I find it revealing how all the Trump fans are obsessed with the identity of the whistleblower, all while ignoring all the first hand accounts that confirm what the whistleblower said. It's like they are saying that we should ignore all the evidence e because they are concerned with how the investigation started. Kind of like if the police investigated a noise complaint and saw a murder victim on the floor, but never mind that..the police never should have been called because the neighbor who made the complaint already didn't like the guy so everything else should be ignored.
The transcripts were changed. Even the phone call was not recorded which was the basis of the inquiry. I do not think he withheld funding till he got info. We just recently gave Sri Lanka 389 Million dollars, what do they do for us? All the people who want to see Trump's downfall are all connected in this investigation, shouldn't be. It really does look like a conspiracy now.
The transcripts were changed. Even the phone call was not recorded which was the basis of the inquiry. I do not think he withheld funding till he got info. We just recently gave Sri Lanka 389 Million dollars, what do they do for us? All the people who want to see Trump's downfall are all connected in this investigation, shouldn't be. It really does look like a conspiracy now.
Several ambassadors and people in the administration have admitted it was a quid pro quo. Why would they all lie? Even if the money wasn't held long term, there was obviously a threat to do so.
Since we're most likely headed to a trial in the Senate, my attention is turning to Chief Justice Roberts and how he'll proceed in his crucial role as Judge during the actual Senate trial.
Four interesting tidbits to consider:
1) Roberts is not now nor has ever been an actual trial judge.
2) He's obviously extremely conservative and so understands that Trump has been a very useful idiot (in the sense that Trump is told who to nominate and has no knowledge or understanding of the actual process) regarding the appointment via the Senate of many conservative judges at many levels of the various federal courts. Something Roberts no doubt relishes...
3) Roberts is reputed to be VERY conscious of the perception of the Supreme Court and his role as Chief Justice of the court in that it not be perceived as political. He's also reputed to believe that at this time in history this is his more important concern as Chief Justice.
4) Roberts has publicly clashed with Trump over comments Trump has made about the role of Judges at various times over the past almost three years. Specifically in relation to the appeals court and about comments specific to Roberts himself.
So, what will be very interesting to watch his how Roberts walks the fine line of fairness regarding the rules the Senate puts in place for the trial (which is their purview under the Constitution), how he applies these rules given he's NEVER actually overseen a trial, and how he does or does not slant the process to favor the POTUS.....
It should be great entertainment folks...Roll a fat one, pop some corn, and chill your favorite beverage as this should be a fun and freaky show, kids.
The transcripts were changed. Even the phone call was not recorded which was the basis of the inquiry. I do not think he withheld funding till he got info. We just recently gave Sri Lanka 389 Million dollars, what do they do for us? All the people who want to see Trump's downfall are all connected in this investigation, shouldn't be. It really does look like a conspiracy now.
Several ambassadors and people in the administration have admitted it was a quid pro quo. Why would they all lie? Even if the money wasn't held long term, there was obviously a threat to do so.
How do they KNOW it was a quid pro quo? What was specifically said to indicate this, or was it their interpretation?
We all know that Trump doesn't like long conversations, he likes to get to the point and delegate tasks to his underlings. If he said something like 'I want to know if Biden was involved in anything regarding the Ukraine, take care of that'; well it could be up to interpretation what that means.
If he says something like 'see if you can find out anything about Biden and the 2016 election from your side', that too would be subject to interpretation.
There is NO ONE who has said he told them to withhold money unless they got information (or got the goods) on any Democrat interfering in the election.
Since we're most likely headed to a trial in the Senate, my attention is turning to Chief Justice Roberts and how he'll proceed in his crucial role as Judge during the actual Senate trial.
Four interesting tidbits to consider:
1) Roberts is not now nor has ever been an actual trial judge.
2) He's obviously extremely conservative and so understands that Trump has been a very useful idiot (in the sense that Trump is told who to nominate and has no knowledge or understanding of the actual process) regarding the appointment via the Senate of many conservative judges at many levels of the various federal courts. Something Roberts no doubt relishes...
3) Roberts is reputed to be VERY conscious of the perception of the Supreme Court and his role as Chief Justice of the court in that it not be perceived as political. He's also reputed to believe that at this time in history this is his more important concern as Chief Justice.
