some say over what happens during the times we live in. And people accepting those conditions (inhumanity) is something they should feel guilty over. Muslims have been fighting for thousands of years, they do not accept slavery or servitude to human taskmasters, if the Africans were too stupid to launch some jihad back when they were being put into slavery, then they are partially responsible for what happened to them.

Why didn't they launch a revolt?

They didn't run away from their plantations until the civil war days.

They accepted their servitude (which does not mean it was justified), but there is a lesson to be learned from slavery.

You think it cannot happen again? It may not happen to the Africans, but how far away from slavery is anyone else? When a government begins dismantling the Constitution of the country that guarantees people rights and freedoms, the people need to wake up.


 
Posted : July 4, 2015 8:13 am
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I've always said that it's our poor education system, and poor selection of talent among our teachers, that is a major problem in this country. We need to be educating our children on how to navigate through today's world of propaganda from left and right extremists, that they must consider the sources of their information, and be able to recognize bias when they see it. We need a much better social studies program nationwide that addresses these issues, in addition to the standard math, science, history, etc. As times change, so should the classes offered in our schools, at a young age. Students are disillusioned today because our teachers are practicing ancient methods that no longer work. They lecture instead of engage. They read to students, instead of teach and explain. Their tests don't really test anything, and there's no inspiration....generally speaking. Sometimes I believe that if students are disillusioned and uninspired, it's the school system's fault for not being creative and innovative.


 
Posted : July 4, 2015 8:15 am
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quote:

quote:
After the Southern flag is disposed of, banned and gotten rid of. the USA flag stands to be redesigned for the new world. Some have said they will get rid of the 13 stars that represented the original colonies, and put them in a circle, meaning global, one nation and later on that will be expanded to one world (as in one world order, as in new world order). It is a progression. Tearing down traditions before creating new ones. The Southern flag has it's place in the history of America, it is true it represented the beliefs of the people in the south, who did have slaves, but it was not just about slavery.

I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis. It seems to me if big boats just went to Africa to round up villagers, there would be more villagers than people trying to round them up, could they not have put up an uprising? Was martial law in place that they could not escape? Rural tribal peoples survived in their villages, they hunted, which means they had tools to kill animals with, could they not have used them on those who came to snatch them?

Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=new+world+flag&view=detailv2&&a mp;&id=E43488A3BF17FAF3ADAABF1EB80B8F3389719BA5&selectedIndex=186&a mp;ccid=bKOX6sZz&simid=608019850493954255&thid=JN.V%2b09wBJsPUII9OQ pjlqTTw&ajaxhist=0

You don't know how Africans became slaves? really? with all the useless research you do trying to prove the Illuminati is taking over the world and you don't have time to google and learn about one of the biggest tragedy's in human history?

So what is your point that the African's wanted to be slaves and liked it because life was better as a slave? Do you think the Jews wanted to be rounded up and sent to the death camps by the Nazi's? or was that just made up by the allies and Jews? Are you a holocaust denier as well?

Go spend some of your internet surfing time educating yourself about slavery before you come here and make a fool out of yourself claiming the slaves were well treated and had it good being slaves.

[Edited on 7/3/2015 by Bill_Graham]

I asked a simple question. How did all those Africans become slaves in the first place. Nobody could answer it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

Slavery can be traced back to the earliest records, such as the Code of Hammurabi (c. 1760 BC), which refers to it as an established institution.[5] Slavery is rare among hunter-gatherer populations, as it is developed as a system of social stratification.

Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization. The Byzantine-Ottoman wars and the Ottoman wars in Europe resulted in the taking of large numbers of Christian slaves. Similarly, Christians sold Muslim slaves captured in war and also the Islamic World was engaged in slavery throughout its history. Slavery became common within the British Isles during the Middle Ages. Britain played a prominent role in the Atlantic slave trade, especially after 1600. Slavery was a legal institution in all of the 13 American colonies and Canada (acquired by Britain in 1763).

