Obama blames The Pentagon for lack of a plan. Obama lies yet again:
Testifying before Congress today General Michael Flynn, Obama’s former DIA chief was “stunned” by Obama’s admission of a lack of a plan.
He stated that there have been a number of plans presented to Obama and each has been rejected.
Gen. Flynn, very close to the E-Ring at The Pentagon confirmed the frustration and low morale.Let's look at what Flynn suggests.
One is retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency under Mr. Obama. Mr. Flynn is urging a much more aggressive approach to the Islamic State and jihadis worldwide.
“Unless the United States takes dramatically more action than we have done so far in Iraq, the fractious, largely Shiite-composed units that make up the Iraqi army are not likely to be able, by themselves, to overwhelm a Sunni stronghold like Mosul, even though they outnumber the enemy by ten to one,” he wrote in Politico. “The United States must be prepared to provide far more combat capabilities and enablers such as command and control, intelligence, logistics and fire support, to name just a few things.”
Globally, he said, “We must engage the violent Islamists wherever they are, drive them from their safe havens and kill them. There can be no quarter and no accommodation.”
Do the American people want to just invade Iraq again? Didn't we try that once already? The Iraqi army outnumbers ISIS in Iraq, but they don't have the courage to fight them. Are you suggesting that we save this country from... whatever again? The Middle East created these groups. Let the Middle East destroy them.
BTW, Flynn testified before Congress in January. You tried to make it look ike is was today. And, Flynn has been out of the DIA since August. Which brings me to this.
The following is an exit interview with James Kittfield of Breaking Defense. Nowhwere does he mention ISIS as being a major problem, probably because when he left the DIA, ISIS was just starting to be seen on the terrorist act.
Meanwhile, your uncredited comment was from an opinion piece on Fox that took much of what Flynn said out of context. Basically, Flynn has a more of a problem with the intelligence community that he does with Obama.
I know, research is very very Difficult for you. 😛
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Flynn testified today dumbass and that testimony has been available to everyone on CSPAN.
“Do the American people want to just invade Iraq again?”
Stupid question.
Obama has the responsibility to do what he said he was going to do: degrade and destroy ISIS.
ISIS exploded on to the area as soon as Obama cut and ran from Iraq.
Obama’s war on terrorism is a complete failure and hundreds of thousands of people are being murdered because Obama is a coward.
The issue is quite simple.
Obama said he will degrade and eventually destroy ISIS.
Almost two years later, Obama says he has no plan to do so.
That is failure to lead.
Obama blames The Pentagon for lack of a plan. Obama lies yet again:
Testifying before Congress today General Michael Flynn, Obama’s former DIA chief was “stunned” by Obama’s admission of a lack of a plan.
He stated that there have been a number of plans presented to Obama and each has been rejected.
Gen. Flynn, very close to the E-Ring at The Pentagon confirmed the frustration and low morale.Let's look at what Flynn suggests.
One is retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency under Mr. Obama. Mr. Flynn is urging a much more aggressive approach to the Islamic State and jihadis worldwide.
“Unless the United States takes dramatically more action than we have done so far in Iraq, the fractious, largely Shiite-composed units that make up the Iraqi army are not likely to be able, by themselves, to overwhelm a Sunni stronghold like Mosul, even though they outnumber the enemy by ten to one,” he wrote in Politico. “The United States must be prepared to provide far more combat capabilities and enablers such as command and control, intelligence, logistics and fire support, to name just a few things.”
Globally, he said, “We must engage the violent Islamists wherever they are, drive them from their safe havens and kill them. There can be no quarter and no accommodation.”
Do the American people want to just invade Iraq again? Didn't we try that once already? The Iraqi army outnumbers ISIS in Iraq, but they don't have the courage to fight them. Are you suggesting that we save this country from... whatever again? The Middle East created these groups. Let the Middle East destroy them.
BTW, Flynn testified before Congress in January. You tried to make it look ike is was today. And, Flynn has been out of the DIA since August. Which brings me to this.
The following is an exit interview with James Kittfield of Breaking Defense. Nowhwere does he mention ISIS as being a major problem, probably because when he left the DIA, ISIS was just starting to be seen on the terrorist act.
Meanwhile, your uncredited comment was from an opinion piece on Fox that took much of what Flynn said out of context. Basically, Flynn has a more of a problem with the intelligence community that he does with Obama.
I know, research is very very Difficult for you. 😛
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Flynn testified today dumbass and that testimony has been available to everyone on CSPAN.
