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heineken515
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Now, proceed to shoot this down, say it was all part of Obama's plan, nothing to do with Trump, blah, blah...

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/04/04/immigration-arrests-plunge-to-17-year-low-along-us-mexico-border/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/9/illegal-immigration-southwest-border-down-70-pct/

Edit on title, my mistake, making it more clear, especially for our Northern friends.

[Edited on 5/12/2017 by heineken515]


 
Posted : May 11, 2017 6:51 am
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This proves that Trump is the best President ever, above criticism or reproach.

Liberals are idiots.


 
Posted : May 11, 2017 7:08 am
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So, are the illegal border crossings down because they know President Trump will actually enforce the law or because President Trump ordered the U.S. to stop the Obama TV and radio ads pushing free housing, free healthcare, free education, free food and driver's licenses south of the border?


 
Posted : May 11, 2017 7:22 am
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So, are the illegal border crossings down because they know President Trump will actually enforce the law or because President Trump ordered the U.S. to stop the Obama TV and radio ads pushing free housing, free healthcare, free education, free food and driver's licenses south of the border?

More alternative facts, pulled from your fat a$$. 😛

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So pops is too stupid to answer an easy question.

Enlighten us pops, why are border crossings plunging since President Trump was elected?
what is your theory?
What are your masters in the corrupt liberal media telling you?


 
Posted : May 11, 2017 8:57 am
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So, are the illegal border crossings down because they know President Trump will actually enforce the law or because President Trump ordered the U.S. to stop the Obama TV and radio ads pushing free housing, free healthcare, free education, free food and driver's licenses south of the border?

More alternative facts, pulled from your fat a$$. 😛

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So pops is too stupid to answer an easy question.

Enlighten us pops, why are border crossings plunging since President Trump was elected?
what is your theory?
What are your masters in the corrupt liberal media telling you?

They stopped coming because there are NO jobs for them, stupid. 😛

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Why would they want a job since Obama was giving them free housing, free healthcare, free education, free food and driver's licenses?

Nice try junior.
I didn't think you had a clue and you proved it.


 
Posted : May 11, 2017 10:18 am
Muleman1994
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So, are the illegal border crossings down because they know President Trump will actually enforce the law or because President Trump ordered the U.S. to stop the Obama TV and radio ads pushing free housing, free healthcare, free education, free food and driver's licenses south of the border?

More alternative facts, pulled from your fat a$$. 😛

_______________________________________________________________________________

So pops is too stupid to answer an easy question.

Enlighten us pops, why are border crossings plunging since President Trump was elected?
what is your theory?
What are your masters in the corrupt liberal media telling you?

They stopped coming because there are NO jobs for them, stupid. 😛

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Why would they want a job since Obama was giving them free housing, free healthcare, free education, free food and driver's licenses?

Nice try junior.
I didn't think you had a clue and you proved it.

You are still dumber than a box of rocks. Cool

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Thank you for admitting you have no idea why illegal border crossings have plunged.


 
Posted : May 11, 2017 11:56 am
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Thank you for admitting you have no idea why illegal border crossings have plunged.

Hey Mule, why do you type a whole line of "__" every time you quote someone? You do know the quote function also does that automatically? Just curious.


PorkchopBob Studio

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 1:41 pm
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_______________________________________________________________________________

Thank you for admitting you have no idea why illegal border crossings have plunged.

Hey Mule, why do you type a whole line of "__" every time you quote someone? You do know the quote function also does that automatically? Just curious.

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Good to see you are paying attention to things that matter.

So why do you think illegal border crossings are plunging since President Trump was elected?


 
Posted : May 11, 2017 1:50 pm
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Hey Mule, why do you type a whole line of "__" every time you quote someone? You do know the quote function also does that automatically? Just curious.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____Good to see you are paying attention to things that matter.

Ha, ok, no need to get all stanky butt about it, I was just curious. Take yourself a little more seriously why dontcha.


PorkchopBob Studio

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 7:02 pm
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Plunging? Ummmmmm you may want to look to the northern border. Guess they are not counting those fleeing the States into Canada.

That is some selective accounting.


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 2:58 am
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Plunging? Ummmmmm you may want to look to the northern border. Guess they are not counting those fleeing the States into Canada.

