We've been telling you what is wrong with you for years now. 😉

It is the same in both directions. People who love the DTB are telling others that enjoy the TTB that it is inferior somehow. I like them both so don't have the issues some others have I guess.

But the tone of the debates has improved over time. Also some of you guys just came to accept it and move on which is pretty logical seeing as Derek moved on long ago.

These two threads have become just a trolling taunt to see who will take the bait. Not sure what the point is but what the hell.

When the forum only gets 10 posts a day in the Anything Goes section then any posts are good I guess. If you like him then it makes sense to wish him well. If the TTB isn't your thing then that's cool. Lots of other music to listen to.

My wife has been telling me for years what's wrong with me. I don't listen to her, so why should I listen to you?

I agree with your comment about the bi-directionality of the comments. I can understand that someone who likes the TTB can get tired of hearing the same reasons why someone liked the DTB better. But it works the same in reverse, and I don't fault anyone for singing the same praises over and over.

The three bands I used to go see the most often (ABB, DTB and STB) are no longer touring, so I go to a lot fewer shows. It's disappointing, but that's the way it is.

Was it you who talked in the other thread about Clapton's influence on Derek? I don't expect to see a DTB reunion tour any time soon, but maybe Derek will follow Eric again, and return to his guitar playing roots.

I was going to start this post with a paraphrase from an old SNL kit: James, you ignorant slut... but I did not want to risk that you would not get the reference. Speaking of SNL, there's another form of entertainment that is not as good as it used to be.

My wife has been telling me for years what's wrong with me. I don't listen to her, so why should I listen to you?

I wouldn't suggest it. I have been listening to me for my whole life and got nothing but trouble in return.

I suspect that your wife and mine likely sound similar at times. Whenever she tells me what's wrong with me, I laugh and say "and you are still here?".

If it takes some TTB debates to get you and Chuck posting then I can live with it. As long as Chuck doesn't show up wearing spandex. 😛

I was going to start this post with a paraphrase from an old SNL kit: James, you ignorant slut... but I did not want to risk that you would not get the reference. Speaking of SNL, there's another form of entertainment that is not as good as it used to be.

well put

I was going to start this post with a paraphrase from an old SNL kit: James, you ignorant slut... but I did not want to risk that you would not get the reference.

Call me anything! Especially a name that makes it sound like I am getting lucky.

What a pointless thread, just to garner responses I suppose. This band he and Susan lead are currently without equal. Mike Mattison and Kofi aren't with them by accident.

What's wrong with Derek Trucks?
Nothing.
How you feel about Derek Trucks says more about you than about him.

Whats right with derek?

Multi-talented musican, producer, arranger, writer, leader, sideman.
Adds to any band he's in. Commands loyalty from bandmates for years and years.

My wife says he's cute. Susan Tedeschi says he's cute and she IS cute.

Good family: they supported him from day one and obviously got the point across
that if you love music you'll stay away from the hard drug scene

Doesn't have 12 kids, 10 former wives and a rap sheet
Doesn't have a list of rehab facilities to recommend
Hasn't been seen trading barbs with former wives, girlfriends, bandmates or business partners
in the press.

No DUIs.

Managed to arrange his family and work life to allow time with his kids, time to be a Dad,
and to take care of his marriage.

If he'd ask for one thing in life I bet it might be to spend more time with his kids.

Does what he loves for work.

Many of us can't claim the half of this. So not sure why anyone thinks a single thing is wrong with Derek. Many top artists don't come close to this.

We think he's doing everything right. Well, except my wife, thinks he ought to trim that beard.

Whats right with derek?

Multi-talented musican, producer, arranger, writer, leader, sideman.
Adds to any band he's in. Commands loyalty from bandmates for years and years.

My wife says he's cute. Susan Tedeschi says he's cute and she IS cute.

Good family: they supported him from day one and obviously got the point across
that if you love music you'll stay away from the hard drug scene

Doesn't have 12 kids, 10 former wives and a rap sheet
Doesn't have a list of rehab facilities to recommend
Hasn't been seen trading barbs with former wives, girlfriends, bandmates or business partners
in the press.

