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Black Sabbath - November 16, 1969 - Dumfries, Scotland - **Earliest Live Black Sabbath Recording!* *

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les_paul_sunburst
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Some of you here may remember me as being a pretty regular viner for the last few years. But, I kind of fell away from it a couple years ago after offering up around 150 shows during my tenure here.

And I have to admit that I do miss it a bit. Vining is a great way to share music and in fact, I preferred it to actively trading which just does not fit into my available free time anymore. With vining, the main time expense involves announcing it, burning the show and then sending it out. After that, most of the time, it then takes care of itself.

Recently, I've started hanging out on DIME again, just for fun, and just to watch for that "special" show that I just had to have .

Last weekend I struck gold.

I am a huge Black Sabbath fan. Huge. How huge? Black Sabbath -Paranoid/The Wizard was the very first 45 that I ever owned. Black Sabbath -Paranoid was the very first album that I ever owned. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality was the second. Black Sabbath was the band that introduced me to this wonderful world of music, a pleasant obsession that has nurtured me and sustained me now for decades.

I owe them big time.

This show is special for several reasons. First, it is the earliest known show with the original lineup as Black Sabbath. Previously, they were known as Earth and were pretty much a Cream influenced blues rock outfit. Second, the date for this show is very close to the release of their debut album. As such, a good portion of their set is still the original blues rock material along with some of the new album material that featured their developing, soon to be widely known more "heavy" style. Third, up until a week or so ago, this was pretty much an inner circle show, with outside fans like myself having very little chance of hearing it.

It is hard for me to be objective about this show, so let me just say that if you are a hard core Sabbath fan, you will probably need to have it. If you are a more casual fan that enjoys the debut album, it will be definitely worth your while as well.

The sound isn't perfect, but is still quite listenable, considering its age, and that there was some deterioration from the original source reel.

If you are a hard core fan like myself, it is more than listenable and nothing short of a revelation.

Enjoy!

******************************************************************************

Original downloader's notes:

It is with great pleasure to be finally sharing this with the Dime Community. If you're even remotely familiar with Sabbath Recordings you'll know that this is one of the Holy Grails. For those unaware, this recording, as far as I know, is the earliest live document of Black Sabbath. A simple thanks will suffice, however if you'd like to get in touch with me, I can be reached here on Dime.

I can only hope that by sharing this, it will inspire others who have any uncirculated recordings to share theirs with the community and let us as fans enjoy the music. This is dedicated to all those Dimers (Past and Present) who have shared their recordings over the years and especially to those who have shared uncirculated material (You know who you are!).
This is actually a very enjoyable recording and provides an example of the type of show the band known as Earth would have played and their transition into one of the most important bands in history, Black Sabbath!

***************************************************************************
Black Sabbath
Rugman's Youth Club
Dumfries, Scotland
November 16, 1969

Taper: Alex Wilson

Lineage: Grundig Dynamic Mic -> Grundig Reel To Reel @ 3 and 3/4 IPS -> ? -> CDR -> FLAC

Running Time: 62 Minutes

Track List:

01 Black Sabbath (Cuts In) 01:23
02 Let Me Love You Baby 05:03
03 Song For Jim/Bill Ward Drum Solo 10:52
04 The Warning 18:16
05 Wicked World 05:30
06 Behind the Wall of Sleep 05:01
07 Early Morning School 04:53
08 N.I.B. 05:08
09 Blue Blooded Man 06:20

Band:

Vocals: Ozzy Osbourne
Guitar & Flute: Tony Iommi
Bass: Geezer Butler
Drums: Bill Ward

Alex Wilson's Original Notes:

The night of Sunday, 16th November 1969 at Rugman's Youth Club changed my life. I'd never heard a band play with such power or heavy riffs before, and it actually made me start my own band!