That is some selective accounting.

The subject is the U.S. southern boarder.
If Canada wants to pay for their housing, healthcare, education and food just start running Obama style TV & radio ads in the U.S. promoting those freebies.


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 7:32 am
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Plunging? Ummmmmm you may want to look to the northern border. Guess they are not counting those fleeing the States into Canada.

That is some selective accounting.

The subject is the U.S. southern boarder.
If Canada wants to pay for their housing, healthcare, education and food just start running Obama style TV & radio ads in the U.S. promoting those freebies.

Those "ads" never existed. That is a lie you fell for. I previously asked you to prove these ads existed and you've ignored that. Until you prove evidence of these ads, you might as well stop embarrassing yourself by repeatedly bring it up.


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 10:25 am
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Good news no matter the reason....right? Unless you want or support more illegal aliens coming to the US. Can't believe anyone would want more illegal immigration right? Emphasis added on the illegal part which many opposing the Trump administration's policy often fail to include in their statements.

Because there are no jobs? I doubt that is the reason. If this was 2009 something post-great recession that would be a plausible explanation. But in the current conditions? I don't think so.

It can't be the sole reason, however the tough approach on illegal immigrants from the administration has to have had an effect - A less welcoming and less lenient policy position.

Plus there are things that go under or unreported. The continued advertising campaign (before Trump) in Central America warning of both the dangers and consequence to coming here illegally may be having more of an impact now with the stricter enforcement taking place.

There are still thousands a month coming illegally and there have been reports that they only catch about half of them ones coming in. If it's 15,780 that are apprehended and roughly the same number that are not that is still too high.


https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 10:47 am
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Outside of the typical Mule/Pops back and forth, no one is actually shooting this good news down, so that's good at least.


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 10:54 am
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Look at Heineken trying to sell his boy Trump, lol. Nothing funnier than watching Trump supporters sifting through piles of garbage just to find one item to boast about. Stop the press everyone - we have the smoking gun proof that liberals are wrong and Trump is doing a great job.


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 3:01 pm
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Look at Heineken trying to sell his boy Trump, lol. Nothing funnier than watching Trump supporters sifting through piles of garbage just to find one item to boast about. Stop the press everyone - we have the smoking gun proof that liberals are wrong and Trump is doing a great job.

Obviously by the numbers President Trump is doing very well.
Not surprisingly not one left-winger is able or willing to say why illegal immigration has plunged.


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 4:08 pm
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Plunging? Ummmmmm you may want to look to the northern border. Guess they are not counting those fleeing the States into Canada.

That is some selective accounting.

Serious question. What is the Canada immigration policy if I were to illegally enter with plans to live and stay there?


 
Posted : May 12, 2017 5:10 pm
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Previously deported DUI suspect pleads not guilty in hit-and-run crash that left boy, 6, badly hurt

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-dui-driver-ice-deported-15-times-20170510-story.html

Hit-and-run suspect was deported 15 times in 15 years

In this handout provided by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Foreign nationals were arrested during a targeted enforcement operation conducted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) aimed at immigration fugitives, re-entrants and at-large criminal aliens February 9, 2017 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Bryan Cox/U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement via Getty Images)

A 38-year-old man is facing charges of driving under the influence, driving without a license and felony hit-and-run after he crashed into a family vehicle, sending a 6-year-old boy to the hospital, NBC San Diego reported. The driver responsible for the collision, Constantino Banda, had been deported at least 15 times in the last 15 years, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesperson told the news station.

The car accident occurred Saturday in San Diego’s San Ysidro district, as Lennox Lake and his parents were returning from Disneyland, according to NBC San Diego.

The family was a block away from home, CNN reported. San Ysidro is less than 10 miles from the US-Mexico border.

“We heard the tires screeching, but it wasn’t like the screeching of stopping. It was like the screeching of accelerating into the turn. I saw bright lights and the next thing, I know I woke up with airbags deployed,” said Lennox’s father, Benjamin Lake.

Lennox suffered a fractured skull and bleeding from his nose and ears, NBC San Diego reported. He was strapped into a car seat in the backseat of the car at the time of the crash.