4) Roberts has publicly clashed with Trump over comments Trump has made about the role of Judges at various times over the past almost three years. Specifically in relation to the appeals court and about comments specific to Roberts himself.
So, what will be very interesting to watch his how Roberts walks the fine line of fairness regarding the rules the Senate puts in place for the trial (which is their purview under the Constitution), how he applies these rules given he's NEVER actually overseen a trial, and how he does or does not slant the process to favor the POTUS.....
It should be great entertainment folks...Roll a fat one, pop some corn, and chill your favorite beverage as this should be a fun and freaky show, kids.
There are some things that have even eluded our Congressional Represenatives, like Rand Paul. Who wants the Whistleblower's name revealed.
1. There are laws protecting the identity of a Whistleblower. This comes from WB's lawyer, Mark S. Zaid
https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq
2. Rand is right, that in a Criminal Case the accused has a right to know who his accuser is. The problem with this impeachment is that IT IS NOT A CRIMINAL CASE, it is a Civil Case.
3. In this Impeachment Inquiry/Matter/which will probably become a case, Whistleblower will not be the Accuser, the ACCUSER IS THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, and Trump knows ALL their names.
4. The Whistleblower has agreed to answer questions put to him, responding in writing, of course with Counsel's advice. Not good enough for the Republicans.
How about this, just like in some high profile cases, the Whistleblower could appear behind a screen, have his voice modified and be brought in and out of the courtroom/testimony area privately so no one can see his identity, if necessary put a pillowcase over his head, nobody will see what they look like, and that is a tactic the CIA uses when they snatch someone. They come to your house at 3 AM, and abduct you putting a pillow case over your head so you can't move your arms to object or see/identify them. Since the Whistleblower allegedly works for the CIA, it should be okay to use some of their own tactics on him, so he could come to testify.
Attorney Zaid did issue a Cease and Desist order recently about revealing the Whistleblower's identity because it could cause harm to his family. Well I don't think anybody from the right would do anything like that; but he has a point being that the guy is intelligence work, if he is identified, that could be compromising to his job.
5. There are laws against revealing CIA agents identities. Remember when Bush outed one? Because he was Bush he got away with it, other people, such as reporters there could be CONSEQUENCES, FEDERAL consequences. Which is why the media and journalists are treading very carefully even though most of them know who he is.
6. If his identity is outed, and he feels he needs protection. He can do his own witness protection, it is not that difficult. Do not trust the govt. to do it for you, do it yourself. Let them give you a new name, or change your name yourself, do simple covert things, get a PO Box not in the town where you live. Get a prepaid phone in your new name or your wife or kids name. Use that. Do your internet on a virtual private network for those whose identities you want kept private. Use offshore accounts like journalists have had to resort to. Use encryption same as you do now, or use the General Petraeus concept, open an account and you and those who you talk to like family, all have the account and password, create messages, save them as drafts, do NOT send them, they sit on the server till the person you wrote it to opens it, reads it, deletes it. There is no way to track it, it just sits on the server, use an offshore server. As an agent, people should be able to give him advice. Set up corporations to put your house/assets in. Do not have your car registered to your home address, there are any number of mail box companies you can have your mail, some or all of it sent to. There are mail forwarding services also. Leave as little digital fingerprints as possible. Get off Facebook, or put a bag over your head to disguise your face. Etc., etc. There are people who live with wack job ex boyfriends stalking them, they know how to go dark, why doesn't an agent know things like this? Etc., etc.
[Edited on 11/9/2019 by gina]
IRONY - Whistleblower's attorney wanted someone else to reveal who they were.
THIS IS WORSE THAN THAT. IN 2017 HE PREDICTS IMPEACHMENT.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/07/anti-trump-whistleblowers-attorney-coup-has-started-we-will-get-rid-of-trump/
"Throughout the first few years of Trump’s presidency, Zaid has reaffirmed his commitment to remove the president from office through impeachment. In July 2017, Zaid wrote, “We will get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive even him and his supporters,” and later remarked that one day history will be reciting the tales of Trump’s impeachment."
"I defied the rain to hear my friend @DavidPriess speak at @BNBuzz abt his new book "How to get rid of a President"."
"Zaid’s bias against the president has been well-documented. In a podcast last year, Zaid spoke about how he often goes out of his way just to use the term “resistance,” and bragged about having sued every president since 1993."