Evidence of slavery predates written records, the practice of slavery would have proliferated after the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolution about 11,000 years ago.[citation needed]

Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[13]

Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war, child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves.[14]

Remarks: So it seems that slavery went back thousands of years, it did not start with Europeans putting Africans in chains. Slavery itself actually goes back to Biblical times where the slaves were servants (helpers). Why it happened then was because of original tribal peoples transgressions, having sex outside of their marriages, creating children. Look at Cain and Abel. One was a bad child, one was good. The bad one displayed all the evil tendencies man still has, and went around wreaking havoc. Disharmony set into the tribes, wars resulted, people were taken prisoners and that's how slavery really began.

SLAVERY BEGAN DUE TO WARS, NOTHING ELSE.

I do not accept collective guilt for the situation Africans ended up in. I was not there, my ancestors were not there doing it. With regards to the situations against people who were put in Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, well these are the times we are living in now. We have some say over what happens during the times we live in. And people accepting those conditions (inhumanity) is something they should feel guilty over. Muslims have been fighting for thousands of years, they do not accept slavery or servitude to human taskmasters, if the Africans were too stupid to launch some jihad back when they were being put into slavery, then they are partially responsible for what happened to them.

Why didn't they launch a revolt?

They didn't run away from their plantations until the civil war days.

They accepted their servitude (which does not mean it was justified), but there is a lesson to be learned from slavery.

You think it cannot happen again? It may not happen to the Africans, but how far away from slavery is anyone else? When a government begins dismantling the Constitution of the country that guarantees people rights and freedoms, the people need to wake up.

You are a beast.


 
Posted : July 4, 2015 9:19 am
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After the Southern flag is disposed of, banned and gotten rid of. the USA flag stands to be redesigned for the new world. Some have said they will get rid of the 13 stars that represented the original colonies, and put them in a circle, meaning global, one nation and later on that will be expanded to one world (as in one world order, as in new world order). It is a progression. Tearing down traditions before creating new ones. The Southern flag has it's place in the history of America, it is true it represented the beliefs of the people in the south, who did have slaves, but it was not just about slavery.

I don't know how slaves became slaves, I don't know about these kidnappings people are referring to. I thought they were poor, uneducated and rounded up on that basis. It seems to me if big boats just went to Africa to round up villagers, there would be more villagers than people trying to round them up, could they not have put up an uprising? Was martial law in place that they could not escape? Rural tribal peoples survived in their villages, they hunted, which means they had tools to kill animals with, could they not have used them on those who came to snatch them?

Look at Palestine, the people have no weapons, but they use whatever they can find around, bricks, rubble, household implements to make bombs with, they don't go down without a fight, so how is it that millions of blacks became slaves? Can someone explain this?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=new+world+flag&view=detailv2&&&id=E43488A3BF17FAF3ADAABF1EB80B8F3389719BA5&selectedIndex=186&ccid=bKOX6sZz&simid=608019850493954255&thid=JN.V%2b09wBJsPUII9OQpjlqTTw&ajaxhist=0

You don't know how Africans became slaves? really? with all the useless research you do trying to prove the Illuminati is taking over the world and you don't have time to google and learn about one of the biggest tragedy's in human history?

So what is your point that the African's wanted to be slaves and liked it because life was better as a slave? Do you think the Jews wanted to be rounded up and sent to the death camps by the Nazi's? or was that just made up by the allies and Jews? Are you a holocaust denier as well?

Go spend some of your internet surfing time educating yourself about slavery before you come here and make a fool out of yourself claiming the slaves were well treated and had it good being slaves.

[Edited on 7/3/2015 by Bill_Graham]

I asked a simple question. How did all those Africans become slaves in the first place. Nobody could answer it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

Slavery can be traced back to the earliest records, such as the Code of Hammurabi (c. 1760 BC), which refers to it as an established institution.[5] Slavery is rare among hunter-gatherer populations, as it is developed as a system of social stratification.

Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization. The Byzantine-Ottoman wars and the Ottoman wars in Europe resulted in the taking of large numbers of Christian slaves. Similarly, Christians sold Muslim slaves captured in war and also the Islamic World was engaged in slavery throughout its history. Slavery became common within the British Isles during the Middle Ages. Britain played a prominent role in the Atlantic slave trade, especially after 1600. Slavery was a legal institution in all of the 13 American colonies and Canada (acquired by Britain in 1763).

