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gina
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That's right, they have plans and you ain't gonna like them.

"Black Lives Matter leader Deray McKesson had two of his email accounts hacked recently … [They] showed that they are planning to create massive unrest during this election period in something they call the “Summer of Chaos”.

The leaked documents show that Soros-embraced Black Lives Matter wants to create so much chaos that martial law will be instituted and the elections cancelled. Chaos is the goal in order to destabilize the populace. "

The hackers released some private messages between Deray McKesson and BLM activist, Samuel Simyangwe, where they discuss how they have 10,000 people ready to be bussed into Cleveland for the Republican National Convention to cause so many problems that they will shut it down.

https://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/07/08/jubilee-jolt-pre-planned-leaked-summer-chaos-begins-dallas.html

https://www.intellihub.com/operation-summer-of-chaos-obama-admin-black-lives-matter-plan/

REMARKS: It is extraordinary how a movement of people who are represented by poor, minority, disenfranchised people have the same goal as the power elite. To shut down what is in place now so that some other form of governance can be put in place. Is the BLM movement a covert militia for the govt. ? They know if they totally shut down cities, martial law will be implemented, but that does not scare them. Why not?

What is clear is that Dallas is just the beginning, I saw reports on Bill O'Reilly's show and also Chris Matthews show that indicated that "sophisticated bomb making materials" were found at the Dallas shooters home. This was not just some pissed off person who went and bought a rifle and went out shooting in a crowd. He was also a veteran, served in Afghanistan but nobody thought he had a stress disorder from that.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 6:23 am
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Yep the demon is free alright -- latest attack, a black person shot & killed by police -- was on radio this AM, didn't hear where -- he had a gun, wouldnt put it down when told to so they opened fire etc etc

The best story in last day or so -- posted on Yahoo of a pride of lions in Zimbabwe Africa -- stalking & killing a group of human poachers --

They Were Absolutely In The Right, Obviously -- they're the lowest of the low, poaching bastards -- the pride knew what they were up to -- their lives or ours

No Different w/People -- the Black Panthers of the 1960s fought back, that is what is happening now & it looks to me like the Watts/Detroit type riots of the 1960s>Rodney King riots & on, is next, w/the plans for shutting down the RNC etc etc

violence -- hatred -- bigotry -- all because of the color of one's skin -- it shows how underdeveloped the human brain is


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 7:18 am
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The Black Lives Matter movement is just making things worse. Maybe that's exactly what
they want.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 7:30 am
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The Black Lives Matter movement is just making things worse. Maybe that's exactly what they want.

What would you have them do, accept the status quo? The BLM movement hasn't killed anyone. Would America have been better off if SCLC, SNCC, or CORE never existed? Did they make things worse? Or did they effectively draw attention to injustices that were accepted in our society?


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 7:54 am
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What would you have them do, accept the status quo? The BLM movement hasn't killed anyone. Would America have been better off if SCLC, SNCC, or CORE never existed? Did they make things worse? Or did they effectively draw attention to injustices that were accepted in our society?

That's how I see it as well


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 8:06 am
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The Black Lives Matter movement is just making things worse. Maybe that's exactly what
they want.

Translation - they should know their place.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 9:37 am
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When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution is unevitable.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 1:00 pm
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Noun, verb, race card.

Noun, verb, Obama insult, Or you could always post another demeaning cartoon.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 1:01 pm
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In most western societies police are there to de-escalate the situation, in america you have to de-escalate the police.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 1:23 pm
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In most western societies police are there to de-escalate the situation, in america you have to de-escalate the police.

Oh, really?


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 1:37 pm
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Oh, really?

Remember Ferguson, Mo.? Cops showed up like they were in Fallujah,Iraq.Too much overkill by most PD's


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 1:47 pm
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Oh, really?

Remember Ferguson, Mo.? Cops showed up like they were in Fallujah,Iraq.Too much overkill by most PD's

Yeah, because the criminals they bust are unarmed, right? In too many cases these days the police are outgunned. Too many people who are armed walking the street. I guess police officers should just learn to deal with dying on the job so they don't look like a military force.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 2:07 pm
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Mike Brown wasn't armed- the officer who shot him claimed that his size made him feel like a child? Walter Scott was not armed when the officer shot him in the back. I could go on- What this is about is how racism is enshrined within this society and it's been so since day one. White men are not being shot down in the street for selling CD's or loose cigarettes or child support or for having toy guns or samurai swords or for broken tail lights etc.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 2:20 pm
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Mike Brown wasn't armed- the officer who shot him claimed that his size made him feel like a child? Walter Scott was not armed when the officer shot him in the back. I could go on- What this is about is how racism is enshrined within this society and it's been so since day one. White men are not being shot down in the street for selling CD's or loose cigarettes or child support or for having toy guns or samurai swords or for broken tail lights etc.

