The Grateful Dead Cornell 1977 getting an official release

I guess they got the reels back.

They are streaming it there also, listening to it now, cool

Three different releases...
Box set of 4 shows from that week.
Cornell on 3 CD
Cornell on 5 LP
http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-get-shown-light-box?referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dead.net%2F

The only pure analog would be straight from reel to vinyl. Any remaster will have a digital link in the chain. Vinyl is superior as a longterm storage media, will play on a handcranked Victrola after the apocalypse, you will get lots of exercise getting up ten times a show to change the record, and it is lots of fun to watch the record go round and round.
Preordered my CDs last night, thx for the heads up!

Do you have a Victrola ? After the apocalypse can we all bring our albums over ?

Absolutely, gonna take a lotta dogs to crank us thru these stacks of vinyl Dead

Yeah joyful, i could be wrong but I just don't see how or why any engineer would remaster with ancient analog equiment by hand, to another tape, to maintain analog purity. My guess is there hasn't been an analog remaster of anything since the 20th century.

i'll get the standalone show. just order the daves picks subscription at the start on january and money is low

I hear ya man, I kind of dread them remastering all those bettyboards, the bastids are gonna kill us.
[Edited on 2/18/2017 by BrerRabbit]

Whoa holy crap... i kept hearing 5-8-77 Barton Hall Cornell referred to as "The Show That Never Happened". Finally got curious enough to type it into the search engine.
Here is what came up:
There's been a lot of talk lately about the legendary fake show on 5/8/77. I've kept my silence on the subject for 22 years ... now it's finally time to come clean on the whole subject.
The whole idea began back in late 1969/early 1970. The Department of Defense and the CIA were very disappointed by the way the Vietnam War was progressing. Not only were we losing but, more importantly, the US public did not approve of the war and, worse yet, weren't believing everything the military said about what was happening. This was an unprecedented event. Every other recent war was viewed positively by the public ... or at least with apathy in the case of Korea. Something had to be done. They decided to take a page from the Soviets and experiment with mind control. Together with Disney and a fledgling computer company called Microsoft, they set out to prove that brainwashing could really work on the very people who opposed
them: the hippies.
It isn't widely known but Cornell was actually the second test of these mind control procedures. The first occurred in mid-1975 and was a dismal failure. 2 major mistakes were made. First, they picked the one time that the Dead were not touring. This created all sorts of problems with the subject audience. The more serious mistake was in not updating the criteria of the experiment. Due to typical government inefficiency, they used the 1969 version of the Dead that was playing when the program was conceived. The sudden appearance of Pigpen, who had died 2 years earlier, literally blew the minds of those in attendance. 6 months were spent erasing all traces of the "show" and carefully rebuilding as much of their minds as possible. The
subjects were eventually released and most of them became evangelists, their only lingering memory of the whole experiment being an unshakeable belief that they'd witnessed a true miracle.
Unfortunately, no tapes have been found from this first experiment. That's a real shame because the version of Dark Star->St Stephen->Eleven->Lovelight used was supposedly the best ever. After a few drinks, the original scientists still speak in awe about the music heard that day.
By Nov 1977, everyone was ready for the second test. This time, they learned from their mistakes. A small group of college students were hired to attend shows from 1976 through 1977. Our job was to collect tapes of the Dead's performances, select which tunes to use, and to
help identify subjects for the upcoming experiment. The location and date were chosen with equal care. It was a off-day during the tour and the location close enough to the real concerts to be believed. Of more
importance was the late snowfall that day. That unusual and easily confirmed event provided the glue that would hold the implanted memories together. Even now 22 years later, people "remembering" that concert use almost identical words to describe leaving the show.
