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DougMacKenzie
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We are not number 1, but the stats are damning.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Yes, they are.


 
Posted : July 24, 2015 1:04 pm
Rusty
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Liars - damned liars - statisticians.

Can anybody produce a chart comparing the number of people killed in "justifiable self defense" against the number of children shot dead in schools, worshippers murdered in a church, movie goers gunned down at a cinema, people killed in gang related crossfire, family members killed during outbursts of domestic violence and other senseless incidents within a year, month or day? Are more people killed "legitimately" with guns than "wrongfully"?


 
Posted : July 24, 2015 2:59 pm
alloak41
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We are not number 1, but the stats are damning.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Yes, they are.

Damning how? 2.97 homicides per 100,000 population? The stats for cancer and heart disease are much more damning, close to 123 times more damning. Why not 123 times more vitriol for cigarettes, obesity, or what have you? That's the question that resurfaces during each one of these gun debates, and the one nobody will answer. The mortality numbers certainly don't justify the anger, so it must be something else. But what?

I guess you can just put me in the category of not understanding the outright asperity directed at a metal object, one that poses a probability of taking your life that's close to a statistical impossibility. What adds to the mystery is the people that seem to hate guns the most don't even own one.

Not to downplay the tragedy of someone losing their life for ANY reason. Perhaps if I knew someone killed by a gun it would hit closer to home, but I don't know any.

For whatever reason, guns are an emotional issue that illicit such anger, hatred, and resentment.......of an OBJECT.

[Edited on 7/25/2015 by alloak41]


 
Posted : July 24, 2015 6:47 pm
jkeller
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We are not number 1, but the stats are damning.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Yes, they are.

Damning how? 2.97 homicides per 100,000 population? The stats for cancer and heart disease are much more damning, close to 123 times more damning. Why not 123 times more vitriol for cigarettes, obesity, or what have you? That's the question that resurfaces during each one of these gun debates, and the one nobody will answer. The mortality numbers certainly don't justify the anger, so it must be something else. But what?

I guess you can just put me in the category of not understanding the outright asperity directed at a metal object, one that poses a probability of taking your life that's close to a statistical impossibility. What adds to the mystery is the people that seem to hate guns the most don't even own one.

Not to downplay the tragedy of someone losing their life for ANY reason. Perhaps if I knew someone killed by a gun it would hit closer to home, but I don't know any.

For whatever reason, guns are an emotional issue that illicit such anger, hatred, and resentment.......of an OBJECT.

[Edited on 7/25/2015 by alloak41]

Downplaying the tragedy of Los of life is exactly what you have been doing. And, once again, nobody is blaming the object. You know that, but being a troll is much more fun.


 
Posted : July 24, 2015 8:05 pm
alloak41
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We are not number 1, but the stats are damning.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Yes, they are.

Damning how? 2.97 homicides per 100,000 population? The stats for cancer and heart disease are much more damning, close to 123 times more damning. Why not 123 times more vitriol for cigarettes, obesity, or what have you? That's the question that resurfaces during each one of these gun debates, and the one nobody will answer. The mortality numbers certainly don't justify the anger, so it must be something else. But what?

I guess you can just put me in the category of not understanding the outright asperity directed at a metal object, one that poses a probability of taking your life that's close to a statistical impossibility. What adds to the mystery is the people that seem to hate guns the most don't even own one.

Not to downplay the tragedy of someone losing their life for ANY reason. Perhaps if I knew someone killed by a gun it would hit closer to home, but I don't know any.

For whatever reason, guns are an emotional issue that illicit such anger, hatred, and resentment.......of an OBJECT.

[Edited on 7/25/2015 by alloak41]

Downplaying the tragedy of Los of life is exactly what you have been doing. And, once again, nobody is blaming the object. You know that, but being a troll is much more fun.

Where in that post do I say someone is blaming the object?


 
Posted : July 24, 2015 8:14 pm
jkeller
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Posts: 2961
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We are not number 1, but the stats are damning.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Yes, they are.

Damning how? 2.97 homicides per 100,000 population? The stats for cancer and heart disease are much more damning, close to 123 times more damning. Why not 123 times more vitriol for cigarettes, obesity, or what have you? That's the question that resurfaces during each one of these gun debates, and the one nobody will answer. The mortality numbers certainly don't justify the anger, so it must be something else. But what?

I guess you can just put me in the category of not understanding the outright asperity directed at a metal object, one that poses a probability of taking your life that's close to a statistical impossibility. What adds to the mystery is the people that seem to hate guns the most don't even own one.

Not to downplay the tragedy of someone losing their life for ANY reason. Perhaps if I knew someone killed by a gun it would hit closer to home, but I don't know any.

For whatever reason, guns are an emotional issue that illicit such anger, hatred, and resentment.......of an OBJECT.

[Edited on 7/25/2015 by alloak41]

Downplaying the tragedy of Los of life is exactly what you have been doing. And, once again, nobody is blaming the object. You know that, but being a troll is much more fun.

Where in that post do I say someone is blaming the object?

You lack reading, writing and comprehension skills. Plus, you love being a troll.


 
Posted : July 24, 2015 8:30 pm
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