Two cases in the thousands of confrontations that the police face everyday. Are all police officers perfect? No. Are there some that shouldn't be police officers? No doubt. But on a day to day basis, the police show more restraint than you or I would.

BTW, at the Dallas protest, the decision was made not to wear body armor or have personnel carriers in order to show that the police wanted a peaceful demonstration and would do nothing to antagonize the protesters. That resulted in 5 officers getting killed. Had they should up in body armor, based on what you have said, you would have found fault with them for showing up like they were in Fallujah.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 2:28 pm
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Whats been happening lately has been happening for decades, the only thing different is video.


 
Posted : July 9, 2016 4:50 pm
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Mike Brown wasn't armed- the officer who shot him claimed that his size made him feel like a child? n c.

Unarmed, but he didn't want to stay that way. Try to grab a cops gun or any other piece of equipment
and things might not work out too well for you, no matter what color you are.


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 4:17 am
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The Black Lives Matter movement is just making things worse. Maybe that's exactly what they want.

What would you have them do, accept the status quo?

If they really wanted right the situation, maybe it would be more beneficial to convey a message
that it's always a good practice to comply with the police. It may seem unfair at the time and you
may have to swallow a little pride, but chances are you don't get injured. On the other hand,
threatening to kill cops, destroying property, shutting down roadways, ect not the best approach IMO.
I would imagine MLK would agree with me.


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 4:28 am
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We've been hearing that people need guns to fight back against tyranny.


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 5:51 am
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It really is amazing that those who carry on the most about too much government in their lives have no issue with the military arm of the state doing whatever it wishes.


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 5:52 am
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Exactly. When gun control is proposed, the right says - don't you dare take away my right to bear arms to fight back against a tyrannical gov't. But when dark colored folks use that same philosophy, "how irresponsible and foolish". People need to remember that the term "racist" and "racism" has varying degrees, so when it's brought up, nobody is accusing anyone of hating someone b/c of the color of their skin, but rather pointing out that some may be much higher on the scale than others. This disgusting position I described in my first 2 sentences describe people too high on the scale - not as high as the KKK, but too high.


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 6:01 am
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Not meaning to be a dick here, just pondering: is there an organization or system that reports the activity in gun sales? I'd be willing to bet that there'll be a run on gun stores this week. I AM JUST SAYIN'! ):


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 6:32 am
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Not meaning to be a dick here, just pondering: is there an organization or system that reports the activity in gun sales? I'd be willing to bet that there'll be a run on gun stores this week. I AM JUST SAYIN'! ):

Going by the Googles, those stats are cross-correlated and reported on an annual basis, with the benchmark being the number of FBI background checks performed, with each check equalling one purchase. Those are done electronically, so the FBI probably has a good measure pretty quickly, but they are only required to publicly report those numbers annually. Amount of firearms manufactured also figures in.

The FBI, DOJ and ATF combine different reports to draw conclusions, but all agencies freely declare that they have no idea how many transactions occur outside the background check process, which they estimate to be around a third of total transactions.

There's usually a run after any type of mass shooting or perceived imminent action on gun control or possible confiscation.

Here's the NRA's own chart...

Here's an article from Time on gun sale spikes: http://time.com/4138559/gun-sales-san-bernardino-mass-shooting/


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 9:03 am
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The Black Lives Matter movement is just making things worse. Maybe that's exactly what
they want.

It started with that march thru Manhattan to the Brooklyn Bridge where 10,000 black lives matter members, supporters marched while some chanted "what do we want? And the rank and file answered "dead cops", "when do we want them?" "Now".

When any group launches an attack on police officers, what can they do? They stood there humiliated and powerless because they had their orders. Then when the group got to the Brooklyn Bridge and staged a "die in" where they lied down and pretended to be dead some of them were removed, some were arrested, some scuffles occurred. This is different than MLK's marches. he wanted people to be judged on the basis of their character not their color. BLM is promoting that they want to be recognized, rewarded and given the treatment they dictate because of their color. It is like militant racism. They do not want equal rights, it's like the quota system known as affirmative action, hire people on the basis of their race or ethnicity because you have to hire a certain percentage of people in different groups. That should not have happened. The most qualified person no matter what their color should be hired. When you institute quotas, quality does not exist.

BLM went to the Mall fo America with the intent to disrupt the shoppers and if they could have, they would have shut the mall down. If they had protest marches with dignity people might want to listen to them. As it is now, they are seen as out of control people with a mob mentality (the here we come, you will listen to us and do as we say because there are more of us than you). Nobody wants that.

These are from protests in NYC. The signs are professionally made, makes you wonder who is actually behind the movement and what their goals are.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/UI/Front/MultimediaInner.aspx?NewsContentID=232847&newsportalname=Multimedia


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 11:17 am
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The Black Lives Matter movement is just making things worse. Maybe that's exactly what they want.

