Transcript Trump Zelenskyy Ukranian Phone Call

. . .scar tissue from prior surgeries . . .
Sounds painful - may it loosen up for you, sorry you're hurting

By the way, the NY Post reported that Guiliani said he had info. on Biden that he can bring out. Trump wants a trial, it will be very interesting.
By all means Rudy should release his info. Any reason he hasn't done so as of yet?
Trump wants a trial...laughable. That guy says all kinds of things and never intends to follow through. He was going to talk with Mueller. That happened - right? Anyone questioning Trump would have a field day with Trump's version of "facts".
House Judiciary Chair Jerry Nadler has invited Trump to the impeachment hearing Tuesday Dec. 4th when the reconvene. This may be historic. Reality Politics TV.
Chance of Trump going to the Hill to testify = .00000000000000000000000000000001. They'd rip him a new a$$hole, and he would show the American people how badly he'd lie to Congress. How much guilt do you think he could cover?
Trump couldn't be away from his Twitter account or tv to watch Trump Network (Faux News) long enough to even swear on the Bible much less testify for several hours. If anything he'll demand he submit his answers in writing (so someone else can answer them of course) and then claim he testified.

Chance of Trump going to the Hill to testify = .00000000000000000000000000000001. They'd rip him a new a$$hole, and he would show the American people how badly he'd lie to Congress. How much guilt do you think he could cover?
I thought the consensus was that the American people - at least the Redhats & the GOP - don't care whether he lies to Congress.

I think lies matter a great deal. Trump did respond via his White House counsel he will not attend the Judiciary hearings next week. Trump has a NATO conference, and his lawyer, Pat Cippolone will not attend without knowing who the witnesses are beforehand.

I think lies matter a great deal.
Then you must think every turd from the presidential fanus means a great deal.

I do not agree with all the President's policies and as to lies, if something is proven to be a lie, that is one thing. If people just think he is lieing, that is another.
The Democrats are wasting no time in their opinion of the matter at hand.
"Three constitutional scholars summoned by Democrats are testifying Wednesday that President Trump’s conduct toward Ukraine rises to the level of impeachment, as the inquiry moves to a new phase with the first hearing by the House Judiciary Committee, a panel prone to theatrics and partisan brawls.
Another law school professor, tapped by Republicans, will caution against impeachment. The focus has shifted from the House Intelligence Committee, which voted along party lines Tuesday to approve a 300-page report that concluded that Trump had “compromised national security to advance his personal political interests.”
REMARKS: Once again it is the intel people who want to get Trump out of office. That should tell you about the state of the nation and affairs. They think they can just impeach a President because he doesn't want to go along with their ideas and agendas. He wants peace in Afghanistan, they don't. They want that drug trade to flourish. He wants to take the troops home, they don't want that, they want wars all over the globe, that way there is tons of money that can disappear into pockets and they can live large and luxuriously. There is so little accountability of where the money we send for wars actually ends up. There are the lies and excuses, they had to bribe local warlords for intel and cooperation, etc. etc. Well if we take our troops home, that money doesn't get lost in black ops.
I think we should stop supporting the world. Fix our country first. If those governments need money, let them make good trade deals with us and anyone else. Stop the sanctions it is only driving countries to use alternative currencies which will ultimately bring our dollar down. We don't want that. Respect state sovereignty and state borders. If you send aid, ask where it is going and verify it.

THEY !!!!!!!

I do not agree with all the President's policies and as to lies, if something is proven to be a lie, that is one thing. If people just think he is lieing, that is another.
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Seriously Gina. You don't actually believe these 2 lines you wrote? Trump's standard operating procedure is to advance conspiracy theories and lie on a daily basis. In your lifetime name one president that has lied his way through 1/1000th of the amount that Trump has. But you turn your head.