Overall, the experiment was a great success. Of course, some people were given slightly different memories. Some, like Teddy Goodbear, "remember" taping the show and were even provided "Audience" tapes to further cement the hoax. Still others remember getting "horribly smashed" up front. None of this actually occurred.
A week after the "concert" experiment, a 2nd test was done on the town of Cornell itself. In order to perfect this hoax, the town itself must also be convinced that the concert took place. Disney had acquired owner- ship of all the local TV and radio stations through dummy corporations. Using special chips developed by Microsoft, they played sublimbminal messages to every man, woman and child in a 100 mile radius of Barton Hall. For the most part, this programming still holds today although some people did prove resistant to the message.
As far as the source of the music, for the most part the list posted by "brew ziggins" is correct. The only mystery remaining is the Scarlet-> Fire. That was actually performed by the Dead specifically for this experiment. Since Jerry worked for the CIA, it was easy to convince him and the rest of the band to go along. Plus he liked the idea of "pranking" a large group of people like this. The fabled 2/6/77 "take a step back" rehearsal tape is also from material taped for these experiments.
The soundboard tapes in circulation were leaked by Betty O'Connell who
edited the original tapes. I don't know if it was just a coincidence or not, but they were leaked at about the same time as the tapes recorded by Betty Cantor were found. In any event, they became part of the so-called "Betty Boards". Leaking these tapes also provided the first cracks in the hoax to appear since the tapes were distributed to people who were not in the experiment and who knew that no show was performed that day. It was necessary to obtain their silence through blackmail, bribery and in extreme cases, mind control itself. That's also how this "show" came to be listed in all the popular Dead show guides like DeadBase.
So what's happened to these mind control techniques used in this experiment? Microsoft has used this power to become one of the biggest, most influential companies in history. They sure didn't become that big by providing quality products. It was used to shape public reaction to the Gulf War. It's also clear that George Bush never understood the full power of these methods. . There are also indications that this technology might explain the otherwise unbelievable popularity of rap music.
That's the whole story.
"BARTON HALL, ITHACA, NY 5/8/77 -- The Show That Never Happened"
Track listing Actual Source
------------ ---------------
1.Minglewood Blues [4:47] Winterland 3/20/77
2.Loser [7:30] Springfield 4/23/77
3.El Paso [4:22] Chicago 5/13/77
4.They Love Each Other [6:59] Lakeland 5/21/77
5.Jack Straw [6:00] Tempe 10/6/77
6.Deal [5:43] St. Paul 5/11/77
7.Lazy Lightnin' [3:29] > St. Louis 5/15/77
8.Supplication [4:21] "
9.Brown-Eyed Women [5:12] Winterland 6/8/77
10.Mama Tried [2:37] Seattle 9/29/77
11.Row Jimmy [10:52] Fox, Atlanta 5/19/77
12.Dancin' in the Streets [15:43] Pembroke Pines 5/22/77 (DP3)
Set II:
13.Scarlet Begonias [9:14] > ???
14.Fire on the Mountain [15:21] ???
15.Estimated Prophet [8:32] Passaic NJ 4/27/77
16.St. Stephen [4:43] > Mostly Passaic NJ 6/18/76
17.Not Fade Away [16:22] > with some tricky splicing of the
18.St. Stephen [1:53] > middle of an unidentified NFA
19.Morning Dew [13:36] Cow Palace 12/31/76
Encore:
20.One More Saturday Night [4:54] Springfield 4/23/77
[this is something I sent to David Gans after he announced that he
would be playing excerpts from this "show" on the Grateful Dead Hour.
Given the, ah, wide range of opinions elicited by this show, I figured
this would come in handy.]
OFFICIAL 5-8-77 COMPLAINT FORM
(please check all that apply)
Why are you wasting
[ ] your time
[ ] our time
[ ] precious FM bandwidth
...by playing 5-8-77?
Everybody on the planet already
[ ] knows that show is completely overrated.
[ ] has a copy.
[ ] is waiting to buy this show as a Dick's Pick.
[ ] owns the bootleg.
[ ] has figured out that the show never even happened.
When I listen to the Grateful Dead Hour, I want to hear
[ ] More Pigpen shows.
[ ] More Brent shows.
[ ] More Vince shows.
[ ] y dont U plays ome PHISH!!!!??
If you were going to play that show anyway, why didn't you play
[ ] The complete "Lazy Lightning/Supplication"?
[ ] My copy, which is A+++++++++++++ sound quality?
[ ] 5-9-77 instead?
Why didn't you include an interview with