“Do the American people want to just invade Iraq again?”
Stupid question.Obama has the responsibility to do what he said he was going to do: degrade and destroy ISIS.
ISIS exploded on to the area as soon as Obama cut and ran from Iraq.Obama’s war on terrorism is a complete failure and hundreds of thousands of people are being murdered because Obama is a coward.
Got a link? I can't find one. You would think that would be all over the internet if it happened today. Flynn has been attacking Obama's policy since he was forced out of his job. Odd that he has been searching in the private sector and can't get hired.
Like I said, he was out of his job when ISIS became a crisis. And Flynn's solution is to invade. The American don't want a war.
“Do the American people want to just invade Iraq again?”
Stupid question.
Then you are qualified to answer it. But you won't.
If the cowardly iraqi army won't "step up" and protect their own country, why should we spill more blood of american forces.
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Diverting from the question solves nothing pops. Your boy Obama made the statement.
The American People overwhelmingly want ISIS destroyed.
Obama said he will degrade and eventually destroy ISIS.
Almost two years later, Obama says he has no plan to do so.
That is failure to lead.
I'm with Obama. It's much more important to data mine and spy on innocent Americans, especially those damn Tea Partiers and Catholics!
ISIS can wait..
How dare he not jump into a war until a strategy is complete? What a loser. Did he not learn anything from Bush - attack first and then figure out a strategy later!
He's been in the war for over a year already. And how long does it take to complete a strategy? He has no strategy because his aims are incompatible with the means hes willing to use but he won't admit it so he simply passes the blame to others. It's disgraceful and more disgraceful how his die hards continue to defend this naked emperor.
So what exactly do you propose he do Doug? Other than putting boots on the ground again what creative strategy is going to defeat this enemy that really will never be defeated by America?
We created this trainwreck when we deposed Saddam and destabilized the whole region
Do you actually believe the U.S. can solve the ISIS threat? IMHO this is now unfortunately an Arab problem now and the only ones who have a chance to control this is the Arab nations we screwed by creating this mess.[Edited on 6/10/2015 by Bill_Graham]
Piss or get off the pot and stop the bs. If we are going to stop ISIS (which we easily can) thenstop them but you have to go to war and do it. Or get out and forget about it. Don't do it half assed and then blame the Military for not giving you a strategy. There is no strategy where we stop ISIS without actually doing it.
If the cowardly iraqi army won't "step up" and protect their own country, why should we spill more blood of american forces.
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Diverting from the question solves nothing pops. Your boy Obama made the statement.
The American People overwhelmingly want ISIS destroyed.
Obama said he will degrade and eventually destroy ISIS.
Almost two years later, Obama says he has no plan to do so.That is failure to lead.
"my boy"??? isis in iraq is the iraqi government and the iraqi army's problem. billions of u.s. taxpayer dollars have been spent training the useless, cowardly iraqi army. obama just sent 450 more troops to train the iraqi army AGAIN. how can you train an army with no will to fight. I think YOU, mule-scat should join the iraqi army and show em how its done!. oh, but you are a fat lazy slob, who gets winded tying his shoe laces. 😛
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Why do you only see the fight against ISIS as an Iraq matter?
The key to killing ISIS lies in Syria and Obama to too scared to even talk about it.
The U.S. “trainers” are not permitted to engage the enemy. Of the over 3.000 American trainers in Iraq two-thirds of them are security personnel that do no training.
Obama said the words and committed The U.S. to degrade and destroy ISIS.
Then Obama admitted to the world he has no plan almost two years later.
So, did Obama lie in his original statement or did he never intend to go after the terrorists?
Which is it pops?
Just like we have not been able to destroy the Taliban in 14 years of occupation in Afghanistan the U.S. can never destroy ISIS.
Putting U.S. ground troops into the fight is a band aid at best as unless we are willing to stay in country forever as ISIS will just regroup once our troops are gone and the cycle begins all over again.
We created this FUBAR over there by deposing Saddam and destabilizing the region which led to the rise of ISIS. Whether they like it or not the other Arab countries need to clean this mess up as they have something to fight for. We can certainly help but this is an Arab problem now.
I wish we would reinstate the draft. The vast majority of Americans have no idea of the real cost of war.
I wish we would reinstate the draft. The vast majority of Americans have no idea of the real cost of war.
This ^......... and make the politicians sons and daughters serve and see how fast they end the wars.
If the cowardly iraqi army won't "step up" and protect their own country, why should we spill more blood of american forces.
