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Muleman1994
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Brian Williams pulls a Hillary. Imagine that.

Even better, the unemployment rate has risen again.
The obama number is now 5.7%; the real unemployment rate is now 11.3%.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 5:25 am
Sang
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It's not the Obama number, it's the same number that has always been reported...... I suppose you also called it the Bush number?


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 6:27 am
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President Bush also brought the country's unemployment rate to the lowest level in history: 4.3%

You might want to check the actual facts as opposed to taking your information for the left-wing news media.

-Muleman1994, 8/24/14

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&fid=127&tid=136174&page=8&orderdate=

If the unemployment rate is "a big lie," then logic dictates that you cannot use it as a positive and a negative within one's own rhetoric because such a number cannot situationally be a lie and the truth...situational usage according to one's own bias in this instance is completely disingenuous.

If it's a lie, it's a lie, regardless of who is President.

Grin


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 6:33 am
jkeller
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Brian Williams pulls a Hillary. Imagine that.

Even better, the unemployment rate has risen again.
The obama number is now 5.7%; the real unemployment rate is now 11.3%.

If you are going to attack people for what you perceive as lies they have told, please keep in mind that you have been caught lying many times. That door swings both ways.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 6:40 am
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Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.

You are a liar.

___________________________________________________

Your ignorance of the truth and the facts is typical of a liberal, aka: the definition of a low-info voter.

How do you explain the fact that in the last couple of years of the obama administration more businesses have closed than have been started?

Who are you calling a liberal? You are not just a liar, you are a fool.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 6:47 am
alloak41
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It's not the Obama number, it's the same number that has always been reported...... I suppose you also called it the Bush number?

The labor force participation rate under Bush was relatively flat if not declining slightly during the Bush years. Under Obama it's dropped off a cliff.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 7:32 am
Muleman1994
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Brian Williams pulls a Hillary. Imagine that.

Even better, the unemployment rate has risen again.
The obama number is now 5.7%; the real unemployment rate is now 11.3%.

If you are going to attack people for what you perceive as lies they have told, please keep in mind that you have been caught lying many times. That door swings both ways.

_____________________________________________________________

"you have been caught lying many times"

Never.
Simply because you don't accept the facts doesn't make stating the facts a lie.

Jan. 20th, 2017 - The End of an Error.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 8:10 am
gondicar
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Brian Williams pulls a Hillary. Imagine that.

Even better, the unemployment rate has risen again.
The obama number is now 5.7%; the real unemployment rate is now 11.3%.

If you are going to attack people for what you perceive as lies they have told, please keep in mind that you have been caught lying many times. That door swings both ways.

_____________________________________________________________

"you have been caught lying many times"

Never.
Simply because you don't accept the facts doesn't make stating the facts a lie.

Jan. 20th, 2017 - The End of an Error.

You lie like a rug.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 8:54 am
Muleman1994
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Brian Williams pulls a Hillary. Imagine that.

Even better, the unemployment rate has risen again.
The obama number is now 5.7%; the real unemployment rate is now 11.3%.

If you are going to attack people for what you perceive as lies they have told, please keep in mind that you have been caught lying many times. That door swings both ways.

_____________________________________________________________

"you have been caught lying many times"

Never.
Simply because you don't accept the facts doesn't make stating the facts a lie.

Jan. 20th, 2017 - The End of an Error.

You lie like a rug.

________________________________________

Another empty shot.

Prove it.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 9:08 am
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Obama is not a Socialist. If you think he is you clearly don't understand Socialism.

This is from today's Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. employers hired at a stellar pace last month, wages rose by the most in six years, and Americans responded by streaming into the job market to find work.

The Labor Department said Friday that the economy gained a seasonally adjusted 257,000 jobs in January, and added far more in previous months than originally estimated. Businesses added 414,000 jobs in November, the government now says, the most in 17 years. Total job gains in December were also revised higher, to 329,000, up from 252,000.

Average hourly wages, meanwhile, jumped 12 cents to $24.75, the biggest gain since September 2008. In the past year, hourly pay has increased 2.2 percent.

The unemployment rate rose to 5.7 percent from 5.6 percent. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. More Americans began looking for jobs, though not all found work. Their job hunting suggests they are more confident about their prospects.

That is ahead of inflation, which rose just 0.7 percent in 2014. The sharp drop in gas prices in the past year has held down inflation and boosted Americans' spending power. Still, wages typically increase at a 3.5 percent pace in a fully healthy economy.

