My wife for whatever reason switched from being a long time Lakers fan to GSW a few years ago. I smiled and said OK. We even ordered her a hoodie although I did surprise her with a Kobe sweatshirt at the same time. Not sure how she knew they would become winners but they did.
Now I have to watch her gloat and proclaim her expertise.
Don't like Lebron and can't make out a single tattoo but I gotta cheer for the Cavs. Agreeing with a wife after all these years of marriage just throws off the natural order of things.
Kerr's been to the Finals his only two years as Warriors coach. Jackson in three years never made it that far. Care to explain that, matt05?
it was already explained. Jackson had to break these guys in as rookies. Jackson had a very young team. this year with luke walton showed players can mature and don't need much coaching. kerr was coach of the year and lost more games with the warriors than walton did. the fact Jackson had 5 players getting significant who were rookies or 2nd year players and were doing great with the team says a lot. don't forget jacksons first year as coach curry got hurt and missed more than 1/2 the season and started the next year rusty from being out hurt
Superb team effort by GS last night.
And,Kerr coached a fine game using the bench well and getting excellent results.
Lebron should consider taking it to the basket-he hit 4-5 of those drives in the first quarter.Irving was awful,as he is too often-shoots too much and is really a shooting gaurd...Love did ok...why wasn't Frye shooting the ball?
Let's see if Cavs can adjust.
Kerr's been to the Finals his only two years as Warriors coach. Jackson in three years never made it that far. Care to explain that, matt05?
it was already explained. Jackson had to break these guys in as rookies. Jackson had a very young team. this year with luke walton showed players can mature and don't need much coaching. kerr was coach of the year and lost more games with the warriors than walton did. the fact Jackson had 5 players getting significant who were rookies or 2nd year players and were doing great with the team says a lot. don't forget jacksons first year as coach curry got hurt and missed more than 1/2 the season and started the next year rusty from being out hurt
Mark Jackson is also notorious for chasing himself out of town - he rubs people the wrong way every where he has gone. He tried to get John Stockton's starting job when he was in Utah - you'd have to be insane to suggest that in Utah, even if Stockton had lost both legs. I'm sure he was a solid coach, and there are a lot more variables in play than just switching coaches. Successful teams need a positive environment to play in. It's why bad owners always have bad teams (see the New York Knicks), and malcontent players are routinely dumped at whatever cost.
Anyways, the Warriors stepped on the gas in the 4th quarter last night. You could see as soon as the Cavs went up by 1, they got their sense of urgency back. They got the hot hand at just the right time.
Also, I just read that Kevin Love is Mike Love's nephew, and his dad, Stan Love, played four years in the NBA.
Le Bron James after last night's loss: "They got to the point where they were last year and won a championship because of their whole team and their bench," James said. "And they're here once again in the Finals because of their whole team. So nothing has really changed."
Can't argue with THAT assessment, LeBron.
Mark Jackson is also notorious for chasing himself out of town - he rubs people the wrong way every where he has gone. He tried to get John Stockton's starting job when he was in Utah - you'd have to be insane to suggest that in Utah, even if Stockton had lost both legs. I'm sure he was a solid coach, and there are a lot more variables in play than just switching coaches. Successful teams need a positive environment to play in. It's why bad owners always have bad teams (see the New York Knicks), and malcontent players are routinely dumped at whatever cost.
Can't argue with THAT assessment, porkchopbob.
Le Bron James after last night's loss: "They got to the point where they were last year and won a championship because of their whole team and their bench," James said. "And they're here once again in the Finals because of their whole team. So nothing has really changed."
Can't argue with THAT assessment, LeBron.
Mark Jackson is also notorious for chasing himself out of town - he rubs people the wrong way every where he has gone. He tried to get John Stockton's starting job when he was in Utah - you'd have to be insane to suggest that in Utah, even if Stockton had lost both legs. I'm sure he was a solid coach, and there are a lot more variables in play than just switching coaches. Successful teams need a positive environment to play in. It's why bad owners always have bad teams (see the New York Knicks), and malcontent players are routinely dumped at whatever cost.
Can't argue with THAT assessment, porkchopbob.
to add---i think there is a reason he hasn't been hired since fired from GS.I'd be surprised if he was ever a head coach in the NBA again.
Hate to gloat, but hey, I'm a Bay area Warriors fan.
"Cleveland is at full strength this year. The Warriors were lucky to catch them when they were down last year."