Tristan Justice is a staff writer at The Federalist focusing on the 2020 presidential campaigns. Follow him on Twitter at @JusticeTristan or contact him at Tristan@thefederalist.com.
This was sent to Trump's lawyer.
https://twitter.com/AndrewBakaj
Now you know how bad it has gotten. Trump will say less because they tell him all these terrible things that he could be guilty of. They know HE KNOWS who Whistleblower is. If the Democratic Congress offers articles of impeachment to the Senate. The Senate holds the trial, Republicans, they will likely not agree with this and vote no.
[Edited on 11/9/2019 by gina]
This was sent to Trump's lawyer.
[url] https://compassrosepllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/2019_1107_-Correspon dence-to-White-House-Counsel.pdf[/url]
^ ^ ^ LINK IS AN AUTOMATIC DOWNLOAD FOLKS!
Probably infects your computer with Russian spyware.
. . . put a bag over your head . . .
Maybe you should put a bag over your head.
This was sent to Trump's lawyer.
https://twitter.com/AndrewBakaj
Now you know how bad it has gotten. Trump will say less because they tell him all these terrible things that he could be guilty of. They know HE KNOWS who Whistleblower is. If the Democratic Congress offers articles of impeachment to the Senate. The Senate holds the trial, Republicans, they will likely not agree with this and vote no.
[Edited on 11/9/2019 by gina]
"The Senate holds the trial, Republicans, they will likely not agree with this and vote no."
Because the GOP Senators have no balls, turn their heads to facts, and carry the water for a president who uses the departments of the US Government for his self-induced political problems; senators are spinless and w/out ethics. They think the hell with the Constitution. When they are voted out they only have themselves to blame for riding the chicken train.
"The Senate holds the trial, Republicans, they will likely not agree with this and vote no."
Because the GOP Senators have no balls, turn their heads to facts, and carry the water for a president who uses the departments of the US Government for his self-induced political problems; senators are spinless and w/out ethics. They think the hell with the Constitution. When they are voted out they only have themselves to blame for riding the chicken train.
Martin D28, I get the feeling you don't like Republicans.
From martinD28's post, it sounds like he's specifically referring to this current crop of Republican senators, not Republicans in general.
Correct.
One only needs to listen to the words of John McCain's wife in last week's interview. These are not Republicans; they are Trump enablers. It would be a waste of time to list the despicable words and actions of Trump in attempts to have those who identify with the GOP to try to defend Trump.
I don't see much defense of Trump on this site other than from a couple of the usual posters. There is not much attempt at defense or support of Trump understandably.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/11/09/cindy-mccain-on-gop-axefiles-vpx.cnn
If you have not been reading Representative jim Jordan's tweets you should.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan
Representative Massie lets us know that the Democrats are trying to sneak in an amendment to extend the Patriot Act warrantless surveillance which expires Dec. 15th till March 15, 2020. They stuck it in a bill to continue funding the government which expires November 21st. How convenient.
Thomas Massie
Verified account
@RepThomasMassie
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Today, while everyone is distracted by impeachment drama, Congress will extend warrantless data collection provisions of the #PatriotAct, by hiding this language on page 25 of the CR that temporarily funds the Govt. To sneak this through, Democrats are suspending the 72 hour rule.
Representative Jordan also noted:
On Wednesday, @RepJerryNadler plans to push FISA and other important bills through Judiciary.
But 4 Judiciary members are on the impeachment committee and will be in hearings!
After the Dossier, why are Dems trying to rush FISA during impeachment and BEFORE the IG report?
Nellie Ohr testified to Congress that some of Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS’s oppo research against the Trump campaign came from a Ukrainian: SERHIY LESHCHENKO.
This is EXACTLY why Republicans asked @RepAdamSchiff to call Nellie Ohr to testify. Schiff refused. https://twitter.com/leshchenkos/status/1195464853944705024 …
I cannot get into more details now but I will say there is a full fledged coup going on, involving one of the HIGHEST level Democrats (a female), and some of the intel people. This goes way beyond partisan politics. Planning and plotting with the whistleblower.
Man, the trump junkies around here are losin it
If you have not been reading Representative jim Jordan's tweets you should.
The same Jim Jordan who brushed off sexual abuse allegations against the OSU team doctor when Jordan was the OSU assistant wrestling coach?
"Yeah, that's Strauss" was Jordan's reply to a male student who told Jordan about an incident of sexual abuse by Strauss (who committed suicide thereafter).