The back seat on the driver’s side of the vehicle took the brunt of the impact, KGTV reported.
ICE Public Affairs Officer Lauren Mack told NBC Banda has been deported to Mexico at least 15 times since 2002. The most recent incident of repatriation was in January.

Banda, who is being held on $100,000 bail, is scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune.

Lennox was listed in serious condition at a local hospital Tuesday.

According to Cheryl Lake, Lennox’s grandmother, his family and doctors are “cautiously optimistic” that he will make a full recovery, The San Diego Union-Tribune reported.

Lennox’s family will be eligible for help from the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement, a new office created by President Donald Trump that helps victims of crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants.

http://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/hit-and-run-suspect-was-deported-times-years/GWIDJtcZtaImd32FYyyu8L/


 
Posted : May 14, 2017 6:13 pm
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Only a moron reforms an entire immigration policy because of isolated news stories. Keep proving your stupidity.


 
Posted : May 15, 2017 4:28 am
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Only a moron reforms an entire immigration policy because of isolated news stories. Keep proving your stupidity.

Assaults, rape and murder have been rampant from criminal illegal aliens who Obama repeatedly set free and sanctuary cites protect.

The corrupt liberal media has been censoring the many incidents because reporting that news would destroy their political agenda.

If you were informed you would know this but as usual you hide from the facts or simply are unable to understand.


 
Posted : May 15, 2017 6:22 am
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Post it. Prove it, otherwise you are a liar. I love this new way to behave under our new leadership - so much easier! Now I get it Trump supporters! #maga


 
Posted : May 15, 2017 9:19 am
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Post it. Prove it, otherwise you are a liar. I love this new way to behave under our new leadership - so much easier! Now I get it Trump supporters! #maga

We live in a post fact world. The election of Don the Con proves that facts no longer matter. You can make sh!t up, change your story over an over, and none of it matters, at least to the Trump supporters. Not sure if anybody else can get away with it though.


 
Posted : May 15, 2017 4:36 pm
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Post it. Prove it, otherwise you are a liar. I love this new way to behave under our new leadership - so much easier! Now I get it Trump supporters! #maga

I guess you can read through the stories on this site if you want:

http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/

‘DREAMER’ Who Killed Two Little GIrls Will Not Be Deported
May 16, 2017

Drunk Illegal Alien Ran Red Light, Crashed Into Deputy In La.
May 16, 2017

Previously Deported Felon Shot Limo Driver In Arizona
May 16, 2017

Previously Deported Habitual Drunk Driver Charged With Another DUI
May 16, 2017

Trio Of Illegal Aliens Robbed, Kidnapped Man In Texas
May 16, 2017

Illegal Alien With Decades Of Criminal History To Be Deported For The 9th Time
May 13, 2017

Man Suspected Of Murdering Two Doctors Is African ‘Refugee’ With Criminal Record
May 12, 2017

Previously Deported Felon Convicted Of DUI
May 12, 2017

African ‘Migrant’ Kills Two People In Alcohol-Fueled Crash
May 12, 2017

Illegal Alien Kidnapped, Raped Teenager In North Carolina
May 12, 2017

15-Time Deported Drunk Mexican Leaves 6-Year-Old Boy Fighting For His Life
May 10, 2017

Illegal Alien In North Carolina Has Been Arrested 20 Times
May 10, 2017

‘DREAMER’ Shot Two Police Officers In Sanctuary City Of Chicago
May 8, 2017

Illegal Alien Caught In The Act Of Raping A 15-Year-Old Girl
May 8, 2017

Previously Convicted Illegal Alien Brutally Raped Woman In Oregon
May 7, 2017

Illegal Alien Rapist, Murderer Captured After 19 Years On The Run
May 6, 2017

Illegal Alien Out On Bail Fails To Show Up To Court On Rape Charges
May 6, 2017

‘DREAMER’ Caught Driving Stolen Car, In Possession Of Stolen Police Rifle
May 6, 2017

