Blackmore Vs Garcia
Blackmore = Geetar player
Garcia = Musician
Nugent = turd
Deep Purple = 70's stadium rock
The Dead = a culture and a broad perceptive of American Music
Jerry could play in many genres go listen to his complete body of work from his own JGB to the dead to his work in the studio plus the Grisman collaborations
Blackmore.....70s' rock guitar....nothing else
Louder and faster does not = better
Now if you prefer really loud fast guitar that's cool but Garcia and Blackmore are from 2 entirely different backgrounds....
If you believe that of Blackmore you do not know his music. I would say Blackmore's Night is far from 70's rock and he could play any genre of music he chose as well.
I will give you credit in rightly stating that we are comparing apples and oranges.
In any case it is funny how this thread degenerated into a Blackmore vs. Garcia pissing match with some posters attacking Blackmore and defending Garcia like he was a family member. 
Ripping way more notes per second just means that you can play fast
Faster is better. Darwin proved that.
a ted Nugent ..he's not in my top 100......and as a person he is a child molester piece of crap and personally I don't give a **** what he thinks about jerry
The Nuge is faster than Garcia too.
Eat dust, deadheads! Blackmore and the Nuge are way faster!
And louder. Way louder.
Blackmore and the Nuge are better than Coltrane too!
Blackmore Vs Garcia
Blackmore = Geetar player
Garcia = Musician
Nugent = turd
Deep Purple = 70's stadium rock
The Dead = a culture and a broad perceptive of American Music
Jerry could play in many genres go listen to his complete body of work from his own JGB to the dead to his work in the studio plus the Grisman collaborations
Blackmore.....70s' rock guitar....nothing else
Louder and faster does not = better
Now if you prefer really loud fast guitar that's cool but Garcia and Blackmore are from 2 entirely different backgrounds....
If you believe that of Blackmore you do not know his music. I would say Blackmore's Night is far from 70's rock and he could play any genre of music he chose as well.
I will give you credit in rightly stating that we are comparing apples and oranges.
In any case it is funny how this thread degenerated into a Blackmore vs. Garcia pissing match with some posters attacking Blackmore and defending Garcia like he was a family member.
What I heard in person for about 10 minutes(Rainbow show) plus his body of work that I heard with deep purple didn't make me want to explore anything else....I'm just more into roots music...blues....country...etc really loud rock guitar bores me to the teeth....he's just another dime-a-dozen 70's rock guitar dude....If he could play in other genre's I'm sure he would have explored them since he didn't I'd have to assume that rock guitar is his thang....Anything you throw at me with him in it will be loud rock guitar no matter the name of the band....
Put up a vid of him playing jazz or country or blue grass or "real" blues not British I wish we knew what blues was blues....alla Gary Moore....Alvin Lee...Jimmy page....etc...not one of them does a thing for me....
Put up a vid of him playing an acoustic tune
it'll all be balls out rock guitar..... its what he does...If you like it its all good....
Blackmore Vs Garcia
Blackmore = Geetar player
Garcia = Musician
Nugent = turd
Deep Purple = 70's stadium rock
The Dead = a culture and a broad perceptive of American Music
Jerry could play in many genres go listen to his complete body of work from his own JGB to the dead to his work in the studio plus the Grisman collaborations
Blackmore.....70s' rock guitar....nothing else
Louder and faster does not = better
Now if you prefer really loud fast guitar that's cool but Garcia and Blackmore are from 2 entirely different backgrounds....
If you believe that of Blackmore you do not know his music. I would say Blackmore's Night is far from 70's rock and he could play any genre of music he chose as well.
I will give you credit in rightly stating that we are comparing apples and oranges.
In any case it is funny how this thread degenerated into a Blackmore vs. Garcia pissing match with some posters attacking Blackmore and defending Garcia like he was a family member.
