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Posted by: @bill_graham

Fender vs Gibson guitars

https://guitarspace.org/electric-guitars/fender-vs-gibson/

I was gonna say that Fender guitars sit to pee ... but I own three of 'em (+ 1 G&L).  😉 

 

 
Posted : November 26, 2022 7:43 am
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@rusty I remember reading Red Dog's account of it. The Dog said he put the smashed Les Paul in the dumpster. Maybe someone else got it out of the dumpster:) 

Probably just broke the neck off and maybe just the headstock. 

I understand because of the angle shape of a Les Paul headstock, they can get broken off if you aren't careful. 

I have an SG and I don't throw my guitar around. Of course it never goes out of tune and maybe I've never got it in tune. I just play at home with records for my own amusement. 

I saw Dickey toward the end suddenly quit playing his solos at a 1975 Win, Lose or Draw show and when the left the stage I watched Dickey and he kicked a trash can that went sailing toward the rear of the stage. Don't know what he was mad about. 

At the beginning of the show he apparently noticed fire crackers going off during Charlie Daniels opening set so before the first song of the ABB set counted off, Dickey went to the mic and said " You guys stop that G** Damn bombing out there!! I mean it!!" 

That continued some so maybe that got him mad. That was the first Win, Loose or Draw tour show I saw and two things stood out to me. Dickey never played slide even on Statesboro Blues and he didn't play that beautiful sunburst Les Paul with zebra pickups he had been playing since 1972. I wasn't far back to the sound board so I eventually made my way back there and asked one of the guys why Dickey was playing a Goldtop and not the pretty sunburst with zebra pickups and was told the pretty guitar went out of tune too much. 

I assume Dickey didn't smash that one:) 

The Goldtop that night I later discovered was Goldie. The 1957 Goldtop Dickey bought at a Manhattan pawn shop in 1974. Dickey loved that one. He played it for many years. 

 
Posted : November 26, 2022 8:38 am
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@rusty A girls guitar? Smile

Some years ago I was reading that a decent number of guitarists switch back and forth between a Strat or SG or Les Paul during their sets depending on the song but you can buy a certain model Paul Reed Smith and go down the middle and stop changing guitars. Just play the same PRS all night. 

The Fender today puts a wide array of pickups in Stratocastes and Teles. Even Humbuckers. But still don't sound exactly like a Gibson. 

Check out Jimmy Herring on a Fender Stratocaster he ordered with TWO HUMBUCKERS. 

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Posted : November 26, 2022 8:49 am
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@robertdee You know I love Fenders!  Gibsons have that big, bold ... MACHO sound that so many players love.  In the descriptions in the article posted above, the writer points out that Fenders are fine for music that doesn't require a lot of overdrive or crunch.  I guess somebody forgot to tell Jimi. Stevie Ray and David Gilmore!  If you run a guitar through a bunch of stomp boxes and into a Marshall stack - the guitar itself becomes kinda moot!  😉

 
Posted : November 26, 2022 9:39 am
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@robertdee My G&L F-100 (first guitar made by G&L) features "split-able humbucking pickups" - enabling the player to go between that fat humbucker sound and the thinner, single-coil sound.  The PRS models - as well as some of the recent Gibsons also have this feature.  I don't know which manufacturer came up with this, but it does create a "Swiss Army Knife" capability.

 
Posted : November 26, 2022 9:58 am
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@robertdee My G&L F-100 (first guitar made by G&L) features "split-able humbucking pickups" - enabling the player to go between that fat humbucker sound and the thinner, single-coil sound.  The PRS models - as well as some of the recent Gibsons also have this feature.  I don't know which manufacturer came up with this, but it does create a "Swiss Army Knife" capability.

As far as I know Jimmy Page was one of the first to split the coils on his humbuckers using push pull volume/ tone knobs. He also had a push button switch hidden under the pick guard of his #2 Les Paul. He could split the coils as well as put the pickups out of phase like Peter Green's "Greeny" Les Paul

https://www.groundguitar.com/jimmy-page-gear/jimmy-pages-1959-gibson-les-paul-standard-number-two/

Wiring explanation for those interested. I believe you need 4 wire humbuckers to implement coil splitting so would have to replace the stock pickups and wiring harness.

https://www.premierguitar.com/diy/mod-garage/jimmy-page-wiring

 

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Posted : November 26, 2022 10:51 am
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New Gibson Theodore model played by Joe Bonamassa

https://www.musicradar.com/news/gibson-theodore-joe-bonamassa

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Posted : November 26, 2022 11:01 am
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1958 Gibson Explorer, didn't leave the factory until 1963

https://www.guitarplayer.com/gear/the-1963-gibson-explorer-from-the-50s

 
Posted : November 26, 2022 4:14 pm
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Joe Bonamassa Nerdsville video discussing the vintage gear market

 
Posted : November 27, 2022 2:25 am
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@rusty G and L guitars was begun by (G)eorge Fullerton and (L)eo Fender after they cashed in and sold Fender according to what I just read. Many of their instruments have bodies very similar to Fender guitars but in order to pass guitar copying laws the headstocks are different. 

Jack Pearson played a G and L strat type guitar in the Allman Brothers in the late 90's. 

From all I've read, G and L guitars are fine instruments. 

