Totally agree..I just happened to listen to that show on YouTube last week..Have a new appreciation for some of those W L or D songs...great solo by Dickie on Can't Lose What you Never Had

Evening folks,

I find myself listening to this one often. The second half of that show especially stands out for me, just keeps picking up steam heading into WP. Always in the rotation

I saw them that week for Thanksgiving.

I saw them the next month for NYE.

Listening to this show, too, and it's pretty solid. I haven't heard a lot of the Win Lose or Draw material live so it's a cool listen. A lot of those tracks from 1975 Bakersfield show on Wipe the Windows are some of my favorites, even though they aren't spoken of fondly.

I do have a pair of tunes from the out of print Alive Down South compilation* and both pretty abysmal - Gregg is all over the place and Dickey doesn't even bother to play slide on "Statesboro Blues"

*the rest of the aLive Down South is pretty solid, some great Sea Level tunes and Elvin Bishop at his best. The highlight being "Hot Lanta" with Chuck closing it out with "Little Martha" solo

http://www.amazon.com/Alive-Down-South-Stillwater/dp/B000005CFD

1. Out On A Limb - Stillwater
2. Mind-Bender - Stillwater
3. Take It Off The Top - Dixie Dregs
4. Macon Bacon - Dixie Dregs
5. Stealin' Watermelons - Elvin Bishop
6. Going Fishin - Elvin Bishop
7. Grits Ain't Groceries - Wet Willie
8. Everything That' Cha Do - Wet Willie
9. Take Out Some Insurance - Sea Level
10. Tidal Wave - Sea Level
11. Statesboro Blues - Allman Brothers Band
12. One Way Out - Allman Brothers Band
13. Hot 'Lanta Jam/Little Martha - Sea Level & Friends

Listening to this show, too, and it's pretty solid. I haven't heard a lot of the Win Lose or Draw material live so it's a cool listen.

You may want to try the thanksgiving show from that week,or better,get the 1976 show from the one to one benefit concert which was a live broadcast on fm radio.In addition to a superb opening set from MTB,this is IMO,the finest live performance of the WL or D material I've heard.

Loved that era and even in 75 the band displayed magic . Gregg's voice had the power but lost some of the soul and sweetness that he wouldn't recover until the mid 80's. Even when he started taking care of his voice again he would never be able to replicate what he originally had in the late 60's and early 70's. Whether they were communicating or not, once The Brothers hit the stage nothing mattered but the music . I still would love to see Chuck do some shows with Gregg . The cool part of the Fox show last year was having Jack and Chuck playing with Gregg , Warren and Derek at the beginning of the night. Still so bitter not to see Dickey involved in these types of shows or Wanee or Peach Fest.

I hear you dadof2. Dickey Betts was a huge part of the original Allman Brothers and it's success after Duane died. To have the last 14 years of the ABB unfold without Dickey and no Dickey at these special shows is as shocking in many ways as not involving Berry Oakley during that time if he were still alive. It's as if they tried to write Dickey out of the history of the band.

I know they continued to play his songs but that was not the original intent. Butch Trucks posted here in 2001 that they were working toward removing all Betts material from the sets. That they are shedding completely Dickey's influence on the band as returning to the original starting point where Gregg sang everything and there was no Dickey songs. And that is indeed the way it is on the first album released in 1969. And it seems by 2003 most of Dickey's material was gone and some shows had NO Dickey songs at all.

I know Dickey had become a dictator in the band and either he got his way or he was going to quit or would threatened to beat up someone and Gregg said as the years went by it became more and more apparent that Dickey just didn't fit in with the band. Gregg said he got so bad having to work with Dickey for a variety of reasons that he (Gregg) was leaving the band in 2000. Butch also was going to quit but due to conversation between their wives, the found out each other was leaving the ABB so they called Jaimoe and explained they were done with Dickey and the band so to save the summer 2000 tour, Jaimoe agreed to vote with them against Dickey. But Jaimoe would not agree to a firing but a summer suspension. But when Dickey filed papers with a lawyer, Jaimoe agreed to make the split permanent saying "Dickey hired a law and is suing so he quit the band". Jaimoe told Gregg and Butch when they contacted him that he could not agree with a firing and that the only way to leave the ABB as an original member is to quit or die.

Yes it was a shocking and gutsy move but with Warren and Derek on the twin guitars they had some great shows. But for an old fan as myself, with none of the original front line guys there, it did seem like a tribute band just a little. Dickey was sorely missed by me and gee I still miss Duane and Berry. Now I miss them all.

An Allman Brothers Band without Dickey is much like the Rolling Stones without Keith Richards. I figured in a few years things would cool off and Dickey would be back. But apparently Butch continues to detest Dickey and Dickey has no use for Butch and Gregg. Warren Haynes admitted in an interview last year when he said he had talked to Dickey on the phone, the Gregg and Dickey had not spoken to each other in well over a decade.

That is sad for fans who only knew the joy of listening to Blue Sky and Mellisa on Eat a Peach but never knew these guys didn't really enjoy and like each other. Lack of communication and tension between Gregg and Dickey after Duane died is well known and went on for 30 years. It must have been they were all there because of Duane and after he left, they wanted to continue the ABB but they didn't really care for each other. Gregg and Butch were never close and Butch would trash Gregg in the press at times (Circus magazine 1976 "You can't depend on Gregg for anything".... and today I wonder if there is not some tension between them.

But there isn't the slightest doubt. Dickey Betts' sound was huge and as important to the ABB as that of Gregg Allman. And probably more so than Butch but that sound he and Jaimoe came up with was also a key ingredient to the band's great sound. So it really hard to say. It's still just shocking at times that we had 14 years of the ABB without Dickey. But Derek and especially Warren would throw in lots of Duane and Dickey licks to make the band sound similar to having Duane and Dickey in the band.

I was at this show and you know how much I actually remember of it, very little. I was 16 years old tripping my brains out and I can remember bits of the adventure of going but as far as specific musical memory, not much. Which always strikes me as funny on message boards that nobody ever really says that. Some people listen to tapes of shows they were at and act like they remember it all like it was yesterday.

Butch Trucks posted here in 2001 that he was working toward removing all Betts material from the sets. That they are shedding completely Dickey's influence on the band as returning to the original starting point where Gregg sang everything and there was no Dickey songs.

Fixed that... 😉