What I heard in person for about 10 minutes(Rainbow show) plus his body of work that I heard with deep purple didn't make me want to explore anything else....I'm just more into roots music...blues....country...etc really loud rock guitar bores me to the teeth....he's just another dime-a-dozen 70's rock guitar dude....If he could play in other genre's I'm sure he would have explored them since he didn't I'd have to assume that rock guitar is his thang....Anything you throw at me with him in it will be loud rock guitar no matter the name of the band....
Put up a vid of him playing jazz or country or blue grass or "real" blues not British I wish we knew what blues was blues....alla Gary Moore....Alvin Lee...Jimmy page....etc...not one of them does a thing for me....
Put up a vid of him playing an acoustic tune
it'll all be balls out rock guitar..... its what he does...If you like it its all good....
As I expected you don't know his music. I am not wasting my time defending him to you as I honestly don't care if you like the man's music or not. I just find it curious that you and others feel the need to attack him to defend Garcia's honor over a silly picture of him in a tee shirt.
if you really want to be subjective go research him yourself. Listen to some of his Blackmore's Night stuff where he plays mandolin and other string instruments.
You already stated what genre of music you like so nothing I could post will ever changer your mind.
Yup, Blackmore is truly the Trump of guitar players. Look how he is getting some of you all wound up over his dumb statements to the point you feel the need to insult his playing ability to defend Garcia's honor.
Here is a Guitar World interview where Blackmore bakes a cake with a turd in it and all but says he is better than Hendrix, (haha butt still sore from getting reamed by Randy Hansen?) and says he was influenced by the Allman Brothers. Well, truth be told, Blackmore is louder and faster than Hendrix:
http://www.thehighwaystar.com/interviews/blackmore/rb199102xx.html
GW: Around Fireball and Machine Head [1972], your playing took on a blues and funk edge. Did Hendrix have anything to do with that?
BLACKMORE: I was impressed by Hendrix. Not so much by his playing, as his attitude - he wasn't a great player, but everything else about him was brilliant. Even the way he walked was amazing. His guitar playing, though, was always a little bit weird.
Hendrix inspired me, but I was still more into Wes Montgomery. I was also into the Allman Brothers around the time of those albums.
Yup, Blackmore is truly the Trump of guitar players. Look how he is getting some of you all wound up over his dumb statements to the point you feel the need to insult his playing ability to defend Garcia's honor.
Friend...it seems you are the guy wound up....He plays rock guitar....if you like it its all good....I saw him live and he walked off the stage and I grew up with deep purple being played every 5 minutes on the radio as a teen and then rainbow.
From what I heard both live and what was played on the radio...I wasn't interested...simple as that....no need to invest any more time into him because Elmore James will always be way more interesting or Coltrane....There's only so many hours in a day...I have none left for Ritchie Blackmore's music....there's way too many more interesting artists out there to explore
Credit for this ludicrous thread goes to the OP. What possible point or purpose could there be in posting a picture of Ritchie Blackmore wearing a shirt criticizing the Grateful Dead?
Garbage in, garbage out.
Yup, Blackmore is truly the Trump of guitar players. Look how he is getting some of you all wound up over his dumb statements to the point you feel the need to insult his playing ability to defend Garcia's honor.
trump at what ...you cant be serious ..and yes I do have all the rainbows albums ..my brother was a huge fan ..please...like I said his years were in the seventies
Credit for this ludicrous thread goes to the OP. What possible point or purpose could there be in posting a picture of Ritchie Blackmore wearing a shirt criticizing the Grateful Dead?
Garbage in, garbage out.
he accomplished exactly what he hoped. Getting people would up and starting a pissing match.
Yup, Blackmore is truly the Trump of guitar players. Look how he is getting some of you all wound up over his dumb statements to the point you feel the need to insult his playing ability to defend Garcia's honor.
Friend...it seems you are the guy wound up....He plays rock guitar....if you like it its all good....I saw him live and he walked off the stage and I grew up with deep purple being played every 5 minutes on the radio as a teen and then rainbow.