Evidence of slavery predates written records, the practice of slavery would have proliferated after the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolution about 11,000 years ago.[citation needed]

Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[13]

Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war, child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves.[14]

Remarks: So it seems that slavery went back thousands of years, it did not start with Europeans putting Africans in chains. Slavery itself actually goes back to Biblical times where the slaves were servants (helpers). Why it happened then was because of original tribal peoples transgressions, having sex outside of their marriages, creating children. Look at Cain and Abel. One was a bad child, one was good. The bad one displayed all the evil tendencies man still has, and went around wreaking havoc. Disharmony set into the tribes, wars resulted, people were taken prisoners and that's how slavery really began.

SLAVERY BEGAN DUE TO WARS, NOTHING ELSE.

I do not accept collective guilt for the situation Africans ended up in. I was not there, my ancestors were not there doing it. With regards to the situations against people who were put in Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, well these are the times we are living in now. We have some say over what happens during the times we live in. And people accepting those conditions (inhumanity) is something they should feel guilty over. Muslims have been fighting for thousands of years, they do not accept slavery or servitude to human taskmasters, if the Africans were too stupid to launch some jihad back when they were being put into slavery, then they are partially responsible for what happened to them.

Why didn't they launch a revolt?

They didn't run away from their plantations until the civil war days.

They accepted their servitude (which does not mean it was justified), but there is a lesson to be learned from slavery.

You think it cannot happen again? It may not happen to the Africans, but how far away from slavery is anyone else? When a government begins dismantling the Constitution of the country that guarantees people rights and freedoms, the people need to wake up.

Ah, now I understand Gina the African Americans should feel guilty for accepting being slaves.

And by your logic it is the Jews fault that the Nazi's practiced genocide on them during WWII.

And the millions of Russians Stalin killed during his purges? Not Stalin's fault as they were asking for it.

Or the estimated Million plus people killed by the Khmer Rouge during the purges in Cambodia after the Vietnam War. They did not fight back so F**kem as it is their fault they were killed or subjugated.

Or how about all the innocent civilians being killed by ISIS for no apparent reason? They deserved it for not fighting back yes?

Thanks for setting me straight Gina all these years I thought all these people were innocent victims.


 
Posted : July 4, 2015 10:50 am
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What if the state of South Carolina removed the battle flag from the monument on the Capitol grounds and raised the Stars n' Bars in its place?

[Edited on 7/5/2015 by BIGV]


 
Posted : July 5, 2015 12:29 pm
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What if the state of South Carolina removed the battle flag from the monument on the Capitol grounds and raised the Stars n' Bras in its place?

You mean like this?


 
Posted : July 5, 2015 2:25 pm
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Good one...
Cool


 
Posted : July 5, 2015 2:41 pm
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Warren has some thoughts on the Confederate flag here:

http://radio.com/2015/07/06/warren-haynes-confederate-flag-interview/


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 3:20 pm
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Now that there is a vast movement to remove symbols that remind us of slavery, how is the Democratic party free from scrutiny? If flags are coming down, shouldn't they be removed as well?


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 6:08 pm
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Now that there is a vast movement to remove symbols that remind us of slavery, how is the Democratic party free from scrutiny? If flags are coming down, shouldn't they be removed as well?

Good idea.

Shouldn't all the white people be removed as well? How about all the ships alloak? Since slaves were brought over on boats, shouldn't all the boats be destroyed? Since slaves were chained shouldn't we get rid of all the chains too? And whips were made of leather so shouldn't we get rid of all the cows? And slaves worked in fields so shouldn't we get rid of all the land?


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 6:28 pm
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Now that there is a vast movement to remove symbols that remind us of slavery, how is the Democratic party free from scrutiny? If flags are coming down, shouldn't they be removed as well?

Damn, you're right. Maybe I should take a tip from the master and waste 95% of my time here making snide remarks directed at other posters. That's a lot smarter.

