TONY IOMMI Confirms That TONY MARTIN-Era BLACK SABBATH Albums Will Be Reissued In 2023
Tony Iommi has confirmed that the albums BLACK SABBATH recorded with singer Tony Martin will be reissued in 2023.
The legendary SABBATH guitarist touched upon the group's re-release plans while celebrating what would have been drummer Cozy Powell's 75th birthday on Thursday, December 29.
Iommi took to his social media to share a photo of Powell and he included the following message: "Cozy Powell would have been 75 today. Looking forward to the release of the IRS albums in 2023, a tribute to his great playing."
Martin most recently spoke about previously announced plans to reissue the albums he recorded with SABBATH last month in an interview with Canada's The Metal Voice. At the time he said: "Honestly, I have no idea what's happening with it. I know it's gonna be next year, but that's all I know."
This past summer, Martin told "The Rock And Metal Profs: The History And Philosophy Of Rock And Metal" podcast that "two record labels" were going to re-release the albums he recorded with SABBATH. "I don't know when, and I don't know what it's gonna look like," he said. "There was some suggestion a while back that we might be able to put extra tracks and stuff on it. I did offer, and I went to see [BLACK SABBATH guitarist] Tony Iommi and offered some things. And then he said we can't use anything new 'cause nothing new can be released under the BLACK SABBATH name. It can only be stuff that's got the original four members on it.
"I'm expecting it to be a remixed version of whatever the original was; that's what I'm expecting," Tony added. "So I await as you do to find out. Let me know if you hear it first."
When the interviewer expressed hope that the box set will include some live recordings from the Martin era of SABBATH, either in audio or video format, Tony said: "I recorded the writing session with… Eddie Van Halen came over and helped us write one of the tracks [for 1994's 'Cross Purposes' album]. And I had an eight-track recorder at the time in the 1980s, and I used to take it everywhere, this thing. I've got all of the writing sessions and rehearsals recorded. So I sent [Iommi] this, and he went, 'Wow! That's fucking great.' And I said, 'Well, you're welcome to use it, if you wanna put that on.' So, I don't know… Maybe you'll get that on there."
Martin added: "It's great to hear Eddie play."
BLACK SABBATH released six albums with Martin on vocals: "The Eternal Idol" (1987),"Headless Cross" (1989),"Tyr" (1990),"Cross Purposes" (1994),"Cross Purposes Live" (1995) and "Forbidden" (1995). Eventually, Martin and his "Forbidden"-era bandmates were ousted when Iommi reunited with SABBATH's fellow original members.
This past January, Martin reflected on his time with SABBATH during an appearance on "The Ron Keel Podcast", saying: "It doesn't haunt me. It's not a bad thing. I've got a lot to be grateful for. SABBATH is the reason why you, and the world, knows about my voice. So there are things to be grateful for. It was hard work for me. I'm 12 years younger than the rest of the guys, so even just circle of friends was different — they're hanging out with Ian Gillan and Brian May, and my best friend is Dave down the road. So that was a gap. And also the experience — they were way ahead of me in experience, at least 12 years further up the road from me, and I never could quite catch them up; they will always have that much more experience than me. So that was hard work."
He continued: "When I first got the gig, it was actually 1986 that I was put on standby when they were with Glenn Hughes on the 'Seventh Star' album. And I don't know what the issues were, but something went wrong with Glenn and they put me on standby. That scared me to death, 'cause it's Glenn Hughes. I can't sing like Glenn Hughes; nobody can sing like Glenn Hughes. Only Glenn Hughes can sing like Glenn Hughes. So that was really scary. Then they got Ray Gillen in. Then he left — he left to join BLUE MURDER with John Sykes, so they called me again and said, 'You'd better come down to the studio and try this out.' And they gave me one song, which was 'The Shining' off 'Eternal Idol', and then two days later said, 'Okay. You've got the job. You've got a week to finish the album.' So right from the start it was scary — it was huge; suddenly being the frontman of BLACK SABBATH was just ridiculous. And yeah, the whole association with me and my voice lasted 11 years."
Six years ago, Iommi told I Heart Guitar that "it's a shame" that "it took a lot for people to accept" Martin as SABBATH's vocalist. "It's taken all these years later for people to say, 'Oh blimey, that was a good band with good singing.' So it took a long time to get people to really realize how good it was."