From what I heard both live and what was played on the radio...I wasn't interested...simple as that....no need to invest any more time into him because Elmore James will always be way more interesting or Coltrane....There's only so many hours in a day...I have none left for Ritchie Blackmore's music....there's way too many more interesting artists out there to explore
LOL, No I am not getting worked up as I don't base my music tastes on other peoples opinions.
And Fair enough not caring for Blackmore's music but I find it odd that you can categorize him based on 10 minutes of seeing him live and hearing Smoke on the Water played on the radio for the 1000's time. Like I said the man plays more than just rock. he plays blues, his music can have jazz, Asian and middle eastern influences etc.
Blackmore's Night is Renaissance Music with zero rock and Ritchie plays multiple acoustic string instruments. Again maybe not to your liking but his playing is excellent and diverse none the less.
I can understand you not liking the man for insulting The Dead but seems odd to have to resort to insulting his talent as if he insulted a family member. I think Ritchie is an acehole and met him when he lived in the CT town I lived in and he is a odd cat but that does not change my ability to recognize his talent just as I recognize Garcia even though I am not a diehard Dead fan.
"I love the Dead. As far as Jerry Garcia, Jerry Garcia could walk on water. He could do anything any man could ever do. He's a prince.". Duane Allman
“The Grateful Dead? Well, I never really thought so much of them.” - Gregg Allman
"I love the Dead. As far as Jerry Garcia, Jerry Garcia could walk on water. He could do anything any man could ever do. He's a prince.". Duane Allman
“The Grateful Dead? Well, I never really thought so much of them.” - Gregg Allman
I know which one I go with.
Sorry Goldtop but you are way off here. Blackmore hasn't played rock for almost 20 years and during that time, he has rarely touched an electric guitar on stage or studio. It is why he keeps saying that you don't know his music. Die hards dream of him picking up an electric.
He started off as a session guitarist and played many styles as did Page and others. Lover of the Hank Marvin finger style. Helped bring the whole classical element into rock. Influenced a ton of people and can flat out play. I have sat through sound checks where he has played some of the most brilliant blues that I have ever heard. Not everyone likes the same thing which is great but to pass him off as just another rock guy is hardly accurate.
On top of it all I don't even think that shirt is real. 😉
Sorry Goldtop but you are way off here. Blackmore hasn't played rock for almost 20 years and during that time, he has rarely touched an electric guitar on stage or studio. It is why he keeps saying that you don't know his music. Die hards dream of him picking up an electric.
He started off as a session guitarist and played many styles as did Page and others. Lover of the Hank Marvin finger style. Helped bring the whole classical element into rock. Influenced a ton of people and can flat out play. I have sat through sound checks where he has played some of the most brilliant blues that I have ever heard. Not everyone likes the same thing which is great but to pass him off as just another rock guy is hardly accurate.
On top of it all I don't even think that shirt is real. 😉
You are correct I don't know his music because when I went to see him he walked off the stage after being upstaged by a tribute act....so that = not professional to me.....Since that and deep purple are my experiences I found no interest in finding out more....
Again there are so many more interesting players out there...So am I going to invest my time in a prima donna or someone who moves me....It's simple he obviously is a skilled player his skills set doesn't interest me
Randy Hansen came out and blew the place apart finishing with a 20+ minute Voo doo child blowing up his amp until it caught fire and leaving everyone calling his name even as Rainbow came out on stage....People just kept yelling for Randy Hansen and it pissed off Blackmore and he walked off the stage after about 10 minutes show over...
Well now that certainly does sound EXACTLY like Ritchie. It is NOT my intention to get in the middle of this argument, especially between people like Goldtop and Canadian Mule whose opinions I both respect.