I'll start off by describing Rugman’s - it's like standing in a small section of railway tunnel. There were stages at both ends, possibly about 20 yards long with walls curving onto the ceiling. The stage Sabbath played on was about 2 foot high. There were no fancy stage lights, just one red bulb overhead and all the other room lights were out! There was about a crowd of 80 to 100 of an average age around 16 years, so there was no alcohol. It is worth noting that there was NO swearing from Ozzy, possibly because there were kids present and maybe his Dumfries girlfriend as well, a girl named Gillian McQueen.

The acoustics were quite good if there was a crowd in. The show was recorded at the far stage from where the Sabs played, using one Grundig dynamic mic (thus making the tape just monaural). There was no automatic level setting on the mike then, so there are fluctuations in the recording level, as well as the inevitable bits of tape dropout considering the age of the tape originally used. During the music solos, you can hear the crowd chatting and discussing the evening, due to the obvious fact that they were standing between the mike and the band.

The original tape was recorded on a Grundig reel to reel at 3 and 3/4 ips. I used to record every Amplified Heat show, so my equipment was there. Towards the end of the seventies, the tape began to fall apart. God knows when the original tape used was manufactured! But I did manage to transfer the recording to another reel to reel. Sabbath played 2 sets that night, but I was so gobsmacked that I didn't record the first set!

Sabbath's equipment set-up that night was as follows: Ozzy sang through a Vox 100 watt P.A. amplifier via 2 Vox columns with four 10" speakers in each of them! Geezer and Tony had a Laney stack each with two 4 x 12" speaker cabinets each, but amazingly their Laney amp heads were only 60 watts (one amp per stack)! Bill's kit consisted of 1 bass drum, one hanging tom, one floor tom, one snare, and a hi hat!!

The tape lasts approximately 62 minutes and the running order is as follows:

1. Black Sabbath: I managed to get the last minute and half of this song.

2. Let Me Love You Baby: This is a fast jazz-blues song that I'm sure Jeff Beck/Rod Stewart did on their first LP. It lasts just under 5 minutes, but sadly suffers from a bit of volume drop out for 20 seconds in the last minute of the song. Otherwise, it's brilliant. This was the end of their first set of the evening. Ozzy announces that they’ll have a half-hour break at this point in the show. [Editors note: This song is actually a Buddy Guy song that was later covered by many artists including the Jeff Beck Group and Stevie Ray Vaughan. The original tape loses volume towards the end of the song, but this has been fixed...]

3. "A Song For Jim" / Bill Ward's Drum Solo / "A Song For Jim" [reprise]: The second set starts off with a flute and drum solo section featuring Tony Iommi on flute! This segues into Bill Ward soloing with his tiny kit! This section lasts approx 11 minutes and has a jazzy flute part in the middle that sounds like something out of the Pink Panther! [Editor's note - Although Alex had originally listed this one as just a "Flute & Drum solo", it immediately occurred to me that Tony was actually playing the melody for "A Song For Jim"! Upon closer inspection, I realized that Geezer was playing as well, so this is actually a live version of the song so many collectors have been clawing for. While we've only heard a smidgen of the unreleased demo for this song on the BLACK SABBATH STORY - VOLUME 1 video, we get to hear quite a bit more here. This rarely heard song sandwiches a rather lengthy Bill Ward drum solo and a short flute interlude from Tony. The complete running time of this track is 11:01.]

4. The Warning: After a small break of 30 seconds the fourth track is "Warning", lasting 17 minutes and 45 seconds. There are slight bits of volume dips and tape dropout during this number, which is otherwise very good quality. [Editor's note - This rendition of "The Warning" contains a few extra sections that were likely cut from the studio version, making this a nice opportunity to hear what may have been extracted. You can tell the audience is getting rather restless by the 15 minute mark, so it was probably wise to edit this one for the album. There is a small cut towards the end of the song, but is probably missing only a minute or so.]

