Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the "jealous" line was referring to being jealous because we didn't get to boff a porn star. Which is actually not an enviable thing if you are concerned about STDs and such.

That would be a question for the poster.

I've lost interest.

Too bad, as the issues you raised are very worth discussing , which I said in my initial reply. I never said anything like you "posted in tbe wrong forum". For a prosecutor, someone who has to listen to people's bs all day, you seem a bit volatile and unwilling to parry.

btw I totally agree that the good ol boy sex stuff is beyond gross and deserves to be classified on the same level as hate crime.

That makes it all the more important that we not go off on every little remark, but weigh everything in context, before we start dropping the hammer.

3 points

1. If she ended up with Trump him in a physical way, that was something private between them. Why does it need to come out now? The disclosure only hurts his wife.

2. She has denied it recently and the account in the media stories sounds like something the CIA would make up.

3. The Wall Street Journal had a very detailed article last week with details about the alleged money transfer. What I will say is this. IF he gave her money, it could have been for anything, such as perhaps she needed money for something in her personal life, to help a sick relative, or re-pay a loan or something. People should not assume it was for hush money IF indeed this happened.

4. There was an article in the NY Post with pictures of her with other celebrities, she has been somewhat of a socialite hob knobbing with other celebrity people; therefore she has been successful in her own right, she probably would not have even needed money from Trump.

Bottom line, IF it happened, it was not an ongoing affair, it would have been a brief encounter or two. I don't think people should make a big deal about it; but remember I told you the Democrats intended to bring out 8 women in January who would reportedly claim they had sex with Trump just to raise some sort of ethics probe on him. This could be the pre-lude to that.

[Edited on 1/18/2018 by gina]

You're just jealous it wasn't you.

Jealous of what? That she might have had sex with Trump? I like his personality, but I am not physically attracted to him. I think he is a great American, a successful businessman, and I know I saw him recite poetry in a you tube video, which shows a side of him most people are unaware of. He is very smart, passionate, and romantic. He's been harassed and persecuted since he started running for President, and the dissidents continue to try to ruin him. His perseverance is admirable and will become legendary as he will not let any of this cheap circus sideshow distract him from his mission, to Make America Great Again.

Lol oh I stand corrected, the jealous thing was about gina. Well, she isn't attracted to trump so at least that's settled.

Too bad, as the issues you raised are very worth discussing , which I said in my initial reply.

I'll bite and then I'm done. You said my comment was "misplaced" and made a reference to Roy Moore - I was making a good point in the wrong place/forum/thread/younameit.

I am quite level headed. What I saw in reading the thread was an anomaly. "Gina" was getting a lot of comments and criticism on her post. ALL of the responses were on the substance of her comment - some were even jocular - save one. I pointed that out. It was the stuff of the #metoo that comes across my desk AND of which men should be aware.

I appreciated your early thoughts. However, I don't think this thread or even this forum is the place where a legit discussion of this topic can take place.

Well . . . I'm not entirely convinced gina is .. . . I suppose that doesn't have any bearing on the debate. ok, nuf said, this is getting strange and it is my fault.

Never mind cyclone, for the record I think sexist d*ckheads deserve a vibram waffle print on the face. Can't stand that noise, never could. Your intent is honorable for sure.

There are people in the government and outside of it also who want to destroy Trump. This is a tabloid story published today of an alleged interview that Ms. Daniels (her stage name) supposedly did. I think it is one big made up lie but I also think it is important to know this BIG LIE certain entities seem to be pushing about Trump.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-full-interview-151788

And they even try to drag Ben Rothlisberger into it that he was accompanying her back to her room, and Trump's Security Man was helping her slip away with him. So what is the goal here? Get his wife to want to divorce him, create mistrust between him and his former Security Man? They want to separate him from the people who know and have been loyal to him. This is like the ultimate Democrat created psy-op.

So the porn star is like the "Manchurian Candy-Date" ! It's all a c*ntspiracy.

There are people in the government and outside of it also who want to destroy Trump.

He needs nobody to assist there. He is a one man wrecking crew. The same guy you hold up as something special has the lowest prez rating in history in year 1. He is taking the GOP down one block at a time, dividing the USA more so than all those who accused Obama of this, and has pissed off countries formerly known as our allies.

Gina, come November 2018 you will see first hand the damage he has done to the GOP. If the GOP loses the House & Senate, Trump's policies will flip from being a Repub to a Dem. All he cares about is wins versus losses & in his media perception. The policies to get there are insignificant to him.

Do you really believe he is a true conservative? No, he is an opportunist. Anything that makes him look good makes him happy.

So the porn star is like the "Manchurian Candy-Date" ! It's all a c*ntspiracy.

I don't know what her schtick is. I do think it is possible he met her at any of the social events he attended, beyond that I do not believe the story from what has been attributable to her as interviews and disclosures.

As far as conspiracy, I do think there is one by the group that has sought to take him out of power and will use any trick in the book and even some that aren't if someone comes up with a plan they think will cause him trouble, investigations etc. I don't know that the regular conspiracy against him (which began even before he took office) is related to this event. It could be two separate things.

It could even be that they want to discredit and destroy her because she refused to go against him, so they figure they will exploit and expose the two of them. All that we know is that she was an adult film star, WAS past tense. She said she has a husband and a new life now. So, somebody is stirring the pot of a flame that stopped heating things up a long time ago. The allegation is an affair in 2006, this is 2018, twelve years later. How likely is it that something like that just happens to come out now? Seems more likely there is a conspiracy.