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"There’s nothing at all wrong with forgive and forget" Gregg Allman

Except for the reasons experts give Smile I however, agree......


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 5:08 am
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I agree with someone up the line here, just put out a picture of the two of them sitting in a room, guitars in hand, smiling and laughing - that would be cool.


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 5:11 am
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"You sound like a real fan of the ABB..... NOT! lol"

Big fan of extremely talented musicians exploring new ideas and improvisation. I apologize but would not be excited to hear "Decade of Hits" live. If they have some new songs, new arrangements, and change things up night to night, I would be extremely excited.


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 7:55 am
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I think it would be cool if Dickey still has his chops and can keep up with Gregg's band. His chops had been eroding for years and now he hasn't toured in a while. I am thinking he is probably permanently retired at this point.


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 10:43 am
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Danb, I vote your post the funniest HTW post ever Smile

Im ecstatic ! was it Blooby who said he'd be happy to see them sitting together let alone performing? anyway, something like that...me too Smile


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 11:38 am
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I think Gregg just misses Dickey. Yes they had their ups and downs but they were also close and went though a lot of drama together from early 1969 forward. Occasionally since 2000 Gregg seemed to regret the way things went down by saying things such as "there were times when I was messing up enough that I should have been fired". Or "I was so bad off from drugs and alcohol for several years that all I could do was mumble the words. I'm surprised I didn't get fired". I'm sure Gregg felt odd when they opened the Big House museum and Dickey was left out and not there.

I think that is all there is to it. Gregg just misses Dickey and would love to see him again and put their divorce behind them and be friends again and invite Dickey to come jam with he and his band when he wants to.

Remember when Gregg needed to get away from Dickey, he was just going to quit. He had his resignation ready to be turned in and told his then wife he was leaving because of Dickey and his temper, drinking and drug problem. But Butch Trucks was also leaving the band because of Dickey and his wife found out from Gregg's wife that Gregg was leaving too so he called Gregg and discussed getting rid of Dickey instead and if you remember the interviews, Gregg said "Let me sleep on it".

Now it's been 15 years and now when he thinks of Dickey, he, like most people do when time passes on old relationships, thinks about the good times and the original band and how much Dickey and his brother impressed with their twin guitar thing and how close Dickey was with Duane musically. Gregg misses Duane, Berry and Dickey and Dickey is still alive so he just wants to see him again. That is all.


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 11:50 am
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I think it is cool that Gregg thinks Dickey still has the chops and wants to play with him. That is respectful and brotherly and from an impeccable musician, a compliment.


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 11:50 am
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Gregg, Dickey, Duane Trucks, Jaimoe, Pedro Arevalo and Scott Sharrard is what I've heard. They're going to start jamming when Duane finishes with Panic and they'll play mostly fest dates next year.


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 12:44 pm
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I just realized the link is from our local paper Smile ( Thanks WT!)

it's probably a good thing I didn't see Dickey's pix on the front page with a quote from the article while I was at the supermarket scanning the local papers. Id have probably screamed loud enough to give some old boy a heart attack Smile


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 3:27 pm
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The photo on Dickey's home page for years has been of he and Gregg onstage back in the day
-- it's just nice to know that Dickey took Gregg's criticisms of him in his book, for what they were -- a lot of baloney/petty jealousy not to be taken seriously

[Edited on 8/8/2015 by Stephen]


 
Posted : August 7, 2015 5:27 pm
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They're forever linked.


 
Posted : August 8, 2015 2:49 am
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I think it would be cool if Dickey still has his chops and can keep up with Gregg's band. His chops had been eroding for years and now he hasn't toured in a while. I am thinking he is probably permanently retired at this point.

Dickey cannot join Gregg's band. Gregg has always had his side band even when ABB was around. His Gregg Allman band was a place he could express himself in ways that he could not with ABB. That's why he loves keeping that. Even if ABB reunited/reformed, he would still keep his own band for creative artistic expression.