5. Wicked World: The next song is "Wicked World", lasting 5 minutes 30 seconds. This features a jazzy section between verses 1 and 2 that’s not on the single version. I don’t know if it's been on any other recordings or not. There's a severe jump in the volume during the instrumental section leading to the last verse. God knows what caused that! You can hear Bill counting in the ending...

6. Behind The Wall Of Sleep: Next up is "Behind The Wall Of Sleep" at just under 5 minutes. The last 70 seconds features a fast jazz blues section, which I don’t remember on the original release. [Editor's note – This includes the same jazzy section that can also be heard on Paris ’70, John Peel’s Sunday Show 4/26/70 and Koln 4/3/70. This leads me to believe that the band originally intended that section to be part of the song. The studio version ends just before they would ordinarily kick into the jazz vamp.]

7. "Early One Morning" [a.k.a.Early Morning School]: The seventh track is a fast blues/boogie, which I believe they called "Early Warning School". I don’t have the announcement on tape, but I seem to recall that was the title they said. But I'm going back 35 years here to remember this! It lasts just under 5 minutes. Very good. [Editor's note – Sorry for the previous confusion on the title. David Rostowsky pointed out that this is more than likely a cover of the Elmore James song "Early One Morning", with slightly butchered lyrics!]

8. N.I.B.: The eighth track is "NIB" at just over 5 minutes long. This is the one that changed my musical outlook and encouraged me to start my own band. [Editor's note - "N.I.B." has different lyrics!! The 'chorus' sections ("My love for you has got to be real") are the same, but the verses are completely different.]

9. Blue Blood Man: The last track and the encore for the night is called "Blue Blood Man". It’s a fast blues/boogie that showcases Tony doing his Alvin Lee impersonation (via Django Reinhardt!) This lasts over 6 minutes and is great!

I spoke to the band after the show when they were packing their gear into their old Transit. I asked Tony why he had left Jethro Tull after even being on Top Of The Pops. T.O.T.P. was the ultimate pinnacle in those days, for you knew you'd arrived if you got on it. He told me he'd "Rather play with my mates. Jethro Tull are weird!" I can also remember my flared trousers flapping in the wind from the volume of the show when I was standing in front of the stage! I met the band another 3 times in the very early 70's and they always remembered the times they played in Dumfries. I'm sure there are more Dumfries dates for your timeline, which I'll try and find out for you.

******************************************************************************
**Sal , and any known vine killers are not eligible for this offer**

**Please do not take a spot unless you are willing to re-seed if
needed. **

**Please update the vine with your IN and OUT date to keep it current
for all**

I do request that #1 be here in the U.S. After that. all are
welcome....

And as always...thank you to everyone here who shares the music...

This vine is offered up in memory of HughDuty

[Edited on 9/20/2015 by les_paul_sunburst]


 
Posted : September 20, 2015 5:26 am
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This looks awesome! I would sign up but will have to wait, won't be around. Have been listening to early Sabbath of late, I was a late arrival to the Sabbath, hit me in the late 90's... they just scared me when I was a kid.

Mostly checkin in to say, ALRIGHT ! A Lespaulsunburst vine! About time! you can't go wrong. vine on , vine on


 
Posted : September 20, 2015 11:18 am
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Hey welcome back. I'm like Brer, I will have to wait and fall in line. Heading north to do some salmon fishing and don't want to hold this one up. I will be signing up. Big Sabbath fan from their first album through Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. I remember my mom liking Fluff off that album and I'm thinking boy Mom if you only knew and she didn't look at the album cover of that one. I would have been saying a dozen Hail Mary's.

You always offered the good stuff my friend. Sorry for the commentary on a vine. Excited to hear this one.


 
Posted : September 20, 2015 4:56 pm
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bump


 
Posted : September 24, 2015 6:53 am
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Welcome Back, always enjoy reading your post and missed them.
Thanks again for all your excellent vines, good to see you back.
all the best & peace ~


 
Posted : September 28, 2015 5:41 am
JDLPIRATE
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Posts: 76
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Some of you here may remember me as being a pretty regular viner for the last few years. But, I kind of fell away from it a couple years ago after offering up around 150 shows during my tenure here.