Strong hiring pushes up wages as employers compete for fewer workers. Job gains have now averaged 336,000 a month for the past three months, the best three-month pace in 17 years. Just a year ago, the three-month average was only 197,000.

The Federal Reserve is closely monitoring wages and other job market data as it considers when to begin raising the short-term interest rate it controls from a record low near zero. The Fed has kept rates at record lows for more than six years to help stimulate growth. Most economists think the central bank will start boosting rates as early as June.

Steady economic growth has encouraged companies to keep hiring. The economy expanded at a 4.8 percent annual rate during spring and summer, the fastest six-month pace in a decade, before slowing to a still-decent 2.6 percent pace in the final three months of 2014.

There are now 3.2 million more Americans earning paychecks than there were 12 months ago. That lifts consumer spending, which drives about 70 percent of economic growth.

More hiring, along with sharply lower gasoline prices, has boosted Americans' confidence and spending power. Consumer confidence jumped in January to its highest level in a decade, according to a survey by the University of Michigan. And Americans increased their spending during the final three months of last year at the fastest pace in nearly nine years.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 9:25 am
gondicar
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Brian Williams pulls a Hillary. Imagine that.

Even better, the unemployment rate has risen again.
The obama number is now 5.7%; the real unemployment rate is now 11.3%.

If you are going to attack people for what you perceive as lies they have told, please keep in mind that you have been caught lying many times. That door swings both ways.

_____________________________________________________________

"you have been caught lying many times"

Never.
Simply because you don't accept the facts doesn't make stating the facts a lie.

Jan. 20th, 2017 - The End of an Error.

You lie like a rug.

________________________________________

Another empty shot.

Prove it.

Been there, done that. As have others. You just ignore and keep trolling away. It's comical, actually.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 9:46 am
jkeller
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Brian Williams pulls a Hillary. Imagine that.

Even better, the unemployment rate has risen again.
The obama number is now 5.7%; the real unemployment rate is now 11.3%.

If you are going to attack people for what you perceive as lies they have told, please keep in mind that you have been caught lying many times. That door swings both ways.

_____________________________________________________________

"you have been caught lying many times"

Never.
Simply because you don't accept the facts doesn't make stating the facts a lie.

Jan. 20th, 2017 - The End of an Error.

You lie like a rug.

________________________________________

Another empty shot.

Prove it.

You claimed that you spent 7 years in the Marines. Not possible s you do 4 years active and 4 years in the reserves. Even someone as dumb as you knows that 4 + 4 = 8.

You claimed to be an executive for a company that was fighting Ebola and yet you obviously had no clue about the disease or what was done about it.

You lied quite often about Clinton and Obama's role in Benghazi. Even the Reuplicans admitted there was no scandal.

I am sure many of us could add to this list.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 10:18 am
BillyBlastoff
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And he says he hires people into "above middle class jobs" and that Obama has not done the same, ignoring the fact that Obama hired and maintains a massive staff.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 10:46 am
PhotoRon286
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Of course muleturd will jump on the Daily Kos aspect of this.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/06/1362756/-Job-Growth-Wages-Consumer-Confidence-Soar-No-McConnell-You-Still-Can-t-Take-Credit

[Edited on 2/6/2015 by PhotoRon286]


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 12:47 pm
LeglizHemp
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How many Federal Employees are there today compared to 2008? That's alot of unemployed folks.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 1:04 pm
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Obama is not a Socialist. If you think he is you clearly don't understand Socialism.

This is from today's Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. employers hired at a stellar pace last month, wages rose by the most in six years, and Americans responded by streaming into the job market to find work.

The Labor Department said Friday that the economy gained a seasonally adjusted 257,000 jobs in January, and added far more in previous months than originally estimated. Businesses added 414,000 jobs in November, the government now says, the most in 17 years. Total job gains in December were also revised higher, to 329,000, up from 252,000.

Average hourly wages, meanwhile, jumped 12 cents to $24.75, the biggest gain since September 2008. In the past year, hourly pay has increased 2.2 percent.

The unemployment rate rose to 5.7 percent from 5.6 percent. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. More Americans began looking for jobs, though not all found work. Their job hunting suggests they are more confident about their prospects.

That is ahead of inflation, which rose just 0.7 percent in 2014. The sharp drop in gas prices in the past year has held down inflation and boosted Americans' spending power. Still, wages typically increase at a 3.5 percent pace in a fully healthy economy.