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Diverting from the question solves nothing pops. Your boy Obama made the statement.
The American People overwhelmingly want ISIS destroyed.
Obama said he will degrade and eventually destroy ISIS.
Almost two years later, Obama says he has no plan to do so.That is failure to lead.
He didn't say he had no plan. He said he didn't have a complete plan. And the military I'm sure has given him many options, but probably none that would work. This is not that unlike what Reagan did with Beirut. Reagan gave a speech and said we weren't going to leave, and then 9 days later we started to leave. Was that Reagan's failure to lead, or was it Reagan being smart enough to know that outcome wasn't worth the price. It seems pretty obvious that Obama hasn't been presented a plan that provides a desired outcome with an acceptable price. Is that failure to lead, or is being smart with American lives and taxpayer dollars?
Maybe Obama thinks the military already has it's hands full dealing with global warming.
[Edited on 6/11/2015 by alloak41]
Maybe Obama thinks the military already has it's hands full dealing with global warming.
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If the cowardly iraqi army won't "step up" and protect their own country, why should we spill more blood of american forces.
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Diverting from the question solves nothing pops. Your boy Obama made the statement.
The American People overwhelmingly want ISIS destroyed.
Obama said he will degrade and eventually destroy ISIS.
Almost two years later, Obama says he has no plan to do so.That is failure to lead.
He didn't say he had no plan. He said he didn't have a complete plan. And the military I'm sure has given him many options, but probably none that would work. This is not that unlike what Reagan did with Beirut. Reagan gave a speech and said we weren't going to leave, and then 9 days later we started to leave. Was that Reagan's failure to lead, or was it Reagan being smart enough to know that outcome wasn't worth the price. It seems pretty obvious that Obama hasn't been presented a plan that provides a desired outcome with an acceptable price. Is that failure to lead, or is being smart with American lives and taxpayer dollars?
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After almost two years while ISIS continues to grow and hundreds of thousands people killed you would think Obama would do what he said he would do.
Leadership is doing what you say you are going to do.
In the mean time, people continue to die.
After almost two years while ISIS continues to grow and hundreds of thousands people killed you would think Obama would do what he said he would do.
Leadership is doing what you say you are going to do.
In the mean time, people continue to die.
More proof that this guy doesn't read anything that anyone posts.
Maybe Obama thinks the military already has it's hands full dealing with global warming.
????
How dare he not jump into a war until a strategy is complete? What a loser. Did he not learn anything from Bush - attack first and then figure out a strategy later!
He's been in the war for over a year already. And how long does it take to complete a strategy? He has no strategy because his aims are incompatible with the means hes willing to use but he won't admit it so he simply passes the blame to others. It's disgraceful and more disgraceful how his die hards continue to defend this naked emperor.
So what exactly do you propose he do Doug? Other than putting boots on the ground again what creative strategy is going to defeat this enemy that really will never be defeated by America?
We created this trainwreck when we deposed Saddam and destabilized the whole region
Do you actually believe the U.S. can solve the ISIS threat? IMHO this is now unfortunately an Arab problem now and the only ones who have a chance to control this is the Arab nations we screwed by creating this mess.[Edited on 6/10/2015 by Bill_Graham]
Piss or get off the pot and stop the bs. If we are going to stop ISIS (which we easily can) thenstop them but you have to go to war and do it. Or get out and forget about it. Don't do it half assed and then blame the Military for not giving you a strategy. There is no strategy where we stop ISIS without actually doing it.
You want another war?, send YOUR kids!.
First of all that's total bs. Second of all I said piss or getoff the pot. Don't pretend to fight a war while blaming it on others. If stopping ISIS is not worth it then step forward and SAY SO.
Folks want a strategy? Here's the strategy:
Go back to Iraq, kill as much of ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious forces we can, make things as stable as we can, try and get the citizens and government to the point where they can control the unrest as much as possible, withdraw again, watch ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious force pop up again, then go back to Iraq, kill as much of ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious forces we can, make things as stable as we can, try and get the citizens and government to the point where they can control the unrest as much as possible, withdraw again, watch ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious force pop up again, then go back to Iraq, kill as much of ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious forces we can, make things as stable as we can, try and get the citizens and government to the point where they can control the unrest as much as possible, withdraw again, watch ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious force pop up again, then go back to Iraq, kill as much of ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious forces we can, make things as stable as we can, try and get the citizens and government to the point where they can control the unrest as much as possible, withdraw again, watch ISIS or whatever brutal rebellious force pop up again, then...
