I heard today that at least one Republican has the balls to come to the defense of the Whistle blower and made clear that the claims he/she are making are NOT all second hand. T
Thank you Chuck Grassley.....Nice to know one of you has some balls to call Trump and company out on their attempted spin.
I've seen enough of Chuckie through the years. If and when facts are presented, and if and when the facts are difficult to deny, I want to see where Chuckie goes with this. If there's a Senate vote, I want to see how many have the balls to vote with the facts as opposed to voting in fear of tweets.
I like what Eric Trump had to say and pointed out about the comparisons on how different things would be if Trump had been on the Board of Directors of a Ukranian company getting $50,000 a month.
But yes we know life's not fair. There is one set of rules for Trump and one for the Democrats.
IF they do impeach him and remove him from office, can he still run in the 2020 election? Nobody has answered that. Ross Perot said people can launch grassroots campaigns and get people on the ballots even without an official party endorsement, or we could all just write him in. What would the Electoral College do then?
Former Ukranian envoy Volker's remarks to Congress.
Those involved in the investigation.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-24-names-in-the-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-that-could-doom-trump
Volker is concurrently the head of the McCain Institute for International Leadership and also a senior adviser at his old lobbying firm, BGR Group, which just happens to represent Ukraine. There are no such things as coincidences. John McCain was virulently anti-Trump, as were/are many in the McCain Institute. Kramer propagated the fake dossier, likely at McCain’s behest. Both Kramer and Volker were in the McCain Institute’s International Leadership group. Volker helped set up Guiliani’s contacts with Ukrainian officials. Occam’s razor says that this gambit was a repeat play of the beginnings of the Russian dossier hoax, with Volker’s resignation Friday adding suspicion to fuel the media’s fire. [Note: an alternative view to Volker’s resignation is that he was caught out and was forced to resign. Regardless, either reason makes him complicit in the conspiracy.]
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/kurt-volker-testimony-congress-ukraine-trump
Volker and Gordon Sondland, the US ambassador to the European Union, discussed that subject in the August text messages; Sondland had asked whether that was still the US's request, and Volker confirmed.
On his contacts with Rudy Giuliani, Volker said he became aware early this year about "an emerging, negative narrative about Ukraine in the United States, fueled by accusations made by the then–prosecutor general of Ukraine, Yuriy Lutsenko, that some Ukrainian citizens may have sought to influence” the 2016 presidential election in the US, “including by passing information that was detrimental to” Trump, which they hoped would reach Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
REMARKS: Yeah that's right Volker worked for McCain, an archenemy of Trump, the fix on messing up Trump has been in for quite a long time.
[Edited on 10/4/2019 by gina]
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/reading-volker-taylor-and-sondlands-ukraine-texts.html
"The crowning dramatic moment of the released texts, however, comes hours later, after midnight on September 9, in an exchange between Taylor and Sondland:
[9/9/19, 12:31:06 AM] Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians) we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.
[9/9/19, 12:34:44 AM] Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this interview, Gordon.
[9/9/19, 12:37:16 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, I never said I was “right”. I said we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward. Lets hope it works.
[9/9/19, 12:47:11 AM] Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign"
"In other words: “Actually, we’re not doing, and have never done, crimes, and let’s not text about these crimes, please, and why are you doing this to me, take it to Pompeo.”
[ https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-21/i-was-cia-director-we-lied-we-cheated-we-stole ]
In a rare moment of honesty, Mike Pompeo admitted to an audience that the CIA trains employees to “lie, cheat and steal.” While he seemed to find the whole thing funny, not everyone is amused, as RT found out. In a rare moment of honesty, Mike Pompeo admitted to an audience that the CIA trains employees to “lie, cheat and steal.”
https://www.rt.com/news/457452-pompeo-cia-moment-honest-interviews/
REMARKS: Whose idea was it to try to 'convince' the Ukranians that the withholding of security assistance was related to the campaign? A bunch of twisted underlings whose loyalties were not with Trump?
Taylor later described fearing a “nightmare scenario” in which the Ukrainians give what Trump wants but do not get the security assistance in return. “As I said on the phone,” he told Sondland on Sept. 9, “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.”
That’s when Sondland told him he believed he was wrong.
“The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind,” Sondland wrote. “The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign.”
REMARKS: Did you get that Ms. Pelosi, Sondland says the President was CRYSTAL CLEAR OF NO QUID PRO QUOS OF ANY KINDS. So these minions claiming otherwise are just crooks, liars, and part of the swamp.
YET they continue to lie, and blame Trump.