Strong hiring pushes up wages as employers compete for fewer workers. Job gains have now averaged 336,000 a month for the past three months, the best three-month pace in 17 years. Just a year ago, the three-month average was only 197,000.

The Federal Reserve is closely monitoring wages and other job market data as it considers when to begin raising the short-term interest rate it controls from a record low near zero. The Fed has kept rates at record lows for more than six years to help stimulate growth. Most economists think the central bank will start boosting rates as early as June.

Steady economic growth has encouraged companies to keep hiring. The economy expanded at a 4.8 percent annual rate during spring and summer, the fastest six-month pace in a decade, before slowing to a still-decent 2.6 percent pace in the final three months of 2014.

There are now 3.2 million more Americans earning paychecks than there were 12 months ago. That lifts consumer spending, which drives about 70 percent of economic growth.

More hiring, along with sharply lower gasoline prices, has boosted Americans' confidence and spending power. Consumer confidence jumped in January to its highest level in a decade, according to a survey by the University of Michigan. And Americans increased their spending during the final three months of last year at the fastest pace in nearly nine years.

I'm always amused by those who come on this site and throw the term socialist in regard to Obama. Socialism is more than a drive by term, or that Obama is a socialist is more than a catch phrase. I really haven't seen any of those who claim this show any knowledge of economics and provide any explanations of policies that support socialism. If they truly believe this, then I'd like to see several paragraphs supporting that premise.

Next time someone in a conversation throws the term "socialist" or "socialism", ask them to begin by defining it. Try following up with asking them to define "imperialism" or "fascism", etc. You won't be surprised to see how quiet the conversation gets.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 1:46 pm
Muleman1994
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Obama is not a Socialist. If you think he is you clearly don't understand Socialism.

This is from today's Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. employers hired at a stellar pace last month, wages rose by the most in six years, and Americans responded by streaming into the job market to find work.

The Labor Department said Friday that the economy gained a seasonally adjusted 257,000 jobs in January, and added far more in previous months than originally estimated. Businesses added 414,000 jobs in November, the government now says, the most in 17 years. Total job gains in December were also revised higher, to 329,000, up from 252,000.

Average hourly wages, meanwhile, jumped 12 cents to $24.75, the biggest gain since September 2008. In the past year, hourly pay has increased 2.2 percent.

The unemployment rate rose to 5.7 percent from 5.6 percent. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. More Americans began looking for jobs, though not all found work. Their job hunting suggests they are more confident about their prospects.

That is ahead of inflation, which rose just 0.7 percent in 2014. The sharp drop in gas prices in the past year has held down inflation and boosted Americans' spending power. Still, wages typically increase at a 3.5 percent pace in a fully healthy economy.

Strong hiring pushes up wages as employers compete for fewer workers. Job gains have now averaged 336,000 a month for the past three months, the best three-month pace in 17 years. Just a year ago, the three-month average was only 197,000.

The Federal Reserve is closely monitoring wages and other job market data as it considers when to begin raising the short-term interest rate it controls from a record low near zero. The Fed has kept rates at record lows for more than six years to help stimulate growth. Most economists think the central bank will start boosting rates as early as June.

Steady economic growth has encouraged companies to keep hiring. The economy expanded at a 4.8 percent annual rate during spring and summer, the fastest six-month pace in a decade, before slowing to a still-decent 2.6 percent pace in the final three months of 2014.

There are now 3.2 million more Americans earning paychecks than there were 12 months ago. That lifts consumer spending, which drives about 70 percent of economic growth.

More hiring, along with sharply lower gasoline prices, has boosted Americans' confidence and spending power. Consumer confidence jumped in January to its highest level in a decade, according to a survey by the University of Michigan. And Americans increased their spending during the final three months of last year at the fastest pace in nearly nine years.

I'm always amused by those who come on this site and throw the term socialist in regard to Obama. Socialism is more than a drive by term, or that Obama is a socialist is more than a catch phrase. I really haven't seen any of those who claim this show any knowledge of economics and provide any explanations of policies that support socialism. If they truly believe this, then I'd like to see several paragraphs supporting that premise.

Next time someone in a conversation throws the term "socialist" or "socialism", ask them to begin by defining it. Try following up with asking them to define "imperialism" or "fascism", etc. You won't be surprised to see how quiet the conversation gets.

_______________________________________________________________________

If you want to understand obama’s socialist ideology, research his mentor Saul Alinsky or his mentor Lucifer.

Obama’s political vocation began in Bill Ayers living room (disciple of Saul Alinsky) and he has pursued that ideology to this day.