Yeah, Jordan is real credible...
How do they KNOW it was a quid pro quo? What was specifically said to indicate this, or was it their interpretation?
GINA, Gina, gina...the Mob doesn't say "go murder Johnny Roastbeef," they say go take care of Johnny Roastbeef..."
Jeez...
You have no clue. There were photos on Mike Morrel's twitter page of Nancy Pelosi and Whistleblower, and John Brennan and Whistleblower. He took them down, and put up some other ones; but there is more. From an article, no I will not put the link because of the HUGE plot to impeach Trump.
"1. imagine if at a dinner in Washington DC, in Oct 2016, you had:
- John Brennan, Director of the CIA
- Susan Rice, Obama's Nat. Security Adviser
together with Whistleblower -
2. imagine if at that dinner in Washington DC there were also: - Joe Biden - Nancy Pelosi - John Kerry - Obama's Secretary of State - Loretta Lynch - Obama's Attorney General
3. imagine if at that dinner in Washington DC there were also: - John Podesta - Tony Podesta - Valerie Jarrett (obama's nanny) - Samantha Powers - Leonardo DiCaprio (???)
4. that dinner would be just a couple of weeks before the 2016 elections...
5. and yes, that dinner REALLY HAPPENED. and John Brennan, Susan Rice were at that dinner together with Whistleblower and with Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. and all the others mentioned above.
6. what does it tell you?
7. John Brennan, Susan Rice, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden... they all knew the Adam Schiff 'whistleblower'.... .
8. and no, the photo above is not of Whistleblower. it is a photo of S.M. - the "second whistleblower" a dear colleague of Whistleblower at the National Security Council, just recruited by Adam Schiff, in Aug 2019
9. and this is the photo of Abigail Grace, who worked at the National Security Council under both Obama and Trump, she was also recruited by Adam Schiff, in February 2019 .
10. the question is: Was the Adam Schiff “Whistleblower Operation” planned by John Brennan? coordinated by Brennan with Susan Rice, Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff? and using Whistleblower, S.M. and Abigail Grace as Brennan tools? .
11. and guess what... at that dinner in Washington DC, in Oct 2016, there were also the two James: - James Clapper - and James Comey yes, that guy who has a "higher loyalty"..
12. by the way... Comey has a "higher loyalty"... to whom?
13. also Joe Biden and Diane Feinstein have a "higher loyalty". yes, to Communist China .
14. and guess WHO ELSE was at that dinner in Washington DC, in Oct 2016? yes, the then Prime Minister of Italy - MATTEO RENZI - the Best Friend of Obama, who helped Brennan and Comey to SPY on Trump.
15. this is Matteo Renzi Twitter account: @matteorenzi you can write something 'nice' to him... by 'nice' I mean... well, you know.
16. as you know, AG William Barr and prosecutor John Durham have been to Italy recently. and they are going back there soon. not just because they like PIZZA and SPAGHETTI all'amatriciana, and Brunello di Montalcino...
17. and guess who else was at that dinner in Washington DC, in Oct 2016? Charles Kupchan - Special Assistant to President Obama and Senior Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council Charles Kupchan was the BOSS of the whistleblower.
18. btw: yes, it was a lunch. plausible deniability. but now I can tell... "official Luncheon in honor of Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi" Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:00 pm
19. The Italian Connection of Spygate is very important. we still know little about it. not just Mifsud, also Italian spy agencies and the Vatican involved. that White House lunch on Oct 18, 2016 was a BIG "Thank You" to the Italian PM Matteo Renzi. .
20. and remember: NOTHING happens in Italy without the APPROVAL of the Vatican. Italy is infact a COLONY of the Vatican. and the Vatican has powerful tentacles also in Washington DC. think Georgetown University... a Jesuit University founded in 1789
21. and the Jesuits have 28 Universities all over the US. 28 Universities... guess where the "Social Justice" push, came from... check the (Jesuit) Georgetown University homepage. "
REMARKS: COUP, Well planned and orchestrated at the highest levels of government. For what purpose, to bring in that international-one-new-world order. If you don't want that, you need to wake up.
[Edited on 11/19/2019 by gina]
I knew it was just a matter of time before Obama's name somehow got dragged into this dogfight.
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The only thing missing now is for Trump cultists to somehow link Hillary into their conspiracy theories and they can drop the mike.