That is what some have said. I know it's not over yet, but I'd be interested to see if anyone still believes that after the first two games of this series.
I kind of expect Cleveland to win one at home, but not both. I originally predicted Warriors in six. After those first two games............I'll have to change that to Warriors in five. And the most amazing thing about this is that neither Curry or Thompson have gone off in this series yet. The Warriors may be the deepest team in NBA history.
The only good thing about that game was the Santana's playing the National Anthem 😉
Santana & his wife were excellent-very funky.
if you're a GS fan it was a blast.
OUCH. Could be a series still. Very impressive comeback by the Cavs, led by LeBron and Irving.
I have refrained (and will continue to do so) from any sort of trash talking or braggadocio on my Cavs. Yes I am highly superstitious when it comes to that.
Have you seen the ESPN 30 for 30 thing on Cleveland, called Believeland ? Enough said.
Anyhow, yes we won by 30, but is it possible, any sort of chance that these darn teams are in collusion to make this thing go to 7 games, or at least as long as possible?
All involved make more money if so, the cities, the teams, the NBA, TV, commercials, ratings on and on.
Anyhow, yes we won by 30, but is it possible, any sort of chance that these darn teams are in collusion to make this thing go to 7 games, or at least as long as possible?
Completely preposterous. Cavs came out extremely aggressively both on offense and defense with their backs against the wall. Warriors looked like they thought all they had to do was show up after games 1 and 2. Really that simple............Cleveland had the intensity last night.
Game 4 tomorrow will be very, very big. If Cavs take it, they are in this series. They would still have to win one in Oakland though. If Warriors win tomorrow I'd say it's essentially over.
When you have two great teams facing each other..........it NEVER goes as scripted. Look at the Warriors - OKC series.
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NBA players are not paid on a per game basis for the NBA finals. It makes no difference in what they make for a 4 game final series or a 7 game final.
another new mvp record set by curry. first nba mvp to score only 2 points in a half not counting a player leaving the court for injury or pulled due to a big lead.
It's simple. If GS is sinking 3s they win. If not then they look like chuckers.
another new mvp record set by curry. first nba mvp to score only 2 points in a half not counting a player leaving the court for injury or pulled due to a big lead.
Warriors 108 Cleveland 97. Curry: 38 points. Kiss my ass, matt05.
And for LeBron: You're a punk assh*le and a sore loser.
a few thoughts:
a fun,close game-finally 
curry was tremendous but the win came from the incredible GS defense,stopping the Tristan Thomson attack on the offensive boards & playing great team ball & movement on offense.
To contrast the Cavs were a one on one team with Kyrie & Lebron taking the bulk of the shots in an isolation offense-which always loses to team ball in the finals.One on one with poor D doesn't win-period.And.poor team defense is a major problem.
As for analytics-look at Irving & Lebron stat lines-great numbers & looks efficient when in fact they sucked,took terrible shots,etc....Lebron's turnovers...geez-no excuse for all these turnovers-kinda like watching the NBA turnover kings-Westbrook & Harden.
And Lebron is not a punk asshole & loser-he's one of the greatest players in NBA history who consistently leads his teams to the finals.Yes,he's got his character flaws-we all do-but his game,in general,is superb-shit happens during games-just gotta move past it-no big deal.Monday-hope it's a close game!
And Lebron is not a punk * & loser-he's one of the greatest players in NBA history who consistently leads his teams to the finals.Yes,he's got his character flaws-we all do-but his game,in general,is superb- * happens during games-just gotta move past it-no big deal.Monday-hope it's a close game!
Sorry Effie, LeBron's horse collar on Curry with less than one minute left WAS cheap and low class.
And I can tell you that judging from Facebook response, my opinion here in the Bay area is 100% unanimous (as if that's a big surprise, of course).
Yeah, LeBron's one of the greatest to ever play the game. He's also a poor loser.
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Yes,it was a dirty play.
but,I still won't trash Lebron.the refs are calling the finals without getting in the way with too many calls-more old school which inevitably is more physical and,at times,crosses the line.I prefer hoops like this-a bit rougher,but the more physical play is more fun and allows for a more free flowing and interesting game.And less video replay stuff by the refs is great too.
And I am not a face book person so I could care less about what is said there 😉
I was particularly pleased with how Curry adapted to a tougher style-notwithstanding Westbrook's opinion,Curry is an excellent and very physical defender.And,he figured out how he can be incredibly effective on offense despite the rough play.