Sen. Ron Johnson (R.-Wis.) told the Wall Street Journal that he learned of a possible quid pro quo between the Trump administration and Ukraine's government from EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland.
REMARKS: He learned of possible quid pro quo, HEARSAY, nothing but hearsay.
[Edited on 10/4/2019 by gina]
TRUMP TESTIFIES OCTOBER 8th.
Weeks ago the CIA lawyer tried to get the Justice Dept to launch a criminal probe based on whistleblowers accustations.
The whistleblowers complaint was based on conversations of people who were ALLEGEDLY in the room with the phone call OR people who they had talked to. Those who were telling him things should be named, they should be brought to testify and corroborate that they told whistleblower the things he is saying they did. Why hasn't that happened? Because the President is right, this is BULLSHIT.
I like what Eric Trump had to say and pointed out about the comparisons on how different things would be if Trump had been on the Board of Directors of a Ukranian company getting $50,000 a month.
But yes we know life's not fair. There is one set of rules for Trump and one for the Democrats.
IF they do impeach him and remove him from office, can he still run in the 2020 election? Nobody has answered that. Ross Perot said people can launch grassroots campaigns and get people on the ballots even without an official party endorsement, or we could all just write him in. What would the Electoral College do then?
If he's removed from office, which is highly unlikely, he'll possibly be charged with multiple felonies for the crimes he's already committed and could be arrested and prosecuted thereby making him, I assume, ineligible to run for the presidency.
Why do you think he's going to such extremes to win re-election? To avoid prison dear bot girl...
Bro rabbit,
I type in the mid 70's and my internet skills are extraordinary.
Additionally, for some things, I prepare the work ahead of time.
No bot bro.
Biden promised Ukraine 1 Billion dollars if they fired the prosecutor investigating his son's company. The Prosecutor got fired. Biden says so.
It goes back to 2014.
Swamp watch from 2018
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[Edited on 10/5/2019 by gina]
Bro rabbit,
I type in the mid 70's and my internet skills are extraordinary.
Additionally, for some things, I prepare the work ahead of time.
No bot bro.
You sound strikingly like a highly trained bot from some, to use a Trump phrase, "shit hole" country in central Europe.....Your description of yourself is the same MO of most bots, dear comrade...
Bro rabbit,
I type in the mid 70's and my internet skills are extraordinary.
Additionally, for some things, I prepare the work ahead of time.
No bot bro.
You sound strikingly like a highly trained bot from some, to use a Trump phrase, "shit hole" country in central Europe.....Your description of yourself is the same MO of most bots, dear comrade...
Nah, she's just our resident flake/troll.
Been like this for years.
Most of what she's been posting is either already debunked or just plain nuts.
I haven't seen her declare we will invade Iran soon but that chestnut has been her go to prediction since bush the dullard was in office.
She still doesn't see the "transcript says right on page one it is NOT an actual word for word of the phone call, it's a summary provided by (and composed by) the White House.
We all know how trustworthy they are.
Garbage in, gina spews garbage out.
Bro rabbit,
I type in the mid 70's and my internet skills are extraordinary.
Additionally, for some things, I prepare the work ahead of time.
No bot bro.
You sound strikingly like a highly trained bot from some, to use a Trump phrase, "shit hole" country in central Europe.....Your description of yourself is the same MO of most bots, dear comrade...
Nah, she's just our resident flake/troll.
Been like this for years.
Most of what she's been posting is either already debunked or just plain nuts.
I haven't seen her declare we will invade Iran soon but that chestnut has been her go to prediction since bush the dullard was in office.
I always thought the same, Ron, but I think she/he/it is cashing in on the years long nuttiness by spreading constant disinformation for some foreign adversary.
Seems to me a good career move for she/he/it, don't you think?
I've contemplated such a move myself....But as a spreader of accurate information mind you... 😛 
Former CIA Analyst, Fred Fleitz gives his take on the whistleblower complaint.
“As a former CIA analyst and former NSC official who edited transcripts of POTUS phone calls with foreign leaders, here are my thoughts on the whistleblower complaint which was just released,” begins Fleitz. “This is not an intelligence matter. It is a policy matter and a complaint about differences over policy. Presidential phone calls are not an intelligence concern. The fact that IC officers transcribe these calls does not give the IC IG jurisdiction over these calls. It appears that rules restricting access and knowledge of these sensitive calls was breached. This official was not on this call, not on the approved dissem list and should not have been briefed on the call.”
Fleitz goes on to say that the “whistleblower” clearly had help in authoring the report and wondered if he spoke to House Intelligence Committee members beforehand.