What would you have them do, accept the status quo? The BLM movement hasn't killed anyone. Would America have been better off if SCLC, SNCC, or CORE never existed? Did they make things worse? Or did they effectively draw attention to injustices that were accepted in our society?

Work from within the systems that need changing. It takes longer, but that is how change has to happen, unless you want cities, governments taken down, martial law, and then hope for a good change after that.


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 11:18 am
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The Black Lives Matter movement is just making things worse. Maybe that's exactly what they want.

What would you have them do, accept the status quo? The BLM movement hasn't killed anyone. Would America have been better off if SCLC, SNCC, or CORE never existed? Did they make things worse? Or did they effectively draw attention to injustices that were accepted in our society?

Work from within the systems that need changing. It takes longer, but that is how change has to happen, unless you want cities, governments taken down, martial law, and then hope for a good change after that.

That sounds nice but it doesn't always work that way. Sometimes working from within the system isn't enough. Do you think the Voting Rights Act would have been enacted in 1965 without the direct action by students during Freedom Summer or Bloody Sunday and the march to Montgomery? Do you think Lyndon Johnson could have gotten the votes, or would have even tried to, without the actions of the civil rights protesters? No, we would still be waiting.

If the BLM Movement makes you uncomfortable that's a good thing. You should be uncomfortable. Until enough people are dissatisfied with the status quo things will never change. And, unfortunately, the status quo is that all too often people are treated differently because of their race. And in law enforcement that can have deadly results.

alloak is correct when he says that everyone should humble themselves and simple follow orders when dealing with the police. Most black parents have had "the talk" about this with their teen sons. But if alloak grew up in an environment where his father was in prison on a drug charge, many of his friends had been subjected to abuse of power, where he was looked at as a probable perp on a daily basis, he would probably understand a little better that regardless of what you are taught to do if your experience teaches you that the police are the enemy then your survival instincts are going to drive you to flee.

This is a complex problem that is woven into our nation's fabric. Our history is built on a foundation of racial inequality, and although progress has been made the underlying problem hasn't changed much. Just look at how many states moved quickly to enact new laws to inhibit minority voting as soon as the Supreme Court rolled back the provisions of the Voting Rights Act a few years ago. My state of NC led the way.

Most cops are good cops. Some are not. All have a difficult job and often find themselves in danger. Their first priority should be to protect themselves. No one is arguing that. But statistics consistently show that civilians are treated differently by the police based upon their race or ethnicity. This needs to change. It doesn't help that wrongful deaths of unarmed civilians by the police are rarely prosecuted and seldom result in convictions. The advent of smart phones and social media have made this harder to ignore.

It would go a long way toward resolving this issue if the blue wall of silence was broken down. Police departments need to shift their thinking from protecting bad cops to making sure that bad cops are prosecuted and their departments have "clean hands". If the black community had confidence that abuses would not be tolerated there would be no need for the BLM Movement. There are many things that need to change by everyone involved, but nothing will happen by simply trying to "work within the system" as Gina suggests or simply "following orders" as alloak says. It just isn't that simple.


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 12:31 pm
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Man, you are on fire! Nice op-ed there. Much as folks malign the Whipping Post, it really can shine.

My coping strategy has been to attempt to understand. Strangely coincidental with this summer's events, I collected these books for a self-taught 20th Century Black Struggle course:

Native Son - Richard Wright (1940)

Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison (1947)

Autobiography of Malcolm X - as told to Alex Haley

Soul On Ice - Eldridge Cleaver

The Plot to Kill King: The Truth Behind the Assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. - Dr. William F Pepper Esq. (this just came out 2016, by James Earl Ray's lawyer)

(p.s. haha, will get back to you next year or so if/when I actually finish all this. )

Cool

[Edited on 7/10/2016 by BrerRabbit]


 
Posted : July 10, 2016 1:37 pm
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If the BLM Movement makes you uncomfortable that's a good thing. You should be uncomfortable. Until enough people are dissatisfied with the status quo things will never change. And, unfortunately, the status quo is that all too often people are treated differently because of their race. And in law enforcement that can have deadly results.

If I was a police officer I'd be pretty uncomfortable. How can you sign off on an organization that
calls for dead cops? What are you thinking?

Sorry, but I'm sticking with the original premise that BLM is doing more harm than good. Not only that,
but they're hurting their own cause.

[Edited on 7/11/2016 by alloak41]


 
Posted : July 11, 2016 11:51 am
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The Bundy's threatened to kill cops toooooo.......just sayin


 
Posted : July 11, 2016 11:59 am
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How can you sign off on an organization that calls for dead cops?

That sounds pretty serious. Is that on their website or any kind of press release or social media? Not "supporters," but actual representatives of the movement itself?


 
Posted : July 11, 2016 12:15 pm
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The Bundy's threatened to kill cops toooooo.......just sayin

That was real Americans using their 2nd Amendment rights. That was different.


 
Posted : July 11, 2016 12:16 pm
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