I have a Deep Purple DVD called Come Hell Or High Water...........Mach II (Blackmore/Gillan/Glover/Lord/Paice). If anyone thinks that's "Spinal Tap" type stuff............well, I think you ought to purchase both that and the Live in California 1974 DVD (The California Jam) and reassess that take on Deep Purple. Really, really hot playing and singing on both discs. 1974 was the time period when David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes had replaced Gillan and Glover. It doesn't matter; in some respects (the vocals of Coverdale/Hughes together) that was an even stronger lineup. Come Hell Or High Water was actually 19 years after the Cal Jam show (1993), when Mach II reunited for awhile. Blackmore being in both versions of the band, I challenge you to look and listen (no, Ron, not you; I realize you don't have time for it!!)
But let me add: On the Come Hell Or High Water video, there are actually interviews with other band members who allude to what an ass Ritchie was. Can you name another rock video where band members actually speak poorly of a band mate right there on an officially released DVD? There is one segment where Ritchie knocks a drink off of an amp in disgust in mid-performance. All four band members talk about that other than Blackmore, who is the only one not interviewed for the DVD. Paice says, "All it takes is one little incident for his attitude to turn sour for the rest of the day."
I'll add again: I was at Cal Jam. I remember the ridiculously long delay between bands before Purple took the stage. It came out later that Purple was nearly not allowed to perform that evening, the promoters were so furious. Why? Because Ritchie, and no one else, had flat out REFUSED to take the stage until the sun went down. Petulant, self-centered ass made 200,000 people wait so his ego could be satisfied.
OK, OK, Ritchie is an ass. You'll get NO argument from me. But watch and listen to either or both of those DVD's. Just amazing, engrossing stuff. Spinal Tap? Sorry man, this is not cliché rock theatre, it's BRILLIANT writing and musicianship by all 5 band members. And for anyone who thinks Ritchie can't play the blues.............listen to the Blackmore-penned "Mistreated" on Live in California. Also, there is some classical-influenced stuff on both discs. He's an ass, but also an incredible, incredible musician. There's plenty around who fit that description. Just don't piss him off before the show!
[Edited on 8/10/2015 by robslob]
[Edited on 8/11/2015 by robslob]
YEAH! AND he can play the mandolin too! Garcia had to hire Grisman to do all his mandolin playing.
I bought a ticket to see Rainbow and he walked off stage about 10 minutes into the show. So....You're right I don't have anymore time for him.
I bought a ticket he didn't respect my time why would I give him anymore. I obviously thought at the time he was worth going to see. I learned he wasn't.....
Walks off stage = not worth my time = not professional = doesn't respect his audience = not worth my time
Just because you play the guitar doesn't mean $hit in real life.......All's I keep hearing is justifications for his bad behavior which I was witness too and paid to see...because he has guitar skills it's ok to be a prima donna who pisses everyone else off and walks off stage because the previous artist just blew the place apart
It really comes down to style. I don't like Rock music I like roots music....Not interested in shreding or loud over the top guitar......There are plenty of "guitar" hero's that do nothing for me.....I'm sure there are many players others here don't get moved by so It not that Ritchie can't play It not what moves me....along with the prima donna attitude
I'm out
Randy Hansen came out and blew the place apart finishing with a 20+ minute Voo doo child blowing up his amp until it caught fire and leaving everyone calling his name even as Rainbow came out on stage....People just kept yelling for Randy Hansen and it pissed off Blackmore and he walked off the stage after about 10 minutes show over...
Well now that certainly does sound EXACTLY like Ritchie. It is NOT my intention to get in the middle of this argument, especially between people like Goldtop and Canadian Mule whose opinions I both respect.
I have a Deep Purple DVD called Come Hell Or High Water...........Mach II (Blackmore/Gillan/Glover/Lord/Paice). If anyone thinks that's "Spinal Tap" type stuff............well, I think you ought to purchase both that and the Live in California 1974 DVD (The California Jam) and reassess that take on Deep Purple. Really, really hot playing and singing on both discs. 1974 was the time period when David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes had replaced Gillan and Glover. It doesn't matter; in some respects (the vocals of Coverdale/Hughes together) that was an even stronger lineup. Come Hell Or High Water was actually 19 years after the Cal Jam show (1993), when Mach II reunited for awhile. Blackmore being in both versions of the band, I challenge you to look and listen (no, Ron, not you; I realize you don't have time for it!!)