REMARKS: COUP, Well planned and orchestrated at the highest levels of government. For what purpose, to bring in that international-one-new-world order. If you don't want that, you need to wake up.
COUP: A sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
I don't think these legal impeachment hearings match the definition.
A higher loyalty is to the American citizens and the US Constitution. Not to a corrupt president. That is why the founders of this country put in a system of checks and balances. The US government continues on once a presidents term is complete, unless he dies first or is removed from office my congress. The US is not a monarchy.
They want him ousted as soon as possible, they are trying to bring articles of impeachment against him that the Senate will have to vote on. The Committees that are calling witnesses are NOT impartial. They have people on them who know the whistleblower. They refuse to identify the whistleblower or let anyone in Congress formerly know who he is, or present him and make him available for questioning.
Representative Jordan brought that up, out of 435 members of Congress only Schiff knows the identity of the Whistleblower.
While the proceedings are not a criminal trial, IF he is impeached, then criminal charges could be brought against him once he is ousted.
If they cannot get him out of the government the nice way (if you could call these proceedings nice), they can always create an event to do it even with violence. Just have millions of protesters go to Washington like they did in Egypt to oust Hosni Mubarak. They can mobilize the Black Lives Matter protesters and others and go to Washington creating violence.
These people who seek to seize the current, functioning government and oust anyone from power who do not agree with them.
Trump has done many things they are opposed to such as the desire to leave Afghanistan; the world drug trade wants those opium poppies that were destroyed under the Taliban, and are less even nowdays. We need to have a war there to keep troops there, Trump does not want to do that.
He wants to stop the illegals from coming across our border with Mexico. Some politicians want them to come so they can get them registered with their political party to try to take the election in 2020.
Etc. Etc.
Bottom Line, if they cannot get him out via impeachment, they will resort to some act of violence, the same way they overthrow leaders of other nation states. If you want to call it a soft coup, or pre-coup or have a better word for it, the goal is the same. To oust him and then create civil unrest in the country, leading to a civil war, then they declare an emergency, martial law gets implemented, they seize whatever they want to, and the existing government is destroyed. Think it cannot happen here? Why did they do the Jade Helm 2015 and 2016 exercises? For a civil war in this country.
They want that one world order.
A higher loyalty is to the American citizens and the US Constitution. Not to a corrupt president. That is why the founders of this country put in a system of checks and balances. The US government continues on once a presidents term is complete, unless he dies first or is removed from office my congress. The US is not a monarchy.
What do you call the tactics others have used? Forthright? Honorable? The illegal voting Project Veritas exposed, to try to steal an election?
The lack of due process and implementation of the UNCONSTITUTIONAL Patriot Act which I pointed out will have it's warrantless surveillance edicts renewed until next March, being sneakily slipped into the bill to continue funding the government? Nobody even knows it is in there, people are busy watching the impeachment, so they just slip in the amendment because it might not get voted on on it's own merit.
How do we allow the implementation of UNCONSTITUTIONAL legistlation to be adopted in this country?
How did they have all 900 pages of the act all typed, bound and ready for distribution so soon after 9-11-01 with typists who type 35 words a minute? It was done waaaaay in advance as part of another agenda, that's how. It was delivered to the Congressional members on a Sunday night and the vote was taken on Monday. Who can read 900 pages in one night?
This government and its branches has not functioned the way the forefathers of this country envisioned and tried to make provisions for it to do so. The tentacles of evil got their people in office and they just ignore due process etc.
Foam-flecked and wild-eyed.
I would be freaking out about the New World Order, but I can relax because they will be rounding up you and all the crazy morons first, which is going to take a long time, there are so damn many of you. LONG LIVE THE ILLUMINATI!
The tentacles of evil got their people in office . . .
[Edited on 11/20/2019 by BrerRabbit]
You have no clue.
Actually you have no clue and are all over the map. What we are seeing is our country's system of checks and balances at work. Nothing scary or evil. Not a coup.
You know nothing. The real coup attempt was when this new administration purged every agency of the US Government - an ongoing destabilization aimed at overthrow of democracy.
Why were they so intent on obtaining all the voter records info To check on voter fraud in an election they won? Not likely. They were on a huge roll, striking while the iron was hot, looking at complete takeover and wanted the names of everyone who did not vote for Trump, so they could clamp down on all dissent, in a massive Stalin-style purge.