...ad infinitum.
How dare he not jump into a war until a strategy is complete? What a loser. Did he not learn anything from Bush - attack first and then figure out a strategy later!
He's been in the war for over a year already. And how long does it take to complete a strategy? He has no strategy because his aims are incompatible with the means hes willing to use but he won't admit it so he simply passes the blame to others. It's disgraceful and more disgraceful how his die hards continue to defend this naked emperor.
So what exactly do you propose he do Doug? Other than putting boots on the ground again what creative strategy is going to defeat this enemy that really will never be defeated by America?
We created this trainwreck when we deposed Saddam and destabilized the whole region
Do you actually believe the U.S. can solve the ISIS threat? IMHO this is now unfortunately an Arab problem now and the only ones who have a chance to control this is the Arab nations we screwed by creating this mess.[Edited on 6/10/2015 by Bill_Graham]
Piss or get off the pot and stop the bs. If we are going to stop ISIS (which we easily can) thenstop them but you have to go to war and do it. Or get out and forget about it. Don't do it half assed and then blame the Military for not giving you a strategy. There is no strategy where we stop ISIS without actually doing it.
You want another war?, send YOUR kids!.
First of all that's total bs. Second of all I said piss or getoff the pot. Don't pretend to fight a war while blaming it on others. If stopping ISIS is not worth it then step forward and SAY SO.
You still did not answer the question. Criticizing Obama for not begin aggressive is easy to do when you have no viable solution. So what do you think he should do? put more U.S. troops in harms way for another unwinnable war?
How dare he not jump into a war until a strategy is complete? What a loser. Did he not learn anything from Bush - attack first and then figure out a strategy later!
He's been in the war for over a year already. And how long does it take to complete a strategy? He has no strategy because his aims are incompatible with the means hes willing to use but he won't admit it so he simply passes the blame to others. It's disgraceful and more disgraceful how his die hards continue to defend this naked emperor.
So what exactly do you propose he do Doug? Other than putting boots on the ground again what creative strategy is going to defeat this enemy that really will never be defeated by America?
We created this trainwreck when we deposed Saddam and destabilized the whole region
Do you actually believe the U.S. can solve the ISIS threat? IMHO this is now unfortunately an Arab problem now and the only ones who have a chance to control this is the Arab nations we screwed by creating this mess.[Edited on 6/10/2015 by Bill_Graham]
Piss or get off the pot and stop the bs. If we are going to stop ISIS (which we easily can) thenstop them but you have to go to war and do it. Or get out and forget about it. Don't do it half assed and then blame the Military for not giving you a strategy. There is no strategy where we stop ISIS without actually doing it.
You want another war?, send YOUR kids!.
First of all that's total bs. Second of all I said piss or getoff the pot. Don't pretend to fight a war while blaming it on others. If stopping ISIS is not worth it then step forward and SAY SO.
You still did not answer the question. Criticizing Obama for not begin aggressive is easy to do when you have no viable solution. So what do you think he should do? put more U.S. troops in harms way for another unwinnable war?
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Typical liberal response; misrepresent the subject and pose a question based on that.
1.) The criticism of Obama is for his stating he would degrade and destroy ISIS and then wimping out.
2.) The responsibility for a “plan” is solely on Obama.
3.) The war maybe “unwinnable” for the weak but American can defeat terrorism.
How many people need to die before Obama does what he stated he would do?
How dare he not jump into a war until a strategy is complete? What a loser. Did he not learn anything from Bush - attack first and then figure out a strategy later!
He's been in the war for over a year already. And how long does it take to complete a strategy? He has no strategy because his aims are incompatible with the means hes willing to use but he won't admit it so he simply passes the blame to others. It's disgraceful and more disgraceful how his die hards continue to defend this naked emperor.
So what exactly do you propose he do Doug? Other than putting boots on the ground again what creative strategy is going to defeat this enemy that really will never be defeated by America?
We created this trainwreck when we deposed Saddam and destabilized the whole region
Do you actually believe the U.S. can solve the ISIS threat? IMHO this is now unfortunately an Arab problem now and the only ones who have a chance to control this is the Arab nations we screwed by creating this mess.[Edited on 6/10/2015 by Bill_Graham]
Piss or get off the pot and stop the bs. If we are going to stop ISIS (which we easily can) thenstop them but you have to go to war and do it. Or get out and forget about it. Don't do it half assed and then blame the Military for not giving you a strategy. There is no strategy where we stop ISIS without actually doing it.
You want another war?, send YOUR kids!.
