Maybe it's time to bust out my copy of "Can't Stop The Music"!
I agree with BIGV. Who the hell cares what Bruce Jenner has to say or feel. Just go about your business Mr. Jenner and do your thing...
Several here have suggested it is about ratings. If it is about ratings, then enough people have to care enough to watch in order to make it a ratings bonanza. And according to USA Today, enough people did care enough to watch...it was the most-watched Friday program (excluding sports) since 2003, pulling in 16.9 million viewers. In terms of social media, it was also the most social Friday telecast of all time, excluding sports. On Twitter, Jenner was the top worldwide trend during the Friday broadcast.
So to answer your question, who the hell cares what Bruce Jenner has to say or feel, the answer is millions and millions of people.
Sounds like there are millions of people with too much time on their hands... 😛
I don't think that 17 million number is all that surprising. No one really mentions the fact he was one of the biggest athletes in America in 1976-77...back when people actually cared about the Olympics and actually thought breakfast cereal was healthy...:P
it's not surprising because it shows the priority level of the American people; what interests them and what they think is newsworthy. That number says more about America than it does about Jenner.
I don't think that 17 million number is all that surprising. No one really mentions the fact he was one of the biggest athletes in America in 1976-77...back when people actually cared about the Olympics and actually thought breakfast cereal was healthy...:P
it's not surprising because it shows the priority level of the American people; what interests them and what they think is newsworthy. That number says more about America than it does about Jenner.
Exactly. The dumbing down continues...
I don't think that 17 million number is all that surprising. No one really mentions the fact he was one of the biggest athletes in America in 1976-77...back when people actually cared about the Olympics and actually thought breakfast cereal was healthy...:P
Exactly. The question was "who the hell cares what Bruce Jenner has to say or feel" and that's what I was trying to answer, not the "why". People can call it rubbernecking or dumbing down or whatever and speculate about the "why" all day long, but at the end of the day 17 million Americans tuned in watch and millions more from around the world followed it online. That alone means it was newsworthy, no matter the reason.
I don't think that 17 million number is all that surprising. No one really mentions the fact he was one of the biggest athletes in America in 1976-77...back when people actually cared about the Olympics and actually thought breakfast cereal was healthy...:P
Exactly. The question was "who the hell cares what Bruce Jenner has to say or feel" and that's what I was trying to answer, not the "why". People can call it rubbernecking or dumbing down or whatever and speculate about the "why" all day long, but at the end of the day 17 million Americans tuned in watch and millions more from around the world followed it online. That alone means it was newsworthy, no matter the reason.
"Newsworthy"...Therein lies the point of contention.
I don't think that 17 million number is all that surprising. No one really mentions the fact he was one of the biggest athletes in America in 1976-77...back when people actually cared about the Olympics and actually thought breakfast cereal was healthy...:P
Exactly. The question was "who the hell cares what Bruce Jenner has to say or feel" and that's what I was trying to answer, not the "why". People can call it rubbernecking or dumbing down or whatever and speculate about the "why" all day long, but at the end of the day 17 million Americans tuned in watch and millions more from around the world followed it online. That alone means it was newsworthy, no matter the reason.
"Newsworthy"...Therein lies the point of contention.
17 million is a big number for TV, especially since TV viewing has gotten so segmented. Around 10 million people watch 60 Minutes every Sunday.
But, there are around 240 million adults in the U.S., 17 million is only 7% of that. 93% didn't give a chit. 😛
I don't think that 17 million number is all that surprising. No one really mentions the fact he was one of the biggest athletes in America in 1976-77...back when people actually cared about the Olympics and actually thought breakfast cereal was healthy...:P
Exactly. The question was "who the hell cares what Bruce Jenner has to say or feel" and that's what I was trying to answer, not the "why". People can call it rubbernecking or dumbing down or whatever and speculate about the "why" all day long, but at the end of the day 17 million Americans tuned in watch and millions more from around the world followed it online. That alone means it was newsworthy, no matter the reason.
"Newsworthy"...Therein lies the point of contention.
It is out there for you to watch or ignore. It seems you are choosing not to ignore.
"Newsworthy"...Therein lies the point of contention.
"You had to cover a lot of ground to find anything newsworthy"
Exactly. A LOT of ground. Wars, riots, world hunger, alleged Police brutality and earthquakes didn't garner 16 million viewers..... But a sex changing, ex-athlete who gained fame 35 years earlier sure did.
I repeat, a sad, pathetic picture indeed.
World hunger would be a boring TV show. Just sayin'. 😛
It is out there for you to watch or ignore. It seems you are choosing not to ignore.
I also chose not to watch it.
"Newsworthy"...Therein lies the point of contention.
