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Jaimoe's Jasssss Band and the Neville's July 4th Atlantic City..............WOWEEEEZOWEEEE.
Happy Thursday everyone! Sending love and peace and joy your way. Looking forward to seeing the Best Damn Band In The Land and as many of the family here as soon as I can!
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What the hell is going on here?
This is as bad as - if not worse than - the flaming that occurred when ABB and DB parted ways. (Ooops! Shouldn't have mentioned that! The whole thing could flare up again.)
Here's an idea: Let's tear each other apart. And while we're at it, let's also drag Brother Butch into the fray. Make sure he never posts here again. Because having an actual member of the band join us from time-to-time really isn't all that cool. Happens all the time. I hear his people practically have to pry the keyboard out of Eric Clapton's hands. And Keith Richards? The only way he stops posting is when his security people handcuff and gag him and lock him in his room.
When did this concept that you have to make sure you dot every "i" and cross every "t" or someone will take you to task start?
As a healthcare professional, to those trying to educate about Brother Gregg's condition: Thank you and keep up the good work. I appreciate your intent. If we ("We" = members of the extened family. Remember that concept? Supporting each other? Not trying to outdo the other person.) could stop and listen and not find fault we might all learn something.
Me? I'm going to go listen to Eat A Peach, and stay away for a while until this all blows over.
I wish Gregg the best. I hope he takes the year off to fully recuperate and we don't see him until March '09 at the Beacon. He deserves it. Then maybe we'll appreciate what we have.
Everyone else: EAPFP
Is there not a Hep C thread in the forum?
Please let's keep this GB to music as Lana & Rowland intended...We are all drowning!
Please don't take this as wicked insensitivity to the victims...but some here are not infected, maybe...but after all these posts though I think I now have Hep C.
I, like everyone here, respect Bird on this subject. He definitely is the expert on this subject, having educated himself fully...please visit the forum and ask your questons to him there. Oh, and y'all know Rick is the expert on everything else...ask him anything you want, you'll see/knows all *smile*.
I guess Butch should run for office...then we can all discuss politics.
Lana, Is there a music site around here...somewhere? I just want to talk music, man.
And sometimes I fall into the trap of paraphrasing info from articles, and trying to convey a Readers digest synopsis for the realitively uniformed average person. I will stick to publishing article reprints in the Forum and letting people read for themselves, as I have also done all along.
I won't post Hep C info on the GB any more, since I know the nurse expert RickT is gunning for me.
Rick, you really are so full of it....
Your attack on me was mocking my research techniques and information sources. You have likely NEVER read the multitude of articles on Hep C in the Forum thread.
I never in my life expected an attack on trying to provide Hep C info.
And RickT, you really are wrong on your big Hep C is sexually transmitted stance. It can be, but it is yes, effin' RARE, except in high risk sex activities.
Having said that, unless in a long term monogamous relationship, practice safe sex. And for bigger risks than Hep C, but yes, for all transmitted diseases.
Sometimes I really hate this place, time for a vacation, who needs this.
Pam, while that point is true, the explanation behind how it "may" be transmitted sexually needs to be made. Blood to blood is the medium. NOT blood to semen, not semen to vaginal fluid.... blood is always the transmission medium. But YES, it can be transmitted sexually under certain conditions.
I have no idea what you want out of me and don't care Rick, you are twisting my words and playing some egophuck game, I don't want to play. You WIN, how is that?
Rick it is indeed "Rarely" transmitted in normal monogamous sexual relationships. If you can't understand that, and the data that supports that, so be it also.
How is Hepatitis C transmitted?
Hepatitis C is transmitted by blood and blood products, e.g. intravenous drug use by sharing of needles and syringes; small cuts caused, for example, by razors, etc. Before the introduction of blood screening tests in 1992, hepatitis C was also transmitted by blood transfusions. It is rarely transmitted sexually, if at all. Most infected people do not notice that they have the disease as symptoms are rare. If they occur, they are unspecific and include fatigue, occasional stomach-aches and headaches.
From Roche laboratories website.
Sexual Transmission
Sexual transmission of hepatitis C between monogamous partners appears to be uncommon. Surveys of spouses and monogamous sexual partners of patients with hepatitis C show that fewer than 5 percent are infected with HCV, and many of these have other risk factors for this infection. Spread of hepatitis C to a spouse or partner in stable, monogamous relationships occurs in less than 1 percent of partners per year. For these reasons, changes in sexual practices are not recommended for monogamous patients. Testing sexual partners for anti-HCV can help with patient counseling. People with multiple sex partners should be advised to follow safe sex practices, which should protect against hepatitis C as well as hepatitis B, HIV, and other sexually transmitted diseases
From National Digestive Diseases Information Clearinghouse website
feel free to post less.