As for Dickey, he has his own band, but they did not tour enough to be a sustainable band. Even when ABB was still touring and he was with his own band (after the fax incident), he did not establish a tour schedule that would support the band members as their only source of income. He could have (and still could) set up regional touring to help the band stay on track. That is part of the problem with people taking his band seriously.

I think it is possible for there to be some new band with some of the old ABB people in it, and some new people. During different estrangements of ABB as a band, all the band members played with other people, that's what musicians do. Since that happened in the past, I think it is reasonable to think that could happen again.

[Edited on 8/8/2015 by gina]


 
Posted : August 8, 2015 11:38 am
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Perry, you're clueless if you have no idea why the recent warm words would have people excited, and desperate for some sad sense of internet superiority if you want to debate each person who hopes that former band mates will reunite.

To your point, though, Gregg does seem far too pleased with his solo band to instantly throw it away.


 
Posted : August 8, 2015 9:40 pm
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I just hope DB does what is goid for DB.

He does not have a damn thing to prove.


 
Posted : August 9, 2015 8:24 am
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Perry, you're clueless if you have no idea why the recent warm words would have people excited, and desperate for some sad sense of internet superiority if you want to debate each person who hopes that former band mates will reunite.

To your point, though, Gregg does seem far too pleased with his solo band to instantly throw it away.

It's not about Gregg potentially throwing away what he has with his solo band. The point is he can do things with his solo band that he could not do with ABB or even with Dickey in the band. Laid Back is one of his best artistic creations, none of that would ever have made it on the ABB stage, even though that version of Midnight Rider is probably the best he's ever done. He's got music in him, different styles that are not ABB type of songs, Dickey has his own stuff too by virtue of his leanings. Dickey was right at home with Vassar Clements, Gregg would not have been. Gregg would not have had a place on Pattern Disruptive or even Highway Call. They each have their own stuff and need outlets for that.

BUT, if they come together for a different band that does blues music such as ABB did, that is what people could hope for. Personally though, I think Gregg's biggest evolution will come when he leaves blues music and starts music not as intense as gospel music, but going in that direction. He's had enough sh***ty times. He's in a thankful phase now and that is his best and brightest future.


 
Posted : August 9, 2015 12:06 pm
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like fretsman said They are forever linked...

just like parents are linked in the union of their child or children..its the same thing. the relaionship has changed regardless of their life experineces together ..time for them is over it ran its course. There will be no other band for them to create , that happened already and that dream was more from Duane ..they all wanted it but Duane pursured that dream exclusively .

we as the fans have had the pleasure of their music , compostions etc. it all has its time, even us.

They are all at a place in life to just enjoy and not be so driven , youth has the drive.. its time to reep the rewards and that is what they should do . Play for the fans on a very loose schedule ..if DB and GA play together again what a thrill for the fans. But it will never go beyond that , its not realistic .
They each have the bands that they want and play the music they want.. sounds good enough for me.

I wish them both joy and peace. They have earned it.

enjoy the Blue Sky days, their family and all that interests them. They certainly have my Thanks.


 
Posted : August 10, 2015 3:41 am
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I think it would be cool if Dickey still has his chops and can keep up with Gregg's band. His chops had been eroding for years and now he hasn't toured in a while. I am thinking he is probably permanently retired at this point.

Dickey cannot join Gregg's band. Gregg has always had his side band even when ABB was around. His Gregg Allman band was a place he could express himself in ways that he could not with ABB. That's why he loves keeping that. Even if ABB reunited/reformed, he would still keep his own band for creative artistic expression.

As for Dickey, he has his own band, but they did not tour enough to be a sustainable band. Even when ABB was still touring and he was with his own band (after the fax incident), he did not establish a tour schedule that would support the band members as their only source of income. He could have (and still could) set up regional touring to help the band stay on track. That is part of the problem with people taking his band seriously.

I think it is possible for there to be some new band with some of the old ABB people in it, and some new people. During different estrangements of ABB as a band, all the band members played with other people, that's what musicians do. Since that happened in the past, I think it is reasonable to think that could happen again.