Monday should be a fun game,Rob and I would think,with a 3-1 lead GS is looking at collecting another championship so im happy for you.Perhaps,one day soon,my Knicks will be competitive in the playoffs...if they can make the playoffs...ugh!
Good luck to you and your Knicks Effie. You certainly have a mountain to climb. I don't keep up with some things............who is coaching the Knicks now? Derek Fisher is gone, correct?
I've been in the Bay area for 31 years and obviously am a big Warriors fan (and yes, I followed them when they were horrible, and that was a long, long time). But I also grew up in SoCal a Lakers fan so I watch with great interest what's going on down there.
Now that the Lakers have rid themselves of Kobe's massive ego (it's ALL about me) and $25 Mil per season (WHAT? Cut my salary so we can have a good team? Only a fool like Tim Duncan would so such a thing), it will be extremely interesting to see what moves they make via the draft and free agency. They already took a huge step towards relevancy by hiring the right coach, Luke Walton. He will command the respect of the players, and we all know how big that is in the NBA. I say they are only a few steps away from being relevant once again. GM Mitch Kupchak (former Lakers center) calls the shots. I'll be watching with great interest. That Kobe retirement "farewell tour" was sickening to watch, all about Kobe's ego. One sportswriter (can't remember who) said Duncan would never do such a thing, and I agree with him. Add one more soundbite regarding Kobe: Damian Lillard didn't make the All-Star team this year, a travesty. Kobe could have stepped down and given Lillard the spot by simply saying, "I'm not the player I once was. I got in via a sentimental vote. Let someone more deserving take my place." But anyone who knows anything about Kobe knew that was not even an option.
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Jeff Hornacek was officially named the Knicks coach this week.Phil's triangle hovers over any coach and Hornacek wants to speed things up while"incorporating aspects of the triangle".I'm hopeful free agency and trades lead to some change.Carmelo had his most well rounded year,played excellent defense and led Knicks in rebounding scoring and either led or was second in assists on the team.Kristops Porzingis is a massive talent.With a good point(Rondo?) and a few more pieces we could make the playoffs in a weak eastern conference.
The Lakers are interesting.Last year was a total waste for their younger players.They need some solid veterans thriugh free agency and hopefully,Jim Buss lets Kupchack make all basketball decisions.Yes,Kobe is a huge ego and his last year was generally disgraceful albeit fun and entertaining-particularly his last game when he scored 60.For me the message of that game is you can have great fun watching him chuck up all those shots while acknowledging that he's a disgrace to game!
Fun and disgrace-quite a mix. 😉
Cleveland has no shot at winning if Lebron isn't looking to score. I also liked the officiating last night.
Cleveland has no shot at winning if Lebron isn't looking to score. I also liked the officiating last night.
Agree big time about the officiating.
Lebron,Kyrie would be best off focusing on defense and moving the ball and limiting in a major way the isolation crap.The ball needs to move around.Also,Lue has been awful-in press conferences and how he handled Love and worse,his in game (lack of)management.His handling of the offense its breakdown,the defense and its breakdown,substitution patterns,and the minutes played by stars.He,unlike Kerr misuses his bench.Mozgov,zero minutes?Since the floor isn't spread and the stars keep shooting,Frye,Love,and 3 pt. shooters have no room to hit 3's.I can go on and on-Lue imo is not up to the task.Kerr's use of macadoo,Varejo was excellent-think of Varejo's tap back offensive rebounds-wow.Lebron and Kyrie will (and they should)get their shots but in the flow of the offense,not in isolation.Lue has lots of work-lets see how quickly he can learn on the job.In the end the Cavs may lose to a better TEAM,but they can threaten GS if they play the right way.
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on the topic of Lue & Kerr:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-steve-kerr-s-refusal-to-go-soft-on-warriors-paid-off-060100165.html
another new mvp record set by curry. first nba mvp to score only 2 points in a half not counting a player leaving the court for injury or pulled due to a big lead.
Warriors 108 Cleveland 97. Curry: 38 points. Kiss my ass, matt05.
And for LeBron: You're a punk assh*le and a sore loser.
what does that have to do with curry setting a record for being terrible in a prior game? if a QB throws 11 INTs in a single game and the next game throws 12 TDs that doesn't negate the terrible game
Green suspended. He really seems obsessed with opponents junk. Cheap.
what does that have to do with curry setting a record for being terrible in a prior game? if a QB throws 11 INTs in a single game and the next game throws 12 TDs that doesn't negate the terrible game
And when the Warriors win the NBA championship for the second consecutive year, you'll still focus on one bad half of basketball. You're really grasping at straws, dude. And BTW, after 2 points in the first half of game 3, he ended up with 18 or 19 points. And you call that a "bad game". For Curry, yes. Not for anyone else.