No DUIs.

Managed to arrange his family and work life to allow time with his kids, time to be a Dad,
and to take care of his marriage.

If he'd ask for one thing in life I bet it might be to spend more time with his kids.

Does what he loves for work.

Many of us can't claim the half of this. So not sure why anyone thinks a single thing is wrong with Derek. Many top artists don't come close to this.

We think he's doing everything right. Well, except my wife, thinks he ought to trim that beard.

Hell Yeah! Sums it up pretty good.

I don't think there is one of us here that doesn't like a great jam.....Yet there becomes a point for musicians where the jam becomes a caricature of itself....so really it no longer becomes improvisation but a repeating pattern of itself and it becomes self stifling

I'm sure Derek could hear himself repeating patterns on tunes and that can become boring for the artist. Honestly I think Derek is jammed out....doesn't enjoy the process of endless solos that most of the time go nowhere except in the minds of those who think expression only comes by quantity of time or notes played....

I also think there is the romantic idea of being able to take someone on a musical journey so why would you stop...well the that journey ended and the rest of ya all forgot to get off and get on the next bus...

The concept that Derek is being held back is....well...ridiculous...

Derek is in a good space. Family does matter.

Whats right with derek?

Multi-talented musican, producer, arranger, writer, leader, sideman.
Adds to any band he's in. Commands loyalty from bandmates for years and years.

My wife says he's cute. Susan Tedeschi says he's cute and she IS cute.

Good family: they supported him from day one and obviously got the point across
that if you love music you'll stay away from the hard drug scene

Doesn't have 12 kids, 10 former wives and a rap sheet
Doesn't have a list of rehab facilities to recommend
Hasn't been seen trading barbs with former wives, girlfriends, bandmates or business partners
in the press.

No DUIs.

Managed to arrange his family and work life to allow time with his kids, time to be a Dad,
and to take care of his marriage.

If he'd ask for one thing in life I bet it might be to spend more time with his kids.

Does what he loves for work.

Many of us can't claim the half of this. So not sure why anyone thinks a single thing is wrong with Derek. Many top artists don't come close to this.

We think he's doing everything right. Well, except my wife, thinks he ought to trim that beard.

That's probably the best post I've seen on this website for years.

Believe me; I don't love every aspect of Derek's current career path. But anyone who asks that question would have had to ask it a dozen times of Miles Davis during his storied career.

Believe me; I don't love every aspect of Derek's current career path. But anyone who asks that question would have had to ask it a dozen times of Miles Davis during his storied career.

THIS is probably the best post I've seen on this website for years!

Great posts Waitinforrain, Goldtop, and EMR...

And not just because I agree with them.

To me it doesn't matter, DTB, ABB, or TTB. It's all about the sound!.Enjoy this treasure.

I'm sure some artists grow in & out of styles or genres of music.I'm sur some get bored with the stuff they've been doing or possibly dislike or have some disagreement with some musician they've been playing with & change it up. Or perhaps they do it for logistical reasons like family or money or time or because they simply really enjoy a certain style & feel they've earned the right to play that style now.Who knows but the artist...& maybe they're not even aware of the real reason.Some may be forced into it by their mgr or record co. or someone else.Some may not really care what their fans want or want to experiment.It may or may not be any of the fans business.I'm sure they all want to be successful-but what constitutes success for them? Personally I like all forms of music & some more than others at times depending on mood.Personally I've gotten upset when some artist or band breaks up or dies or calls it quits or drastically changes style or genres at times. Anyone passionate towards music might feel that way & they may or may not have a right to,but that does keep things going in the music world.Some people shell out $ to see a particular band 100 or more times times,some are lucky if they've seen any band once in a year or decade.Who's to fault any of these people. Some people like go curling or bowling.AS long as Derek doesn't do a solo in spandex shorts he's entitled to do what he wants as far as I'm concerned.

My wife says Derek in spandex is OK with her.

http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/10/derek_trucks_talks_guitar_solo.html

a few excerpts:

Derek, as a guitarist you never seem to wear out your welcome. How do you know when it's time to end a guitar solo?

