Opening with a half-hour Mountain Jam is clearly a STATEMENT, and the joy continues throughout.

Just curious, what percentage of the crowd do you think they lost with that opening?

The ones who thought the show was the OSMOND Brothers, maybe.

Opening with a half-hour Mountain Jam is clearly a STATEMENT, and the joy continues throughout.

Just curious, what percentage of the crowd do you think they lost with that opening?

not expecting ABB to jam....?
jus sayin get the point though.

Years ago I got some Duane era shows from some awesome individual on this site whom i've now forgotten but am forever grateful for. When I opened the package there was an extra show, 9/23/2000 Raleigh "because I just had to have it"

It's one of my favorite ABB shows I have. The Les Brers is ridiculous.

I got the see the Kansas City show of this tour and they opened with Les Brers, my dream ABB opener.

That tour was incendiary. Incendiary!

I've been rediscovering the joys of a 2000 ABB show a friend had sent me years back, June 16 at Virginia Beach. Jimmy and Derek are so great together. Opening with a half-hour Mountain Jam is clearly a STATEMENT, and the joy continues throughout. It's an audience recording, vocals a little muffled but keyboards nice and loud, and the guitar is clear. The "Hot Lanta" is dazzling.

I'd love to hear more!

I did a little digging and saw that there is a Munck Music pro-recorded show to be had from 2009 in Charlotte NC, Verizon Wireless Theater, when Warren could not make the gig, so it was Jimmy and Derek again. What's the verdict on that recording?

Jim,

I was at that show and have the audio as part of my collection. It was a great show. Thanks for bringing up that show. Mtn Jam set the stage for a superb night - great playing song after song. There always has been great chemistry between Jimmy & Derek.

If i recall accurately, the 09 charlotte show is very interesting. They jam out on dont keep me wondering and anyday which features long outro with blue sky teases throughout. Danny Louis sits in for the whole show.

Was this the show that Gregg asked Derek and Jimmy who's the Phish fan?

Yes, that Raleigh show totally smokes. I'm not a huge Herring fan, but it's one of my favorite ABB shows, too.

I sure hope that one day the PTB will release some of these shows, along w some Jack shows.

Years ago I got some Duane era shows from some awesome individual on this site whom i've now forgotten but am forever grateful for. When I opened the package there was an extra show, 9/23/2000 Raleigh "because I just had to have it"

It's one of my favorite ABB shows I have. The Les Brers is ridiculous.

I got the see the Kansas City show of this tour and they opened with Les Brers, my dream ABB opener.

That tour was incendiary. Incendiary!

We saw that tour in Syracuse.

Jimmy & Derek smoked!

The 10/3/2009 show with Jimmy and Derek smokes - I'd strongly recommend picking up the official recording if you can. It's the best sounding full show of the Jimmy/Derek combo available and also unique as Gregg plays some guitar and it has Danny Louis on keys throughout. While we all love Gregg here I presume, his organ solos could be a tad, shall we say, repetitive - and having a different keyboard player in the mix adds some new dimensions to the music.

That entire October 2009 run with WSP and the ABB co-billing is excellent as first Danny, and later Bruce Katz, were on board as a second keyboard player as Gregg's playing was limited due to an injury he'd sustained prior to the tour. As the tour progressed he's able to add some organ to the mix, but the guest piano players generally handle any solos. It gives a new dimension to the music for that final ABB lineup - and the band as a whole was firing on all cylinders in 2009 (for my money, the best year top to bottom from the final lineup). Jimmy Herring guests frequently on that tour - but the Herring full show 10/3/2009 is definitely worth having in any collection. Also of note, the next night when Warren returns, after having I think flight issues that caused him to miss the night before, 10/4/09 is blistering. Lastly, while I'm here just spouting things - 10/13 and 10/14 in Tennessee have extended Jack Pearson appearances and are well worth the purchase as well.