And I have to admit that I do miss it a bit. Vining is a great way to share music and in fact, I preferred it to actively trading which just does not fit into my available free time anymore. With vining, the main time expense involves announcing it, burning the show and then sending it out. After that, most of the time, it then takes care of itself.

Recently, I've started hanging out on DIME again, just for fun, and just to watch for that "special" show that I just had to have .

Last weekend I struck gold.

I am a huge Black Sabbath fan. Huge. How huge? Black Sabbath -Paranoid/The Wizard was the very first 45 that I ever owned. Black Sabbath -Paranoid was the very first album that I ever owned. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality was the second. Black Sabbath was the band that introduced me to this wonderful world of music, a pleasant obsession that has nurtured me and sustained me now for decades.

I owe them big time.

This show is special for several reasons. First, it is the earliest known show with the original lineup as Black Sabbath. Previously, they were known as Earth and were pretty much a Cream influenced blues rock outfit. Second, the date for this show is very close to the release of their debut album. As such, a good portion of their set is still the original blues rock material along with some of the new album material that featured their developing, soon to be widely known more "heavy" style. Third, up until a week or so ago, this was pretty much an inner circle show, with outside fans like myself having very little chance of hearing it.

It is hard for me to be objective about this show, so let me just say that if you are a hard core Sabbath fan, you will probably need to have it. If you are a more casual fan that enjoys the debut album, it will be definitely worth your while as well.

The sound isn't perfect, but is still quite listenable, considering its age, and that there was some deterioration from the original source reel.

If you are a hard core fan like myself, it is more than listenable and nothing short of a revelation.

Enjoy!

******************************************************************************

Original downloader's notes:

It is with great pleasure to be finally sharing this with the Dime Community. If you're even remotely familiar with Sabbath Recordings you'll know that this is one of the Holy Grails. For those unaware, this recording, as far as I know, is the earliest live document of Black Sabbath. A simple thanks will suffice, however if you'd like to get in touch with me, I can be reached here on Dime.

I can only hope that by sharing this, it will inspire others who have any uncirculated recordings to share theirs with the community and let us as fans enjoy the music. This is dedicated to all those Dimers (Past and Present) who have shared their recordings over the years and especially to those who have shared uncirculated material (You know who you are!).
This is actually a very enjoyable recording and provides an example of the type of show the band known as Earth would have played and their transition into one of the most important bands in history, Black Sabbath!

***************************************************************************
Black Sabbath
Rugman's Youth Club
Dumfries, Scotland
November 16, 1969

Taper: Alex Wilson

Lineage: Grundig Dynamic Mic -> Grundig Reel To Reel @ 3 and 3/4 IPS -> ? -> CDR -> FLAC

Running Time: 62 Minutes

Track List:

01 Black Sabbath (Cuts In) 01:23
02 Let Me Love You Baby 05:03
03 Song For Jim/Bill Ward Drum Solo 10:52
04 The Warning 18:16
05 Wicked World 05:30
06 Behind the Wall of Sleep 05:01
07 Early Morning School 04:53
08 N.I.B. 05:08
09 Blue Blooded Man 06:20

Band:

Vocals: Ozzy Osbourne
Guitar & Flute: Tony Iommi
Bass: Geezer Butler
Drums: Bill Ward

Alex Wilson's Original Notes:

The night of Sunday, 16th November 1969 at Rugman's Youth Club changed my life. I'd never heard a band play with such power or heavy riffs before, and it actually made me start my own band!

I'll start off by describing Rugman’s - it's like standing in a small section of railway tunnel. There were stages at both ends, possibly about 20 yards long with walls curving onto the ceiling. The stage Sabbath played on was about 2 foot high. There were no fancy stage lights, just one red bulb overhead and all the other room lights were out! There was about a crowd of 80 to 100 of an average age around 16 years, so there was no alcohol. It is worth noting that there was NO swearing from Ozzy, possibly because there were kids present and maybe his Dumfries girlfriend as well, a girl named Gillian McQueen.