[Laughs.] You know, when you've said what you need to say it's usually time to get out. I'm a big fan of other guitar players, Duane Allman and tons of them, but I don't really love totally guitar-specific albums. There's a lot of people where it's just all night and it's ... I don't really want to hear that. [Laughs.] And I don't want to be that person either. [Laughs.] The people that I always come back to are the people that leave you wanting a little bit more. I remember seeing B.B. 15 or 20 years ago and you would see him take 15 or 20 solos in a night but it was never too much. It was always just enough. When you left you still would have been happy to hear another one. There are times though when you pull out the trump cards that are in your back pocket. [Laughs.] You go full-bore. But you really have to pick and choose those moments.

What song do you miss playing with the Allmans the most?

Not to be weird but there's really not one at the moment that I'm missing. I think there will definitely be a point where I start looking back on that and maybe tunes with pop up, but it's been such a busy and fulfilling year since I stepped away from it I haven't gone into reflection mode yet. I got to play a lot of those tunes for a long time and it was a huge part of my upbringing so I'm sure if I played one of them it would feel really good really quick. But none of them have been gnawing on me just yet.

t was really cool seeing you play with Eric Clapton when you toured with him around 2006 and 2007. Biggest thing you took away from that tour?

His ability to shed different skins and keep moving. I think that was probably the biggest inspiration. He was part of the Yardbirds and then Cream and Blind Faith and Derek & The Dominoes and I think a lot of people would have got stuck in any one of those and just rode it all to the end and I think he was musically restless enough where he needed to find different things, and I appreciate being able to do that.

nice quotes;only 2 things of note on that; yeh but how does Susan feel about the spandex:), and don't forget the reggae Miami period of Clapton-that was a prety inspirational period to some too...and(it may have inadvertently helped Bob Marley's music too.)

note: I wonder if Derek ever posts on here under a another name. It would be nice to get what he really feels about some of these things!

Betty, i think if you read Derek's words, he's pretty clear in his ideas.

AS long as Derek doesn't do a solo in spandex shorts he's entitled to do what he wants as far as I'm concerned.

Not that it would excite me, but I'd be REALLY interested in seeing that. And I'm sure a lot of the ladies would, too.

Derek continues to blow me away with every album that comes out... Austin City Limits was amazing, I hope it comes out in a DVD!

.... and I don't think he's losing any sleep over the few that can't let go of DTB.

Derek continues to blow me away with every album that comes out... Austin City Limits was amazing, I hope it comes out in a DVD!

.... and I don't think he's losing any sleep over the few that can't let go of DTB.

Exactly, he's in the preeminent band today. Either get a clue, or hold onto the past. That show at ACL was the best I've seen in their history. I can't wait to see what they do next.

Whats right with derek?

Multi-talented musican, producer, arranger, writer, leader, sideman.
Adds to any band he's in. Commands loyalty from bandmates for years and years.

My wife says he's cute. Susan Tedeschi says he's cute and she IS cute.

Good family: they supported him from day one and obviously got the point across
that if you love music you'll stay away from the hard drug scene

Doesn't have 12 kids, 10 former wives and a rap sheet
Doesn't have a list of rehab facilities to recommend
Hasn't been seen trading barbs with former wives, girlfriends, bandmates or business partners
in the press.

No DUIs.

Managed to arrange his family and work life to allow time with his kids, time to be a Dad,
and to take care of his marriage.

If he'd ask for one thing in life I bet it might be to spend more time with his kids.

Does what he loves for work.

Many of us can't claim the half of this. So not sure why anyone thinks a single thing is wrong with Derek. Many top artists don't come close to this.

We think he's doing everything right. Well, except my wife, thinks he ought to trim that beard.

Amen, agree and he can keep the beard, he's still cute!

Crack it's a terrible thing.

Where did you come up with this stuff? Crack pipe or butt crack?

But maybe, just maybe you will find yourself the WHIPPING POST which is where this drivel should be posted.