Martin I don't think he lies like that. If people want to put up things he said that were proven to be lies, and if that is the truth, we cannot say it is not. I just think the Democrats were out to get him from before he even took office. Here are some of the reasons they give in their 300 page document on why they think he committed impeachable offenses.
This is how messed up this is.
"Pamela Karlan of Stanford Law School told Eisen she believed Trump committed bribery. In explaining why, Karlan highlighted what she thought was the “most chilling line” of the scandal: when EU ambassador Gordon Sondland admitted that Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, wasn’t concerned about an investigation being started or completed; what Giuliani and Trump wanted was a public announcement of an investigation. This made it clear to Karlan that “this was not about whether Vice President Biden actually committed corruption or not,” but instead, “this was about injuring somebody who the president thinks of as a particularly hard opponent.” Rep. Ted Lieu (D-California) noted later in the hearing that while he believes Trump’s conduct meets the standard for criminal bribery, impeachment is a civil proceeding, and thus conduct examined does not need to “meet the standards of a federal bribery statute” in order to be impeachable."
12-5-19

Gina - Trump gets caught in a provable lies every week. Just this week he said that he didn't know Prince Andrew. Then not only did a flood of pictures come in with Trump and Prince Andrew together, (including some with Epstein thrown in for good measure) but an old interview surfaced where Trump said that Prince Andrew is a lot of fun. Obviously Trump lied. Even if you discount the photos, he either lied now or he lied back then when he said he knew them. Again, Trump's fans don't care that he lies constantly (that is the new normal), but don't try to say he doesn't lie, or that his lies are opinions, because he lies more than he tells the truth.

He probably met Andrew because he (Trump) knew Epstein, there are pictures of him, Melania and Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell from the old days. If he said Andrew was a lot of fun, then he hung out with him, not necessarily knowing him, it's like parties where celebrities are, sometimes you see the same people so you are acquainted with them, you feel like you know them because you keep seeing them around in the same circles. It is not known if he had any business dealings with Andrew. He said Epstein liked his girls young and he enjoyed his social life. He had to have seen those girls were underage, but did not take any action on that. The main person who has come out against Epstein, Virginia Roberts Giuffre had worked at Mar-a-Lago as did her Father. There was reportedly an incident (this is covered in the Epstein thread) where she was harassed and/or assaulted there and then Epstein was no longer welcome there. If those two events were related is not clear.
There are things he just does not want to talk about.
There seems to be something going on where people want to destroy Andrew, probably from the intel community as well as the woman, Virginia Roberts wants some punishment for him.
If people just do the right thing, there is no need for lies or coverups and non disclosures. But there is also the group who want to find anything to use against Trump and those 300 pages of why he should be impeached will be presented to the Senate probably next week.

Martin I don't think he lies like that.
As of October 2019 the Washington Post has his lie count at 13,435. We can give him benefit of the doubt on 435. Bet you think it's all a misunderstanding. Soon he will will surpass Honest Abe for "honesty", and his new nickname will be Honest Don.

Martin I don't think he lies like that.
As of October 2019 the Washington Post has his lie count at 13,435. We can give him benefit of the doubt on 435. Bet you think it's all a misunderstanding. Soon he will will surpass Honest Abe for "honesty", and his new nickname will be Honest Don.
I wasn't aware of that. That is pretty ominous, though it would explain why he hates the Washington Post, as well as the New York Times.

Martin I don't think he lies like that.
As of October 2019 the Washington Post has his lie count at 13,435. We can give him benefit of the doubt on 435. Bet you think it's all a misunderstanding. Soon he will will surpass Honest Abe for "honesty", and his new nickname will be Honest Don.
I wasn't aware of that. That is pretty ominous, though it would explain why he hates the Washington Post, as well as the New York Times.
Correct - his hate is based upon being called out on the facts. We really don't want anyone fact checking him because it gets in the way of his narrative that keeps people like you in the fold.
We should hate a free press in a free country, right? We should just eliminate the free press and take everything Trump says as real. You do realize why he admires KJU and North Korea, don't you?

You do realize why he admires KJU and North Korea, don't you?
You do realize Gina thinks Osama Bin Laden is a stud, don't you?