The acoustics were quite good if there was a crowd in. The show was recorded at the far stage from where the Sabs played, using one Grundig dynamic mic (thus making the tape just monaural). There was no automatic level setting on the mike then, so there are fluctuations in the recording level, as well as the inevitable bits of tape dropout considering the age of the tape originally used. During the music solos, you can hear the crowd chatting and discussing the evening, due to the obvious fact that they were standing between the mike and the band.

The original tape was recorded on a Grundig reel to reel at 3 and 3/4 ips. I used to record every Amplified Heat show, so my equipment was there. Towards the end of the seventies, the tape began to fall apart. God knows when the original tape used was manufactured! But I did manage to transfer the recording to another reel to reel. Sabbath played 2 sets that night, but I was so gobsmacked that I didn't record the first set!

Sabbath's equipment set-up that night was as follows: Ozzy sang through a Vox 100 watt P.A. amplifier via 2 Vox columns with four 10" speakers in each of them! Geezer and Tony had a Laney stack each with two 4 x 12" speaker cabinets each, but amazingly their Laney amp heads were only 60 watts (one amp per stack)! Bill's kit consisted of 1 bass drum, one hanging tom, one floor tom, one snare, and a hi hat!!

The tape lasts approximately 62 minutes and the running order is as follows:

1. Black Sabbath: I managed to get the last minute and half of this song.

2. Let Me Love You Baby: This is a fast jazz-blues song that I'm sure Jeff Beck/Rod Stewart did on their first LP. It lasts just under 5 minutes, but sadly suffers from a bit of volume drop out for 20 seconds in the last minute of the song. Otherwise, it's brilliant. This was the end of their first set of the evening. Ozzy announces that they’ll have a half-hour break at this point in the show. [Editors note: This song is actually a Buddy Guy song that was later covered by many artists including the Jeff Beck Group and Stevie Ray Vaughan. The original tape loses volume towards the end of the song, but this has been fixed...]

3. "A Song For Jim" / Bill Ward's Drum Solo / "A Song For Jim" [reprise]: The second set starts off with a flute and drum solo section featuring Tony Iommi on flute! This segues into Bill Ward soloing with his tiny kit! This section lasts approx 11 minutes and has a jazzy flute part in the middle that sounds like something out of the Pink Panther! [Editor's note - Although Alex had originally listed this one as just a "Flute & Drum solo", it immediately occurred to me that Tony was actually playing the melody for "A Song For Jim"! Upon closer inspection, I realized that Geezer was playing as well, so this is actually a live version of the song so many collectors have been clawing for. While we've only heard a smidgen of the unreleased demo for this song on the BLACK SABBATH STORY - VOLUME 1 video, we get to hear quite a bit more here. This rarely heard song sandwiches a rather lengthy Bill Ward drum solo and a short flute interlude from Tony. The complete running time of this track is 11:01.]

4. The Warning: After a small break of 30 seconds the fourth track is "Warning", lasting 17 minutes and 45 seconds. There are slight bits of volume dips and tape dropout during this number, which is otherwise very good quality. [Editor's note - This rendition of "The Warning" contains a few extra sections that were likely cut from the studio version, making this a nice opportunity to hear what may have been extracted. You can tell the audience is getting rather restless by the 15 minute mark, so it was probably wise to edit this one for the album. There is a small cut towards the end of the song, but is probably missing only a minute or so.]

5. Wicked World: The next song is "Wicked World", lasting 5 minutes 30 seconds. This features a jazzy section between verses 1 and 2 that’s not on the single version. I don’t know if it's been on any other recordings or not. There's a severe jump in the volume during the instrumental section leading to the last verse. God knows what caused that! You can hear Bill counting in the ending...

