Opinions are like as_holes, everyone has one. I love both bands and although I admit I wish DTB were still together on a part time basis I do also love TTB so it doesn't hurt me as much as it would someone who don't like TTB. IMO DTB had run it's course and the last DTB record was more like a TTB record than any of the previous DTB records with more structured songs. They had maxed out fanbase wise due to the DTB being an acquired taste that not everybody was going to like. They couldn't even sell out a single show at the Beacon and TTB can probably sell out 5 or 6. Maybe Derek just wanted to expand and do something else allowing him to spread his magic to a larger audience as well as spending more time with his family at a time when that was needed. Either way he is still out there producing great music. Sucks for those who don't like TTB but that is life. Hopefully DTB reunite in the future on a part time basis?? If not then TTB will just have to do and for me if that is what they decide to do then I will just enjoy TTB.

Always surprised me that the DTB defenders never make more of the fact that Yonrico, Todd and the Count were not even considered as part of the TTB. Seems like Derek felt like moving in a new direction (what companies say when they fire you) and traded for some new players. Not just some coincidence that different players were there.

Derek not the type to sling crap but I wouldn't hold my breathe on that reunion.

Mourn as long as you like but Derek moved on.

Nobody hates you. You're just an instigator, and people generally tend to like that, a lot. What is the point of posting something that has been discussed to the point of making everyone want to puke? Also, longer solos make a band better? The collective improve is what made the DTB so great. (personally, I think both bands are/were great...they're just different)

Also, when anyone on this site can do a single thing in their lives as good as Derek Trucks can play the guitar.......at that point, and at ONLY that point will this nonsense be taken seriously.

[Edited on 12/22/2015 by jparadise]You edited twice without changing "improve" to "improv" but that is ok. I do think that Yonrico is a better drummer than either of the TTB drummers and Smallie is second only to Oteil in terms of the finest bass to play with Derek in his bands.

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Always surprised me that the DTB defenders never make more of the fact that Yonrico, Todd and the Count were not even considered as part of the TTB. Seems like Derek felt like moving in a new direction (what companies say when they fire you) and traded for some new players. Not just some coincidence that different players were there.

Derek not the type to sling crap but I wouldn't hold my breathe on that reunion.

Mourn as long as you like but Derek moved on.

There is nothing to defend but the DTB was a band that took chances. The TTB? Not so much.

Always surprised me that the DTB defenders never make more of the fact that Yonrico, Todd and the Count were not even considered as part of the TTB. Seems like Derek felt like moving in a new direction (what companies say when they fire you) and traded for some new players. Not just some coincidence that different players were there.

Derek not the type to sling crap but I wouldn't hold my breathe on that reunion.

Mourn as long as you like but Derek moved on.

There is nothing to defend but the DTB was a band that took chances. The TTB? Not so much.

And yet years later, here we are. You feel the need to tell us what you don't like and that we are wrong to enjoy it. Simple solution - don't buy TTB, don't go to shows and never listen again. No need to tell us about it. We all dislike some band that you like but it's OK with us. Enjoy.

Bring back Dickey?

It ain't Pink Floyd without Roger?

I like Derek with TTB better than with DTB or even the ABB for that matter because he takes LESS chances. I love Derek but a lot of the time he would (and still can) completely loose track of melody. From what I have heard, Derek's solos have been much more consistent in terms of melody then with the ABB or DTB. Some of the solos he has done or hands down more melodic than anything I have heard him do with the ABB or DTB (His solo on the 9/26/15 Midnight In Harlem for example.)

He may have soloed more with other bands but he quality with TTB, from what I have heard, is better with TTB. Less is more for me.

Van Halen or Van Hagar?

Judas Priest or Iron Maiden?

Judas Priest or Iron Maiden?

Maiden of course! Up The Irons!

Priest can open the show though.

Reminds me of a Priest show where Rob came out on his bike from under the drum platform at the start of the show and smacked his head off something and wiped out.

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I like Derek with TTB better than with DTB or even the ABB for that matter because he takes LESS chances. I love Derek but a lot of the time he would (and still can) completely loose track of melody. From what I have heard, Derek's solos have been much more consistent in terms of melody then with the ABB or DTB. Some of the solos he has done or hands down more melodic than anything I have heard him do with the ABB or DTB (His solo on the 9/26/15 Midnight In Harlem for example.)

He may have soloed more with other bands but he quality with TTB, from what I have heard, is better with TTB. Less is more for me.

+1

If there was any band I would want emulate as far as approach it would be TTB....

Derek's sound with the ABB was not as soulful as his sound is with the TTB where he can use smaller amps and not play as loud on stage....

The DTB ran it's course there wasn't anywhere for them to grow an audience....their style is only attractive to a small cult following. The TTB has and will reach more people....The song writing is better as is the arrangements....

I loved the DTB for what they were but Derek also knows he'll touch more people with the TTB....it's about getting your message out there...the TTB uses the guitar as part of the whole the DTB used the guitar as a focal point and the song was secondary to the improvisation.....99% of the people out there don't get that....they want songs....TTB provides songs and that will bring a bigger audience in the long run

I like Derek with TTB better than with DTB or even the ABB for that matter because he takes LESS chances. I love Derek but a lot of the time he would (and still can) completely loose track of melody. From what I have heard, Derek's solos have been much more consistent in terms of melody then with the ABB or DTB. Some of the solos he has done or hands down more melodic than anything I have heard him do with the ABB or DTB (His solo on the 9/26/15 Midnight In Harlem for example.)

