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Looziana_Lou
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I've compiled a Playlist collecting Dickey's country-ish stuff from the 72-75 era, aka the "Richard" Betts years. So far I've got:

ABB--
Blue Sky
Melissa
Ramblin' Man
Jessica
Pony Boy
Just Another Love Song
Louisana Lou etc
Sweet Mama

Solo---
The entire Highway Call album

Guest appearances--
Long Haired Country Boy (CDB)
Kiss the Blues Goodbye (Grinderswitch)
Hey Good Lookin' (Elvin Bishop)
Searchin for a Rainbow (MTB)

Can anyone think of anything I'm missing? As of now I'm not including live stuff, but I've got the Winterland show and Volunteer Jam '75 if I change my mind about that. Thought about including Bougainvillea, but haven't decided if it fits my "theme". I can be weird about stuff like that LOL.

Anyhow, this is a pleasant 90 minutes, slightly longer than a cd. Feel free to steal it for yourself. Smile


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 6:36 pm
Stephen
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😮 Melissa?? Smile - hehe
List looks awesome - so leave it to me to jump the tracks & mention 11/3/74 Hempstead NY radio show - that’s real countryish (bluegrass) too Cool


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 6:55 pm
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Fantastic playlist and an enthusiastic vote for Bougainvillea!!


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 6:58 pm
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😮 Melissa?? Smile - hehe

I only recently decided to add that one. I was initially avoiding Gregg songs but that guitar is too sweet to leave out. I'm thinking I should probably add Win Lose or Draw too.


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 7:03 pm
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1978 close enough?

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by blackey]

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by blackey]


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 7:13 pm
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Haven't decided if I'm adding Great Southern but if I do I'm thinking

Bougainvillea
The Way Love Goes
Shady Streets

And if I do that I may as well add Nancy too! This is gonna turn into a box set before I'm done 😛


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 7:22 pm
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Gotcha, was thinking songs Dickey wrote/sang
I dunno, Melissa, WLorD, those I think of as ballads, w/out much of a country sound to my ears - sorta feel the same way about Jessica -

dig the exclusion of Blue Sky, it’s often referred to as one of his countryish songs, I don’t hear a trace of that tho
Just joy (Jessica) - & bliss (Blue Sky) - as only this band could do it


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 7:25 pm
Looziana_Lou
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Gotcha, was thinking songs Dickey wrote/sang

That was the original plan but I figure if I've got Charlie and Elvin in there, why not Gregg?

I dunno, Melissa, WLorD, those I think of as ballads, w/out much of a country sound to my ears - sorta feel the same way about Jessica

You're not wrong, that's why I added the "-ish" qualifier. Hard for me to put into words, but there's just a certain sound I have in mind, which is why I'm reluctant to include Great Southern.

Put it this way-- His guitar sounds different on Highway Call as compared to Fillmore East. That's the sound I'm chasing.


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 7:32 pm
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And PS-- Blue Sky is Song #1. Leaving it off is just crazy talk, sir! 😛

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by Looziana_Lou]


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 7:34 pm
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I'm pretty sure he was on a Hank Jr album during this era but I don't own it. Anybody familiar with that? I'm not sure how prominent Dickey is.


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 7:49 pm
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And PS-- Blue Sky is Song #1. Leaving it off is just crazy talk, sir! 😛

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by Looziana_Lou]

Holy makarel, I’m losin it - my bad!! :wattaclown 😮 :
But yeah, BSky doesn’t have that same country-oriented sound as those other songs have - in the country vein, Good Time Feeling, from ‘78, is a Country-rock song (know you mentioned 1972-75)


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 8:12 pm
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"Out to get me"
"Good time feeling"
"Duane's tune"


 
Posted : June 27, 2020 8:15 pm
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I always loved Just Another Love Song ..............to me a vastly underrated piece of songwriting.

As Vince mentioned, Out To Get Me, also California Blues from the same first Great Southern record.

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by robslob]


 
Posted : June 28, 2020 1:59 am
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I'm pretty sure he was on a Hank Jr album during this era but I don't own it. Anybody familiar with that? I'm not sure how prominent Dickey is.

So it appears that Dickey is not on the album I had in mind. Toy C, Charlie D and Chuck L all appear on "Hank Jr & Friends" but no Dickey.


 
Posted : June 28, 2020 4:00 am
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Dickey is on the 1986 album Montana Cafe by Hank Williams, Jr. Sings background vocal on Country State of Mind.


 
Posted : June 28, 2020 8:08 am
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What about some tracks from the Kitty Wells album Dickey played on? You can’t get much more country than Kitty Wells? It also fits in with the 72-75 timeline.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 1:49 am
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What about some tracks from the Kitty Wells album Dickey played on? You can’t get much more country than Kitty Wells? It also fits in with the 72-75 timeline.

That is indeed a fine album, but I've never been able to distinguish Dickey's presence on it. His contribution was low-key, to say the least.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 4:27 am
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Don't forget the song Nancy from the Dreams boxset, doesn't get any more country than that tune. The whole album from those sessions could be added. I have my copy somewhere on the shelf.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 4:39 am
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The country album Dickey did with Nancy to be the first single never got a release. Gregg Allman bragged about it in a 1982 interview which is on YouTube saying he (Gregg) was certainly going to buy a copy. I always assumed Clive Davis and Arista Records unhappy with the sales of their two abb albums and the band's refusal to record the third album of the contract with a producer and creative input unwelcomed by the band had a part to play in the Nancy album not getting a release. Dickey was also under contract by Arista beginning with Dickey Betts and Great Southern in 1977.