Yeah, keep up the good work. 😛


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 6:34 pm
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Now that there is a vast movement to remove symbols that remind us of slavery, how is the Democratic party free from scrutiny? If flags are coming down, shouldn't they be removed as well?

Good idea.

Shouldn't all the white people be removed as well? How about all the ships alloak? Since slaves were brought over on boats, shouldn't all the boats be destroyed? Since slaves were chained shouldn't we get rid of all the chains too? And whips were made of leather so shouldn't we get rid of all the cows? And slaves worked in fields so shouldn't we get rid of all the land?

More attention on objects. An object can't be a proponent of or a defender of slavery.


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 6:38 pm
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Now that there is a vast movement to remove symbols that remind us of slavery, how is the Democratic party free from scrutiny? If flags are coming down, shouldn't they be removed as well?

Good idea.

Shouldn't all the white people be removed as well? How about all the ships alloak? Since slaves were brought over on boats, shouldn't all the boats be destroyed? Since slaves were chained shouldn't we get rid of all the chains too? And whips were made of leather so shouldn't we get rid of all the cows? And slaves worked in fields so shouldn't we get rid of all the land?

More attention on objects. An object can't be a proponent of or a defender of slavery.

It is a symbol.


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 6:39 pm
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Why do some object to the movement to shun the confederate flag? Doesn't the good outweigh the bad? There are still plenty of Southern symbols that represent the South very well, while getting rid of the one that partly includes the support of slavery. Seems like a no brainer. No laws were made...just the will of the people. Isn't that the point?

[Edited on 7/7/2015 by BoytonBrother]


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 6:47 pm
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Now that there is a vast movement to remove symbols that remind us of slavery, how is the Democratic party free from scrutiny? If flags are coming down, shouldn't they be removed as well?

Good idea.

Shouldn't all the white people be removed as well? How about all the ships alloak? Since slaves were brought over on boats, shouldn't all the boats be destroyed? Since slaves were chained shouldn't we get rid of all the chains too? And whips were made of leather so shouldn't we get rid of all the cows? And slaves worked in fields so shouldn't we get rid of all the land?

More attention on objects. An object can't be a proponent of or a defender of slavery.

Alloak do you know when and why South Carolina began flying the flag over their capitol? Are you aware of how modern day Republicans have used the flag to win political battles?

You often speak of uninformed voters. How informed are you on this issue?

Please tell me when they began flying the flag over the State House of South Carolina and why?


 
Posted : July 6, 2015 7:18 pm
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This whole thing has been the best swerve from the public topic of gun control we've seen yet.


 
Posted : July 7, 2015 6:05 am
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Please tell me when they began flying the flag over the State House of South Carolina and why?

It hasn't flown over the state house in years. The Confederate flag was first placed atop the Statehouse dome in 1962 during the centennial observances of the Civil War. It stayed up as a gesture of defiance to the civil rights movement. It was removed from the top of the capital dome in 2000 and since then has flown as part of separate memorial on the state house grounds.

[Edited on 7/7/2015 by gondicar]


 
Posted : July 7, 2015 6:19 am
gotdrumz
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The U.S flag was associated with slavery long before the civil war ever happened, not to mention associated with racism long afterwards. But we sure can't have a little reality interfere with something for Americans to over react about.


 
Posted : July 7, 2015 7:32 am
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blackoak, Since you seem so hung up on the Democrat vs Republican thing, you might be interested to know that the first South Carolina governor to try to get the flag down from the Capitol was Gov. Beasely, a Republican. In 1996. He got hammered for it. Just because someone is a Republican doesn't mean they are brain dead like you.

The U.S flag was associated with slavery long before the civil war ever happened, not to mention associated with racism long afterwards. But we sure can't have a little reality interfere with something for Americans to over react about.

"It's a flag it's a flag
Just a dirty bloodsoaked rag..."


 
Posted : July 7, 2015 7:54 am
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The U.S flag was associated with slavery long before the civil war ever happened, not to mention associated with racism long afterwards. But we sure can't have a little reality interfere with something for Americans to over react about.

Well, the US flag that existed at the time of the civil war is not the same flag that we use today. We have added some stars since then.


 
Posted : July 7, 2015 8:02 am
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