But let me add: On the Come Hell Or High Water video, there are actually interviews with other band members who allude to what an ass Ritchie was. Can you name another rock video where band members actually speak poorly of a band mate right there on an officially released DVD? There is one segment where Ritchie knocks a drink off of an amp in disgust in mid-performance. I believe it was Glover (may have been Paice) says, "All it takes is one little incident for his attitude to turn sour for the rest of the day."
I'll add again: I was at Cal Jam. I remember the ridiculously long delay between bands before Purple took the stage. It came out later that Purple was nearly not allowed to perform that evening, the promoters were so furious. Why? Because Ritchie, and no one else, had flat out REFUSED to take the stage until the sun went down. Petulant, self-centered ass made 200,000 people wait so his ego could be satisfied.
OK, OK, Ritchie is an ass. You'll get NO argument from me. But watch and listen to either or both of those DVD's. Just amazing, engrossing stuff. Spinal Tap? Sorry man, this is not cliché rock theatre, it's BRILLIANT writing and musicianship by all 5 band members. And for anyone who thinks Ritchie can't play the blues.............listen to the Blackmore-penned "Mistreated" on Live in California. Also, there is some classical-influenced stuff on both discs. He's an ass, but also an incredible, incredible musician. There's plenty around who fit that description. Just don't piss him off before the show!
[Edited on 8/10/2015 by robslob]
Hey rob..you mention the Come Hell Or High Water dvd, which I have also. I forgot about the part where they kinda go off on RB in the interviews.
The first song " Highway Star", he does not play or make an appearance on stage till the 3:00 min mark. It kinda funny (maybe sad) but when Ritchie comes out Gillan kinda bows/bends and puts his arm out towards Ritchie as he walks onto the stage, kinda presenting him. God only knows what Ian was saying about him under his breath
Deep Purple - Highway Star - [Come Hell Or High Water]
Some of the comments about RB are BLASPHEMY!!!! 😛 😉 😛 😉 😛 😉 😛 😉 😛
Ritchie Blackmore Acoustic Improvisation, 2007
I can understand if you do not like that style of music, but I think most people can appreciate what he brings,especially if you are a guitar player. There are alot of guitar players that are really not my cup of tea , Hendrix,Vaughn, Garcia, a few others, but I can recognize what talents they have and what they have meant to the music world and contributed. I would never run them into the ground just cause I dont like their style or that genre of music.
I have pretty much every thing RB has done with DP and Rainbow, but there is an interesting compilation called Ballads and Instrumentals which is pretty cool. If you dont have it, and are a fan of RB, you should get it. I think its some import,probably not sanctioned by Rainbow, but its a pretty cool concept to show the mellower/melodic side of that band and RB.
When I first started pl;aying guitar 30 plus years ago Weiss Heim was one of my first songs I started to play and I still play till this day.
Weiss Heim
Tearing out My Heart-Live-About the 5 min mark Ritchie really rips into the solo..yeah he plays hard rock!! 😉 So what about it?!! 😛 😉 😛 😉 😛
Difficult to Cure
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
lets get back to Ritchie's shirt ..........yes Ritchie the grateful dead did make it .....you never did ..the last stadium show any of his bands sold out was the Us festival in '73 ..that was 40 bands and everyone went there to see Marshall tucker ...Go play your Medieval Folk ..bull crap ..your bands were one step above grand funk railroad ...frkn joker
Ritchie Blackmore vs Grateful Dead thread hits 51!!!!