You could feel the malice right here on WP, not content to simply enjoy their win, they were saying in so many words, "now we will eradicate all opposition permanently."
If it looks, smells, and acts like a Nazi, it is best to assume it is a Nazi. Our country's failsafe apparatus is pulling us back from the pit of tyranny.
[Edited on 11/20/2019 by BrerRabbit]
Just because Trump is blonde, doesn't mean he is a Nazi.
He had to purge the agencies since they have had corrupt people in them.
There was voter fraud on a massive scale and I know I put up links to some of the Project Veritas proof of the Democrats bussing people across state lines, getting illegals work cards so they could get voter registration cards even though they were not citizens. I do agree with you that nobody has a right to know how people vote or IF they vote. That info. should remain with the Board of Elections. They proved those Diebold machines were hackable if NOT hacked, so why are we still using them?
I do not agree with Ms. Ocasio-Cortez on some things, but she said we need a NEW Congress and I think that may be true.
If you have watched or read even some of the testimonies from the Impeachment Hearings you will know how effed up the whole thing is. It is simple, the transcript was made available, so why is there 5 days of deciding what Sondland knew, heard, was told? Why did it take 5 days to come to the conclusion that 'it was his perception' of what was asked of him?
When asked direct questions by some of the Congressmen, the witnesses were stumped or forced to admit they were not TOLD, they THOUGHT things were a certain way, or what they THOUGHT was expected of them in the performance of their jobs and assignments they were sent on.
For anyone to say that Trump directed or told them to do something, he did not specify the things they believed he MEANT for them to say/do.
They should have called Trump as the first witness and asked the questions.
-Did you say this?
-What did you say?
Then you could badger the witnesses and ask WHY did you think he meant something else?
The whole issue of withholding funding was just people's ideas that it was linked to his getting info. from the Ukranians, it was not. Our govt. has not even been funded with a new budget, maybe he wanted to wait to transfer that amount of money until more money came in from somewhere else. for operational needs of this country. Nobody even considers this.
Is he dirty? Is everybody covering it up? I like to think NOT. But I keep saying we have to be aware of what is going on in DC. I find too much coincidence with Whistleblower's background and all these allegations against Trump coming out in the way and time frame that they did.
Anyone else who wants to seriously run for the Presidency in 2020 has to provide at least some specific plans on what they want to do, what it will cost, and how they plan to fund those things. Mostly we just hear rhetoric from politicians and that will not sustain the country, economy. None of the opponents have mentioned preserving the sovereignty of the borders of this country and staying out of wars/military actions with countries overseas solely for the acquisition of natural resources of those countries. These are important things.
The holidays are almost upon us, some interesting things have come up. Do you know what happened to bring about Hanukkah? I didn't.
Hanukkah is a Jewish holiday commemorating the rededication of the Holy Temple (the Second Temple) in Jerusalem at the time of the Maccabean Revolt against the Seleucid Empire. Hanukkah is observed for eight nights and days, starting on the 25th day.
The Maccabees successfully rebelled against Antiochus IV Epiphanes. According to the Talmud, a late text, the Temple was purified and the wicks of the menorah miraculously burned for eight days, even though there was only enough sacred oil for one day's lighting.
Do you know who Antiochus was and what was going on? He wanted people to bow down to Greek Gods, the Jews refused. The Greeks had defiled the second Temple in Jerusalem. The Jews fought and took the Temple back. One of the festivals he forced them to celebrate was Saturnalia Dec. 25 - a sun God associated with the worship of Baal of Babylon. Antiochus forbid the Jews to practice their religion, forbid the circumcision of the male babies (which is a custom of modern day Jews, Christians and Muslims).
This was the Seleucid Empire.
Notice anything? The countries of Syria, Afghanistan, Iran and places where we are still fighting today. And what does the Bible tell you? The anti-Christ who will be coming will come shortly after rebuilding the 3rd Temple in Jerusalem. Trump and the Jews are getting that done.
The anti-Christ will be a European World Leader.
Politics and what is going on in the world are vitally important. You don't have to know everything that happened since the beginning of time, but you've got to start knowing why we are in these endless wars, they lead up to the BIG one. It is the same countries fighting.
We have to respect the borders of other countries or set things up nice and easy for the anti-Christ to trounce through them and take them over.