[Edited on 8/8/2015 by gina]

I wasn't talking about Dickey joining Greeg's band permanently. I was simply talking about Dickey sitting in with Gregg's band at a show the way he sat in with Tedeschi Trucks band.


 
Posted : August 10, 2015 4:24 am
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Farm Aid 30 might be a nice venue...

just glad they can be friendly again... they were running buddies for so long


 
Posted : August 10, 2015 4:25 am
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...the way he sat in with Tedeschi Trucks band.

This is actually why I hope it never happens. For me, that performance was hard to listen to. I just want to remember Dickey a certain way.

I don't have the opportunity to hear Dickey play on a day to day basis. But he (like anybody else) is like an athlete in the sense that he gets better by playing more often. More rep's! When I saw him at Chastain (Atlanta) with Wet Wilie and the Outlaws, I walked away less than impressed. When he played Macon almost a year later, he was in much better form. That was a great show! I don't know what his health or frame of mind is, but I feel that if he spent some time woodshedding, he could get his chops in top form.

Again, the news that he and Gregg seem to be reconciling their friendship (brotherhood!) is good enough news for me. Any new music or performance (if any at all) would just be gravy!


 
Posted : August 10, 2015 5:39 am
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Thoughts for those so aghast the thought of a Gregg and Dickey get together, to as GA says, jam......

It was never said by GA it would be for anyone else's hearing, so you may be spared the agony.

You can choose to not listen if offered the choice.

You can let others perceive and rate their own enjoyment or not, as perception and preference come into play.

Yes the Willie Mays argument is always there, but who is a nobody to tell a great what to enjoy?

If you are right, Gregg is deluded for thinking such an idiotic thought, hey, give GA a call, maybe he will take it. I'm sure he needs an advisor.

While these are my thoughts on this, I can't comprehend why I would take a stance that everyone who doesn't think like me is wrong. Maybe I am, so what. This is a net forum full of blah blah.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeee I hope some take this very, very, very seriously!


 
Posted : August 10, 2015 6:35 am
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I would love to hear them play together.
Any form would appeal to me


 
Posted : August 10, 2015 6:54 am
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Peachfest would be a great venue. Everyones there except Derek! Warren,Oteil,Greg,Marc,Butch and Jaimoe,even Jack Pearson. Dickey could just sit in for a few numbers with any one of them...or all of them. The crowd there's great.


 
Posted : August 10, 2015 2:08 pm
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I would love to hear them play together.

Agreed and I believe the most desirable format would be a "jam" of some sort, the more raw, the better.


 
Posted : August 11, 2015 12:15 am
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I think it would be cool if Dickey still has his chops and can keep up with Gregg's band. His chops had been eroding for years and now he hasn't toured in a while. I am thinking he is probably permanently retired at this point.

Dickey cannot join Gregg's band. Gregg has always had his side band even when ABB was around. His Gregg Allman band was a place he could express himself in ways that he could not with ABB. That's why he loves keeping that. Even if ABB reunited/reformed, he would still keep his own band for creative artistic expression.

As for Dickey, he has his own band, but they did not tour enough to be a sustainable band. Even when ABB was still touring and he was with his own band (after the fax incident), he did not establish a tour schedule that would support the band members as their only source of income. He could have (and still could) set up regional touring to help the band stay on track. That is part of the problem with people taking his band seriously.

I think it is possible for there to be some new band with some of the old ABB people in it, and some new people. During different estrangements of ABB as a band, all the band members played with other people, that's what musicians do. Since that happened in the past, I think it is reasonable to think that could happen again.

[Edited on 8/8/2015 by gina]

I wasn't talking about Dickey joining Greeg's band permanently. I was simply talking about Dickey sitting in with Gregg's band at a show the way he sat in with Tedeschi Trucks band.