Understanding obama's socialist ideology will cause you to understand his failure to create real jobs and why his agenda has been to keep poor people poor and degrading the middle class.

If you don't agree, please explain why poor people have even less today and the middle class continues to suffer under his presidency.

[Edited on 2/7/2015 by Muleman1994]

[Edited on 2/7/2015 by Muleman1994]


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 4:55 pm
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Off the rails.

That train don't stop here anymore.

Maybe this link will help Muleman...

http://behavioral-health-treatment.org

Get well soon!


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 5:55 pm
alloak41
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I'm always amused by those who come on this site and throw the term socialist in regard to Obama. Socialism is more than a drive by term, or that Obama is a socialist is more than a catch phrase. I really haven't seen any of those who claim this show any knowledge of economics and provide any explanations of policies that support socialism. If they truly believe this, then I'd like to see several paragraphs supporting that premise.

When you make statements like, "Things are better when we spread the wealth around" don't be surprised in the event that Socialism is mentioned.

Then there's the "you didn't build that" when he mocked business owners for thinking they were so "smart" they built a business up from nothing. No matter how smart an individual considers themselves to be and how much evidence backs them up, the government is always smarter. Their success wouldn't be possible without that road or bridge! Why then do many businesses at end of a road or adjacent to a bridge go belly up? He stopped short of explaining that part.

Obama is a central planner and believes that prosperity flows from government and he's got it exactly backwards. Government consumes prosperity.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 7:51 pm
jkeller
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I'm always amused by those who come on this site and throw the term socialist in regard to Obama. Socialism is more than a drive by term, or that Obama is a socialist is more than a catch phrase. I really haven't seen any of those who claim this show any knowledge of economics and provide any explanations of policies that support socialism. If they truly believe this, then I'd like to see several paragraphs supporting that premise.

When you make statements like, "Things are better when we spread the wealth around" don't be surprised in the event that Socialism is mentioned.

Then there's the "you didn't build that" when he mocked business owners for thinking they were so "smart" they built a business up from nothing. No matter how smart an individual considers themselves to be and how much evidence backs them up, the government is always smarter. Their success wouldn't be possible without that road or bridge! Why then do many businesses at end of a road or adjacent to a bridge go belly up? He stopped short of explaining that part.

Obama is a central planner and believes that prosperity flows from government and he's got it exactly backwards. Government consumes prosperity.

Once again, the point flies way over your head. You are out of your depth in this debate.


 
Posted : February 6, 2015 8:57 pm
Muleman1994
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Bill Ayers confirms what Obama has denied

Posted By Aaron Klein On 04/07/2013 @ 7:14 pm In Politics,U.S. |

Weatherman domestic terrorist Bill Ayers is now confirming what the White House has previously denied – that he held a fundraiser in his living room for Barack Obama.

That 1995 meeting was said to have launched Obama’s political career.

In an October 2008 interview on MSNBC host Chris Matthews’ show, Robert Gibbs, a spokesman for Obama’s presidential campaign, categorically denied the fundraiser was ever held.

Matthews asked Gibbs: “Did [Ayers] have a fundraiser for [Obama], or not?”
Gibbs, who would become the White House spokesman, replied: “No, he did not have a fundraiser for our candidate as he said ten seconds ago.”

However, in an interview last week with the Daily Beast, Ayers recalled that fundraiser.
Stated Ayers of his relationship with Obama: “We were friendly, that was true; we served on a couple of boards together, that was true; he held a fundraiser in our living room, that was true; Michelle [Obama] and Bernardine were at the law firm together, that was true. Hyde Park in Chicago is a tiny neighborhood, so when he said I was ‘a guy around the neighborhood,’ that was true.”

Does this explain infamous Ayers living-room meeting?

Is the socialist-oriented New Party the missing link at the center of that now infamous 1995 Obama fundraiser in Ayers living room in Chicago?

It was at that meeting that New Party member Alice Palmer announced she wanted Obama as her successor as state senator since she was stepping down to run for Congress.
WND has found that in the July 1996 edition of the New Party’s newsletter, the New Party news, the controversial party announced “the Illinois New Party capped off a month-long house party drive in Chicago.”

Further review of New Party literature from 1995 and 1996 finds that so-called house parties were regularly utilized by the New Party to introduce candidates to leading party activists as well as to raise money and recruit new members.

It is known that single-payer activist Quentin Young, who advised Obama on healthcare when the politician was a state senator, was present at the parlor meeting at the Ayers’ residence.

