I won't pay to see a simulcast, nor purchase any recordings of these shows. This was a joke and they can kiss my ass.
The major news in this thread?
When did Lee get married???
This link is what you might call fuel for the fire. I am merely the messenger. Apologies if somebody posted this already.
Blooby
http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/03/media/grateful-dead-tickets/index.html
This link is what you might call fuel for the fire. I am merely the messenger. Apologies if somebody posted this already.
Blooby
http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/03/media/grateful-dead-tickets/index.html
I saw a t-shirt recently that read, "Yeah, I'm old but I got to see all the really good bands." I was hoping Donna would get me this shirt for Christmas so that I could take a sharpie and put in the addendum: "and I saw most for under $20.00!".
There are advantages to being old. Yeah, I saw the Dead - with Jerry Garcia on 3 different occasions. I think the most I paid for a ticket might have been around $50.00 - and that was for a seat with a view.
Not only that, but the Grateful Dead was the Grateful Dead in those days. No elaborate stage show or excessive lighting - just the original crew with their famed leader. They were in their PRIME and they played long shows! Trey might be a great player, and the remainder of the band might still be viable, but there's just no way that this band and these "Fare Thee Well" shows have the horsepower and originality of that band that I saw so many years ago.
Do I honestly believe that fans will pay "$116,000.00" (price on StubHub as cited by CNN Money article)? The most polite answer that I can give is no fockin way! I don't think there are even a substantial number willing (or able) to pay the lower reported price of $7,499.00 (for a three day pass that actually sold (as per the article)) on StubHub. Sure, there might be a high-roller or two out there who has run out of things to spend his or her money on, but I don't see Soldier Field filling up at these prices.
Tickets for $7k - to $116K? No, scalpers aren't involved here at all! 😉
All a friend can say is, "ain't it a shame?".
I understand what you guys are saying about supply and demand, but there is a reason they can't just add more dates. Trey does have another band. You may have heard of them, they are called Phish, and they begin their summer tour shortly after these shows. His time is likely already booked for the immediate aftermath of the Fare Thee Well shows on July 4th weekend.
They could always do more shows with another guitarist, but that would dilute the whole idea of the Chicago shows being The End, not to mention that the Core Four would have to agree on another guitarist. Good luck with that!
This was always intended to be a one-off, grand farewell gesture, not a tour. That is why they are playing a freaking football stadium in the first place--to try to accommodate as many people as possible. Well, that and I don't think it's a coincidence that Soldier Field was the site of the last proper Dead show.
I'm glad I decided to pass on these shows. Trey was the main attraction for me anyway, and I will probably get more bang for my buck saving my money for Phish tickets.
It's actually the ultimate bait-and-switch on my part. I can get prime tickets for Phish shows in Atlanta for a fraction of what Chicago would have cost, so my wife can't say a thing about it 😉
They won't be allowing camping on Park District property .. http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-grateful-dead-soldier-field-camping-20150303-story.html
Also you can still get arrested for pot possession on Park District property .. in the rest of the city it's only a ticket.
Lee, they can't play three more nights..
Jay Cutler will be practicing bonding with his teammates
Don't forget about his "getting along with others personality" seminars.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
I understand what you guys are saying about supply and demand, but there is a reason they can't just add more dates. Trey does have another band. You may have heard of them, they are called Phish, and they begin their summer tour shortly after these shows. His time is likely already booked for the immediate aftermath of the Fare Thee Well shows on July 4th weekend.
They could always do more shows with another guitarist, but that would dilute the whole idea of the Chicago shows being The End, not to mention that the Core Four would have to agree on another guitarist. Good luck with that!
This was always intended to be a one-off, grand farewell gesture, not a tour. That is why they are playing a freaking football stadium in the first place--to try to accommodate as many people as possible. Well, that and I don't think it's a coincidence that Soldier Field was the site of the last proper Dead show.
I'm glad I decided to pass on these shows. Trey was the main attraction for me anyway, and I will probably get more bang for my buck saving my money for Phish tickets.
It's actually the ultimate bait-and-switch on my part. I can get prime tickets for Phish shows in Atlanta for a fraction of what Chicago would have cost, so my wife can't say a thing about it 😉
Didn't Phish call it quits before? I may be wrong but I thought they did.
And Rob, I realize you love Phish but do you really think they couldn't sell out more shows with Warren perhaps?
Totally agree that they are ending it at Soldier Field for a reason.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
Lee, as much as we all love Warren, he has never been in a band that could sell out Madison Square Garden 4 times....well, except The Dead 😉
Phish is a much larger draw than Mule, no matter how you want to measure it, and Trey and Warren are the stars of both bands.
People can argue whether Trey was the right musical decision, but in terms of putting butts in seats....well, I think the results speak for themselves.
someone mentioned this before, but the reason why scalpers are asking such outrageous prices is because they think they can get them.
Did you hear what tix were going for before the recent Super Bowl?. That was 5 - 10 x more than they were going for the last time the Pats were in.
anyway, I saw the GD with Jerry about 20 times starting in 78, never paid more than $50 (usually signficantly less), have no desire to travel to Chicago to see this band, but I'm glad for everyone who did and hope they have a good time.