Illegal Alien Raped 9-Year-Old Girl In Massachusetts
May 4, 2017

‘DREAMERS’ Gang-Raped Unconscious 17-Year-Old Girl
May 4, 2017

Foreign Criminals Are Filling Our Prison System
May 4, 2017

Illegal Alien Wanted In Grisly Double-Murder Found In North Carolina
May 3, 2017

MS-13 Controls Long Island Neighborhood
May 2, 2017

Illegal Alien Led Police On Chase That Ended In Crash
May 1, 2017

Illegal Alien Meth Dealer Caught With Cache Of Weapons
May 1, 2017

Illegal Aliens Charged With Raping 14 And 17-Year-Old Girl
April 30, 2017

Illegal Aliens Gang-Raped Mentally Disabled 14-Year-Old Girl
April 29, 2017

‘DREAMER’ Caught Delivering Drugs To Dealer In Jail To Be Deported
April 29, 2017

Previously Deported Illegal Alien Kidnapped, Repeatedly Raped Woman
April 28, 2017

Illegal Alien Freed By ICE Has Murdered A Woman In Louisiana
April 28, 2017

etc...


 
Posted : May 16, 2017 6:36 pm
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Post it. Prove it, otherwise you are a liar. I love this new way to behave under our new leadership - so much easier! Now I get it Trump supporters! #maga

We live in a post fact world. The election of Don the Con proves that facts no longer matter. You can make sh!t up, change your story over an over, and none of it matters, at least to the Trump supporters. Not sure if anybody else can get away with it though.

Isn't that cute.
- Take the standard slime the left practices and claim that is what the Republican is doing.
- Claim, with no prof, that President Trump is leaking classified information while Hillary Clinton has been proven to leaking classified information to anyone who wanted it.
- Claim that the criminal illegal aliens are not really assaulting, raping and murdering American Citizens when the proof is easily available.

Many creditable sources exist yet the left simply refuses to believe the facts.
That is cool.
Keep losing elections.


 
Posted : May 17, 2017 5:28 am
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Nebish, is that your attempt to prove that it's "rampant" among the millions of illegal aliens that are here? And from an unknown source? Swing and a miss!


 
Posted : May 17, 2017 5:39 am
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I opened myself to that rampant claim in responding to you, in response to the person who used the rampant claim.

It is not rampant, I would not have used that term. There is a problem, just as all crimes by legal and illegal persons alike is a problem. If the person who committed any given crime is here illegally, the argument can be made if they were in fact not here that crime wouldn't have been committed. When any law enforcement division encounters an illegal immigrant in our country, that person should be detained and handed over to ICE for deportation. Sanctuary cities are in violation of federal law and enable or even promote criminal behavior by the illegal immigrants shielded in their cities.

As for sources for those stories, which were just about 3 weeks worth of headlines, I'm not going to hand feed it to you. Each story on that web link I provided has a linked source most are local news reports.

There are a couple new ones since last night, but that first one I posted...it happened in Oregon, but the grandparents live here where I live with some friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend type connection. Their 2 grand daughters were killed by a hit and run illegal immigrant driving. Sometimes these stories aren't that abstract.

I'm sure you are ready to say "illegal immigrants commit less crime than legal citizens". Yeah, that line has been said and used before. I'll leave you with this piece, which I'm sure will do nothing to influence your outlook. For some reason you want to protect and insulate people in our country illegally from facing the rule of law, or might I speculate, even want more illegal immigration. You won't change my mind either, that outlook is dead wrong.

The truth about crime, illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities
By Ron Martinelli, opinion contributor - 04/19/17 07:00 PM EDT

There has been much rhetoric from the left and the open-borders, pro-illegal immigration lobby suggesting that illegal immigrants pose no threat to the safety and security of this nation and commit less crimes than their American Citizen and legal immigrant counterparts.

If one watches the network newscasts, the ideologues and open-borders surrogates consistently accuse Americans and law enforcement experts who suggest otherwise of being racist and anti-immigration xenophobes. If you pay attention to the rhetoric, you will find one blaring item missing — facts.

I am a former Spanish speaking career detective who investigated violent crimes within the Hispanic and other ethnic immigrant communities.

I am also a forensic criminologist who is a subject matter expert in violent crime who advocates for facts and evidence. Here are some verified crime facts and statistics with you so that you will know the truth about the precarious relationship between violent crime and illegal immigrants.

As Americans, we should only care about three things: (1) are the immigrants in the U.S. illegally; (2) have they committed violent crimes predominantly against U.S. citizens; and (3) had these criminals not been in our country illegally, these crimes, the victimization of our citizens and the costs of their crimes borne by American taxpayers could have been completely avoided.

