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Rust1
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Do you think there are any existing studio recordings in the 'vaults' that would be released in the future? Or do you think the ABB will ever record again, even if they don't tour?

Hard to swallow the fact that the longest-running version of the band had only ONE studio effort. That's just lame. How did that happen? I loved HTN and can't believe they didn't have a follow-up album.


 
Posted : November 15, 2014 9:15 pm
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With the talent of all the musicians in the 90's band and the latest and last it's hard to imagine they never recorded more.... I really hope they did and that it surfaces in the future.

I imagine Warren and Derek's creativity went into their respective bands but it's hard to believe Gregg hasn't written anything for the band in so long.

Thank God we have so much with what they did record over the last 45 years.... long live The Allman Brothers Band.... the road goes on forever!


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 12:26 am
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I'll be amazed if there are no future "De Luxe" type resissues with live shows in the style of EAP and B & S.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 1:07 am
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I don't think there many (if any) fully acomplished unreleased songs in the ABB vaults. They are just not that kind of band. Maybe some alternate takes or demos left of already released songs that might be used for the bonus disc of some future deluxe edition re-release. But i'm not sure if that is going to happen either. Wouldn't know what studio release "deserves" to get that treatment (from the viewpoint of the band or record company).

I personally think we will get some live archive releases. Gregg didn't have his heart in that anymore either (Duane era) but maybe they could use the revenue / royalties since they won't be making any money anymore from touring with the ABB. Time will tell.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 1:38 am
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I doubt it.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 3:01 am
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I' would like to see a release of the solo album that Duane was working on in at Muscle Shoals in early 1969 before the formation of the ABB. Three of the eight songs have been officially released. If any alternate takes or jams exist from that era, perhaps they could be included.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 4:03 am
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Al Paul's book mentions that they recorded Rocking Horse (everyone except Dickey and his parts) for the Where It All Begins album. I would love to hear that. Warren also played Who To Believe at a 1993 Wetlands show with Butch, Jamoe, and others so I would guess that there is, say, a 1% chance they could have a demo of that from the 90s.

I like the idea the idea of a Back Where It All Begins Deluxe release. That is their strongest album since the '70s and I think it would be a great way to release the Rocking Horse track along with some live cuts from the '94 tour which was a monster. There is a very good Statesboro and other material left over from the Second Set album they could use for some professional recording quality material but I would hope they would also include some material that is not already in circulation too.

Other items THEY ABSOLUTELY NEED TO RELEASE on audio and maybe DVD too:

The OHN Filter show from Germany '91

The Crested Butte Show for VH1 '91

The Tonight Show performances from '90 and '91 (The True Gravity and Kind of Bird with the Tonight Show Brass are both in a class by themselves in ABB history and absolutely need to be release at lease as audio)

Knowing how stubborn the band is, the chances of any of this happening are 1 in a million.
....but knowing how stubborn myself and the rest of the ABB fan base is, the holding pattern remains:


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 4:18 am
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My .02 is that nothing decent new, unheard, unreleased, etc. exists of any incarnation of the ABB or we would have heard it by now in the many various retrospectives and compilations. The best we can hope for, besides a reunion of course, would be continued archival releases. I would hope they would concentrate on the post 89 eras which would garner the most interest from the fans IMO with Raleigh 2000 getting a lot of consideration. It is also my hope that possibly some actual photos and liner notes be included other than the current stock archival packaging. It would be a nice touch and gesture from the band. Of course ... It'll never happen but that's what forums are for.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 4:57 am
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It may be possible that there are recorded versions recorded in rehearsal for several songs that were played live that could be compiled.

J J's Alley
Rave On
Tombstone Eyes
I Know I Ought to Leave
Egypt
Bag End
The River's Gonna Rise
Just Another Rider
Ain't No Love In The Heart Of The City
Blind Willie McTell
and others


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 6:02 am
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It took these guys until the late 90s to start switching their setlists and until the late aughts until they started selling live shows.

HIGHLY doubt they recorded rehearsals.
Not convinced there's even a chance.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 6:16 am
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"HIGHLY doubt they recorded rehearsals." - I agree.

Just pointing out that there are enough titles to make an interesting compilation.

The "Dreams" box set and Gregg's anthology make it even less likely.

My hope is that there are shows that were recorded that could be released. Like the Beacon 92 set that came out recently. The first week of May 1995 would be great, as would many others for live releases.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 6:29 am
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CB very interesting list. And there may be some recorded rehearsals. However, the most glaring obstacle with your list are obviously the first three songs being Dickey compositions. I doubt Dickey would give permission to use and highly unlikely that the other three would want to use. Also (I forget) but didn't "Tombstone Eyes" morph into something else? At least a couple of those appear on Dickey Betts Collector's. Also another thing about rehearsals is that the majority of the performances are below the standards of the artists. They aren't intended for official release. I truly believe that artists in general initial apprehension to bootleg/live recording was that of subpar performance/recording and not loss of revenue. Peakin' At The Beacon may have proved a point but hurt everybody's reputation IMO.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 6:49 am
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Charlesinator - I agree with you on the fear of hurt reputations. The thing these guys don't understand is that stuff is all already out there and the people who would buy these sorts of releases are not the types to be surprised or turned off by and less that perfect performance.

