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sully
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Friends,

From Jamband.com and Oteil:

Shifting back to the MSG show, the Allman Brothers have such a deep catalog of songs. How are you deciding on the night’s setlist? For me at least, it seems like we worked backwards. You put down the songs that you absolutely have to play first. There’s a stable of songs that have to be done. If you’re only going to do one show, you can’t leave them out, and there’s a lot of them. So it depends on how many of those there are before we can start playing around. We only have so much time.

So, I'm thinking a 3-hour show. Average song length of 8 minutes (combo of shorter songs, long jams and time in between songs), I'm think the set list will be 20 - 25 songs. 10 first set. 10 second set. 3 encore.

So .... what are the songs that make the set list? We can get into the order of the set list later, but wondering what you think makes it as a staple song and what songs would you that might not be a staple but you think they'll play.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 7:10 am
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Bet it will be pretty similar to the final show, drawing mostly from the first 4 albums, naturally.


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Posted : January 13, 2020 7:24 am
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210-minute version of Mountain Jam. 1 song to bring closure to the ABB.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 7:41 am
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Always loved the jazz swing in some of their instrumentals, like I-Ilness, Kinda Bird, JJ’s Alley - as Scott Freeman wrote about Kinda Bird in his xclnt book Midnight Riders, “rock bands are simply not supposed to be able to play jazz with a feeling this nimble & full of swing”

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Posted : January 13, 2020 7:57 am
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So .... what are the songs that make the set list? We can get into the order of the set list later, but wondering what you think makes it as a staple song and what songs would you that might not be a staple but you think they'll play.

Staples:

-Not my Cross to bear/DWYNM
-Revival
-Trouble no more
-Statesboro
-Liz Reed
-Midnight Rider
-Whipping Post
-Blue Sky
-Jessica
-One Way Out
-Hot Lanta

Probably will play:

-Ain't wastin time no more
-Black hearted woman
-Mountain Jam
-Stand Back

May Play:

-Please Call Home
-Will the Circle be unbroken
-Little Martha
-Les Brers in A Minor
-Dimples


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 8:14 am
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Agreed about similar to last show. 26 songs listed over 3 sets that night. Under the 3 hours/8 min. per song theory, that means 3 songs are out...

Jessica, which was not played the last night will 100% be in the show on 3/10 (Chuck)...that means another has to go.

Schoolgirl
Sky is crying
and...?????

If that's the plan, that means no:
Stormy Monday
Les Brers
Done Somebody Wrong
Come & Go Blues
Worried Down with the Blues
Leave my Blues at Home
Come on in my Kitchen
Don't Keep me Wonderin'
Stand Back
True Gravity
Desdemona
Woman Across the River
etal.

It should be a fantastic show no matter which songs they select. I wouldn't want to be in charge of saying which ones are in and which ones are out.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 8:24 am
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So .... what are the songs that make the set list? We can get into the order of the set list later, but wondering what you think makes it as a staple song and what songs would you that might not be a staple but you think they'll play.

Staples:

-Not my Cross to bear/DWYNM
-Revival
-Trouble no more
-Statesboro
-Liz Reed
-Midnight Rider
-Whipping Post
-Blue Sky
-Jessica
-One Way Out
-Hot Lanta

Probably will play:

-Ain't wastin time no more
-Black hearted woman
-Mountain Jam
-Stand Back

May Play:

-Please Call Home
-Will the Circle be unbroken
-Little Martha
-Les Brers in A Minor
-Dimples

Dreams must be added to the "Staples" list


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 8:25 am
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Has anyone thought, for one moment, as a homage to Dickey, Ramblin' Man might be played?


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 8:29 am
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Has anyone thought, for one moment, as a homage to Dickey, Ramblin' Man might be played?

Without Gregg and Butch there, I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if they played it.


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Posted : January 13, 2020 8:38 am
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With chuck as a guest, they will do Southbound


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 8:55 am
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Just as the band hit following Duane’s accident, it Really hit on the last song Berry Oakley played on - Ramblin Man

Dickey is so identified w/it - unless Berry Duane Oakley could be there to play his dad’s part on his farewell song - which he won’t be unfortunately w/Allman-Betts on the west coast - I kinda doubt it personally - Smile but who knows


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 9:04 am
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considering the personnel in the group, I think 6 dickey songs make the list and there are 23 that make the cut. good coverage of the players, the eras and the styles of tunes.

