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Ahem...Gregg made the final decision and probably suggested it, from all I heard...and hes the one who sent the fax to Dickey. ...maybe you'd care to take this to email or IM? As so not to bore everyone ::chuckles:: or just discontinue the argument. ::shrugs:: Don't misunderstand...I adore Gregg and the whole ABB...I just hurt for Dickey. And the rest I already wrote...Duane would never have allowed it.