Re the 2000 tour, the difference between June and September of that tour is noticeable, especially those last 3 shows in September after having taken a few weeks off and Jimmy had already decided he wouldn't continue with the band after that tour. He really cut it loose for that last leg.

Also, that 6/16/2000 show was the first with Jimmy/Derek. So probably not quite as relaxed as later shows.

I loved Jimmy's rhythm playing on AWTNM and Stand Back, in particular. Whipping Post too.

I was in Charlotte in summer of 2000 and while the playing of Derek and Jimmy was real good, it struck me and other old coot fans that perhaps they shouldn't call it the Allman Brothers anymore. No Duane, no Dickey, no Berry or even Warren and Allen from the comeback lineup of 1989. A new guitar player plus another who had only been in this classic band for one year. Bass player 3 year in. It just rubbed me the wrong way. It wasn't like seeing the Guess Who in 1997 at a street scene and the only member still in the band when it was putting out albums was the drummer. LS is down to Gary Rossington from the classic lineup but still playing and drawing crowds so I admit I'm probably being picky. But I sold my ticket for the next show of the summer, I think it was Raleigh or maybe Atanta, I decided after seeing the Brothers several times a year every year they played since early 1970, I was done with the ABB. After Warren returned, I slowly began to come around again.

But it turned out Jimmy Herring was a huge ABB and Duane and Dickey fan and several times cited Dickey's solo on One Way Out on Eat A Peach as one of his all time favorite solos and tops in tone. When Jimmy was asked to do the tour, he thought Dickey was coming back. But Dickey, who apparently was drinking a lot then, sued the band and claimed Jimmy was impersonating him on songs such as Jessica, Liz Reed etc. The case went to arbitration with Dickey settling with the band and it came out in a few publications Dickey received over 1 million dollars and then apparently quit. Gregg in his book insists while in early 2000 he and Butch wanted to fire Dickey by voting him out, Dickey was NOT fired but quit. Jaimoe insisted to Gregg and Butch, the only way out of the ABB was to quit or die. So they agreed to just do the summer without Dickey then meet in the fall to talk it over and see if Dickey got help and was better behaved. When Jimmy was asked by Butch to take the gig full time, it made him real uncomfortable. He told the press that he turned it down because nobody had replaced a living original Brother and he wasn't going to be the guy to do it. Gregg agreed so he approached Warren who wouldn't be in that positioned as he was in the band from 1989 to 1997.

Gee I wish someone would impersonate me and I could settle for over a million dollars. Dickey is worth more money than Gregg and Butch combined in 2000. Over 40 million. I don't feel sorry for Dickey. He is a wealthy man and could have retired in 2000. And probably brought some of this on himself. It's all water under the bridge now. The ABB is over. Can't put the band back together without Gregg! Or can you? I hope not.

Was this the show that Gregg asked Derek and Jimmy who's the Phish fan?

No, that was after the 6/21/00 show in NJ. They went out mostly right before the drum solo, although there is some crazy stuff going on in the 7 or 8 minute time frame. Most of it occurs from about 11:30 to 15:00 though.

Gregg in his book insists while in early 2000 he and Butch wanted to fire Dickey by voting him out, Dickey was NOT fired but quit. Jaimoe insisted to Gregg and Butch, the only way out of the ABB was to quit or die. So they agreed to just do the summer without Dickey then meet in the fall to talk it over and see if Dickey got help and was better behaved. When Jimmy was asked by Butch to take the gig full time, it made him real uncomfortable. He told the press that he turned it down because nobody had replaced a living original Brother and he wasn't going to be the guy to do it. Gregg agreed so he approached Warren who wouldn't be in that positioned as he was in the band from 1989 to 1997.

Dickey 'quit' when he filed the lawsuit instead of getting the help he needed at the time. Some of the other 3 have said as much.