As of October 2019 the Washington Post has his lie count at 13,435. We can give him benefit of the doubt on 435. Bet you think it's all a misunderstanding. Soon he will will surpass Honest Abe for "honesty", and his new nickname will be Honest Don.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days//blockquote >I wasn't aware of that. That is pretty ominous, though it would explain why he hates the Washington Post, as well as the New York Times.
Correct - his hate is based upon being called out on the facts. We really don't want anyone fact checking him because it gets in the way of his narrative that keeps people like you in the fold.
Trump lies. There are no contortions defenders can do to justify 100, 1,000, 5,000, much less 13,000+ lies counted by independent fact checkers w/no political or journalism affiliation.
He lies reflexively. He lies in his personal life to both his wives & girlfriends. He continues to lie about his business "success" in the 1980s. Even the ghost writer of his "best-selling" Art of the Deal has said it should've been sold as fiction. It didn't matter then because the only injured parties were the financial institutions stupid enough to lend him money.
It matters now to anyone interested in the stature of the US. Numerous independent fact-checking organizations come up w/the same number as that published by the Washington Post. In addition, academicians are tallying the lies & number of times he's repeated the same lies as research for political science and statistics classes. One organization actually classifies the types & egregiousness of the lies.
BTW, fact-checking didn't start w/"enemies" of Trump. Reputable publishers, magazines, news outlets, and newspapers have employed a staff of fact-checkers since the their origination. It's one of the qualities that distinguish journalism from tabloids. In the early to mid-20th century, fact-checking for a magazine like Time or National Review were highly-sought prestigious jobs.
Trump's disciples just don't care that he lies.

Trump's disciples just don't care that he lies.
How can it be a lie if Trump said it?

Trump's disciples just don't care that he lies.
How can it be a lie if Trump said it?
His lips were moving.

His lips were moving.
Those are lips? I thought they were hemmorhoids.

Rudy Giuliani will have a report ready by tomorrow or Thursday.
"I should probably have it ready on Wednesday or Thursday," Giuliani said Monday morning while appearing on "War Room: Impeachment," a radio show hosted by Steve Bannon and Jason Miller. "I don't exactly know when it'll be made public, but it should be ready by then. I worked on it all weekend."

Mike Pompeo tells what he told Russia.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday said that he told Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov that interference in U.S. domestic affairs is "unacceptable." "On the question of interference in our domestic affairs, I was clear, it's unacceptable and I made our expectation of Russia clear," Pompeo said during a joint press conference with Lavrov.
"The Trump administration will always work to protect the integrity of our elections. Period. Should Russia or any foreign actor take steps to undermine our democratic processes, we will take action in response," he added.

Lisa Page is suiing the DOJ and FBI over privacy violations.
Wonder if she will mention Trump's parody of a phone call between her and Peter Strozk.
[Edited on 12/10/2019 by gina]

"The Trump administration will always work to protect the integrity of our elections. Period. Should Russia or any foreign actor take steps to undermine our democratic processes, we will take action in response,"
Oh. Ok.

"The Trump administration will always work to protect the integrity of our elections. Period. Should Russia or any foreign actor take steps to undermine our democratic processes, we will take action in response,"
Oh. Ok.
Saying "thank you" is an action in response.

"The Trump administration will always work to protect the integrity of our elections. Period. Should Russia or any foreign actor take steps to undermine our democratic processes, we will take action in response,"
Oh. Ok.
Saying "thank you" is an action in response.
That occurred today at the White House in a closed door meeting between Russian Don & Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Timing was perfect - same time frame as impeachment. Trump needs more help from Russia in 2020, and today was the kickoff.
Ironically Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky is still waiting for his White House invite. What a silly guy he is. All he had to do was mention an investigation into the Bidens, and the red carpet would have been rolled out.

Planning the final assault. Wargaming contingency protocols - may have to make big moves in case the second term doesn't happen.

Planning the final assault. Wargaming contingency protocols - may have to make big moves in case the second term doesn't happen.
Oh second term happens. My psychic said before he was elected that Hillary would not win some scandal would come up [the email server thing came up] and Trump would have a big problem while in office but get re-elected.
So far this has happened.
He also saw Judgement Day and said it happens 10-31-39.

He also saw Judgement Day and said it happens 10-31-39
That's convenient, the psychic will be long gone with the sacks of cash before that prediction fails.
Here is my prediction. I predict that you will continue to be relieved of money by charlatans.
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36
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