[ ] Dennis McNally?
[ ] Rob Eaton?
[ ] Mickey Hart?
[ ] Phil's liver?
[ ] jeff .tiedrich?
[ ] Brew Ziggins?
[ ] Chyna Kate?
In the future, please refrain from playing:
[ ] Any show that we've already heard before.
[ ] Any show that is in any way "overrated".
[ ] Any show that is not a "classic".
[ ] Any show that is not from 1973.
[ ] Any show that didn't actually happen.
____
and
Um..here's an interview with nutcase/presidential candidate, Lyndon
LRouche:......
LaROUCHE: He was pro-Nazi.(Carl Jung) He was an occultist, satanic cultism.
I don't know if he went as far as (Aleister) Crowley did in identifying
Satan, but it was the same structure. Allen Dulles(C.I.A. director) was very
close to this crowd personally. As to what was going on in Allen's mind at
this time I don't fully know. But then you get the MK-ULTRA operation.
60 Greatest Conspiracies: The mind control operation?
LaROUCHE: That was an Allen Dulles period operation which was run together
with the occult types in British intelligence, such as Aldous Huxley. And
also Gregory Bateson who created, for example, the Grateful Dead out of an
MK-ULTRA operation at the Palo Alto Veteran's Hospital where he was
supervising. The first United States-grown rock group of that type, the
Grateful Dead, was generated as a British intelligence operation by the
Occult Bureau of Huxley and bateson out of the Palo Alto Veteran's Hospital
where they were doing LSD and related experiments.
60 Greatest Conspiracies: Why would British intelligence want to put out a
rock roup?
LaROUCHE: Well, this is part of the Satanism business. Call it the
counterculture. Call it the Dionysius model of the counterculture. Rock is
essentially a revival of the ancient Dionysic, Bacchic rituals. Lots of
people or long periods of time in that kind of particular rhythmic ritual
which was probably struck upon empirically many thousands of years ago for
this type of cult. It does have a relationship to the Alpha rhythms of the
brain. It does produce these sorts of states. If combined with a little
alcohol and more, shall we say, mood shaping substances, with youth, with
funny sex, this does produce a profound change of a countercultural type.
Another word for it: New Age. the longer term: age of Aquarius. People were
experimenting with various utopian models, constructing small groups
experimentally which were considered New Age types. How to create
experimental types that might survive the aftermath of a general nuclear
war.
60 Greatest Conspiracies: Was this whole trend continued after Dulles'
departure?
LaROUCHE: He was not the controlling factor. I wouldn't make him the evil
black widow spider. He was part of it. The operation goes way back. But in
the United States this particular operation goes to about 1938. The Nazis
were operating in the 1930s out of Hollywood and elsewhere with an occult
astrology racket kind of intelligence operation.
At that point the Huxley operation out there which is already established,
the marijuana operation and so forth in the 1930s, was already hooked up.
1963 I would say was a watershed year for explosion of this thing, around
the LSD, Beatles proliferation. And then you have another one in recent
years where explicit Satanism has really exploded
[Edited on 2/18/2017 by BrerRabbit]

Of course Cornell happened. Sasquatch was slinging jerky on Shakedown.
I just got the single on CD. I have too many GD reissues and the Garcia v.8 is still in the pipeline.

Brer Rabbit your post is hilarious. Is there a link to the original or is that all your writing?
I found it Brer Rabbit.
Thanks for the humor.
[Edited on 2/19/2017 by BillyBlastoff]

No man - i didnt write that, it is pretty good but that is kindergarden compared to the stuff I would dream up- I generally go more for the time travel angle, like Cornell was the time portal the dead used for their late 20th century timeline intervention.That MK Ultra CIA LSD material is kind of tame.
I have a really twisted theory about Woodstock, remind me to run that by you sometime.
[Edited on 2/19/2017 by BrerRabbit]

The trick was getting the portals to open.
After that "the shape it takes will be yours to choose".

I have a really twisted theory about Woodstock, remind me to run that by you sometime.
[Edited on 2/19/2017 by BrerRabbit]
Hey Brer-Twisted is nice-can you tell us? i assume its about the concert not the town?
The '77 show is tremendous but i seem to be fixated on shows from '71 & '73 right now.Jerry certainly opened some portals on these shows
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