Previous administrations have deliberately kept Americans in the dark about illegal immigrant crimes

Most states and our federal government have kept information and statistics about illegal immigration, crimes committed by illegals and the costs borne by you the U.S. payer out of public view. It is in fact difficult, but not impossible to locate accurate crime statistics involving illegal immigrants. The statistics are buried both to suit a political agenda and to avoid public outcry. Once you read this article, you will quickly understand why.

Demographics – The Pew Research Institute estimates that as of 2014, there are at least 11.2 million illegal immigrants residing in the U.S. This population comprises approximately 3.5 percent of our country’s population.

Of these, by far the largest ethnic population, 52 percent are Hispanics comprised of Mexicans, Central Americans and Cubans.

Six states: California, Texas, Illinois, Florida, New York and New Jersey account for 59 percent of all illegal immigrants residing in the U.S. The fact that 66 percent of all illegal immigrants have lived in our nation for over ten years underscores our long-standing inability to address the serious problem of our inability to control our nation’s borders.

The relationship between illegal immigrants and violent crime

Research conducted by the federal government oversight organization Judicial Watch in 2014 documents that 50 percent of all federal crimes were committed near our border with Mexico.

Of the 61,529 criminal cases filed by federal prosecutors; 40 percent or 24,746 were in court districts along the southern borders of California, Arizona and Texas.

The Western District of Texas had the nation’s most significant crime rate with over 6,300 cases filed; followed by the Southern District of Texas with slightly over 6,000 cases.

The Southern California District with nearly 4,900 cases; New Mexico with nearly 4,000 cases and Arizona with over 3,500 criminal cases ranked 3rd, 4th and 5th.

The U.S. Department of Justice documents that in 2014, 19 percent or over 12,000 criminal cases filed by prosecutors were for violent crimes; and over 22 percent or 13,300 cases were for drug related felonies.

That same year, the U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants were also involved in 17 percent of all drug trafficking sentences and one third of all federal prison sentences.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegal immigrants were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S.

According to the FBI, 67,642 murders were committed in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. The General Accounting Office documents that criminal immigrants committed 25,064 of these murders.

To extrapolate out these statistics, this means that a population of just over 3.5 percent residing in the U.S. unlawfully committed 22 percent to 37 percent of all murders in the nation. This is astounding.

Illegal immigrants clearly commit a level of violent and drug related crimes disproportionate to their population

Vetted crime statistics from USDOJ, the U.S. Sentencing Commission and the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) are both clear and demonstrative that illegal immigrants who comprise only 3.5 percent of our nation’s population, are convicted and sentenced for the crime of murder at a rate of three times that of their American citizen and legal immigrant counterparts.

In California alone, over 2,400 illegal immigrants out of a total prison population of 130,000 are imprisoned in the state’s prison system for the crime of homicide.

The misrepresentation of comparisons in who commits crimes between illegal immigrants, legal U.S. immigrants and American citizens

The pro-illegal immigrant lobby consistently misrepresents the criminal involvement of illegal immigrants as compared to immigrants who legally enter the U.S. and American citizens, saying that illegal immigrants commit less crimes than their counterparts. This assertion is false in most cases. Here are the vetted statistics:

In California, there are just over 92 illegal immigrants imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals as compared to 74 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants. In Arizona, the rate is nearly 69 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000, as compared to 54 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants.

In New York, over three times as many illegal immigrants or 169, are imprisoned for crimes per 100,000, as compared to only 48 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants. Only the states of Texas and Florida do illegal immigrants commit less crimes than their legal immigrant counterparts (Texas with 54.5 illegals imprisoned per 100,000, compared to 65 legal immigrants and Florida with 55 illegals imprisoned, compared to 68 legal immigrants).

Texas is an epicenter for illegal immigrant crimes

Recent crime analysis by both the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Texas law enforcement authorities indicate that between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 criminal immigrants were arrested and booked into Texas jails.

In researching the criminal careers of these defendants, it was revealed that they had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults; 69,000 drug offenses; 8,700 weapons violations; over 3,800 robberies and over 45,000 obstructing police charges. In determining the status of these offenders in the U.S., it was confirmed by DHS that over 173,000 or 66 percent of these immigrant criminal defendants were in our country illegally at the times of their arrests.