WND reported that Young was listed by the New Party as an early party founder and builder.
“I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers’ house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,” Young was quoted as saying. “[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor.”

Chicago-based blogger Maria Warren was also present. She wrote that she remembered watching Obama give a “standard, innocuous little talk” in the Ayers’ home.

“They were launching him,” Warren wrote, “introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread.”

It would make sense that the New Party sponsored the get-together in Ayers’ living room for Palmer’s announcement.Palmer was the New Party’s signed candidate for office. The New Party, which had partnered closely with ACORN, was mobilizing support for Palmer among its constituents and the larger Chicago progressive community.

New Party founder and Marxist activist Carl Davidson recalled screening Palmer and signing her up to the party.

Wrote Davidson:
In the next two elections in the city … the New Party has taken a slightly different approach. It organized a citywide candidates forum and invited a number of progressive candidates. Of those responding, two were of special interest, Alice Palmer and Willie Delgado … Both Palmer and Delgado attended the [New Party] forum and were thoroughly questioned by 70 or so New Party members. At the close, both publicly signed a “contract” with the New Party … Two weeks later, the New Party formally endorsed them and is now mobilizing support.
How was the New Party mobilizing the stated support for Palmer at the time, an effort that Palmer wanted transferred to Obama?

WND reported the New Party had such a close relationship with ACORN that at one point the two shared an office address, fax lines and email addresses.

ACORN led the New Party’s mobilization and voter drive efforts. In progressive circles at the time, the New Party was considered the de facto political wing of ACORN, a group with which Obama long maintained a close relationship.

Ayers and Dohrn, meanwhile, traveled in the same political circles as New Party leaders, making it even more likely the duo could have hosted a New Party house meeting. The duo were key supporters of Palmer.

In 1994 Dohrn and Bill Ayers were listed on a “Membership, Subscription and Mailing List” for the Chicago Committees of Correspondence, which was co-chaired by New Party founder Davidson.

WND found that Chicago activists Joe Iosbaker and Stephanie Weiner were also listed as New Party leaders.

Iosbaker is a University of Illinois-Chicago office worker and a union steward for his SEIU local. His home was raided by the FBI in September 2010 reportedly as part of a terror probe investigating material support for jihadist groups.

Together with other activists raided in the same probe, Iosbaker and Weiner are founders of the so-called Committee to Stop FBI Repression, which protested the FBI raids.

Another founder of the committee whose home was part of the same raid is Hatem Abudayyeh, the executive director of the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN.
WND was first to report that Obama, while serving as a paid director of the far-left nonprofit Chicago Woods Fund, provided two grants to the AAAN. Obama served at the Woods Fund alongside Ayers.

AAAN was founded by a longtime Obama associate, Columbia University Professor Rashid Khalidi. Khalidi’s wife, Mona, is president of the Arab American Action Network.

The New Party, meanwhile, is coming under increased scrutiny after new information emerged further indicating Obama was a member of the party in the 1990s.

The New Party was a 1990s party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda.

In 2008, Obama’s campaign denied the president was ever a member amid reports, including from WND, citing the New Party’s own literature listing Obama as a member.

Information uncovered in recent weeks, including Obama’s signed contract with the New Party, further establishes the president’s membership with the controversial organization.
Socialist goals

The New Party, established in 1992, took advantage of what was known as electoral “fusion,” which enabled candidates to run on two tickets simultaneously, attracting voters from both parties. But the New Party disbanded in 1998, one year after fusion was halted by the Supreme Court.

The socialist-oriented goals of the New Party were enumerated on its old website.
Among the New Party’s stated objectives were “full employment, a shorter work week and a guaranteed minimum income for all adults; a universal ‘social wage’ to include such basic benefits as health care, child care, vacation time and lifelong access to education and training; a systematic phase-in of comparable worth; and like programs to ensure gender equity.”
The New Party stated it also sought “the democratization of our banking and financial system – including popular election of those charged with public stewardship of our banking system, worker-owner control over their pension assets [and] community-controlled alternative financial institutions.”

Many of the New Party’s founding members were Democratic Socialists of America leaders and members of Committees of Correspondence, a breakaway of the Communist Party USA.
Last month, WND reported on a 1996 print advertisement in a local Chicago newspaper that shows Obama was the speaker at an event sponsored and presented by the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA.

WND first reported on the event in 2010.
Obama listed as New Party member
In 2009, WND reported on newspaper evidence from the New Party’s own literature listing several new members of the New Party, including Obama.
Earlier this month, Kurtz, writing at National Review Online, reported Obama signed a “contract” promising to publicly support and associate himself with the New Party while in office.