Green suspended. He really seems obsessed with opponents junk. Cheap.
He kicked Steven Adams in the balls. THAT was cheap. LeBron stepped over him, he simply tried to get up. It was incidental contact. But I think by that point, the NBA had about enough of him.
Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News had some great perspective on Green this morning, and he wrote this even before the suspension:
"Meanwhile, James seemed more unhappy about what Green said to him during the game than the half-punch; it clearly seemed to be a playground taunt.
Green gets people mad and messes with their comfort level; it's how he motivates himself, it's the instability he loves to create, and when he's mad, he's very good.
So are the Warriors, as they again displayed Friday night.
But all this furor and anger builds and builds and now Green has created this reputation for himself.
Green might find a way to knock a key player in the groin and then do it again.
He's unrelenting, he tests everybody's limits. He can test the Warriors players and coaches, too.
Whether they're mad at him or in step with him or both at the same time, when Draymond talks and slams into opponents, the Warriors get energized.
But Green can be a lot to handle for both opponents and his own team, and he can cross the line, at just about any moment."
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what does that have to do with curry setting a record for being terrible in a prior game? if a QB throws 11 INTs in a single game and the next game throws 12 TDs that doesn't negate the terrible game
And when the Warriors win the NBA championship for the second consecutive year, you'll still focus on one bad half of basketball. You're really grasping at straws, dude. And BTW, after 2 points in the first half of game 3, he ended up with 18 or 19 points. And you call that a "bad game". For Curry, yes. Not for anyone else.
Green suspended. He really seems obsessed with opponents junk. Cheap.
[/quote}He kicked Steven Adams in the balls. THAT was cheap. LeBron stepped over him, he simply tried to get up. It was incidental contact. But I think by that point, the NBA had about enough of him.
Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News had some great perspective on Green this morning, and he wrote this even before the suspension:
"Meanwhile, James seemed more unhappy about what Green said to him during the game than the half-punch; it clearly seemed to be a playground taunt.
Green gets people mad and messes with their comfort level; it's how he motivates himself, it's the instability he loves to create, and when he's mad, he's very good.
So are the Warriors, as they again displayed Friday night.
But all this furor and anger builds and builds and now Green has created this reputation for himself.
Green might find a way to knock a key player in the groin and then do it again.
He's unrelenting, he tests everybody's limits. He can test the Warriors players and coaches, too.
Whether they're mad at him or in step with him or both at the same time, when Draymond talks and slams into opponents, the Warriors get energized.
But Green can be a lot to handle for both opponents and his own team, and he can cross the line, at just about any moment."
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well lets see what happens. right now there is no clear finals mvp for the the warriors and I believe espn said if curry isn't finals mvp he will be the first multi regular season mvp and multi nba champ who hasn't won a finals mvp. right now curry is averaging 21ppg, was only 16ppg through the first 3 games, and 4.5 turnovers a game in the finals and after leading the team in steals this season curry only is averaging 1 steal a game in the finals
It was incidental contact.
You can't honestly believe that? Nothing incidental about his attempt at a bagging. It was very targeted for "incidental". To not see it for what it was is denial. It's cool as you are backing your team. I get that. But........
I have no horse in the race but I know what I saw. Obviously lots of others including the league saw it too.
Lebron disrespected him with the step over. No doubt. But Green is cheap. It is war so he tried. Got caught. Again.
His explanation that his leg has a mind of it's own is as weak of an excuse as has ever been given.
Good player and intense which I like but needs to stay away from the junk.
It was incidental contact.
You can't honestly believe that? Nothing incidental about his attempt at a bagging. It was very targeted for "incidental". To not see it for what it was is denial. It's cool as you are backing your team. I get that. But........
I have no horse in the race but I know what I saw. Obviously lots of others including the league saw it too.
Lebron disrespected him with the step over. No doubt. But Green is cheap. It is war so he tried. Got caught. Again.
His explanation that his leg has a mind of it's own is as weak of an excuse as has ever been given.
Good player and intense which I like but needs to stay away from the junk.
i agree. i can't believe people think green isn't a dirty player.