"You had to cover a lot of ground to find anything newsworthy"
Exactly. A LOT of ground. Wars, riots, world hunger, alleged Police brutality and earthquakes didn't garner 16 million viewers..... But a sex changing, ex-athlete who gained fame 35 years earlier sure did.
I repeat, a sad, pathetic picture indeed.
That is not a good comparison. Every news outlet on TV or the internet or print has covered the Nepal earthquake. I would venture that far more than 17 million people have seen that coverage. The Jenner thing was a single interview on a single network. It was the only place to see it. Nepal coverage is everywhere. Another thing to consider is that 20/20 has regular viewers. I don't know what their ratings are, but I would guess that a large portion of that 17 million would have watched the show without the Jenner interview.
"Newsworthy"...Therein lies the point of contention.
"You had to cover a lot of ground to find anything newsworthy"
Exactly. A LOT of ground. Wars, riots, world hunger, alleged Police brutality and earthquakes didn't garner 16 million viewers..... But a sex changing, ex-athlete who gained fame 35 years earlier sure did.
I repeat, a sad, pathetic picture indeed.
That is not a good comparison. Every news outlet on TV or the internet or print has covered the Nepal earthquake. I would venture that far more than 17 million people have seen that coverage. The Jenner thing was a single interview on a single network. It was the only place to see it. Nepal coverage is everywhere. Another thing to consider is that 20/20 has regular viewers. I don't know what their ratings are, but I would guess that a large portion of that 17 million would have watched the show without the Jenner interview.
Agreed. And looks like 20/20 audience is typically in the 5.5 to 6 million range so they got about 3x their usual number.
Ohio hot dog restaurant apologizes for its 'insensitive' Bruce Jenner taco-wiener
BY Melissa Chan /
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS /
Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 12:44 PM
Senate Restaurant in Cincinnati, Ohio, has apologized for creating a half-taco, half-sausage "Bruce Jenner 2.0" dish.
A Cincinnati wiener restaurant in hot water for its Bruce Jenner-inspired half-sausage, half-taco dish has apologized after being boiled by critics.
"We aren't bigots or transphobes, we never have been and never will be," Senate Restaurant wrote on Facebook. "We would never want to hurt anyone for the sake of selling a hotdog."
The Ohio eatery, known for selling gourmet hot dogs named after celebrities, cooked up the controversial "Bruce Jenner 2.0" menu item Friday - the same day the Olympic decathlon champion told the world he's a woman.
"It's part hot dog, part taco and pure awesomeness," the restaurant said in its "Dog of the Day" promotion, which has since been pulled off Facebook and its plates.
Bruce Jenner told the world he's a woman and said he's been transitioning for a long time during an exclusive sit-down interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer.
The new frankfurter infuriated local transgender advocates, including Lindsey Deaton who called the creation "transphobic and bigoted."
Senate Restaurant issued an apology Monday, admitting that it was a "poor choice."
"It was highly insensitive and for that we are sorry," it said in a statement. "We meant absolutely no malice. We are good people who made a bad decision."
All proceeds from the dish were donated to The Heartland Trans Wellness Fund, the restaurant said.
"We think Bruce is incredibly courageous and his decision to transition will hopefully give others the strength to do the same."
Transphobic and bigoted? Seems like they are stretching it reading something into it that is not there. The taco part in no way represents women, if it was a hot tamale maybe they could claim something, but a taco? Nah.
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Transphobic and bigoted? Seems like they are stretching it reading something into it that is not there. The taco part in no way represents women, if it was a hot tamale maybe they could claim something, but a taco? Nah.
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On my.
Even I know not to touch that one...
If couple of Texas lawmakers have their way, it might soon be illegal for Gonzales to use the men’s room, because he wasn’t assigned male at birth.
Such bills – referred to as “papers-to-pee” bills by their opponents – have sprouted up in Texas, Kentucky and Florida in response to local ordinances that extend protections to transgender people by allowing them to use the gendered bathroom to which they identify. Politicians behind these proposed legislations insist that this is a matter of public safety – to prevent men from entering women’s bathrooms. LGBT activists say these bills are a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist and are anti-transgender.
For Gonzales, freshman year was tough. It was the first time that he came to terms with his identity as a transgender male. “I was born biologically female, but I now identify as a male. Freshman year, I hadn’t transitioned socially at all,” he says. In middle school, Gonzales identified as “a girl who was attracted to other girls”. “The whole idea of switching gender identities was foreign to the majority of the people at that school,” he said. Including himself.
REMARKS: So he was born a female, was attracted to females that made Gonzalez a lesbian. Gonzalez has transgender surgery to become male and now still has sex with females whom he was attracted to in the first place. Is transgender just about homosexuals getting the body of the opposite sex to make it more acceptable to society for them to be in a homophobic relationship?