In 2018, Iommi spent time in the studio remixing "Forbidden" for a future release. The LP, which features Martin, drummer Cozy Powell and bassist Neil Murray, is often regarded as SABBATH's worst studio recording.
In a 2012 interview with Über Röck, Martin said that he was "surprised" to see Iommi criticizing him in the guitarist's "Iron Man: My Journey Through Heaven And Hell With Black Sabbath" book (referring to the Martin period, especially the touring phase following the release of "Cross Purposes" in 1994, Iommi lambasted his former singer as "unprofessional" and having "no stage presence"). Martin said: "I mean, they never said anything to me. Surely, if you've got a problem, the first person you should say something to is the person that's in the band with you... It sounds like a really stupid thing to say, as they didn't say anything to my face — and, if that's the case, then more fool them for not saying anything, because, you know, we could have fixed it. I said to them, endlessly, that if there was anything they wanted changed, done differently, just to say and we could fix it, but clearly, they didn't, they hadn't got the guts to, obviously, and to write about it in a book afterwards seems a bit daft to me. I'm not bitter about it, but it is surprising... It seems a bit stupid to say that after the event."
Powell died on April 5, 1998 following a car crash, driving his Saab 9000 in bad weather on the M4 motorway near Bristol, while talking to his girlfriend on his mobile phone. He was living at Lambourn in Berkshire at the time and had returned to the studio shortly before his death to record with FLEETWOOD MAC co-founder Peter Green. By that time, he had been the drummer on at least 66 albums, with minor contributions on many other recordings. It was generally felt that Powell's death was a great loss to the world of popular music. Countless rock-based drummers have cited Cozy Powell as an influence.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
I own some of the Tony Martin albums, and as a completist, I'll be tempted to complete my Sabbath collection.
That being said, while those albums are solid, they are kind of generic. They don't have the weirdness of the Ozzy or Gillan stuff, nor the fire of the two Dio albums. I don't listen to the Martin-era stuff that I do own, so I don't know how fast I'll pull the trigger on these.
Mind you, the late-night Amazon surfing does often end up with a sizable CD order happening...
Posted by: @jimsheridanI own some of the Tony Martin albums, and as a completist, I'll be tempted to complete my Sabbath collection.
That being said, while those albums are solid, they are kind of generic. They don't have the weirdness of the Ozzy or Gillan stuff, nor the fire of the two Dio albums. I don't listen to the Martin-era stuff that I do own, so I don't know how fast I'll pull the trigger on these.
Mind you, the late-night Amazon surfing does often end up with a sizable CD order happening...
Ha!! I am the same also! On Amazon a few nights ago and had a cart with about 3-4 CD's in it. Have not completed the order yet.
I hear what you are saying about the Martin stuff. I always really liked Eternal Idol. I have only heard some rough demos with Ray Gillen from these sessions. Now that guy could sing.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
i want to see what the bonus material will be
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Yeah, Ray Gillen was great. The first time I saw Sabbath was his first concert with them. Obviously, we had no idea who he was. We were expecting Glenn Hughes!
Posted by: @jimsheridanYeah, Ray Gillen was great. The first time I saw Sabbath was his first concert with them. Obviously, we had no idea who he was. We were expecting Glenn Hughes!
Wow , pretty cool you got to see that. I dont think he did very many shows with BS, right? I had a live show I recorded of that lineup fom back in the 80's. I wonder what happened to all of those Westwood One live concert radio shows?
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Ozzy has canceled the remaining dates on his tour & announced his retirement from touring - guessing it’ll stick, you can’t rock out in your mid-70s - brain/heart say yes, body & reality disagree - love Ozzy
Posted by: @jszfunkPosted by: @jimsheridanYeah, Ray Gillen was great. The first time I saw Sabbath was his first concert with them. Obviously, we had no idea who he was. We were expecting Glenn Hughes!
Wow , pretty cool you got to see that. I dont think he did very many shows with BS, right? I had a live show I recorded of that lineup from back in the 80's. I wonder what happened to all of those Westwood One live concert radio shows?
More than likely you can find them on bootlegs. If I have time later I will search the vendors I deal with to see what Ray Gillen shows they have and post the info here
Evidently there was a deluxe edition of Seventh Star released, maybe only in Europe?, with a bonus disc of a Hammersmith concert with Gillen on vocals.
I can't find it on Amazon US but it is available used from Amazon UK
Nice writeup and a video of the Hammersmith concert
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