betts:
jessica, liz reed, blue sky, southbound, revival, no one to run with

gregg songs:
dream, midnight rider, whipping post, ain't wastin time no more, black hearted woman, stand back, melissa

abb songs:
mountain jam, hot lanta, DWYNM/AMCTB

abb cover songs:
statesboro, trouble no more, one way out, done somebody wrong, you don't love me, stormy monday


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 9:06 am
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Les Brers would be the perfect opener. That slow rise of sound as The Brothers get back on their feet 5 years and two deaths later, then launch into the most badass show anybody has ever heard.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 9:15 am
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Hoping the 90s and 00s aren't ignored, even though the first 5 albums will be the focus. Would love to hear True Gravity, End of the Line, Desdemona, High Cost of Low Living. At least a couple each from the Epic and HTN eras. Only playing the first 5 albums doesn't do justice to the impact Warren, Marc, Derek, Oteil had on the band and keeping the music alive from those eras too.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 9:19 am
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I can’t resist a troll comment here.

Dusk til Dawn
Egypt.
Bag End
Instrumental Illness
I’m only half joking about Egypt, that was one hot tune when they first started playing it in ‘05

In seriousness though I would hope they would stick to mostly original ABB tunes and the old blues covers that became staples for them.

I loved hearing them do Into the Mystic and Manic Depression etc.. but for this show I think honoring the compositions of Gregg and Dickey is the way to go.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 9:22 am
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Hoping the 90s and 00s aren't ignored, even though the first 5 albums will be the focus. Would love to hear True Gravity, End of the Line, Desdemona, High Cost of Low Living. At least a couple each from the Epic and HTN eras. Only playing the first 5 albums doesn't do justice to the impact Warren, Marc, Derek, Oteil had on the band and keeping the music alive from those eras too.

I agree, it would be overlooking the importance of Warren to the brotherhood if they didn’t play at least one of his. Soulshine will probably find its way into a set list but my personal choice would be Rockin’ Horse so you can get a little nod to Allen Woody in there too.
The extended version of Rockin’ Horse with the funky intro and the E major jam towards the end also symbolizes the contributions of the Youngbloods of the group to me.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 9:29 am
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The setlist for the last show was almost 100% from the first four albums (plus Southbound, Good Morning Little Schoolgirl, High Cost of Low Living and The Sky Is Crying). And the two blues songs were probably included mostly so Warren could sing and Gregg could take a break. I think this is going to be broadly similar. They'll play Jessica and probably Southbound with Chuck - he also guested a bunch of times on Mountain Jam in the band's later years, so I wouldn't be surprised if he plays that or Desdemona. They could also nod to Reese's career in some way.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 10:01 am
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May Play:

-Please Call Home
-Will the Circle be unbroken
-Little Martha
-Les Brers in A Minor
-Dimples

I will be surprised if they play any of those, although a Les Brers intro/ DWYNM/ NMCTB would be good.

Little Martha over the PA at the end.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 10:50 am
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Based on Oteil's comments, I'm nevertheless going to wager that with Warren and Derek calling the shots and only Jaimoe to pull back the reigns, we're going to see at least one lesser known instrumental and 3-4 deeper tracks.

[Edited on 1/13/2020 by islalala]


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 11:00 am
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Tributes to the fallen band member is a nice thought. I hope Chuck does more than a song or two
as has been suggested. Ramblin, Come & go, Soundbound are natural Chuck songs an give kudos
to Dickey. Gregg's vocals are nearly impossible to replace an shame if Lamar is not involved.
Could it be the night of a lot of instrumentals with a just a few songs with a band member singing?

Last (3rd) set: Les Brers, Dreams, Whipping Post, Trouble No More at close to an hour


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 11:11 am
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my personal choice would be Rockin’ Horse so you can get a little nod to Allen Woody in there too

Everybody has their faves, but for a show honoring 50 years, that seems like such a deep cut, even for HTN. If they were going to do anything from HTN I would predict "High Cost".


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Posted : January 13, 2020 11:58 am
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And Chuck played on Desdemona a few times as a guest in 2001 before it was released (and maybe again later). Took that first keyboard solo. I'd love to see/hear it again.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 12:13 pm
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my personal choice would be Rockin’ Horse so you can get a little nod to Allen Woody in there too

Everybody has their faves, but for a show honoring 50 years, that seems like such a deep cut, even for HTN. If they were going to do anything from HTN I would predict "High Cost".

Yeah, I see your point. It seems like Rockin Horse was never really a favorite of anyone's as an ABB tune.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 12:51 pm
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I would love My only true friend to be played by them.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 2:31 pm
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"It seems like Rockin Horse was never really a favorite of anyone's as an ABB tune."