“Sanctuary State” California politicians fight against deporting criminal illegal immigrants

Currently, a fight is brewing between California Open Borders politicians and the state’s Democratic controlled Legislature and the Department of Justice regarding the protection of violent criminal illegal immigrants.

Hardly any Californian’s know that in 2014, Gov. Brown signed a bill that amended a state statute amending the maximum sentencing for misdemeanor crimes by one day from 365 to 364 days in jail. This was deliberately done to avoid current federal laws that provide for the deportation of illegal and legal immigrants in this country who have received sentences of 365 days or more.

With the newly enacted jail and prison diversion programs of Propositions 109 and 47, Gov. Brown and company are effectively preventing the federal government from removing violent and recidivist illegal immigrants from our midst through the deportation process.

The extreme costs of keeping illegal immigrant criminals in this country

According to research and statistics by the U.S. Departments of Justice and Homeland Security, U.S. taxpayers are footing an annual bill of nearly $19 million a day to house and care for an estimated 300,000 to 450,000 convicted criminal immigrants who are eligible for deportation and are currently residing in local jails and state and federal prisons across the country.

These figures include not only those immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally, but all immigrants here who commit and have been convicted of crimes. Other accounting estimates indicate that the total cost for all corrections, medical and support services for adults and juvenile immigrant criminals nationally to be over $1.8 billion dollars.

So the next time you hear some Open Borders politician or pro illegal immigrant surrogates advocate on their behalf, ask yourself why we as American citizens need to bear the increasing costs of violence, victimization and burdensome taxes in subsidizing illegal immigrant criminals who shouldn’t be in our country in the first place.

Ron Martinelli is a nationally renowned forensic criminologist and law enforcement expert. Martinelli is a retired San Jose (CA) police detective who provides forensic investigation and expert services to numerous states, large municipalities and national private law firms specializing in civil rights. He is fluent in Spanish and divides his time between California, Texas and Mexico.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/crime/329589-the-truth-about-crime-illegal-immigrants-and-sanctuary-cities


 
Posted : May 17, 2017 9:15 am
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There has been much rhetoric from the left and the open-borders, pro-illegal immigration

I stopped right there. Was the rest of the article good?


 
Posted : May 17, 2017 9:46 am
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I'm sure you are ready to say "illegal immigrants commit less crime than legal citizens". Yeah, that line has been said and used before. I'll leave you with this piece, which I'm sure will do nothing to influence your outlook. For some reason you want to protect and insulate people in our country illegally from facing the rule of law, or might I speculate, even want more illegal immigration. You won't change my mind either, that outlook is dead wrong.

Well you know what they say about people who assume. As Bhawk pointed out, the anti-liberal article you just posted reveals your bias against them, which nullifies the legitimacy of the post right away. I'm merely pointing out that citizenship status is completely irrelevant to the root of those problems, and is just an easy and comfortable scapegoat. Using those incidents as justification to tighten laws for all illegal aliens, is irresponsible and hostile towards those trying to follow the process legally. There are millions of immigrants who are here "illegally" because their work visa expired and doesn't get renewed. Instead of quitting their job and leaving their family starved and leave the USA, they stay and hope for the best. Those types should be given a path to citizenship. But the hostile nature of those headlines puts all the good ones at risk. Please don't tell me there's no intent to tarnish them with the type of writing style they chose.


 
Posted : May 17, 2017 10:48 am
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I have to watch this basketball game with my wife. I'll check back in later and respond to both of you if that matters or not I don't know.


 
Posted : May 17, 2017 4:08 pm
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Nebish, is that your attempt to prove that it's "rampant" among the millions of illegal aliens that are here? And from an unknown source? Swing and a miss!

That is your attempt to diminish the fact of illegal alien crime and the Obama administrations failure to control immigration according to the law.
When the left-wing loons such as yourself start assigning labels it is nothing more than your dishonesty on the matter.

Fact:
Criminal illegal aliens have been assaulting, raping and murdering American Citizens and they should not be in our country.


 
Posted : May 17, 2017 5:01 pm
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