As far as Trey vs Warren, both are great guitarists, and it's all personal taste. My 1st choice for this gig would have been Kimock. BTW, you should have seen some of the posts on the Philzone after the PSU show in 08. Not a lot of love for Warren there. From where I sat at the show, I thought Warren did a fine job but he was clearly stifled by Bobby - I saw Weir waving Warren off at least once when he started to play.
At least the GD are planning simulcasts and webcasts, unlike another famous band who recently called it quits.
I saw a t-shirt recently that read, "Yeah, I'm old but I got to see all the really good bands."
An ex GF got me that shirt 
I don't wear it too much as I am not old. 😉
It's all Susan's fault.
how many Deadheads does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
100,000....One to screw it in and 99,999 to follow it around after it burns out.
Lee, as much as we all love Warren, he has never been in a band that could sell out Madison Square Garden 4 times....well, except The Dead 😉
Phish is a much larger draw than Mule, no matter how you want to measure it, and Trey and Warren are the stars of both bands.
People can argue whether Trey was the right musical decision, but in terms of putting butts in seats....well, I think the results speak for themselves.
Rob, I guess I didn't articulate my point correctly. By "more" I meant additional shows, even with or without Trey. I wasn't suggesting they would sell more tickets with one or the other. I really doubt it would matter. Either are ancillary to the whole premise of the shows.
I simply think they would be able to sell out additional shows, even if Trey has other obligations. I don't think the reason they had such a huge demand and so many people shut out has anything to do with Trey. They could have plugged in any of the great guitarists of our favorite genre and the demand still would have been there.
My opinion of course.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
They would sell out regardless of who was playing with them. They likely got Trey as he sings out of tune also. This ensures that harmonies will be all over the map with Bob and Phil leading the way.
I see what you mean Lee. Sure, they could play as many shows as they want with Warren or another guitarist. However, the whole point of this Fare Thee Well event seems to be to have one BIG EVENT and not just a series of smaller shows.
And yes, they could have sold out these shows with Kimock or Warren or any number of other people. Still, don't fool yourself, there is no other guitarist in the jamband world who pulls as much weight as Trey Anastasio. Within the subset of "jamband guitarists" he is the top of the pyramid.
"They likely got Trey as he sings out of tune also."
I'm really hoping they let Hornsby handle a lot of the vocals. He is easily the best singer in this lineup.
I love Trey as a guitarist and I'm truly happy he has gotten his act together, but he isn't even the best singer in Phish. That would be Page McConnell.
Good comments guys. Not to say I am championing Warren, but he is probably the best vocalist of the names bandied about. Lord knows we don't want to listen to Phil "sing". 😛
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
Can't have people running around singing Dead songs in tune as there are standards to uphold here.
IMHO, I also don't think the guitarist they picked had much to do with the demand for these three shows, but it did seem like there was less demand for the Chicago Further shows a few years back with John Kadlecik.
In any event, let's hope all attempts at harmony are kept to a minimum.
I hope they are great shows but the whole vibe around them seems to be greed , I'm not interested in the least , I saw Furthur several times and had so much fun for so much less $ .
Off topic the wife and I are planing on taking a trip to catch David Gilmour when he tours .
Can't have people running around singing Dead songs in tune as there are standards to uphold here.
Too funny and all too true, you are killin' me.
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funny, but - seriously. Listen to American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, and some of the live shows recorded between 70 - 76 (but don't listen to a live version of Box of Rain, or Donna wailing in Playin in the Band)
then tell me what you think of the vocals.
[Edited on 3/8/2015 by stormyrider]
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funny, but - seriously. Listen to American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, and some of the live shows recorded between 70 - 76 (but don't listen to a live version of Box of Rain, or Donna wailing in Playin in the Band)
then tell me what you think of the vocals.
Listen to American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, and some of the live shows recorded between 70 - 76
So, at the very least, 39 years ago, the band could sing?...and "Some"?
And it's been my experience that whenever I've said to a dead fan, "I don't care for the band" or "They can't sing" the answer has always been either, "Have you seen them Live"...or "Have you listened to..."
Yes and Yes. Imho, half the time they can not sing worth **** and the other half they are not even in tune.
Here ya go:
Gonna sit on the roof, watching the fireworks and listen to some Dead. Nobody in their right mind would pay that amount of money.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
^^
funny, but - seriously. Listen to American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, and some of the live shows recorded between 70 - 76 (but don't listen to a live version of Box of Rain, or Donna wailing in Playin in the Band)
then tell me what you think of the vocals.Listen to American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, and some of the live shows recorded between 70 - 76
So, at the very least, 39 years ago, the band could sing?...and "Some"?
And it's been my experience that whenever I've said to a dead fan, "I don't care for the band" or "They can't sing" the answer has always been either, "Have you seen them Live"...or "Have you listened to..."p
Yes and Yes. Imho, half the time they can not sing worth **** and the other half they are not even in tune.
the word "some" was not required for that era. My mistake for not parsing my words carefully enough.
granted, I'm talking about only a small segment of their career. For me the sweet spot of the GD is 68 - 78, with a few 80s shows thrown in, but mostly 68-76.
I honestly don't think you can argue with the vocals on Workingman's or AB
It's all personal taste, YMMV
Legend has it that Crosby, Stills and Nash helped give the Dead harmony lessons during the Workingman's/American Beauty era.
It seems to have worked, at least in the short term, but whatever they learned seemed to wear off over time 😉
Maybe they should have taken notes?