Jack's G & L will sustain a note for 3 minutes. Look and see:) 

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Posted : November 27, 2022 9:14 am
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@robertdee G&L guitars are actually built in the original Fender factory in Fullerton  using the same lathes, saws and other tools that turned out the original Strat's and Tele's.  I haven't played any other than my own, but they're built like Soviet Tanks!  Strong, sturdy - a little on the heavy side.  There are a LOT of them in Nashville!  Next time you see a C&W player playing a Telecaster - check out that headstock.  Mine has what is very similar to an original Strat headstock (the curves are barely noticeably rounded).  Yeah, I'm guessing that Fender must've scoffed at them over this design as the newer models have that "reverse V ... protrusion" on them.  I don't understand why Fender came down on G&L over this as all of those import models have a much more exact copy of the headstock.  They are, indeed fantastic instruments.

 
Posted : November 27, 2022 9:25 am
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@rusty Back when the guitar lawsuits were going on, if I remember correctly, the court ruled the body can't be exclusive to a specific brand but the headstock shape and design must be different from other brands. I think Gibson is suing Dean over their headstock right now. 

I use to wonder how the Charvel headstock on the superstrat model can look exactly like Fenders.

I just googled Charvel and they are owned by Fender. I thought Grover Jackson owned it. 

Look at this headstock. 

 
Posted : November 27, 2022 9:52 am
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@robertdee I believe that Fender did to many guitar manufacturers what Miller and Budweiser did to the smaller breweries - they just bought them up!  I think Fender now owns Guild, Gretsch and a few of the others that you mention.  There are a few "Telecasters" that have what looks like Gretsch pick-ups.  I call these, "Gretsch-a-casters"!  😉

 
Posted : November 27, 2022 9:57 am
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@rusty Les Paul sustain and FAT tone! Of course the one time I saw Gary he had a boat load of BIG Marshall's stacked up behind him.  Too loud for me. 

 
Posted : November 27, 2022 10:03 am
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Reading an interview with Catfish Ingram Thanksgiving day. Had not heard of him.

Catfish spent years studying B. B. King the Albert and Freddie and Clapton's blues solos and SRV and he feels he has the touch for the blues down and his trying to show he (Catfish) is THE blues master playing today. 

He seems to be good. I like his bends and how he holds some of his notes. 

 

With a band! 

 

Well the two above aren't professionally recorded. I'm told this one is which is fair to point out. 

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Posted : November 28, 2022 11:38 am
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Nice article on Peter Green's "Greeny" Les Paul.

https://43guitarsandcounting.com/2020/11/21/adventures-of-a-much-travelled-burst/

 
Posted : November 28, 2022 11:59 pm
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For what it's worth Wolfgang Van Halen stated this guitarist is his favorite and most impressive of the players playing today. I figured he would say Neil Young but it's this young man. 

 
Posted : November 29, 2022 7:29 pm
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@bill_graham I'm a big fan of Peter Green. Here is how he looked and sounded on his live shows toward his final days. 

 

And here is Peter playing his famous Les Paul which is now with Metallica. 

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Posted : November 29, 2022 7:34 pm
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Gibson Barney Kessel  Custom vintage 1968 

https://www.premierguitar.com/pro-advice/vintage-vault/1968-gibson-barney-kessel-custom

 
Posted : December 2, 2022 11:39 pm
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Gibson P90 pickups

https://www.guitarworld.com/features/p-90-pickups-history

 
Posted : December 3, 2022 1:40 am
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1870's Martin acoustic

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/martin-backroom-acoustic-sold-to-ex-fender-ceo

 
Posted : December 3, 2022 2:04 am
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At first I thought this was Dickey in 1972 or 3. He played a beautiful sunburst Les Paul with zebra pickups just before he found his 1957 Goldtop ( Goldie) in 1974. After I stopped looking at the guitar I realized is someone else. 

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/zcKU9FN6BdQ?feature=share

 
Posted : December 4, 2022 11:17 am
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History of Ibanez guitars

https://guitar.com/features/history-of-ibanez/

 
Posted : December 5, 2022 8:46 pm
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John McVie bass auctioned for $100k

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/john-mcvies-rumours-bass-auctioned

 
Posted : December 5, 2022 8:55 pm
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@bill_graham "...The iconic wooden balls worn by Mick Fleetwood on the cover of their 1977 album Rumours were the top-selling item, bringing an astounding $128,000. ..."

- "I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who had wooden balls."

- Hellen Keller ... paraphrased

 
Posted : December 6, 2022 6:06 am
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Harley Benton Keith Richards Macawber Telecaster tribute. Looks nice for the price

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/harley-benton-te-53kr-bl-keith-richards-inspired

 

 
Posted : December 8, 2022 12:04 am
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The Fuzz Face!!  You need a Fuzz Face to sound like a concert violinist. 

https://youtube.com/shorts/_OYc9DDFaWc?feature=share

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Posted : December 10, 2022 4:01 pm
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I'm watching PBS and the latest line up of Little Feat is playing at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. 

Noticed Gregg's last lead player Scott Sharrard is a member of Little Feat. Seems to be playing Lowell George's spot in the band judging from the songs he sings and is playing a ton of slide on a yellow Stratocaster like George played. I know Scott used Duane Allman's Goldtop Les Paul on his last solo album so maybe this is one of Lowell's guitars. 

This is a clip from 2019 so Scott has been with the Little Feat band a few years. Scott's a good slide player. 

 
Posted : December 10, 2022 9:24 pm
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100 alternate guitar tunings

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/100-guitar-tunings

 
Posted : December 11, 2022 12:21 pm
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I am am a big fan of exDokken guitarist George Lynch so found this amp mod interesting. Adds a gain stage to a Marshall amp. Now all I need is to get a Marshall head to try it!

https://www.premierguitar.com/legendary-tones-mr-scary-mod

 
Posted : December 11, 2022 12:27 pm
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