The other release they NEED to do is the professionally recorded MACON '91 sets particularly the 12/29/91 Kind of Bird which is perfect. Be great to hear some other takes on Low Down Dirty and Mean, Nobody Knows. The Jessica, Dreams, Southbound and also particularly strong from 12/29/91. I am almost positive these were professionally recorded for the First Set album.

[Edited on 11/16/2014 by axeman]


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 6:54 am
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I do believe those Macon shows were recorded for First Set...but the band found them so disappointing that they changed the original plan and recorded a bunch more shows.

As for another studio recording by the ABB, I think that ship has sailed. I would settle for a live "Best Of Unreleased" collection featuring some of the tunes on CB's list. There is a good record to be had there, at least as good as Hittin' the Note, maybe better.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 8:45 am
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It would be nice if a release like RobJohnson just posted could be done or a continuation of the archive series from a few years back.

If Johnny Winter have an ongoing archive collection, you'd think that the ABB would be even more successful with it. I guess Johnny had better record deals and more control over his archives?


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 9:22 am
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It would be nice if a release like RobJohnson just posted could be done or a continuation of the archive series from a few years back.

Are there Duane-era archives that might be released?


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 1:42 pm
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It took these guys until the late 90s to start switching their setlists and until the late aughts until they started selling live shows.

HIGHLY doubt they recorded rehearsals.
Not convinced there's even a chance.

I agree. Even if they did have recordings of practices I doubt they'd release them.

If you want really old out-takes, and demos from the late 60s you can find them though; but you'll have to trade for them.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 1:51 pm
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"Also (I forget) but didn't "Tombstone Eyes" morph into something else?"

Charlesinator, yes Tombstone Eyes morphed into "Girl The Deep Blue Eyes" and into "Those Eyes Again", not sure the order. The Dickey Betts Band did it as "Tombstone Eyes"

DBB also did "Rave On". J J's Alley became the DBB's "One Stop Bebop" which also had a semi-acoustic version called "One Stop Bebop #2".

Another possible but unlikely song would be "The Blue's Aiin't Nothin'".

Also, when considering rehearsals, please remember there are rehearsals in studio as well as for shows. Maybe someone rolled tape?


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 4:34 pm
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Do they even own the rights to their catalog? I know they have their own label but other than the five archive releases, who released the other material?


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 6:35 pm
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I think they had bad record deals and bad decisions with their rights over the years and that causes some issues with releases.


 
Posted : November 16, 2014 7:57 pm
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Folks... it's over.

IF they couldn't release a studio cd while together it's crazy to believe one could come now...

dig in and take in some Mule or TTB


 
Posted : November 18, 2014 1:09 am
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We know it's over Steve, but we just can't seem to leave. Smile


 
Posted : November 18, 2014 4:40 am
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Posted : November 18, 2014 4:46 am
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Great tune Axe not sure how it fits into Future Studio Release thread, but definitely a great tune that for some reason escaped the psyche of the band. Maybe the no royalties for current members or that "strange behavior" by Johnny was truly strange. Lol! 😮


 
Posted : November 18, 2014 5:13 am
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Gregg's got 5-10 new records, songs, er ideas just laying around... IF one was to belive the multitude of times he was quoted saying something to that affect over the last 10-15 years, but....
I ain't bettin on it. if it was ABB STUDIO (not live recordings), i'd think they'd have released it by now, but then again, they don't make great biz decisions.

EAPFWishfulThinkin'


 
Posted : November 18, 2014 6:15 am
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Plus they have all those songs that Gregg has written alone and with Warren since HTN came out. Even if it was only one song per year then they may have a double release just waiting.
😉

Now once everyone has a touring version of the ABB, we may get all sorts of releases. Butch's version will be made up of members from Blackfoot and non original Molly Hatchet members.


 
Posted : November 18, 2014 6:42 am
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I've mentioned these plenty before but these two new song "segments" that were added in latter years could have been just great independent songs on their own:

Derek's Rockin Horse section (starting at 4:55):

The section Warren added to No One To Run With (starting at 7:20 to the near end):

You can easily imagine Gregg coming in with some vocals on these two. Good chord patterns to add a vocal melody to....

And these to the list above along with Spots of Time and Dusk Till Dawn (which Gregg could have killed the vocal on in the studio) and these guys had enough ideas for a strong studio album if a couple choice, old blues covers had been added. In the end, they didn't feel the need/desire to do it. It was a lost opportunity with this lineup.


 
Posted : November 18, 2014 6:59 am
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It took these guys until the late 90s to start switching their setlists and until the late aughts until they started selling live shows.

HIGHLY doubt they recorded rehearsals.
Not convinced there's even a chance.

I agree. Even if they did have recordings of practices I doubt they'd release them.

If you want really old out-takes, and demos from the late 60s you can find them though; but you'll have to trade for them.

I have a commercial bootleg high grade with nice cover photos from the 90's done by 'Most Wanted Recording" the (2) CD's have art on them, very pro done. It is called "Somebody's Calling". It has soundboard rehearsals along with performances in the studio. Disc 1 is rehearsal, Disc 2 is Studio live. All unplugged.

Are there other rehearsals recorded? I bet yes. Will they come out? I bet no.


 
Posted : November 18, 2014 7:08 am
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