In 2008, Obama’s Fight the Smears campaign website quoted Carol Harwell, who managed Obama’s 1996 campaign for the Illinois Senate, as stating: “Barack did not solicit or seek the New Party endorsement for state senator in 1995.”
Fight the Smears conceded the New Party did support Obama in 1996 but denied that Obama had ever joined.


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 6:03 am
PhotoRon286
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Using WND as a "credible" source???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 6:26 am
Muleman1994
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Using WND as a "credible" source???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

__________________________________________________________

When you can't refute the facts, bash the source.
Typical weak liberal response.


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 7:37 am
jkeller
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Using WND as a "credible" source???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

__________________________________________________________

When you can't refute the facts, bash the source.
Typical weak liberal response.

Hey, you asked for proof that you are a liar. We gave it to you. You are ignoring it. Typical Muletool response.


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 7:40 am
Muleman1994
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Using WND as a "credible" source???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

__________________________________________________________

When you can't refute the facts, bash the source.
Typical weak liberal response.

Hey, you asked for proof that you are a liar. We gave it to you. You are ignoring it. Typical Muletool response.

____________________________________________________

There are numerous sources reporting the obama/alinsky affiliation.
obama's socialist policies are proof enough.


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 7:47 am
jkeller
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Using WND as a "credible" source???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

__________________________________________________________

When you can't refute the facts, bash the source.
Typical weak liberal response.

Hey, you asked for proof that you are a liar. We gave it to you. You are ignoring it. Typical Muletool response.

____________________________________________________

There are numerous sources reporting the obama/alinsky affiliation.
obama's socialist policies are proof enough.

Keep ignoring. It does not change the fact that you are a liar and have zero credibility.

Now, define Socialism.


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 7:52 am
Muleman1994
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Using WND as a "credible" source???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

__________________________________________________________

When you can't refute the facts, bash the source.
Typical weak liberal response.

Hey, you asked for proof that you are a liar. We gave it to you. You are ignoring it. Typical Muletool response.

____________________________________________________

There are numerous sources reporting the obama/alinsky affiliation.
obama's socialist policies are proof enough.

Keep ignoring. It does not change the fact that you are a liar and have zero credibility.

Now, define Socialism.

__________________________________________________

Define socialism?
Careful son, your public school education (or lack of an education) is showing again.

If you can't define the modern idiom of socialism explaining it to you would be a useless effort.
Of course that does explain why you can't see obama's socialist ideology.


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 9:21 am
alanwoods
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Keep ignoring. It does not change the fact that you are a liar and have zero credibility.

Now, define Socialism.

Why don't you look it up for yourself, Mr. Know-it-all?


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 9:39 am
MartinD28
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I'm always amused by those who come on this site and throw the term socialist in regard to Obama. Socialism is more than a drive by term, or that Obama is a socialist is more than a catch phrase. I really haven't seen any of those who claim this show any knowledge of economics and provide any explanations of policies that support socialism. If they truly believe this, then I'd like to see several paragraphs supporting that premise.

When you make statements like, "Things are better when we spread the wealth around" don't be surprised in the event that Socialism is mentioned.

Then there's the "you didn't build that" when he mocked business owners for thinking they were so "smart" they built a business up from nothing. No matter how smart an individual considers themselves to be and how much evidence backs them up, the government is always smarter. Their success wouldn't be possible without that road or bridge! Why then do many businesses at end of a road or adjacent to a bridge go belly up? He stopped short of explaining that part.

Obama is a central planner and believes that prosperity flows from government and he's got it exactly backwards. Government consumes prosperity.

Once again, the point flies way over your head. You are out of your depth in this debate.

X2...right on, keller.

Neither alloak's minimal & faint attempt at answering the original question cuts water. I will give him the credit in that he seems to have made a light attempt. On the other hand, the troll's use of cut & pastes as well as redundant, repeated, and regurgitated posts is nothing more than a complete failure to show any understanding of the topic or to be able to articulate an explanation.


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 9:41 am
jkeller
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Keep ignoring. It does not change the fact that you are a liar and have zero credibility.

Now, define Socialism.

Why don't you look it up for yourself, Mr. Know-it-all?

I know what socialism means. The fact is that they accuse Obama of being a socialist, but he isn't. So, I asked them to define it and they can't. Got anything to add?


 
Posted : February 7, 2015 10:02 am
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