The Mayo clinic site states:
In rare cases, hepatitis C may be transmitted sexually. And in many people infected with hepatitis C, no risk factor can be identified.
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Mayo is pretty well known for a reference, so I am just doing the copy & paste, but really no matter where you look it is worded the same.
Anyway, unprotected sex is risky no matter how you look at it!
Bird, as I said, I have no dog in this hunt, AND, I made it very clear I respect your passion and contributions. And I also know you and others here are overly sensitive about Hep C.
I take issue with pointing out a concern I have, based upon your own words. Your inference to "rare" is the point here. Obviously, you dont understand my point. Let me help you here:
As a nurse, I dont tell patients that disease transmission is "rare", in particular kids. I dont educate patients that lung cancer from smoking is "rare". I state the facts. If you smoke you are AT RISK for cancer. If you share needles, you are AT RISK for Hep C. If you have HIV, you are AT RISK for Hep C. Get the point?? "Rare" to some equals OK, and I have a huge issue with that.
I think I understand your agenda; to offer support to those infected, and offer awareness. Good, then take it to the next level and speak to all risk factors AS EQUAL. One risk is no more or less dangerous as the other. As a clinician, I would appreciate your support of this perspective, and get away from opinions that actually can do more harn to the truly uninformed than saying nothing. If that hurts your feelings I am sorry. I am not attacking your passion or the good you do here. People listen to you more than they do me, so get it right. Any nurse or MD would agree with me on this because its clinical 101...we dont tell patients any behavior is more or less risky....all risks are bad and put the uninfected in danger.
I hope you and the others here can take this in the spirit it is delivered. If not, then so be it. That is in part why I dont post here too much anymore. Its too much work and everyone wears their feelings on their shoulder.
Keep up the good work bird and all the best.
Hi, Not to butt into your conversation, Bird I have read some of your postings and it is good stuff, I have learned a lot, so thanks for keeping it real.
Jess
Pam, I didn't realize Kim's situation was out there. He has weighed heavily on me since Callahan. I have no idea what is best for someone else, but it sure is nice to see his smile in our town. We thought it would be the same with Callahan. Maybe selfish on my part...but I want them all to be OK.
I'm feeling way overdrawn at the Karma Bank...in bad need of a H&H trip. I think I could eat everything on their menu.
Need a laugh -
Butt Cut in Mooning Mishap
UTRECHT, Netherlands (AP) -- A young Dutch man is the butt of his own joke, after trying to moon a restaurant. Police report the 21-year-old pressed his bare rear end against a window and the glass broke.
The young man lacerated his behind and was treated at a nearby hospital. According to authorities, the injured prankster was one of three running down a street with their pants down.
The trio have agreed to pay for the broken window. And the cafe owner has decided not to press charges.
That must have been some fart!!
Deb - you are totally right. What a lot of people fail to understand is that unless you've actually undergone treatment yourself, you really do not know what it's like. Although doctors study the virus and treat people for the virus, they've never actually been treated FOR the virus. That is where Tony comes in as the voice of experience. And when treatment is over you just do not bounce right back. I saw Tony at different intervals after he completed treatment. And I can tell you that he finally was in top shape mentally and physically only about a YEAR after he completed his treatment. It is no walk in the park, and unless you've actually had to endure it yourself or watch and/or support someone go through it you really couldn't even begin to guess what it takes and what it does to you. Tony is an expert by experience and by example.
Bird has taught most of us a great deal about HepC. You can have your own opinions, BUT I tend to believe someone who has persoanlly experienced it. Most times they have more knoweldge then medical "professionals".
Thank you, Tony !!!!!
& no offense to anyone here...but, those who are infected sexually,besides blood,menstrual or irration or whatever as causes,there still remains insufficient proof & data to determine a causal relationship--thus,blood is the only known proven method of transmission--every illness,physical or emotional comes with individual or clusters of unknowns & rarities....but there is a basic agreed upon approach--enough said--long winded to say Bird72 is right on in all he's doing--way ahead on this than many docs i know & work with...
ya can read all of this or skip to,i think,the 3rd paragraph from the bottom....
http://www.hepatitis-central.com/mt/archives/2007/04/heterosexual_mo.html
i got no interest in fighting with anyone,but Bird72 is correct on transmission--no brainer....
Agree with what Pam has said. Tony has done an excellent job on this site with HepC education (both through GB postings and in his thread). I would also mention that I have a few friends who are affected by this disease but I wouldn't dream of using their names in a public forum posting on the topic - that would need to be something for them and them alone. I posted the info re: types of Hepatitis because I've had experience with people who've been all over the alphabet with hepatitis and have researched differences previously out of my own curiousity so thought I'd share what I learned due to questions being asked. I only know a chapter or 2 ... Tony has pretty much read the whole book.