[Edited on 4/30/2015 by gina]
Sorry guys but a debate amongst you about newsworthy and including CNN, Fox and others as news is where you all go off the rails.
Jenner did not pull in those numbers because he was an athlete. They pulled in those numbers from constantly promoting something that is on the front of all those trash tabloids. They are not newspapers and do not promote news. The push was on for ratings and he was used to sensationalize the story. Don't feel too bad for him though because he used them to promote his own thing.
All these Kardashian shows are stupid and why Bruce is in the media so much. Why Americans care about these people is beyond me? Bruce should have walked away from all the TV stuff if it was his choice to change. But he dove right in to TV Land with it. He needs the attention just like the rest of them.
I don't care at all what sex he wants to be. Personally I think seeking attention for this right now is a sign of other mental issues. Sadly I don't think this will all end OK but hope that I am wrong. Nothing to do with his sex change, I think his issues involve a bigger picture.
It isn't news though. Just because people want to see it does not make it "newsworthy". If that is the case then NCIS is news. Nor did ratings come from being an athlete. No one shows clips of his athletic exploits They show him driving up to a clinic. They used the sex angle to advertise and heavily promote the show and bring into question his mental status. Nothing compassionate about network TV. They want the dirt and pray for him to fall apart to boost dollars. Execs would cheer if he attempted suicide and start planning the second special.
One look at the checkout at the grocery store at the tabloids and there is where you get 17 million people tuning in.
People also tune in to watch high wire acts that could easily result in death. It isn't news.
It's newsworthy because he is a celebrity and it is a momentous change in his life. When celebrities do things that are highly significant it is news worthy. Tabloid items are about who is sleeping with who. This is not that. This is someone who is prolific in his accomplishments, who wants people to understand the next phase of his life and how he is going to live it. It's brave and courageous and I am glad he came out to talk about it, rather than we have to hear conjecture from reporters.
It's newsworthy because he is a celebrity and it is a momentous change in his life. When celebrities do things that are highly significant it is news worthy. Tabloid items are about who is sleeping with who. This is not that. This is someone who is prolific in his accomplishments, who wants people to understand the next phase of his life and how he is going to live it. It's brave and courageous and I am glad he came out to talk about it, rather than we have to hear conjecture from reporters.
The only reason Bruce Jenner is still relevant these days is because he married a Kardashian. His olympic conquests were nearly 40 years ago. BFD.
It's newsworthy because he is a celebrity and it is a momentous change in his life. When celebrities do things that are highly significant it is news worthy. Tabloid items are about who is sleeping with who. This is not that. This is someone who is prolific in his accomplishments, who wants people to understand the next phase of his life and how he is going to live it. It's brave and courageous and I am glad he came out to talk about it, rather than we have to hear conjecture from reporters.
Nothing is "newsworthy" about it at all. Countless people have already done it. So Jenner wants to cut his junk off and you believe that is news? What is significant about anyone cutting off anything?
Celebrity? Ummm OK. Being the flunkie on a reality show? If he didn't marry the rich chick then we are not even discussing him.
As for the tabloid aspect, he is on the cover of at least a half dozen right now. That is actual all this is - tabloid/reality show bull sh*t.
Did your local news start out tonight with a Jenner update? No. It isn't news. It is a guy who is clearly mentally ill, sick people who would profit from his illness and a portion of society that wants to witness his decline.
The whole thing has some sort of twisted Michael Jackson feel to it.
It's newsworthy because he is a celebrity and it is a momentous change in his life. When celebrities do things that are highly significant it is news worthy. Tabloid items are about who is sleeping with who. This is not that. This is someone who is prolific in his accomplishments, who wants people to understand the next phase of his life and how he is going to live it. It's brave and courageous and I am glad he came out to talk about it, rather than we have to hear conjecture from reporters.
The only reason Bruce Jenner is still relevant these days is because he married a Kardashian. His olympic conquests were nearly 40 years ago. BFD.
He was an American iconic figure who young boys looked up to and could want to be when they grew up. He was on a Wheaties cereal box because of his image and brand (all American success story). They made the slogan "Breakfast of Champions" as part of his brand. He is not famous because of the Kardashians, even on that show he was so marginalized he could have just went out to play golf while they were filiming and not have been missed. There was no room or place for him on that show because of the presence and stature of Kim.
The cereal boxes are selling for $255 since the interview.
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What I will never understand is the term "Live like a woman" or "Live like a man"
I just live and do what I do....I don't think of it as living like a man....I was just born that way I don't have any idea what living like a man means....There are plenty of women that do the same things I do....play music....eat....sleep...got to work......exercise....etc.....so what exactly is living like a woman or a man
aren't we all just living like humans????