“The way this complaint was written suggested the author had a lot of help. I know from my work on the House Intel Commitee staff that many whistleblowers go directly to the intel oversight committees. Did this whistleblower first meet with House Intel committee members?” ponders Fleitz. “It is therefore important that Congress find out where this complaint came from. What did House and Senate intel committee dem members and staff know about it and when? Did they help orchestrate this complaint?”
“My view is that this whistleblower complaint is too convenient and too perfect to come from a typical whistleblower,” he continues. “Were other IC officers involved? Where outside groups opposed to the president involved?”
“Worst of all, this IC officer — and probably others — have blatantly crossed the line into policy. This violates a core responsibility of IC officers is to inform, but not make policy.
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf
https://twitter.com/fredfleitz
FORMER NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE DIRECTOR JAMES CLAPPER weighs in
Former National Intelligence Director James Clapper weighed in Friday on the “whistleblower” complaint alleging President Donald Trump sought a quid pro quo with Ukraine’s president over probing former Vice President Joe Biden.
“I’ve seen many whistleblower complaints during my time as DNI, and this one was the best written, best researched,” Clapper outlined. “It was footnoted. It didn’t get ahead of its ski tips. It was very compelling and very convincing, I think. It was written in the style of a seasoned intelligence analyst. And it approaches the quality of a National Intelligence estimate which is kind of the apex report that the intelligence community issues.”
Even one of Trump's lawyers Jay Sekulow said the complaint was written by a LAWYER.
"Look at the phraseology, the endnotes, and the footnotes. This wasn’t drafted by this individual. This was written by a law firm," Sekulow told "Fox & Friends" on Friday.
REMARKS: You know us around here, we don't stop there.
SEAN HANNITY
https://twitter.com/seanhannity
https://thegreggjarrett.com/president-trump-gregg-jarretts-witch-hunt-is-a-must-read/
https://thegreggjarrett.com/biden-spokesperson-obama-white-house-approved-hunter-bidens-position/
Kate Bedingfield, Deputy Campaign Director and Communications Director of the Biden 2020 Campaign, revealed that Hunter Biden’s position on the board of Burisma was approved by the White House in 2014.
Comment: Biden says he never talked to his son about Busima.
Still, in at least one interview, Hunter Biden said that he did talk to his father about his business dealings in the Ukraine and that he said to Hunter “I hope you know what you are doing.”
Congressman Schiff
10-3-19
https://thegreggjarrett.com/schifty-schiffs-shifting-story/
After it was revealed that Congressman Schiff, and his office, were in contact with the “whistleblower” before he had filled out his report of presidential “misconduct” the media immediately ran to his defense.
Still, the most troubling excuse for Shifty Schiff’s lie to the American people is that he thought he was talking to a different whistleblower. Mr. Stein says that Congressman Schiff told him, “there wasn’t 100 percent certainty that the whistleblower who approached his staff was the same one who is behind the actual complaint. There’s a suspicion, it was, but it wasn’t 100 percent certainty.”
Congressman Schiff talked to the “whistleblower” before the complaint was issued. He fabricated the call transcript and later said it was a parody. It has been publicly reported that he privately met with the son of a deceased Deutsche bank executive who had documents on the President’s finances who he later subpoenaed to obtain the documents. Finally, he is recorded on tape trying to acquire Russian dirt on President Trump which he believed to include naked pictures of the President.
Congressman Schiff talked to the “whistleblower” before the complaint was issued. He fabricated the call transcript and later said it was a parody. It has been publicly reported that he privately met with the son of a deceased Deutsche bank executive who had documents on the President’s finances who he later subpoenaed to obtain the documents. Finally, he is recorded on tape trying to acquire Russian dirt on President Trump which he believed to include naked pictures of the President.
It seems as if Congressman Schiff has fabricated so many stories that he cannot remember his part of the newest script. The American people will have to keep a close eye on what shady actions Schifty Schiff does next.
A spokesperson for Congressman Adam Schiff confirmed Wednesday that the whistleblower alleging misconduct by President Trump had contacted the legislator before officially filing his complaint.
REMARKS: Congressman Schiff was recorded asking the Russians to find dirt on Trump including what he believed to be naked pictures. So it is an impeachable offense for Trump (being accused) of trying to get dirt on Biden's son, but it is fine for Schiff to ask the Russians for dirt on Trump including naked pictures. What would he do if he found some, or they made some up, ask the President to drop his drawers in front of Congress to prove it wasn't him?