It certainly seemed to be a favorite of Warren's! 😛

This is a very interesting topic. I will definitely be wondering what the most unexpected selection is that they will roll out.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 3:10 pm
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"It seems like Rockin Horse was never really a favorite of anyone's as an ABB tune."It certainly seemed to be a favorite of Warren's! --This is a very interesting topic. I will definitely be wondering what the most unexpected selection is that they will roll out.

A previous poster made the observation that Derek and Warren will have a lot of say with only Jaimoe to pull back on them (ya think Dickey and Gregg wouldn't have had strong opinions?).

I do think it opens up the possibility of a tune or tunes from the "Derek-Warren" era. Since this is a celebration of the anniversary of the band, well they were part of the band as the lead guitar duo far longer than Duane and Dickey. To ignore that would be as foolish as playing anything off "Reach for the Sky"

Soulshine and Desdemona are good candidates-- or just turn Derek and Warren loose on Mountain Jam for about 45 minutes.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 4:00 pm
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I think Soulshine will be played. It has over 1 million plays on YouTube and had become a sing along at ABB shows starting in 1995. They played Soulshine in 1997 when Jack and Otiel replaced Warren and Allen and the crowd sang along just as they did on Blue Sky, Whipping Post and Midnight Rider.

Gregg was playing Southbound and did a set up both times I saw him solo in 2015. On the set up Gregg said " Here is a fine song written by Dickey Betts". They asked Butch about that and he said Gregg thinks he misses Dickey but nothing will become of that.

Now Butch said in 2000 the ABB will never play Ranblin Man again and as soon as they write some new instrumentals they aren't playing ANY songs written by Dickey. We are done with that. It's going to be a different band.

But it wasn't long Dickey songs began being played including Blue Sky sung by Gregg then by Warren.

So....I bet they will play Ramblin' Man with Warren or Chuck singing. Not so much to us but to the casual fan Ramblin' Man is their most famous song and last time I saw any statistics, Ramblin' Man BY FAR had received the most airplay on radio stations. And Dickey was given an airplay award in the late 80's for 1 million plays on U.S. radio stations. That if just one station play only Ramblin' Man one million times, it would take 7 years playing it 24 hours a day.
Chuck and Gregg sing background on Ramblin' Man and it was the last thing Berry Oakley plays on bass and the bass line on the studio track, if you zero in on it, smokes!


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 4:03 pm
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I
Statesboro Blues
Don't Want You No More
It's Not My Cross to Bear
Ain't Wastin' Time No More
End of the Line
Blue Sky
One Way Out
Soulshine
Come and Go Blues*
Ramblin' Man*
Jessica*
Southbound*

II
Melissa
Mountain Jam
You Don't Love Me
Back Where It All Begins
Don't Keep Me Wonderin'
Midnight Rider
Trouble No More
Dreams
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed*
Revival*
Mountain Jam*

E
Seven Turns
No One to Run With
Whipping Post

* w/ Chuck


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 4:07 pm
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Event Information
Event Date: Friday, April 1, 1994
Start Time: 7:00 PM *
Band: The Allman Brothers Band
Venue: Beacon Theatre
Location: New York, New York Weather ForecastWeather Map of Venue Map

Setlist
Order Song or Setlist Comment
1. Sailin' 'Cross The Devil's Sea
2. Statesboro Blues
3. Blue Sky
4. All Night Train
5. The Same Thing
6. Soulshine
7. Seven Turns
8. Jessica
9. Midnight Rider
10. Temptation Is A Gun
11. One Way Out
12. Change My Way of Living
13. You Don't Love Me
14. Dreams
15. Back Where It All Begins
16. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed
17. No One To Run With
18. Whipping Post


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 4:13 pm
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Jonesy it is true Derek and Warren were the guitar duo longer than Duane and Dickey but neither Derek or Warren were in the band as long as Dickey. But Warren comes close. 20 years total to Dickey's 25 years and I don't use 30 years as most. I subtract 1977, 1983, 4, 5, 7 and 8 as the band was on hiatus.

Duane and Dickey 1969 to 1971. Warren and Derek 2002 to 2014. Two years verses twelve years.

But as odd as it may seem, the Duane years are the focus years for average fans and fans like me and the radio stations that play classic rock and the compilation albums they put out on the band. Except for something from Brothers and Sisters and the occasional Soulshine, Good Clean Fun and No One Left To Run With, on the three classic rock stations I can pick up play songs with Duane on them. From airplay and compilation albums, one gets the impression Duane and Dickey were in the band together for 40 years.


 
Posted : January 13, 2020 4:19 pm
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