I have a vinyl copy of Kitty Wells Capricorn album. It didn't sell so Capricorn didn't do a second one as far as I know. Dickey, if I remember correctly, is credited on dobro but I can spot Dickey on a solo either. But I do hear a Dobro on a couple of tracks in the rhythm mix so I assume that is Dickey. But no solo I noticed.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 4:56 am
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You should be able to find a copy of the album with Nancy on it in the Vines section, it has been in the trading circles for a long time. Even has nice cover art someone did for it.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 5:08 am
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I have a vinyl copy of Kitty Wells Capricorn album. It didn't sell so Capricorn didn't do a second one as far as I know. Dickey, if I remember correctly, is credited on dobro but I can spot Dickey on a solo either. But I do hear a Dobro on a couple of tracks in the rhythm mix so I assume that is Dickey. But no solo I noticed.

The Kitty Wells album happens to be the very first thing I ever purchased via the internet, circa 2000. Anybody remember the GEMM website? Good times.

But yeah, I don't hear Dickey anywhere on it. There's a couple of licks that kind of sound like Toy Caldwell, who's also in the credits, but those aren't real prominent either. Clearly the focus was on Kitty, as it should be.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 5:12 am
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Here are the songs on the unreleased Betts country album, it is called "Night" in the trading circles.

1981 Nashville, TN – Dickey Betts (Producer: Chips Moman)
023 MOONLIGHT MAGIC unissued
024 I DON'T THINK I SEE ME IN YOUR EYES unissued
025 WHOLE LOTTA MEMORIES unissued
026 THE GARDEN OF THE RAINBOW LIGHT unissued
027 NANCY unissued
028 BLUE RIVER unissued
029 ALABAMA ROSE unissued
030 I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT THIS TIME unissued


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 5:14 am
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Here are the songs on the unreleased Betts country album, it is called "Night" in the trading circles.

1981 Nashville, TN – Dickey Betts (Producer: Chips Moman)
023 MOONLIGHT MAGIC unissued
024 I DON'T THINK I SEE ME IN YOUR EYES unissued
025 WHOLE LOTTA MEMORIES unissued
026 THE GARDEN OF THE RAINBOW LIGHT unissued
027 NANCY unissued
028 BLUE RIVER unissued
029 ALABAMA ROSE unissued
030 I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT THIS TIME unissued

Nice, thanks. I didn't realize it was widely circulated. That will be my homework for tonight. Smile

EDIT: Well, that was fast. The entire thing is on Youtube. Can't believe I haven't encountered till now. Thanks again!

[Edited on 6/29/2020 by Looziana_Lou]


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 5:15 am
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Cool, glad you found it, I remember enjoying it when i first got it, it has been awhile since i have listened to it all although I hear Nancy often when I play the Dreams albums.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 5:20 am
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Moonlight Magic is an awesome song - Emotion in music
Ups as always to the trading community

[Edited on 6/29/2020 by Stephen]


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 5:49 am
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Here is a youtube playlist of the album NIGHT

Interesting that this version of "Nancy" is different than the one included on Dreams, which has more polished production. Makes me think these are demos, and maybe there are even more polished versions of these songs.

[Edited on 6/29/2020 by porkchopbob]


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Posted : June 29, 2020 6:04 am
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This is cool. The only track I heard was Nancy on the Dreams box set.

Anybody know exactly why it was never released? Clive Davis/Arista Records not interested with Dickey still under contract is my guess.

I remember Gregg solo at a theater in Winston Salem, North Carolina in early 1983 and he did a phone in to the rock radio station and said they parked the Allman Brothers due to changing musical tastes but mostly because the record label they went with after Capricorn kept sticking their nose in our recording sessions and the last one told is who the producer would be and he will help us update our sound so we can have some hits like the Doobie Brothers after they modified their sound with Michael McDonald. Gregg said Arista refuses to let us record our third album for them the way we want and we refuse to do it their way so Gregg said he is shut out of the studio right now until he can get out from under Arista Records.

So that was my guess as to why Dickey's solo album from 1981 never was released.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 6:36 am
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I have a vinyl copy of Kitty Wells Capricorn album. It didn't sell so Capricorn didn't do a second one as far as I know. Dickey, if I remember correctly, is credited on dobro but I can spot Dickey on a solo either. But I do hear a Dobro on a couple of tracks in the rhythm mix so I assume that is Dickey. But no solo I noticed.

The Kitty Wells album happens to be the very first thing I ever purchased via the internet, circa 2000. Anybody remember the GEMM website? Good times.

But yeah, I don't hear Dickey anywhere on it. There's a couple of licks that kind of sound like Toy Caldwell, who's also in the credits, but those aren't real prominent either. Clearly the focus was on Kitty, as it should be.

Tommy Talton is also credited for playing dobro on that album along with Dickey.

I had a quick look on discogs https://www.discogs.com/Kitty-Wells-Forever-Young/release/3899250

There's an asterix against Dickey's name and also an asterix against three tracks on side 2 so I'm guessing these are the ones Dickey played on. Could easier be wrong though.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 8:19 am
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Another obscure entry.

Both Gregg & Dickey appear on Gary Stewart's album "Cactus & A Rose."

Although he doesn't appear on it, Hank Jr. covered Dickey's "I Got A Right To Be Wrong" on the album "Rowdy."


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Posted : June 29, 2020 10:09 am
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"Hank Williams Junior-Junior" (with Dickey Betts & Kris Kristofferson) (Dickey Betts, Bonnie Bramlett) – 2:44

David Allen Coe's album I've Got Something to Say, Dickey sings and plays on that cut.


 
Posted : June 29, 2020 11:28 am
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