This whole thing is one set up I think retaliatory in nature from the FBI. It may be low tide, but there still is a swamp.
[Edited on 10/13/2019 by gina]
Time to up your meds, Gina....Whatever dosage you've been taking isn't working sister....
Nothing My Pillow cant fix.
Time to up your meds, Gina....Whatever dosage you've been taking isn't working sister....
The impeachment debacle is a set up, very clearly. The Guardian in London has live coverage of what's going on today.
15 minutes ago Pelosi and Schiff have press conference, there will be no impeachment vote.
[Edited on 10/15/2019 by gina]
Congressman Schiff was recorded asking the Russians to find dirt on Trump. . .
Bullsh*t spin. Not anywhere near the same thing. Schiff was contacted by Russian comedians and pranked - he responded appropriately. On the recording he tells the caller he will contact the FBI. That was a set-up - a pretty dumb one too, not even news.
Were those Russian comedians your pals? You sound like a Russian comedian yourself.
15 minutes ago Pelosi and Schiff have press conference, there will be no impeachment vote.
[Edited on 10/15/2019 by gina]
The topic is an impeachment INQUIRY. We're not at impeachment yet.
A vote isn't NEEDED for an impeachment INQUIRY. They're constitutionally permitted to proceed. The man in the WH who is completely unaware of what's in the constitution is the one saying it's an illegitimate inquiry w/o a vote & demanding one. They didn't fall for his "fake constitution" idea.
Rudy is desperately seeking a criminal lawyer but he doesn't have any $, being indebted $1mm to his divorce lawyer.
15 minutes ago Pelosi and Schiff have press conference, there will be no impeachment vote.
[Edited on 10/15/2019 by gina]The topic is an impeachment INQUIRY. We're not at impeachment yet.
A vote isn't NEEDED for an impeachment INQUIRY. They're constitutionally permitted to proceed. The man in the WH who is completely unaware of what's in the constitution is the one saying it's an illegitimate inquiry w/o a vote & demanding one. They didn't fall for his "fake constitution" idea.
Rudy is desperately seeking a criminal lawyer but he doesn't have any $, being indebted $1mm to his divorce lawyer.
The tyrant in the WH considers anyone questioning anything he does regardless of facts as illegitimate, enemy of the people, or as deep state. This is where we are as a country in 2019.
The tyrant in the WH considers anyone questioning anything he does regardless of facts as illegitimate, enemy of the people, or as deep state. This is where we are as a country in 2019.
Sadly, we've been there since 2016. What I find deplorable is either the blind loyalty or ignorance of those who just parrot back any nonsense he spews in his defense because THEY don't know what the constitution says. And I don't mean his MAGA base or those trolling for a fight on forums. When even Fox turns its back, surely the light should be going on for others.
. . . surely the light should be going on for others.
Makes no difference if the light goes on if they are dim bulbs. The lights are on but nobody's home.
. . . surely the light should be going on for others.
Makes no difference if the light goes on if they are dim bulbs. The lights are on but nobody's home.
Apparently there's no electricity running to those bulbs at all.
[Edited on 10/17/2019 by cyclone88]
How does Donald Trump screw in a light bulb?
He holds the bulb to the socket and the world revolves around him.
There is reason to believe the identity of the whistleblower is now known. If it is him, he was a CIA analyst left over from the Obama administration. He previously worked with Biden helping to initiate the Russia collusion investigation during the 2016 campaign. He left his NSC position in the West Wing in 2017, he was assigned there temporarily. He also worked with DNC operative whose job was to dig up dirt on the Trump campaign during 2016. She was a Ukranian operative who reportedly led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian govt. She attended a White House meeting in Nov.2015 with Whistleblower and lobbied Obama admin. For aid to the Ukraine. Other CIA colleagues have compiled a forty page dossier on the Whistleblower. He worked in the summer of 2015 under Susan Rice, Obama's National Security Adviser. Biden invited him to a State luncheon Oct.2016, among others, Comey Head of FBI was there as well as the National Intelligence Director. Whistleblower worked for Biden 2015 and 2016 and Obama regarded him as his point person on Ukraine. He speaks Russian. Ukranian and Arabic. Earlier this year, Adam Schiff recruited two of his closest allies at the NSC in August the same month the complaint was filed. His name came up during closed door testimony of former NSC official, Fiona Hill Oct.14. She worked with him in the West Wing.
Too many coincidences Mr. Whistleblower. We know your name, we know your loyalties. If they paid you to take down our President, you will not win. I ought to reveal you but I have my own problems with at least one faction of the alphabet agencies.