He could do that, the idea that people wanted him to join Gregg's band permanently was answered by Gregg when he said he was full up with the guitar slots in his band being filled. So that's why I commented that he really couldn't join the band, firstly because there was no spot for him, secondly for creative musical reasons. They do different stuff musically. In ABB it was blues with the exception of Ramblin' Man that Dickey brought into the band and people just loved it so they went with it. I remember one of the first shows where they played before it was released, the crowd went crazy, they knew it would be successful so they put it on the Brothers and Sisters album.


 
Posted : August 11, 2015 8:25 am
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Thoughts for those so aghast the thought of a Gregg and Dickey get together, to as GA says, jam......

It was never said by GA it would be for anyone else's hearing, so you may be spared the agony.

You can choose to not listen if offered the choice.

You can let others perceive and rate their own enjoyment or not, as perception and preference come into play.

Yes the Willie Mays argument is always there, but who is a nobody to tell a great what to enjoy?

If you are right, Gregg is deluded for thinking such an idiotic thought, hey, give GA a call, maybe he will take it. I'm sure he needs an advisor.

While these are my thoughts on this, I can't comprehend why I would take a stance that everyone who doesn't think like me is wrong. Maybe I am, so what. This is a net forum full of blah blah.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeee I hope some take this very, very, very seriously!

Who is "aghast" to them getting together to play? Of course they would get together informally first before heading out onto a stage to let others hear it. Nobody is opposed to that. They both said they would like to play together, so when they can, they prorbably will. Gregg's touring right now and he had a momentous life event to deal with on top of that, so he's been kinda busy.


 
Posted : August 11, 2015 8:28 am
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Now Oteil says he is retired?

Not so fast...I just read where Oteil is joining up with Bob Weir, Bill Kreutzman, Mickey Hart & John Mayer & Jeff (uh...whatshisname from RatDog) to do a tour.

EDIT: Well, I see there's already a thread about this. Thought I had a scoop...never mind.

[Edited on 8/11/2015 by chiliD]


 
Posted : August 11, 2015 3:49 pm
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Now Oteil says he is retired?

Not so fast...I just read where Oteil is joining up with Bob Weir, Bill Kreutzman, Mickey Hart & John Mayer & Jeff (uh...whatshisname from RatDog) to do a tour.

EDIT: Well, I see there's already a thread about this. Thought I had a scoop...never mind.

You are taking this quote out of context, it was regarding Oteil mentioning that Dickey is retired in a recent interview. Let's read carefully before we lose our shit, folks. Here's the whole exchange:

BTW Dickey can barely reunite with his own band right now, what makes you people think he'd leave the house for Gregg?

When exactly did Dickey "retire"? I know a few years ago he retired, got bored, and went back out on the road until this past winter when his brother passed away and he canceled his summer 2015 dates. Now Oteil says he is retired? I know Pedro and co. have to eat and keep playing elsewhere in the meant time (and Mike Kach is having a fund-raiser for his health) but I've never heard of a retired musician.

[Edited on 8/12/2015 by porkchopbob]


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Posted : August 11, 2015 4:13 pm
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Based on how much ass he kicked at the two ARU shows I just saw, Oteil is most definitely NOT retired.

As good as I've ever heard him. Great tone, gymnastic chops, everything that makes him a special musician was on full display in Atlanta and Athens.


 
Posted : August 11, 2015 4:20 pm
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and he'S the bassist in Dead and Friends with the Dead and John Meyer at msg in Oct.
Perhaps Dickey and Greg have taken the Dead "Fare the Well" hype into consideration in an ABB final Finale with all the surviving members.

[Edited on 8/12/2015 by bettyhynes]


 
Posted : August 11, 2015 4:44 pm
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Well maybe it's time to look back at another Gregg Allman interview, where Oteil was going to leave the ABB so he could spend more time with his family and less on the road. Although Oteil does say he wants to spend as much time with his kid as he can, now he is divorced and on the road with ARU and the Dead & Co.

If that was not enough, in one of these recent interviews, Gregg even says the "all compositions by GA" album may have to wait for a while.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would take anything he says in an interview seriously.


 
Posted : August 11, 2015 4:58 pm
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