First of all that's total bs. Second of all I said piss or getoff the pot. Don't pretend to fight a war while blaming it on others. If stopping ISIS is not worth it then step forward and SAY SO.
You still did not answer the question. Criticizing Obama for not begin aggressive is easy to do when you have no viable solution. So what do you think he should do? put more U.S. troops in harms way for another unwinnable war?
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Typical liberal response; misrepresent the subject and pose a question based on that.
1.) The criticism of Obama is for his stating he would degrade and destroy ISIS and then wimping out.
2.) The responsibility for a “plan” is solely on Obama.
3.) The war maybe “unwinnable” for the weak but American can defeat terrorism.How many people need to die before Obama does what he stated he would do?
You still haven't answered the question and you obviously haven't read what others have posted.
Obama blames The Pentagon for lack of a plan. Obama lies yet again:
Testifying before Congress today General Michael Flynn, Obama’s former DIA chief was “stunned” by Obama’s admission of a lack of a plan.
He stated that there have been a number of plans presented to Obama and each has been rejected.
Gen. Flynn, very close to the E-Ring at The Pentagon confirmed the frustration and low morale.Let's look at what Flynn suggests.
One is retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency under Mr. Obama. Mr. Flynn is urging a much more aggressive approach to the Islamic State and jihadis worldwide.
“Unless the United States takes dramatically more action than we have done so far in Iraq, the fractious, largely Shiite-composed units that make up the Iraqi army are not likely to be able, by themselves, to overwhelm a Sunni stronghold like Mosul, even though they outnumber the enemy by ten to one,” he wrote in Politico. “The United States must be prepared to provide far more combat capabilities and enablers such as command and control, intelligence, logistics and fire support, to name just a few things.”
Globally, he said, “We must engage the violent Islamists wherever they are, drive them from their safe havens and kill them. There can be no quarter and no accommodation.”
Do the American people want to just invade Iraq again? Didn't we try that once already? The Iraqi army outnumbers ISIS in Iraq, but they don't have the courage to fight them. Are you suggesting that we save this country from... whatever again? The Middle East created these groups. Let the Middle East destroy them.
BTW, Flynn testified before Congress in January. You tried to make it look ike is was today. And, Flynn has been out of the DIA since August. Which brings me to this.
The following is an exit interview with James Kittfield of Breaking Defense. Nowhwere does he mention ISIS as being a major problem, probably because when he left the DIA, ISIS was just starting to be seen on the terrorist act.
Meanwhile, your uncredited comment was from an opinion piece on Fox that took much of what Flynn said out of context. Basically, Flynn has a more of a problem with the intelligence community that he does with Obama.
I know, research is very very Difficult for you. 😛
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Gen. Flynn testified on the day i said he did.
If you are too fucking stupid to read The Congressional Record that is your failure.
Your referencing the far-left hate site "breakingdefense.com" is so common for the factually challenged.
No wonder why you are a perfect example of the low information voter.
Leadership is doing what you say you are going to do.
Since I already pointed out an example of Reagan not doing what he said he was going to do (failing to lead by your definition), how can we forget another one of your heros doing the same. Just 6 months after Bush said he would not rest until we killed or captured Osama Bin Laden, he had this to say:
I guess by your definition both Bush and Reagan failed to lead as well. Yeah, I know, just because all our past Republican presidents failed to lead doesn't give Obama a free pass to do the same.
Obama should set a red line.
That usually works.
Leadership is doing what you say you are going to do.
Since I already pointed out an example of Reagan not doing what he said he was going to do (failing to lead by your definition), how can we forget another one of your heros doing the same. Just 6 months after Bush said he would not rest until we killed or captured Osama Bin Laden, he had this to say:
I guess by your definition both Bush and Reagan failed to lead as well. Yeah, I know, just because all our past Republican presidents failed to lead doesn't give Obama a free pass to do the same.
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Big difference.
President Reagan is considered the greatest President of the modern era.
Obama is considered the worst.
I guess by your definition both Bush and Reagan failed to lead as well. Yeah, I know, just because all our past Republican presidents failed to lead doesn't give Obama a free pass to do the same.
What do Bush and Reagan have to do with Obama not having an ISIS strategy?
[Edited on 6/13/2015 by alloak41]
Obama should set a red line.
That usually works.
You should stop making troll posts that make you look dumb.
That usually works. 😛
Obama should set a red line.
That usually works.
You should stop making troll posts that make you look dumb.
That usually works. 😛
Never mind how it made Obama look.