As far as Warren returning, remember also that Woody died that summer and Gov't Mule's future was very much up in the air. Warren did that '01 Beacon run as a featured guest because he was hesitant to re-join the band on a more permanent basis, although I think they announced he had rejoined the band shortly before the summer tour kicked off in June 2001. Or maybe it was right after the Beacon run when they announced the summer tour.

We were in Toronto that tour for the shed concert. The Mule was in the area and joined the
band on-stage. Warren, Woody and perhaps Matt. The Tour Mystic had fixed us up with some
passes and we were able to mingle with the guys afterwards.

I will also second the recommendation on the 9/23/00 show. Obviously right after woody passed away had them revved up. In a touching moment, Derek teases Mule at the beginning of Jessica. The show from Toronto that year is also quite good with Warren and woody sitting in.

The show from Toronto that year is also quite good with Warren and woody sitting in.

And Scranton a week later also with Warren/Woody and Johnny Neal and Marc Ford too.

As far as Warren returning, remember also that Woody died that summer and Gov't Mule's future was very much up in the air. Warren did that '01 Beacon run as a featured guest because he was hesitant to re-join the band on a more permanent basis..

I was actually at the Madison WI show that summer which was the night Woody died. Even though they were digging deep ("Mountain Jam", "Loan Me a Dime") I didn't love the show. It was weird seeing them without Dickey, even though I love Jimmy Herring, and I've come to appreciate this lineup more as an asterisk in the band's history. The next day Susan played day 2 of the fest and announced Woody had died the night before. It felt like the end of the Allman Brothers, another nail in the coffin, but the tragedy ended up being what brought Warren back and kept them going for another 14 years.

I was so psyched when Jimmy joined the band. I was extremely tired of the same old recycled setlist from the
ABB year after year. Jimmy and Derek were kindred spirits. The setlists finally opened up with Mt Jam,
Leave My Blues at Home, Les Brers etc.... I'm not sure why, but I saw this brief incarnation of the band 4 or 5 times the
summer of '00. More than any other year and I've been going to shows since '71. What caught me immediately at the first '00 show was the band starting with Mt Jam.
Blew my mind after hoping they would play it in the '80 or '90 and did not. Starting the set with Mt Jam was perfect.
No one left, to the contrary. As people were taking their time coming in you could hear and see people saying
'Holy Shit, Mt Jam!' Folks rushing into the venue to hear this classic and seminal song that exemplified Duane Allman's
original band. It was a link to the past as were songs like Please Call Home and Les Brers. The band teased Mt Jam
as well as Les Brers for 2 decades, but never played a full version. The '00 tour opened the door to looking back
into the ABB song archives, more guest artists, and imo a clearer sound closer to the original band.
Posting this on my phone. Sorry for any grammatical or spelling errors. Have a great weekend!

[Edited on 8/2/2019 by revonah]

They played their annual "Detroit" show at Pine Knob in July that year and they blew me away. High Falls and Loan Me a Dime were songs I had never seen/heard live. I thought they made a great combo. Jimmy has said he felt awkward given the circumstances. I was among many who were skeptical about it but I thought Jimmy fit in great. And remember Derek only had one year under his belt with them. I think they pulled it off great.

Porkchopbob. That summer 2000 band hit me the wrong way too. It took me a couple of shows in 1973 to understand that this is the ABB minus Duane and Berry. They were dead so it was the only way to keep the band going.

But in 2000 the band was 31 years old and standing ( playing ) on the front line is a bass player only in the band 3 years, Derek just one year and Jimmy brand new. I told my friends I would never see them again unless Dickey does indeed come back. They said on the radio there had been some personal problems and they were doing the summer shows without Dickey as they were already booked and due to creative difficulties and personal problems Dickey wouldn't be there. I think it was Butch on the radio station on the phone. I thought it meant Dickey was PO'd and was refusing to play. I saw one of the spring shows and didnt notice any friction on stage but they didnt have much to say between songs but they are that way sometimes. The shows I saw with the original band, Gregg and Dickey didn't say much anyway. Duane and Berry did most of the banter between songs.