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"That's very true about TTB. Derek's wife Susan does hold DT and the rest of the band back, and you're right about how she gets way too much of the limelight, and overshadows the real excellent singers and players in the band. Plus, pretty much every single show/setlist is basically the same with no actual improvising at all.

Susan also likes to pretend she's the next Janis Joplin when she gets on stage and belts out blues standards way too many times."

Say what you want, TTB is a VERY safe band that does little improvisational work and many structured covers. It is very generic and unoriginal in my opinion. There is a ton of talent in the band but Susan gets way too much of the limelight. Mike should be singing at least a quarter of the songs instead of standing in the corner in a backup role.

That's very true about TTB. Derek's wife Susan does hold DT and the rest of the band back, and you're right about how she gets way too much of the limelight, and overshadows the real excellent singers and players in the band. Plus, pretty much every single show/setlist is basically the same with no actual improvising at all.

Susan also likes to pretend she's the next Janis Joplin when she gets on stage and belts out blues standards way too many times.

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just because the set lists are the same, it doesn't mean there is no improvising (look at the setlists from the Grateful Dead back in the day, or look at the setlists from another band that Duane Allman played in). For that matter, look at DTB setlists. They didn't vary much.
If you listen to the shows, there is a fair bit of improvisation and changes in arrangements.

[Edited on 4/11/2016 by stormyrider]

Say what you want, TTB is a VERY safe band that does little improvisational work and many structured covers. It is very generic and unoriginal in my opinion. There is a ton of talent in the band but Susan gets way too much of the limelight. Mike should be singing at least a quarter of the songs instead of standing in the corner in a backup role.

That's very true about TTB. Derek's wife Susan does hold DT and the rest of the band back, and you're right about how she gets way too much of the limelight, and overshadows the real excellent singers and players in the band. Plus, pretty much every single show/setlist is basically the same with no actual improvising at all.

Susan also likes to pretend she's the next Janis Joplin when she gets on stage and belts out blues standards way too many times.

[Edited on 4/10/2016 by alpha]

I find it absolutely fascinating to read about what alpha hates, which is apparently everything.

Back when Johnny Lang and Kenny Wayne Shepherd were being Stevie Ray clones .....

Where are Johnny and Kenny now? Still sounding like Stevie Ray Vaughan...

With all due respect, Jonny Lang NEVER sounded like SRV. He TRIED - but I could never get into his histrionic, over - the - top, almost hysterical suburban - white - boy trying to be urban - black - Chicago - blues - dude desperate imitation. Listening to him literally hurts my ears. And I won't even comment on his guitar playing.

I know there are people out there who like him, but it seems most of them are women and they are inexplicably attracted to him a physical level, which I don't get either. To each her own.

KWS has chops. He can play, is respectful of his influences and is very humble. You DO know he's in The Rides with Stephen Stills, don't you? I wouldn't discount him if I were you.

Jazz purist: Miles, why don't you play like you used to play?

Miles: How did I used to play?

Y'all might remember Clapton got himself into Delaney and Bonnie for exactly that reason - to be part of a band playing songs.

With all due respect, this was the least interesting period of Clapton's career for me. I thought his playing bordered on boring and was pretty much faceless during that period.

I understand that was what he wanted- he was coming off his years - long heroin addiction and didn't want the spotlight on him which is why he chose to be a supporting member of someone else's band. But he also payed like he was afraid of upstaging the headliner and as such, to me, just wasn't interesting. He wasn't playing like Eric Clapton. He clearly was uncomfortable with all the expectations that came with that, so he consciously avoided doing that. Absolutely his right as a musician and an artist, but boring for me.

To compound the contrast he had just come off what was arguably the most creative and intense period in his career up to that point - for me, those three October '70s Fillmore East D&D shows are the pinnacle of his career and will never be equaled. I don't expect him to, but it would've been nice if it'd seemed like he was interested in reaching for that once in a while. To me, the only time he did in the intervening 46 years has been when he took Derek out on tour with him.

Kinda ironic, no?

Notice how many guitar heros step away from great bands and flounder, putting out uneven music.

Joe Perry, for one, comes to mind....