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Karen (Big Six Peach Head), Aren't you from the Six Nations? Jack, the Cates were a very good band. I saw then open for the Outlaws, I think, at Shippensburg State in Pa. back in my college days. Their Asylum records are collector's items-if you've got 'em, hang on to 'em. I'm pretty sure they put out a new record fairly recently-you might want to check the record reviews at gritz.com. I'm pretty sure they reviewed it not too long ago. That's gritz.NET. Sorry about that.