But I just didn't think it was the Allman Brothers with that 2000 lineup so I wasn't going to see them again unless Dickey got straightened out. I've never felt right seeing old bands with half to 2/3rds of the lineup new guys. I pass on Marshall Tucker and Skynyrd because of that. I guess Tucker is still touring.

Well Gregg said in an interview just after Warren came back that he understood Jimmy not wanting to replace an original member still living and Gregg said if Warren hadn't returned who wouldn't be replacing anyone but returning after 3 years away, Gregg was just going completely into his solo band.

So if Gregg meant that, I assume if Warren had said no the band would have folded at least for awhile.

Actually I think Warren chose to play 2001 to see if that was what he wanted before saying yes. I don't know why Gregg didn't say he would ask Jack Pearson if Warren said no. Jack would be returning rather than replacing.

Because tinnitus.

I don't know why Gregg didn't say he would ask Jack Pearson if Warren said no. Jack would be returning rather than replacing.

Opening with a half-hour Mountain Jam is clearly a STATEMENT, and the joy continues throughout.

Just curious, what percentage of the crowd do you think they lost with that opening?

It is the Allman Brothers, what do you expect??

JimSheridan,

The '09 Charlotte show is very interesting and is worth getting. It just so happened that was the double billed tour with Widespread Panic, so Jimmy was already there. There are some neat moments between Jimmy and Derek and also Oteil (longtime ARU bandmate), and some funny flubs along the way. I always enjoy when one of the "family subs" does a show to hear the different takes on songs and communication with the band's playing. For instance there are some shows from the mid-2000s where Warren was unavailable and Jack P. subbed in Chicago and Michigan I believe.

8/4/00 Jones Beach NY is a great show too - I was there with our youngest son,Tyler -his first ABB show. A fabulous memory.....

Got inspired by this thread and pulled out some 2000 shows to revisit this lineup.

The World Theater Tinley Park (8/26/00) show the day Woody passed away is particularly emotional and intense. Also, at the conclusion, rather than the "Little Martha" tribute to Duane. The PA plays Mule's "Lay Your Burden Down."

Also enjoying video from a couple different shows during this summer run. Nice to see/hear them play High Falls, Franklin's Tower and Mountain Jam among others.

JimSheridan,

For instance there are some shows from the mid-2000s where Warren was unavailable and Jack P. subbed in Chicago and Michigan I believe.

That was 2005. There were more than just the two you mentioned. Several I believe. I went to the Chicago show but unfortunately couldn't get back home to catch the Pine Knob show (Michigan). Chicago was really, really good. I think the "newest" song they played was from Brothers & Sisters. Ron Holloway was on that leg of the tour as well. He added a nice twist to the shows. The band never said why Warren was missing. They still pulled it off.

JimSheridan,

For instance there are some shows from the mid-2000s where Warren was unavailable and Jack P. subbed in Chicago and Michigan I believe.

That was 2005. There were more than just the two you mentioned. Several I believe. I went to the Chicago show but unfortunately couldn't get back home to catch the Pine Knob show (Michigan). Chicago was really, really good. I think the "newest" song they played was from Brothers & Sisters. Ron Holloway was on that leg of the tour as well. He added a nice twist to the shows. The band never said why Warren was missing. They still pulled it off.

The Band was smoking on the 2005 tour. They introduced Egypt to me at Spac along with Layla as the encore. I remember thinking soon they will be releasing a new studio album, which never happened.

not a great show by any means, but an interesting one to listen to is Milwaukee on 6/30/2000.
That night Gregg was having keyboard problems and they (roadies) had to exchanged his B-3's on the fly.
Of course, Jimmy and Derek had to figure out a jam to fill while this was going on.

Pulled out my old 2 tape copy of 6/20/00 Hershey, PA, which I was at. Pretty fantastic show; need a digital upgrade. Maybe the best Stand Back I ever saw.