6. Behind The Wall Of Sleep: Next up is "Behind The Wall Of Sleep" at just under 5 minutes. The last 70 seconds features a fast jazz blues section, which I don’t remember on the original release. [Editor's note – This includes the same jazzy section that can also be heard on Paris ’70, John Peel’s Sunday Show 4/26/70 and Koln 4/3/70. This leads me to believe that the band originally intended that section to be part of the song. The studio version ends just before they would ordinarily kick into the jazz vamp.]

7. "Early One Morning" [a.k.a.Early Morning School]: The seventh track is a fast blues/boogie, which I believe they called "Early Warning School". I don’t have the announcement on tape, but I seem to recall that was the title they said. But I'm going back 35 years here to remember this! It lasts just under 5 minutes. Very good. [Editor's note – Sorry for the previous confusion on the title. David Rostowsky pointed out that this is more than likely a cover of the Elmore James song "Early One Morning", with slightly butchered lyrics!]

8. N.I.B.: The eighth track is "NIB" at just over 5 minutes long. This is the one that changed my musical outlook and encouraged me to start my own band. [Editor's note - "N.I.B." has different lyrics!! The 'chorus' sections ("My love for you has got to be real") are the same, but the verses are completely different.]

9. Blue Blood Man: The last track and the encore for the night is called "Blue Blood Man". It’s a fast blues/boogie that showcases Tony doing his Alvin Lee impersonation (via Django Reinhardt!) This lasts over 6 minutes and is great!

I spoke to the band after the show when they were packing their gear into their old Transit. I asked Tony why he had left Jethro Tull after even being on Top Of The Pops. T.O.T.P. was the ultimate pinnacle in those days, for you knew you'd arrived if you got on it. He told me he'd "Rather play with my mates. Jethro Tull are weird!" I can also remember my flared trousers flapping in the wind from the volume of the show when I was standing in front of the stage! I met the band another 3 times in the very early 70's and they always remembered the times they played in Dumfries. I'm sure there are more Dumfries dates for your timeline, which I'll try and find out for you.

******************************************************************************
**Sal , and any known vine killers are not eligible for this offer**

**Please do not take a spot unless you are willing to re-seed if
needed. **

**Please update the vine with your IN and OUT date to keep it current
for all**

I do request that #1 be here in the U.S. After that. all are
welcome....

And as always...thank you to everyone here who shares the music...

This vine is offered up in memory of HughDuty

#1 jdlpirate pmotw thanks

[Edited on 9/20/2015 by les_paul_sunburst]


 
Posted : September 28, 2015 6:19 am
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OUT to # 1 10/3

#1 jdlpirate pmotw thanks
#2
#3


 
Posted : October 3, 2015 12:11 pm
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OUT to # 1 10/3

#1 jdlpirate pmotw thanks in 10-7
#2
#3


 
Posted : October 8, 2015 3:48 am
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#1 jdlpirate pmotw thanks in 10-7
#2 bluesky4ever. Thanks for this one
#3


 
Posted : October 8, 2015 5:38 pm
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And to BrerRabbit, BlueSky4ever, and TheBabe714...

Thank you for the kind words my friends ...

Much appreciated ! Grin


 
Posted : October 10, 2015 5:46 am
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#1 jdlpirate pmotw thanks in 10-7 out 10-13
#2 bluesky4ever. Thanks for this one
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Posted : October 13, 2015 3:44 am
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#1 jdlpirate pmotw thanks in 10-7 out 10-13
#2 bluesky4ever. Thanks for this one ** in 10/23** Next
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Posted : October 23, 2015 7:26 am
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Posted : October 28, 2015 10:27 am
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#2 bluesky4ever. Thanks for this one ** in 10/23** Next
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Posted : November 6, 2015 6:25 am
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#1 jdlpirate pmotw thanks in 10-7 out 10-13
#2 bluesky4ever. Thanks for this one ** in 10/23** Next
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