So, when RB goes to hell, he will probably be stuck in the middle of an endless Grateful Dead jam. There will be all this flowing music, with strange and new ideas swirling around, and the occasional jagged frustrated chop, as Blackmore rips out some self-contained tasty lick appropo of nothing. Fast forward a few million years, there's Ritchie, hunched over, exhausted, disconsolately noodling along on his mandolin, staring into the flames....
Deep Purple - Highway Star - [Come Hell Or High Water]
Thanks for posting that, I just watched it, been a long time since I viewed the DVD. That's the sequence I spoke of: Ritchie stops playing RIGHT in the middle of his solo, and tosses a drink off of an amp (or a stand) and right into a camera. Unbelievable.
I bought a ticket he didn't respect my time why would I give him anymore. I obviously thought at the time he was worth going to see. I learned he wasn't.....
Walks off stage = not worth my time = not professional = doesn't respect his audience = not worth my time
That's certainly understandable and if he'd done the same to me I'm sure I'd feel exactly the same.
Don't know nuttin' 'bout who's better, but one thing's for sure.
Deep Purple ain't the only one who can rock a Deep Purple song! 😛
lets get back to Ritchie's shirt ..........yes Ritchie the grateful dead did make it .....you never did ..the last stadium show any of his bands sold out was the Us festival in '73 ..that was 40 bands and everyone went there to see Marshall tucker ...Go play your Medieval Folk ..bull crap ..your bands were one step above grand funk railroad ...frkn joker
whoa there mister......don't be trashing my grand funk railroad. mark,don and mel rock.
lets get back to Ritchie's shirt ..........yes Ritchie the grateful dead did make it .....you never did ..the last stadium show any of his bands sold out was the Us festival in '73 ..that was 40 bands and everyone went there to see Marshall tucker ...Go play your Medieval Folk ..bull crap ..your bands were one step above grand funk railroad ...frkn joker
whoa there mister......don't be trashing my grand funk railroad. mark,don and mel rock.
Was waiting for that.
Goldtop and I were not arguing or debating Rob so squeeze in if you like. 😉
I never try and convince someone to like something that they don't. It was just funny to read someone daring him to play an acoustic when it is all that he has done for 20 years.
Music is not a competition. We all like different things. Keeps 50 year old music fresh. 😉
Goldtop and I were not arguing or debating Rob so squeeze in if you like. 😉
I never try and convince someone to like something that they don't. It was just funny to read someone daring him to play an acoustic when it is all that he has done for 20 years.
Music is not a competition. We all like different things. Keeps 50 year old music fresh. 😉
We weren't ????? 😛 Muleman you're all good in my book....I was a little over the top as usual.... 😮 
I still think the shirt is a fake.
I still think the shirt is a fake.
That is the funniest part. I didn't take that close of a look until you said something and now I agree, ha, ha, ha.
How many pages of ruffled feathers caused by that, too funny.
Good Lord Nugent was even brought into it. 😉
...Nugent is not the Good Lord
Back to the matter at hand: Ritchie's shirt is authentic, IMO. Looking closely at the shirt, it doesn't seem to be photoshopped. The lettering bends and shades over Ritchie's birdcage quite naturally, and the shadows on the letters are too well done for a hack job. Note the natural shape and shading letters on the upper right side of chest and the letter curving under his left armpit. It looks like an amateur job, maybe iron-on letters. Perhaps he had his girlfriend do it for him, but the sloppy work suggests that he did it himself, being unfamiliar with any activities other than guitar playing and drinking. I figure this would have taken at least an hour or more to pull off, what with planning, materials purchase, layout, and ironing. Which would indicate that Blackmore was really taking some time out to make this statement. Here is a man who's time is worth millions, so this is no small joke, he really wants to say this. I can only conclude that he was threatened and perhaps mystified by the incredible success of the Grateful Dead as a live concern, and was chagrined that his own light as an arena star was burning out. It must have been quite a blow to his ego and vanity to have his field usurped by a pack of scruffy hippies, none of whom had any chops whatsoever.
[Edited on 8/12/2015 by BrerRabbit]