He may have soloed more with other bands but he quality with TTB, from what I have heard, is better with TTB. Less is more for me.

+1

If there was any band I would want emulate as far as approach it would be TTB....

Derek's sound with the ABB was not as soulful as his sound is with the TTB where he can use smaller amps and not play as loud on stage....

The DTB ran it's course there wasn't anywhere for them to grow an audience....their style is only attractive to a small cult following. The TTB has and will reach more people....The song writing is better as is the arrangements....

I loved the DTB for what they were but Derek also knows he'll touch more people with the TTB....it's about getting your message out there...the TTB uses the guitar as part of the whole the DTB used the guitar as a focal point and the song was secondary to the improvisation.....99% of the people out there don't get that....they want songs....TTB provides songs and that will bring a bigger audience in the long run

+ another 1

The above are two good posts from musicians' perspectives.

Playing with Clapton created the less is more attitude for Derek. There is a time to play out and if you do it on every song then it loses its' impact. Plus you can say plenty in a shorter solo and it is not like Derek doesn't give it on every song.

Also what has greatly improved since his time with Clapton is his rhythm playing and soloing without a slide. Has really added to his ability.

This looks like math class.

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Playing with Clapton created the less is more attitude for Derek.

For me, that attitude plays out perfectly for Clapton in the Marsalis show they released. Those aren't my favorite types of songs to listen to, but for my money, Clapton's restrained but wonderful playing on that show (not to mention his tone), was superb.

Interesting, several times, some of his phrases reminded me very much his Cream playing.

I'm constantly drawn back to listening to that Clapton / Marsalis record for no reason other than Clapton's relatively short, but so well-structured solos.

Anybody with skill (well not anybody, but you get my point) can play for 5-10 minutes at a time and hit some notes or runs that make people cheer. IMHO, it shows a lot more to be able to do the same thing in a minute -- there's no room for error, everything you hit must be spot on.

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Judas Priest or Iron Maiden?

Maiden of course! Up The Irons!

Priest can open the show though.

Reminds me of a Priest show where Rob came out on his bike from under the drum platform at the start of the show and smacked his head off something and wiped out.

[Edited on 12/22/2015 by CanadianMule]

I think I remember Rob telling a story one time were he laid his bike down on stage.

Maiden!
This reminds of a video of Paul Di'anno singing Charlotte the Harlot.
I am not sure if this is funny or sad. The subtitles are pretty humerous though.

I liked the early Maiden stuff. They almost had a punk/street type feel to the music with urgency.

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saw them 3 years back..don't know,but there's something about seeing a bunch of aging rockers in spandex shorts that just doesn't sit right with me,just couldn't get past that...but I know they have lots of fans.If I ever see Derek come out wearing spandex that'll prob be it for him too...but I doubt that'll ever happen,I hope

Iron Maiden was wearing spandex 3 years ago?

Sigh 🙁

Derek Trucks Band was cool. Songlines>Already Free>Roadsongs was an inspired run for the band. I saw them live a couple of times and really enjoyed them. Tedeschi Trucks Band is cool, too. I like them a lot. They're probably my favorite band right now. I guess I just don't understand the need to compare art. If you like one better than the other, good for you. But I don't understand this need people have to trash Tedeschi Trucks Band simply because they liked Derek Trucks Band better and wish he was still with that band. I guess I listened to too much Bob Dylan and Neil Young growing up to think that an artist owes me something or is required to play music a certain way just for my enjoyment. You don't have to follow an artist on their personal journey. I love Warren Haynes but have never really gotten into Gov't Mule. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate it. It's just not for me in the same way his solo work or his ABB work or his Phil Lesh work grab me and pull me in. I guess I need to write a rant about how much I hate Gov't Mule and wish he would only play with his solo outfits. As if Warren Haynes owes me that or will make his decisions based on what I think he should do.

yeh but,people who love & care about music will always compare.

I guess I just don't understand the need to compare art.

Even if it is the same artist? Music, painting, poetry, photography it all evolves. The creators travel through periods where things are expressed differently, where the appreciator may have a different interpretation about one work versus the other. Me? I don't particularly care for Derek's current band and I have seen both the TTB & SSR numerous times. I can only hope that this project runs its course and Derek is happy, whatever he does.

Taste is subjective, so this thread is like arguing if chocolate ice cream is better than strawberry.

I prefer the TTB because i love the blend of flavors. I love the vibe. I think their shows are perfectly paced.

I will bring food back in to the discussion. I loved the DTB but at times parts of it felt excessive. I am an overeater and will eat pizza to the point where i realize i shouldnt have had the last two slices, although they were awesome. Burp. Waddle home.

The TTB shows are like ordering the tasting menu at a 5 star restaurant, where you get numerous smaller but delicious portions, each with really different savory flavors, not leaving you overstuffed but instead perfectly satisfied, wishing to go back the next day.

Agreed. Derek is like Strawberry ice cream and Susan is a bowl of hot tomato soup. I enjoy both, just not at the same time.

You have 3 options:

1. Learn to appreciate what these remarkable musicians do.
2. Dwell on their past triumphs.
3. Post irrelevancies.

I've enjoyed seeing both bands. I currently enjoy living in the present.