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Trump: Obama is the Founder of ISIS

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alloak41
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If the MSM wants to start winning back some trust, they should stop conducting business like
they're anything besides advocates of the Democrat party. Very easy solution.

It's blatantly obvious they're rooting for the Democrat nominee, per usual. It's sad to see them
continue to undercut their own credibility. An impartial and skeptical media is one of the public's
best friends.

I don't even think YOU believe what you posted. Nothing could be so ridiculous as what you stated. You're just trying to get a rise out of anyone who thinks differently than you (current post excluded). We're not biting.

Then you're in denial.


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 12:19 pm
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From what I read, Isis was formed from Iraqi intelligence. They merged with some al Qaida forces but their tactics were too brutal and far enough away from the regular Al Qaida that even they distanced themselves from them; however, two of Osama's sons are in Isis, including one that was supposed to be in that house in Abbottabad according to the 'official story' of Seal Team Six members, but let's not go there right now.


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 12:40 pm
cyclone88
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Trump belongs in Bellevue. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

[Edited on 8/11/2016 by cyclone88]

And there you have it.

Thanks, Doctor.

You're welcome. My colleagues in the AMA agree.


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 12:54 pm
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Not to be to technical but what allowed ISIS to move from being just another terrorist group to becoming a formidable military presence in Iraq and Syria were the military officers from the Iraqi army that Bush disbanded. This is what gave ISIS its military power.


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 1:11 pm
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Not to be to technical but what allowed ISIS to move from being just another terrorist group to becoming a formidable military presence in Iraq and Syria were the military officers from the Iraqi army that Bush disbanded. This is what gave ISIS its military power.

I have posted that same thing in the past. Even posted links. You can't get through to some people.


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 1:25 pm
Swifty
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Not to be to technical but what allowed ISIS to move from being just another terrorist group to becoming a formidable military presence in Iraq and Syria were the military officers from the Iraqi army that Bush disbanded. This is what gave ISIS its military power.

I have posted that same thing in the past. Even posted links. You can't get through to some people.

It's for posterity. We need to signal future generations that at this moment in history not everyone went nuts. Given the site views there are also probably lurkers and who knows how they are processing this info.

Redundancy also helps which is why Trump keeps preaching Obama created ISIS.


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 1:59 pm
MartinD28
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If the MSM wants to start winning back some trust, they should stop conducting business like
they're anything besides advocates of the Democrat party. Very easy solution.

It's blatantly obvious they're rooting for the Democrat nominee, per usual. It's sad to see them
continue to undercut their own credibility. An impartial and skeptical media is one of the public's
best friends.

I don't even think YOU believe what you posted. Nothing could be so ridiculous as what you stated. You're just trying to get a rise out of anyone who thinks differently than you (current post excluded). We're not biting.

Then you're in denial.

If you really think in such narrow & myopic perspectives, then I take back my original post and instead hope that one day you can broaden your viewpoint on issues.


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 2:30 pm
OriginalGoober
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So glad CNN is helping out their low information voters! (They are still stupid)


 
Posted : August 11, 2016 4:21 pm
Brendan
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So glad CNN is helping out their low information voters! (They are still stupid)

Says the guy who posts (and clearly believes) things like this.

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=142210

Irony. It's what's for breakfast.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 5:20 am
bob1954
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So glad CNN is helping out their low information voters! (They are still stupid)

Says the guy who posts (and clearly believes) things like this.

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=142210

Irony. It's what's for breakfast.

And he still can't figure out how to size an image to fit this forum. I guess that makes The Goober a low-information poster.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 5:22 am
gondicar
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Just the motion that a presidential nominee has to be fact checked for claiming that the sitting president actually founded ISIS is astounding. But just in case there was any doubt...

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/08/11/is-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis-origwx-sp.cnn/video/playlists/atv-politics-original/


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 9:48 am
tbomike
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Just the motion that a presidential nominee has to be fact checked for claiming that the sitting president actually founded ISIS is astounding. But just in case there was any doubt...

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/08/11/is-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis-origwx-sp.cnn/video/playlists/atv-politics-original//blockquote >

The real funny thing is this. Wolf Blizter of all people nailed him with his own words. FROM 2007! And what is almost equally eye opening is Trump's assessment back then was pretty much correct.

Here’s what he played, taken from the transcript:

BLITZER: The war is hovering over politics right now, as it should -- this is the dominant issue, at least right now, of our time. Give us your assessment. Is there a way out?

TRUMP: The war is a total disaster. It's a catastrophe, nothing less. It is such a shame that this took place. In fact, I gained a lot of respect for our current president's father by the fact that he had the sense not to go into Iraq. He won the war and then said, Let's not go the rest of the way. And he turned out to be right. And Saddam Hussein, whether they liked him or didn't like him, he hated terrorists. He'd shoot and kill terrorists. When terrorists came into his country, which he did control and he did dominate, he would kill terrorists. Now it's a breeding ground for terrorists. So, look, the war is a total catastrophe.

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP: And they have a civil war going over there.

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP: Well, there's only one person you can blame, and that's our current president. I mean, obviously Rumsfeld was a disaster, and other people that are giving him advice have been a disaster. And Condoleezza Rice, who's a lovely woman but she never makes a deal -- she doesn't make deals, she waves. She gets off the plane, she waves, she sits down with some dictator -- 45 degree angle, they do the camera shot. She waves again, she gets back on the plane, she waves -- no deal ever happens. So, I mean —

BLITZER: How does the United States get out of this situation? Is there a way out?

TRUMP: You know how they get out? They get out. That's how they get out. Declare victory and leave. Because I'll tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. They're in a civil war over there, Wolf. There's nothing that we're going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in a major civil war, and it's going to go to Iran, and it's going to go to other countries. They are in the midst of a major civil war, and there's nothing -- and by the way, we're keeping the lid on, a little bit. But the day we leave anyway, it's all going to blow up.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 10:54 am
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