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rusty, bird, that really sucks...but...2800 plus people...probably 2700 or more just diggin it and havin fun...at my lone beacon show, I had the NYC ecstacy boys ( 8 in all) being about as ignorant and inconsiderate as one could be..NYC Barb said"they will be zonked by the second set.."..she was right...all in all , NYC , like most places, has great people..A******* are everywhere..when they are intoxicated, it just shines a light on what they already are...