What I will never understand is the term "Live like a woman" or "Live like a man"
I just live and do what I do....I don't think of it as living like a man....I was just born that way I don't have any idea what living like a man means....There are plenty of women that do the same things I do....play music....eat....sleep...got to work......exercise....etc.....so what exactly is living like a woman or a man
aren't we all just living like humans????
How many times a week/month do you do the following:
Wear a dress, or a skirt
Wear a bra, or shop for bras
Wear jewelry
Wear makeup
Wear high heels
Paint your fingernails and/or toenails
Use a women's bathroom
Sit down to pee
Take a birth control pill
Menstruate
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It's newsworthy because he is a celebrity and it is a momentous change in his life. When celebrities do things that are highly significant it is news worthy. Tabloid items are about who is sleeping with who. This is not that. This is someone who is prolific in his accomplishments, who wants people to understand the next phase of his life and how he is going to live it. It's brave and courageous and I am glad he came out to talk about it, rather than we have to hear conjecture from reporters.
The only reason Bruce Jenner is still relevant these days is because he married a Kardashian. His olympic conquests were nearly 40 years ago. BFD.
He was an American iconic figure who young boys looked up to and could want to be when they grew up.
"was"
What I will never understand is the term "Live like a woman" or "Live like a man"
I just live and do what I do....I don't think of it as living like a man....I was just born that way I don't have any idea what living like a man means....There are plenty of women that do the same things I do....play music....eat....sleep...got to work......exercise....etc.....so what exactly is living like a woman or a man
aren't we all just living like humans????
How many times a week/month do you do the following:
Wear a dress, or a skirt
Wear a bra, or shop for bras
Wear jewelry
Wear makeup
Wear high heels
Paint your fingernails and/or toenails
Use a women's bathroom
Sit down to pee
Take a birth control pill
Menstruate
I don't think Goldtop is transgender so likely none of them. But aside from the last one, he could if he wanted to. 😉
It's newsworthy because he is a celebrity and it is a momentous change in his life. When celebrities do things that are highly significant it is news worthy. Tabloid items are about who is sleeping with who. This is not that. This is someone who is prolific in his accomplishments, who wants people to understand the next phase of his life and how he is going to live it. It's brave and courageous and I am glad he came out to talk about it, rather than we have to hear conjecture from reporters.
The only reason Bruce Jenner is still relevant these days is because he married a Kardashian. His olympic conquests were nearly 40 years ago. BFD.
He was an American iconic figure who young boys looked up to and could want to be when they grew up.
"was"
Exactly. Now he is a reality show sex change artist. Doubt there is a lineup of boys who want to be just like him now. Nor parents who hope their kids grow up to be just like Bruce. From the covers of Time/Sports Illustrated to the covers of tabloids, you know that can't be good.
Jimmy Kimmel makes fun of Bruce Jenner's Diane Sawyer interview
Published May 13, 2015
Jimmy Kimmel made light of Bruce Jenner's high-profile interview with Diane Sawyer where he revealed that he is transgender.
During his monologue for Tuesday's ABC Upfronts, the late-night host took aim at the network's upcoming programming rundown, saying it "has people of color, women and men turning into women."
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Calling out this year's new format for "The Bachelorette," which will feature two single women vying for love instead of one, Kimmel quipped, "I say forget more Bachelorettes, we need more Bruce Jenners at this network!"
The joke was in reference to the impressive ratings Jenner's interview received this past month. "That Bruce Jenner interview was unbelievable. Huge for us. An enormous hit," he said. "Seventeen million people tuned in to watch his chat with Diane Sawyer."
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Kimmel got a few laughs when he added, "That's why we're making this solemn promise to you: Starting this fall, someone will change genders every week."
This wouldn't be the first time a celebrity has poked fun at Jenner. Jamie Foxx came under fire when he made some jokes about the "Keeping Up with the Kardashians" patriarch while hosting the iHeartRadio Music Awards in March.
"Bruce Jenner will be here doing some musical performances. He's doing a his and her duet by himself," he said during the televised event on NBC.
Jenner's step-daughter Khloe Kardashian reacted to Foxx's jokes, telling "The Insider," "I just think it's a low blow. I think it’s very mean. ...I know Jamie, so I think that's also why that’s a really low blow."
Wonder what she'll think of Kimmel's jokes about her step-dad
This is an example of why it is important for him to disclose his change. He can help others who are having problems feel like they have a voice. I find it almost disbelievable that 15 students at this one school killed themselves over a 12 year time frame because of being bullied over their sexual orientation.
